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6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

No he’s telling the truth. You’re lying. There’s not a single person here who celebrated those insane murders. If you can find someone who did, post it. Otherwise shut the hell up. 

You’re the other liar here so I wouldn’t be talking if I were you :lol: 

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2 hours ago, Engorgeous George said:

I can't.  I cannot also show you in the law or the Constitution where it says to not poke a bear from inside the cage, where it says cto not get involved in a kland war in asia, where it saysx to not go in against a Scilian when death is on the line, or thousands of other irrelevant non sequiturs.  We were talking about judgment, not strict legality.  Rittenhouse lacked judgment.

Don’t drink so early in the morning 

 

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44 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Don’t drink so early in the morning 

 

Because you like to have the bar to yourself? :banana:

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1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cr8fyEDNkej/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
 

everyone of these “protestors” should be arrested. It’s not a protest when you interrupt peoples lives. That’s not a protected right 

Liberals love "protesting". It's just part of being a snowflake ❄️. Everything has to offend and upset them. 

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3 hours ago, BillyKing said:

Pretty sure you and the rest of the liberal trash defended the tranny that shot up a school of Christian’s. So fock off you lying POS 

He Also defended the tranny that raped the girl in the school bathroom in Virginia, and if that wasn’t low enough, went after the victim and her family.  Laughed at them.  

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12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

He Also defended the tranny that raped the girl in the school bathroom in Virginia, and if that wasn’t low enough, went after the victim and her family.  Laughed at them.  

Link? 

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2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Link? 

Go read the thread. 

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3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Link? 

He actually did. He also said that he'd take his kids to a Drag Queen show if his kids asked. Don't ask me to go back and look for his posts, I'm too lazy 😞, but he definitely said that. 

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1 minute ago, League Champion said:

He actually did. He also said that he'd take his kids to a Drag Queen show if his kids asked. Don't ask me to go back and look for his posts, I'm too lazy 😞, but he definitely said that. 

I don’t care about the drag show stuff. I think that’s fine. 
 

If he laughed at somebody dying, made fun of victims, that’s a different story. But somebody had better provide a link before they make that accusation. 

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12 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I don’t care about the drag show stuff. I think that’s fine. 
 

If he laughed at somebody dying, made fun of victims, that’s a different story. But somebody had better provide a link before they make that accusation. 

Better? I told you to go red the thread if you’re interested.  If not Stfu. 

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Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Better? I told you to go red the thread if you’re interested.  If not Stfu. 

Link? You made the accusation. I’m not reading through some thread. Back it up or take your own advice. 

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Link? You made the accusation. I’m not reading through some thread. Back it up or take your own advice. 

You’re just too afraid to look at the disgusting things your fellow libtard pal said. 

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1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

I don’t care about the drag show stuff. I think that’s fine. 
 

If he laughed at somebody dying, made fun of victims, that’s a different story. But somebody had better provide a link before they make that accusation. 

I didn't.  These 2 clowns are obsessed with me and are constantly spreading BS.  I never said I'd take my kids to a drag show, never defended a rapist, never made fun of a victim.  What I did was laughed at the victims father tramp stamp after he got taken down by cops for being a d1ck.  Also in that same thread, tardcore said he wishes my kids get raped.

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3 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

  I never said I'd take my kids to a drag show, never defended a rapist, never made fun of a victim. 

Men don't lie. You defend ALL Liberal behavior. 

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16 minutes ago, League Champion said:

Men don't lie. You defend ALL Liberal behavior. 

Prove me wrong, b1tch.  You're right men don't lie, and you're a little lying b1tch.

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9 hours ago, jerryskids said:

This is pretty much where I stand, without the typos.  :D  Seriously though, I think it is important to differentiate if it was OK for him to engage (I have no problem with it) vs. his skill at the choke hold:  we hear that he was a Marine and think oh, he knew what he was doing, he's a fighting machine!  Well, maybe, but that wasn't a very effective carotid choke.  If so he should have been out in seconds.  But Penny never cinched it with his other arm.  He certainly doesn't look like an MMA expert.  

Indeed.  Bad typos even by my standards, and I am the king of typos.

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31 minutes ago, Mr Fantasy said:

 

As we all were sure was the case. They just wanted to restrain the crazed lunatic, not kill him or get poop on themselves.

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47 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

As we all were sure was the case. They just wanted to restrain the crazed lunatic, not kill him or get poop on themselves.

It’s of course the most common sense conclusion.  Crazy dude has a psychotic moment, threatening the public in a confined space, wanting to be arrested, wanting to die. Alpha Male subdues him, and thinks he chokes him out.  Then gets up, all the passengers thank him, he sees the dude out and helps the other guys put him in a recovery position and calls 911.  
 

Unfortunately the guy passed out but then died.  Again, I’m speculating but I’d wager a days pay he was drugs too.  Anyway……even IF you think the Marine should have done nothing and let this guy torment and attack the public as he has an extensive history the the MOST he would be charged with is involuntary manslaughter.  That’s the extreme most.  Personally, dude was doing the public a service, didn’t mean to kill him but unfortunately the guy died in the process.  :dunno:
 

Now we riot!$&@!  Not sure why exactly, but fock it. 

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5 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

It’s of course the most common sense conclusion.  Crazy dude has a psychotic moment, threatening the public in a confined space, wanting to be arrested, wanting to die. Alpha Male subdues him, and thinks he chokes him out.  Then gets up, all the passengers thank him, he sees the dude out and helps the other guys put him in a recovery position and calls 911.  
 

Unfortunately the guy passed out but then died.  Again, I’m speculating but I’d wager a days pay he was drugs too.  Anyway……even IF you think the Marine should have done nothing and let this guy torment and attack the public as he has an extensive history the the MOST he would be charged with is involuntary manslaughter.  That’s the extreme most.  Personally, dude was doing the public a service, didn’t mean to kill him but unfortunately the guy died in the process.  :dunno:

I believe the law in NYC is self defense needs to be proportional and match the threat. No clue how they are going to determine this but the eye witnesses will be the key I would think. We are just seeing this one little video clip.

It’s pretty wild there aren’t more videos with the way everyone records everything.

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12 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I believe the law in NYC is self defense needs to be proportional and match the threat.

Agreed, people should always wait to be shot before shooting back.  One should always wait until knifed before knifing back.  At no point should one protect yourself or the public based on direct threats, you should wait to be knocked out first before reacting. 

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30 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

Agreed, people should always wait to be shot before shooting back.  One should always wait until knifed before knifing back.  At no point should one protect yourself or the public based on direct threats, you should wait to be knocked out first before reacting. 

That’s just what the law is. How people determine this is what will make the case or not.

If I were to guess he’ll get charged but won’t be found guilty.

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1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

That’s just what the law is. How people determine this is what will make the case or not.

If I were to guess he’ll get charged but won’t be found guilty.

No it's not. 

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3 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

No it's not. 

I’m definitely not a lawyer and just going off what I read and heard and my non-legal training understanding.

What is the NY law?

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I believe the people that are protesting are completely wrong about this event. I don’t believe Penny should be prosecuted and it would be a shame if he is: 

That being said, I really wish some of you would at least try to understand why these protests are happening. It’s not because they’re crazy radical leftists or any of the other nonsense that’s being spread around in this thread. It’s because there’s a history of black people being held by chokeholds and killed, George Floyd being only the most famous example of countless others. And this has been going on for decades; recall that in Spike Lee’s Do The Right Thing, nearly 35 years old, the pivotal moment that caused the riot was a chokehold of an unruly black guy which resulted in death. And that film took place in NYC, though any urban area would have been just as suitable. 
 

The point I am making is that many people are sick and tired of these chokeholds. They’re angry about it, and they have a right to be angry. Unfortunately that means they’re not willing to look at situations like this one objectively. 

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6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I believe the people that are protesting are completely wrong about this event. I don’t believe Penny should be prosecuted and it would be a shame if he is: 

That being said, I really wish some of you would at least try to understand why these protests are happening. It’s not because they’re crazy radical leftists or any of the other nonsense that’s being spread around in this thread. It’s because there’s a history of black people being held by chokeholds and killed, George Floyd being only the most famous example of countless others. And this has been going on for decades; recall that in Spike Lee’s Do The Right Thing, nearly 35 years old, the pivotal moment that caused the riot was a chokehold of an unruly black guy which resulted in death. And that film took place in NYC, though any urban area would have been just as suitable. 
 

The point I am making is that many people are sick and tired of these chokeholds. They’re angry about it, and they have a right to be angry. Unfortunately that means they’re not willing to look at situations like this one objectively. 

How can you be certain he shouldn’t be prosecuted when there are so many details that the NYC cops haven’t made public?

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39 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

How can you be certain he shouldn’t be prosecuted when there are so many details that the NYC cops haven’t made public?

I’m not at all. I’m going completely by what’s been reported. But then so are the protestors and so is everyone in this thread. That’s what we have to work with. If more evidence comes out that contradicts my understanding of the affair, then of course I would change my mind as I hope any reasonable person would. 

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3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’m not at all. I’m going completely by what’s been reported. But then so are the protestors and so is everyone in this thread. That’s what we have to work with. If more evidence comes out that contradicts my understanding of the affair, then of course I would change my mind as I hope any reasonable person would. 

I guess the “it would be a shame” line was a bit much for me at this point. Waiting for the cops or whatever NYC official to give more details is probably most prudent thing to do.

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6 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

The point I am making is that many people are sick and tired of these chokeholds. They’re angry about it, and they have a right to be angry. Unfortunately that means they’re not willing to look at situations like this one objectively

Can you imagine if white people rioted and looted every time a black killed a white?

They're would be nothing left to loot. 

This proves the point that they're just looking for excuses to riot. 

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40 minutes ago, League Champion said:

Can you imagine if white people rioted and looted every time a black killed a white?

They're would be nothing left to loot. 

This proves the point that they're just looking for excuses to riot. 

There’s been no rioting over this issue.  Only peaceful protests which is not the same thing. 
 

In any case your entire premise is a false one. In the history of this country, white reactions to racially charged incidents have been far more violent than black ones. There have been far more white riots and violence than there have been black,, and that includes recent history. Read White Rage by Carol Anderson: 

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26073085

 

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9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

There’s been no rioting over this issue.  Only peaceful protests which is not the same thing. 
 

In any case your entire premise is a false one. In the history of this country, white reactions to racially charged incidents have been far more violent than black ones. There have been far more white riots and violence than there have been black,, and that includes recent history. Read White Rage by Carol Anderson: 

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26073085

 

I presume every story in White Rage is from fifty years ago because ... um... well... many of us have spent the last fifty years following the news and know it's premise is absurd in 2023.

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6 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

I presume every story in White Rage is from fifty years ago because ... um... well... many of us have spent the last fifty years following the news and know it's premise is absurd in 2023.

Anderson details her thesis of white backlash in the United States[1] and states that structural racism has brought about white anger and resentment. Her analysis of American history is that whenever African Americans gained social power, there was considerable backlash. She describes the Jim Crow era as a reaction to the end of the American Civil War and to the Reconstruction era. She further describes the shutdown of schools in response to the Brown v. Board of Education, ruling of the US Supreme Court and the opposition to the Voting Rights Act of 1965 as causes of the Southern Strategy and the War on Drugs, which she says were both attempts to disenfranchise black voters.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Rage

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Oh, yes bullsh*t from fifty years ago. Yes we know there was racism 50 years ago. We also know there's structural racism today, although it's all one-sided upside down racism of the left's making. 

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26 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Anderson details her thesis of white backlash in the United States[1] and states that structural racism has brought about white anger and resentment. Her analysis of American history is that whenever African Americans gained social power, there was considerable backlash. She describes the Jim Crow era as a reaction to the end of the American Civil War and to the Reconstruction era. She further describes the shutdown of schools in response to the Brown v. Board of Education, ruling of the US Supreme Court and the opposition to the Voting Rights Act of 1965 as causes of the Southern Strategy and the War on Drugs, which she says were both attempts to disenfranchise black voters.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Rage

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Oh, yes bullsh*t from fifty years ago. Yes we know there was racism 50 years ago. We also know there's structural racism today, although it's all one-sided upside down racism of the left's making. 

No your presumption is wrong. The structural racism against blacks continues, there is none against whites. And the violence by whites against blacks is a lot more recent than 50 years ago: just look at the mass murders last year. 

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