Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted August 21, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 11:05 PM, Flipper said: Trump has the thick skin I don't find that to be accurate. He sure complains and plays the victim a lot for having thick skin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WatsonRules 46 Posted August 21, 2023 57 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I don't find that to be accurate. He sure complains and plays the victim a lot for having thick skin. Lots of Trump supporters' ideas about Trump are inadequate. A lot of them think he looks like this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted August 28, 2023 Missed this, not sure it was shared, Don lemon b1tch slapping Vivek. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wade Garrett 155 Posted August 28, 2023 Why are cultist attracted to lying conmen who pose as something they're not to take advantage of cultist's low IQs? Oh wait, Trump has proven that low IQ cultist will donate hundreds of millions of dollars that's why. Cultist, Trump, the silver spoon, NYC elite, Hillary/Bill/Epstein buddy surely cares about you uneducated working class foks right? I mean his constant pics surrounded in gold like Scrooge McDuck just screams his relatability to the common cultist right? Love this for you cultist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,469 Posted August 28, 2023 Don playing the race card with a guy who is darker than him, and being a dismissive Richard in the process. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted August 28, 2023 2 hours ago, GutterBoy said: Missed this, not sure it was shared, Don lemon b1tch slapping Vivek. Don Lemon only bitches slaps his gay lovers. Lemon is completely incorrect and a master at playing the Phag black card 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,469 Posted August 28, 2023 2 hours ago, GutterBoy said: Missed this, not sure it was shared, Don lemon b1tch slapping Vivek. You also missed a couple more things: 1. This was one of the “interviews” that ended up getting Don Lemon fired. 2. Vivek’s point that Democrats instituted gun control against blacks in 1865 to prevent them from exercising the rights gained for them during the Civil War was correct and incontrovertible. https://x.com/vivekgramaswamy/status/1648672486580531201?s=46&t=IzbM3-87p2zeOh7T9ScCrQ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted August 28, 2023 Vivek has a debators mentality. I think that shines through rather often. The ability to use words, express thoughts and debate topics quickly on your feet is a strong skill. Here is my concern with that. Being gifted at debate presents as ability at first, but what is behind that? Does he really have the chops to lead? I want to think yes, but I would like to learn alot more about him to be comfortable that his is not a paper candidate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted August 29, 2023 If you're wondering how this douche bag made most of his money, it was all a grift. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,134 Posted August 29, 2023 3 hours ago, GutterBoy said: If you're wondering how this douche bag made most of his money, it was all a grift. we'll see if this is true, if it is it is unsurprising Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,134 Posted August 29, 2023 On 8/28/2023 at 10:06 AM, RLLD said: Vivek has a debators mentality. I think that shines through rather often. The ability to use words, express thoughts and debate topics quickly on your feet is a strong skill. Here is my concern with that. Being gifted at debate presents as ability at first, but what is behind that? Does he really have the chops to lead? I want to think yes, but I would like to learn alot more about him to be comfortable that his is not a paper candidate. I don't know what you are seeing here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Max Power 214 Posted August 30, 2023 On 8/28/2023 at 10:06 AM, RLLD said: Vivek has a debators mentality. I think that shines through rather often. The ability to use words, express thoughts and debate topics quickly on your feet is a strong skill. Here is my concern with that. Being gifted at debate presents as ability at first, but what is behind that? Does he really have the chops to lead? I want to think yes, but I would like to learn alot more about him to be comfortable that his is not a paper candidate. I agree, I'm seeing more of a showman than anything else. He frames arguments well and doesn't back down when confronted, says some buzzwords, but I just don't trust this guy is genuine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 356 Posted August 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Ultra Max Power said: but I just don't trust this guy is genuine. Probably for good reason. Vivek Ramaswamy partnered with the Chinese government to advance 'Chinese biopharmaceutical research abroad,' but changed tune when much-hyped endeavors went belly up 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,017 Posted August 30, 2023 5 hours ago, naomi said: Probably for good reason. Vivek Ramaswamy partnered with the Chinese government to advance 'Chinese biopharmaceutical research abroad,' but changed tune when much-hyped endeavors went belly up fauci, biden, we're used to it by now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,400 Posted August 30, 2023 On 8/28/2023 at 7:10 AM, GutterBoy said: Missed this, not sure it was shared, Don lemon b1tch slapping Vivek. That’s an ass kicking? bwahahahahaha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,400 Posted August 30, 2023 17 hours ago, GutterBoy said: If you're wondering how this douche bag made most of his money, it was all a grift. Great source. A focking tweet! bwahahahahahah 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted August 30, 2023 All of this was expected. They’re coming after him now….. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted August 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: All of this was expected. They’re coming after him now….. Is it "coming after him" in that looking at false claims to levy against him in an attempt to discredit him or is it "We're learning more about him"? If it's the former, then feel free to clarify anything inaccurate. I contend it's the latter. Also I really don't think anyone needs to "come after him" since we all know Trump will be the nominee anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted August 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Is it "coming after him" in that looking at false claims to levy against him in an attempt to discredit him or is it "We're learning more about him"? If it's the former, then feel free to clarify anything inaccurate. I contend it's the latter. Also I really don't think anyone needs to "come after him" since we all know Trump will be the nominee anyway. I think you took my comment the wrong way. I wasn’t really arguing anything only that once Vivek started rising in the polls you knew the kiddie gloves would come off towards him. Politics is a dirty, nasty game. I follow the guy pretty closely, it’s crazy as he will say something that reads totally normal, then in the press I read an article totally taking it out of context, leaving out key words or spinning it into something different. Then that “news” is picked up by other outlets and ran with. It’s amazing to watch in real time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted August 30, 2023 15 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: I think you took my comment the wrong way. I wasn’t really arguing anything only that once Vivek started rising in the polls you knew the kiddie gloves would come off towards him. Politics is a dirty, nasty game. I follow the guy pretty closely, it’s crazy as he will say something that reads totally normal, then in the press I read an article totally taking it out of context, leaving out key words or spinning it into something different. Then that “news” is picked up by other outlets and ran with. It’s amazing to watch in real time. Can you provide an example? Because this dude seems anything but normal to me. Maybe I'm just being hoodwinked by the press. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted August 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Can you provide an example? Because this dude seems anything but normal to me. Maybe I'm just being hoodwinked by the press. youve already provided plenty, the "9-11" comments being a perfect example the "he took money from George Soros" lies Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted August 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: youve already provided plenty, the "9-11" comments being a perfect example the "he took money from George Soros" lies I don't remember saying anything about 9/11, can you point it out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted August 30, 2023 1 minute ago, GutterBoy said: I don't remember saying anything about 9/11, can you point it out? maybe you didn't but one of your ilk did saying he was a 9-11 conspiracy theorist for simply pointing out that the govt hid/did not release information and naw you can find it pretty easy, its hard for me to search function on my phone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted August 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: maybe you didn't but one of your ilk did saying he was a 9-11 conspiracy theorist for simply pointing out that the govt hid/did not release information and naw you can find it pretty easy, its hard for me to search function on my phone The guy with the 180 IQ that got into Princeton at age 16 doesn't know how to use the search function. Makes sense. But No I don't remember labeling him as a 9-11 conspiracy theorist, so slow your roll there pal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 798 Posted August 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: The guy with the 180 IQ that got into Princeton at age 16 doesn't know how to use the search function. Makes sense. But No I don't remember labeling him as a 9-11 conspiracy theorist, so slow your roll there pal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted August 30, 2023 46 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Can you provide an example? Because this dude seems anything but normal to me. Maybe I'm just being hoodwinked by the press. He has stated many times that he knows man made climate change is real, however there is a “hoax” in the lefts hyperbole response to it and goes on to give a nuanced answer about how fossil fuels have saved many lives from climate (heat in cold weather) especially for the poorer folks and America needs to look at ALL forms of energy while keeping the cost to consumers in mind yada yada. Next day headline from The Hill reads: “Vivek says Climate Change is a Hoax”. Day after goes on CNN for an interview and the interviewer grills him over why he thinks Climate Change is a hoax. Vivek starts answering trying to illustrate that wasn’t what he said, then continues to explain why…..only to have the CNN interviewer start talking over him which is impossible to watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted August 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: He has stated many times that he knows man made climate change is real, however their is a “hoax” in the lefts hyperbole response to it and goes in to give a nuanced answer about how fossil fuels have saved many lives from climate (heat in cold weather) especially for the poorer folks and America needs to look at ALL forms of energy while keeping the cost to consumers in mind yada yada. Next day headline “Vivek says Climate Chase is a Hoax”. Yeah I can agree to this. He clearly says the climate change agenda is a hoax, and the media turned that into climate change is a hoax. However I can't find anywhere he says that mad made climate change is real and must be addressed. He's awfully vague on that as to not piss people off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,208 Posted August 30, 2023 32 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: maybe you didn't but one of your ilk did saying he was a 9-11 conspiracy theorist for simply pointing out that the govt hid/did not release information and naw you can find it pretty easy, its hard for me to search function on my phone I haven’t seen this guy speak a ton but did see an extended interview on CNN with him and this topic came up. I think his schtick in many cases is to say something controversial which then gets him air time to explain it. It’s an effective strategy to get face time on TV. The annoying part of this is when he acts all butthurt when media is asking him to explain these statements. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted August 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, thegeneral said: I haven’t seen this guy speak a ton but did see an extended interview on CNN with him and this topic came up. I think his schtick in many cases is to say something controversial which then gets him air time to explain it. It’s an effective strategy to get face time on TV. The annoying part of this is when he acts all butthurt when media is asking him to explain these statements. no he acts butthurt for the exact reason said above, they lie and say whatever they want and take things out of context but its to be expected you defend a man who says fire the prosecutor or you aint getting the money....errr impeach Trump 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,208 Posted August 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: no he acts butthurt for the exact reason said above, they lie and say whatever they want and take things out of context but its to be expected you defend a man who says fire the prosecutor or you aint getting the money....errr impeach Trump The interview I watched he was given tons of time to explain his statements. If he says “climate change agenda is a hoax” or whatever, then he needs to explain it when asked. He’s doing this on purpose I’d say to get attention. It’s the troll strategy, say something outrageous to illicit reaction and then get to talk about it with a nuanced answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted August 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, thegeneral said: The interview I watched he was given tons of time to explain his statements. If he says “climate change agenda is a hoax” or whatever, then he needs to explain it when asked. He’s doing this on purpose I’d say to get attention. It’s the troll strategy, say something outrageous to illicit reaction and then get to talk about it with a nuanced answer. or climate change is a hoax and he says why, you act like hes doing something different than any president remember your boy Biden ran on "Good people on both sides hoax" the difference is, he didnt even have to explain it cause the "news" won't call him out, just defend Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,419 Posted August 30, 2023 Gutterboy disqualifies Vivek due to him being a grifter. That’s fine. But he’ll vote for Biden. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,208 Posted August 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: or climate change is a hoax and he says why, you act like hes doing something different than any president remember your boy Biden ran on "Good people on both sides hoax" the difference is, he didnt even have to explain it cause the "news" won't call him out, just defend Ok first he didn’t say in the debate that climate change is a hoax…he was very specific to say the agenda is a hoax. This is why he needs to clarify, seeing as you seem to be confused as well at what he said. This happens by being asked to explain it what the hell he’s talking about. Second, he’s just another dickbag running for the nom at this point. He’s polling at like 6% in Iowa. He’s a half a step above a nobody. He should be thankful for the press…and is exactly why he is doing this I would contend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,760 Posted August 30, 2023 1. It’s disingenuous to use the word “hoax” with regard to climate change “agenda” and then argue that you’re not talking about climate change itself; only the left’s reaction to it. You can totally disagree with the left’s reaction but how is it a hoax? By using that word you’re implying the whole thing is fake; by adding the word “agenda” you’re giving yourself an out when called on it. 2. It’s disingenuous to criticize the actions of the 19th century and early 20th century Democratic Party within the context of discussing the modern day Democratic Party. This is what makes Vivik, and those who support his comments on these issues, so dishonest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,400 Posted August 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Ok first he didn’t say in the debate that climate change is a hoax…he was very specific to say the agenda is a hoax. This is why he needs to clarify, seeing as you seem to be confused as well at what he said. This happens by being asked to explain it what the hell he’s talking about. Second, he’s just another dickbag running for the nom at this point. He’s polling at like 6% in Iowa. He’s a half a step above a nobody. He should be thankful for the press…and is exactly why he is doing this I would contend. 43 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Yeah I can agree to this. He clearly says the climate change agenda is a hoax, and the media turned that into climate change is a hoax. However I can't find anywhere he says that mad made climate change is real and must be addressed. He's awfully vague on that as to not piss people off. Well , well, well. Lookie here. Congratulations you too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,419 Posted August 30, 2023 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: 1. It’s disingenuous to use the word “hoax” with regard to climate change “agenda” and then argue that you’re not talking about climate change itself; only the left’s reaction to it. You can totally disagree with the left’s reaction but how is it a hoax? By using that word you’re implying the whole thing is fake; by adding the word “agenda” you’re giving yourself an out when called on it. 2. It’s disingenuous to criticize the actions of the 19th century and early 20th century Democratic Party within the context of discussing the modern day Democratic Party. This is what makes Vivik, and those who support his comments on these issues, so dishonest. #2 is hilarious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,208 Posted August 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Alias Detective said: Well , well, well. Lookie here. Congratulations you too. He is doing this type of stuff on purpose to get attention. Fine. But spare the drama queen BS when asked further to explain what you mean. The guy has big time used car salesman vibes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,760 Posted August 30, 2023 The left is very clear on how they want to address climate change. Type in “Green New Deal” and you can get AOC’s whole plan, all of the restrictions she wants. Look up Greta Thunberg’s website and you can get the left’s proposals on a world wide scale. How is any of this a “hoax”? Using that word is deliberate and dishonest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted August 30, 2023 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: He is doing this type of stuff on purpose to get attention. Fine. But spare the drama queen BS when asked further to explain what you mean. The guy has big time used car salesman vibes. Exactly. He looks to be a great BS artist. It made him a billionaire, but let's not make him president. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites