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15 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

Have you seen what is currently taking up space in the Oval Office?

Yes, and no need to go down that road ever, and certainly not ever again.

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12 hours ago, Fnord said:

I did, but I kinda like it here. It's much more tolerable when you use the ignore feature. I don't like ignoring posters, but some of the MAGA gang here just has nothing to offer whatsoever.  Looking at peefoam and 90s especially. Jon is also in that group, but he's so far gone that I just can't quit him. I keep reading his stuff, hoping for a glimpse of rationality, and then chuckling as he gets even more extreme. 

Anyone that uses the ignore feature is a puss

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4 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

Anyone that uses the ignore feature is a puss

Also get a kick out of him saying other posters don't offer much. Jesus, fnord is the poster boy for "not offering much".  :lol: 

How much more tone def can he get?

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1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Also get a kick out of him saying other posters don't offer much. Jesus, fnord is the poster boy for "not offering much".  :lol: 

How much more tone def can he get?

His pfp sucks too

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7 hours ago, Patented Phil said:

They’re using the Justice system as a political weapon.  I don’t expect you to see that.

1) You will never see the evidence of it in the Libtard msm

2) You will never seek out the truth because you’re not intellectually curious

3) Your side is winning, and winning big

4) You really do hate, scorn, and look down upon the average Republican

Liberals as a group are very emotional.  Maybe it’s because of all the women, maybe it’s because of all the twinkle-toes.  They have been brainwashed to believe that white people really are evil and racist. When a white cop kills a black person, every single Liberal is 100% convinced that it was due to evil white racism.  They don’t even look for proof of it.  It’s de facto.  And if you challenge that notion they will destroy your life.

So we have emotional imbalance combined with incessant demonization.  That ain’t good.  It has made Liberals constitutionally incapable of dispensing Justice fairly.  Screw the Constitution.  Screw the laws.  I’m a Social Justice Warrior and I strive toward higher goals.

I’m not afraid to admit the truth.  Liberals have done a masterful job the last 30 years gaining power. They’ve developed a vice-grip on the media, entertainment, and educational industries.  And thanks to Trump, we’ve also seen Liberals having a huge advantage in the Federal civil service, Intelligence community, and Justice system.  Now we have a problem.  Because all of this combined leads to one inevitable place - tyranny.  And although no one wants to admit it, we’ve arrived at that place.  

Our entire Justice system - Federal and State - has been compromised.  It has become weaponized and politicized, and it’s the Liberals who are swinging the hammer.  Once again, no one wants to deal with this, but Conservatives are getting their clocks cleaned.  It’s stuff you would see in a Banana Republic.  The leader of political party, representing one-half of Americans, is being jailed for AT BEST is a minor campaign contribution reporting violation.  Everyone knows that Trump has been unfairly targeted for the last 8 years.

I think what has tipped the scales into the danger zone is something that most Liberals are completely unaware of.  It’s the despicable, unfair  abuse of power against the 1/6 wahoos.  The Tucker videos were a bombshell - a degree of tyranny and corruption I never thought I’d see in this country.  Libtards - don’t even comment on this because I know you have never taken even 5 minutes to view the damning evidence.  So just STFU on this.

Bottom line - there is indisputable evidence that Chewbaka guy was nonviolent and did not destroy any property.  He trespassed and disrupted a very important political event, but throughout his time in the Capitol he walked calmly with 2 cops opening doors for him.  I don’t like that he disrespected the Senate chamber by sitting in the Leader’s Chair.  But I do like that he led a prayer in the Senate Chamber.  He should be punished proportionately for the laws he broke. Maybe a fine and a couple months in the slammer.

Unfortunately he and many others were treated so harshly that it screamed of political bias.  He was denied bail and subjected to months of solitary confinement.  His sentence was extreme - 4 years in prison followed by 3 more years of at-home probation.  Worst of all, and one of the most egregious examples of civil rights abuse by the Federal Government, he and many other defendants were never given the exculpatory videos that the DOJ is constitutionally required to provide.  This is stuff you’d see in a Third World Dictatorship, the Soviet Union, or Mao’s China.

This happened, it’s indisputable, Conservatives know it, and Liberals are completely lying about it.  That Liberal denial used to anger me, but now I see it as probably a good thing from a big picture standpoint.  The dominance and tyranny from the Left can’t be reformed politically.  If Trump did any good it was shining a light on how bad the situation had become.  It’s the revealing of Truth, which I’m always supportive of.  And maybe it expedites how this will ultimately be resolved.  Buy gold fellas,  

You didn’t address my point with your post.

That Trump’s “asymmetrical leadership” is what we need to avoid tyranny when he is the closest thing we have to a tyrant.

I can see why you would just blow right past this. That anyone would support this guy and then lecture about the decay of our system is just absurd.

Jan 6th nutjobs are getting a taste of our judicial system. I’m glad to see concern suddenly in this regard. Welcome! If someone is treated unfairly make your case and go through the process. Welcome to the American way, the wheels of justice move slowly unless you are rich / powerful. Buffalo Shaman guy is nether and was sadly misled by Trump and all because Trump’s ego is so crazy he can’t accept he is a loser. Think about that, all of this for one man’s ego. It is really crazy.

As to the buffalo head guy all the videos were accessible to his attorney here is the prosecutor statement on that issue: 

“They say that with the exception of ten seconds of CCTV camera footage aired by Carlson last week that "implicated an evacuation route. .. all of the footage played on television was disclosed to" to Pezzola and Chansley's attorneys by as early as September 2021. And the other 10 seconds were produced as part of a 'global discovery' system accessibly by all Jan. 6 defense attorneys in January of this year.” 

If that is inaccurate I encourage Buffalo Shaman to sue and use the full extent of the system. 

 

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7 hours ago, Patented Phil said:

Get it through your thick skull.  1/6 was NOT an insurrection.  It was a political protest that turned into a riot - kind of like the “The Summer of Love” but with significantly lower property damage.  The only person killed during the riot was an unarmed female protester. The protesters were unarmed and were not a threat to the Government.  It’s no surprise that you  believe that propaganda.  It’s kind of at the core of your being.  The French call it “raison d’etre”.   Look it up Skippy.

Jan 6th was the culmination of one little man’s fit because he was a loser. Unfortunately this little man happened to be Prez and the position has virtually unchecked power. It took such a pathetic person in that job to really drive that home and we got to watch it all play out in the final scene in DC that day. 

The system withheld and despite all the steps this guy took, often on recorded calls (what an idiot this dude is), pleading with his VP, various other traitors in Congress he could not bust the system. 

As crazy as all that was if he had some nutjob in place in Georgia, or a freak like MTG as his VEEP, it might be a different story. 

If that happened all the preppers and civil war folks might have really gotten their wish. 

It is sad that he was able to delude so many people into believing his nonsense. That he is the leading nom for one of the two realistic choices we have as our Prez is mind boggling.

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3 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Also get a kick out of him saying other posters don't offer much. Jesus, fnord is the poster boy for "not offering much".  :lol: 

How much more tone def can he get?

What do you wanna talk about? I'm pretty multi-dimensional and try to avoid pigeonholing huge groups of people with simple labels. I'm not here to stir sh1t up, but I won't walk away from a moron making stupid accusations, either.

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1 minute ago, Fnord said:

What do you wanna talk about? I'm pretty multi-dimensional and try to avoid pigeonholing huge groups of people with simple labels. I'm not here to stir sh1t up, but I won't walk away from a moron making stupid accusations, either.

Agreed.  You rarely walk away from any of your posts.

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So it’s come out now that NYC DA was hiding HUNDREDS of pages of exculpatory evidence. He’s on the verge of being charged with prosecutorial misconduct :lol: 

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3 minutes ago, WhiskeyCash said:

So it’s come out now that NYC DA was hiding HUNDREDS of pages of exculpatory evidence. He’s on the verge of being charged with prosecutorial misconduct :lol: 

WTF?  Of course he was.  :lol:

The Dems telegraphed their playbook way back in 2015 when Trump announced he was running for Prez.  Racheal Maddow and the entire MSM literally made stuff up, all in an effort to "GET HIM".  Every week we were presented with yet another fabricated or exaggerated "WE GOT 'EEEEEEM!" story, only for them NOT to get him.  Rinse and repeat the next week.

OF COURSE the DA would hide stuff - it's all part of the strategy to get Trump.  Doesn't matter how they get him legal or illegal, as long as they get him.

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12 minutes ago, WhiskeyCash said:

So it’s come out now that NYC DA was hiding HUNDREDS of pages of exculpatory evidence. He’s on the verge of being charged with prosecutorial misconduct :lol: 

It’s come out on Gateway Pundit? But of course it has. 

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

It’s come out on Gateway Pundit? But of course it has. 

That why he didn’t charge him today and is now backing down? Lmfao you retarded liberals will say anything :lol:

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Just now, WhiskeyCash said:

That why he didn’t charge him today and is now backing down? Lmfao you retarded liberals will say anything :lol:

Is your prediction now that he won’t be charged? 

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Besides what kind of exculpatory evidence can there be, exactly? Are you suggesting that Trump didn’t pay off the porn star? 

Even Stormy Daniels back in 2018 went on record saying she didn’t t have an affair with him :lol: You focking moron 

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/01/31/amid-publicity-tour-porn-star-stormy-daniels-denies-having-an-affair-with-trump.html

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Is your prediction now that he won’t be charged? 

Lmfao well he didn’t charge him today like he promised. Probably because he got caught lying and withholding evidence 😂

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35 minutes ago, WhiskeyCash said:

That why he didn’t charge him today and is now backing down? Lmfao you retarded liberals will say anything :lol:

The only person that said he would be charged yesterday was Donald 😂

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4 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

So no affair, no charges, Stormy still owes Trump $300k and the DA was withholding evidence and might be charged. This is going swimmingly well for democrats. 

Democrats aren’t a part of this. If Trump remains a viable Presidential candidate that’s bad for Republicans. 
Most reporting still thinks an indictment is likely but we’ll see. I’ve never thought this was a very big deal. The big deal is in Georgia. To me that seems like, of all the legal trouble Trump faces, the most serious of the lot. 

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It appears this DA wants his 15 minutes of fame, and if he gets his perp walk of Trump, he can write his ticket to CNN or any other centrist media company as the legal expert who took Trump to jail$#@!

After which of course, Republicans will start doing it to Democrats.  Play stupid games...

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The AG in Arkansas needs to charge Bill Clinton with rape. 

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13 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

So no affair, no charges, Stormy still owes Trump $300k and the DA was withholding evidence and might be charged. This is going swimmingly well for democrats. 

He banged Stormy and had his fixer pay her off so he wouldn’t alienate people during the election.

What a waste that was, dude could bang these guy’s wives on the hood of their car and they wouldn’t care 😂😂

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57 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Besides what kind of exculpatory evidence can there be, exactly? Are you suggesting that Trump didn’t pay off the porn star? 

I don't know since it was suppressed. Wild speculation, since you asked, and not to be mistaken in any manner for what I believe:

That the direction for payment was misinterpreted or misread by the lawyer and contrary to directions he used funds from the wrong account

That the direction for the payment included, in the NDA, that Ms. Daniels specifically not reveal the matter to Mrss Trump or the kids so that it was a privacy matter and not an election matter

That the NDA extended for all time, not just during elections or terms of office, indicating this was a privacy matter and not an election matter.

That the lawyer had a history, documented, of misunderstanding directions or misdirecting funds in a complex corporate and campaign structure. 

 

Any of these being true would cripple if not negate charges.

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8 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Is there a link to this lying and exculpatory evidence?  

Not any specifics. From the Gateway Pundit article:

"According to FOX News legal mind Gregg Jarrett, Soros-funded DA Alvin Bragg HID nearly 600 pages of exculpatory evidence to the New York Grand Jury investigating President Trump."

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Gregg Jarrett: I mentioned it yesterday, I think, when Bob Costello got into that Grand Jury room and told them, “Wait a minute. You don’t have the hundreds of pages I handed over to Alvin Bragg over here? You only have six cherry-picked documents?” You know, hiding from grand juries exculpatory information is reprehensible and unconscionable. And the conduct of Alvin Bragg and his henchman Mark Pomeranz, who specifically says in his book, “We’re targeting zombies because we don’t like his beliefs,” those guys should face disbarment proceedings.

So all we have is just Bob Costello's claim that he turned over "hundreds of pages" of exculpatory information to the DA that was not given to the grand jury. At this point we don't know if any of it is actually exculpatory.

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2 minutes ago, squistion said:

Not any specifics. From the Gateway Pundit article:

"According to FOX News legal mind Gregg Jarrett, Soros-funded DA Alvin Bragg HID nearly 600 pages of exculpatory evidence to the New York Grand Jury investigating President Trump."

So all we have is just Bob Costello's claim that he turned over "hundreds of pages" of exculpatory information to the DA that was not given to the grand jury. At this point we don't know if any of it is actually exculpatory.

With an argument as strong as someone said something I can see why everyone here is upset.  It's pretty airtight. 

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1 hour ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Agreed.  You rarely walk away from any of your posts.

If that was supposed to be a gotcha! moment for you, it failed. Why would I walk away from my posts?

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3 minutes ago, squistion said:

Not any specifics. From the Gateway Pundit article:

"According to FOX News legal mind Gregg Jarrett, Soros-funded DA Alvin Bragg HID nearly 600 pages of exculpatory evidence to the New York Grand Jury investigating President Trump."

So all we have is just Bob Costello's claim that he turned over "hundreds of pages" of exculpatory information to the DA that was not given to the grand jury. At this point we don't know if any of it is actually exculpatory.

That is correct.  At best we would be reading tea leaves from the statement of Bob Costello, to the declination of prosecution by the Feds, to the resignations within the Prosecutor's own Office.  Each of these or all of these could be politically motivated, not grounded in truth.  I guess it comes down to the old "where there is smoke there is fire" presumption and that presumption is often based upon the amount of smoke, and we do not even directly see that smoke, only reports it exists.

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1 hour ago, WhiskeyCash said:

Even Stormy Daniels back in 2018 went on record saying she didn’t t have an affair with him :lol: You focking moron 

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/01/31/amid-publicity-tour-porn-star-stormy-daniels-denies-having-an-affair-with-trump.html

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-stormy-daniels-admit-fabricating-donald-trump-affair-1789595

Fact Check: Did Stormy Daniels Admit Fabricating Donald Trump Affair?

[...]

While it is true that in January 2018 a statement was released that stated Daniels said there was no affair, there's unmentioned context that invites doubt.

Following the release of that statement, Daniels appeared on Jimmy Kimmel Live!, in which she was asked "Did you sign this letter that was released today?"

"I don't know, did I?" Daniels replied, later adding: "That doesn't look my signature, does it?"

Daniels also said she "did not know where" the statement came from.

While Daniels' attorney later contradicted her comments on Kimmel, reported The Guardian, in August 2018 she then told Anderson Cooper that the statement from January was "untruthful" and the claim that the affair never happened was "a lie."

Daniels told Cooper that she signed it because she was pressured to do so by her former attorney and business manager who "made it sound like I had no choice."

Cooper said: "You thought that there would be some sort of legal repercussion if you didn't sign it?"

Daniels replied: "Correct. As a matter of fact, the exact sentence used was, 'They can make your life hell in many different ways.'"

Outside of the January 2018 statement, it does not appear that Daniels has repeated the claim that the affair didn't happen.

Furthermore, Daniels has repeatedly made statements in which she confirms that she did have relations with the former president in 2006.

[...]

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14 minutes ago, squistion said:

Not any specifics. From the Gateway Pundit article:

"According to FOX News legal mind Gregg Jarrett, Soros-funded DA Alvin Bragg HID nearly 600 pages of exculpatory evidence to the New York Grand Jury investigating President Trump."

So all we have is just Bob Costello's claim that he turned over "hundreds of pages" of exculpatory information to the DA that was not given to the grand jury. At this point we don't know if any of it is actually exculpatory.

It's not just his claim, it's his testimony to the grand jury on Monday.  Also of note:

- Costello told reporters Monday that he testified to the grand jury that Trump did not know about the $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels.

- According to Costello, in April of 2018 Cohen repeatedly stated that the Daniels payment was intended to protect the candidate’s wife, not the campaign.

- Costello said Cohen sat with the lawyer for Stormy Daniels. They negotiated a nondisclosure agreement for $130,000.

- Costello said he asked Cohen where he got it, and claimed Cohen said he took out a loan for $130,000.  The payment was made by Cohen's company and only later did Trump's company reimburse him and they logged it as "legal expenses".  

- Costello, former lawyer for Cohen testified that Cohen is a serial liar.

It was after two hours of testifying when Costello realized Bragg hadn't given the grand jury hundreds of pages of page of evidence.  🤣

I think that checks 3 or 4 of @Engorgeous George's list.

 

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15 minutes ago, squistion said:

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-stormy-daniels-admit-fabricating-donald-trump-affair-1789595

Fact Check: Did Stormy Daniels Admit Fabricating Donald Trump Affair?

[...]

While it is true that in January 2018 a statement was released that stated Daniels said there was no affair, there's unmentioned context that invites doubt.

Following the release of that statement, Daniels appeared on Jimmy Kimmel Live!, in which she was asked "Did you sign this letter that was released today?"

"I don't know, did I?" Daniels replied, later adding: "That doesn't look my signature, does it?"

Daniels also said she "did not know where" the statement came from.

While Daniels' attorney later contradicted her comments on Kimmel, reported The Guardian, in August 2018 she then told Anderson Cooper that the statement from January was "untruthful" and the claim that the affair never happened was "a lie."

Daniels told Cooper that she signed it because she was pressured to do so by her former attorney and business manager who "made it sound like I had no choice."

Cooper said: "You thought that there would be some sort of legal repercussion if you didn't sign it?"

Daniels replied: "Correct. As a matter of fact, the exact sentence used was, 'They can make your life hell in many different ways.'"

Outside of the January 2018 statement, it does not appear that Daniels has repeated the claim that the affair didn't happen.

Furthermore, Daniels has repeatedly made statements in which she confirms that she did have relations with the former president in 2006.

[...]

 

 

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This is the best they could do. Meanwhile no one can explain how Biden got so rich.  Even Biden can’t 

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