Sound of Freedom

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236]

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2023/07/biden-doj-quietly-removes-child-sex-trafficking-content-from-its-website/
 

Dems support trafficking 

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12 hours ago, Cdub100 said:

Easy captain jump to conclusion. I wouldn't watch their movie because they probably blame trump or climate change or some stupid sh1t.

I'm just saying I find it weird liberal media is attacking this movie they way they are. Just ignore it. 

They cannot.  It would be like asking a Muslim to ignore a slight against Allah.....   their religion (liberalism) mandates an active posture toward infidels.  This movie is a threat to The Party with its content.  They do not yet have the suffocating censorship of China which they long for, until then they will close ranks and attack.

[BuckSwope 654]

Lol.  you guys are too much.  

The critiques lobbed at this movie are nothing new (right and left), but you all are predictably eating it up.  

[HellToupee 1,583]

hilarious 

[Sean Mooney 1,936]

Unfortunately movies are going to be politicized anymore based off of the content of the movie, the director of the movie, the actors involved, or the subject matter.

People shat all over Captain Marvel and Ghostbusters: Women before it was even out because it offended "men" for some reason (To be fair, the latter was not a good movie in the end)

Cavizel has made his stand known on things and it will affect the perception of the movie with critics. Same deal with someone like a Michael Moore documentary or Mel Gibson or Sean Penn or some other outspoken individual film.

If a film has a gay character it is "carrying out an agenda."

It's all stupid and it is further fake outrage culture. Nobody supports pedophiles and much of the criticism of the movie seems to be about the plot contrivances more than anything...but point that out and people scream "You support child trafficking." It's all silly and stupid. 

[BuckSwope 654]

43 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Unfortunately movies are going to be politicized anymore based off of the content of the movie, the director of the movie, the actors involved, or the subject matter.

People shat all over Captain Marvel and Ghostbusters: Women before it was even out because it offended "men" for some reason (To be fair, the latter was not a good movie in the end)

Cavizel has made his stand known on things and it will affect the perception of the movie with critics. Same deal with someone like a Michael Moore documentary or Mel Gibson or Sean Penn or some other outspoken individual film.

If a film has a gay character it is "carrying out an agenda."

It's all stupid and it is further fake outrage culture. Nobody supports pedophiles and much of the criticism of the movie seems to be about the plot contrivances more than anything...but point that out and people scream "You support child trafficking." It's all silly and stupid. 

Exactly.  The criticisms and reasons are no different than 100s of other movies.     People don't want to give Mel Gibson or Woody Allen their money or see their movie, and now they might not want to give these people their money or see their movie.    

Reading through critic reviews it reads like a lot of other movies I can think of from American Sniper to Hacksaw Ridge to many others - a whiff of religion/politics, over fetishizing violence, most of the same things that are being said about this movie that people are overreacting to for whatever reason.  

And let's not pretend that forming an opinion on something without seeing it or reading it is anything new.  

[Stryker Ryker 188]

Saw it last night. Great film. Had zero political stances in it which is why I’m confused the left keeps trying to say it’s some right wing propaganda film with “bogus statistics”. I’m all for criticizing films if you don’t like it but the left seems to be going out of their way to denigrate this movie, the real life story, the real life person who the story is about, and the kids who were saved during this. Any time I see people trying to do this I automatically think “what are you trying to hide?” 

[TimHauck 2,600]

I like how people seem to be acting like this movie is a documentary.

Appears to be like any other “based on a true story” movie that embellishes stuff and is for entertainment, not teaching lessons.
 

Wouldn’t mind seeing it though:

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236]

really good interview, he tells his story of what was real, what was hollywood

I dont see how 100% of people cannot support this work

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236]

23 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I like how people seem to be acting like this movie is a documentary.

Appears to be like any other “based on a true story” movie that embellishes stuff and is for entertainment, not teaching lessons.
 

Wouldn’t mind seeing it though:

who is acting like its a documentary?

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,915]

24 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I like how people seem to be acting like this movie is a documentary.

Appears to be like any other “based on a true story” movie that embellishes stuff and is for entertainment, not teaching lessons.
 

Wouldn’t mind seeing it though:

I bet Hidden Figures was incredibly accurate. Don’t remember anyone on the left bringing that up.  So if that’s the criticism, Fock off. 

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

11 hours ago, BuckSwope said:

Lol.  you guys are too much.  

The critiques lobbed at this movie are nothing new (right and left), but you all are predictably eating it up.  

 

 

You say you have a child. 

You've said this in public in an open forum, no one is doxxing you here. What happens if your kid grows up and has viewpoints and beliefs that are "not politically expedient" and "no longer fit the narrative"? 

The point of the activist MSM attacking Sound Of Freedom is to crush diversity of thought and diversity of opinion. You probably work very hard in your job or career to give your child a better life. Like most people in here and most people in the country. Part of a "better life" is choices. When you exist in a structure that only has one very very very narrow view of what is socially acceptable without being "cancelled", that's not having choices. 

You laugh. But it's your child who will grow up to pick up the check for that. That will end up footing the bill for your indifference. 

If the activist radical left get their dream and wipe out Conservatives and Republicans and poor white rural Christian America, then who becomes the "new right wing" after that? What if it's you and your kid? What makes you so special, so valuable, so needed by the radical left that they won't eventually go down that "list" and purify you too? 

You'll "defend the tribe" without any regard for that tribe having no actual mercy for you and yours once they need to find a new target to purify. 

Laugh some more if you want. You are standing on the graves of people you love while you do it. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

51 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

really good interview, he tells his story of what was real, what was hollywood

I dont see how 100% of people cannot support this work

 

Support the cause?  yes.

Support the grifter profiting off the cause?  Not so much.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,915]

3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Support the cause?  yes.

Support the grifter profiting off the cause?  Not so much.

You should ask for your contribution to BLM back.  

[TimHauck 2,600]

56 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

who is acting like its a documentary?

 

You, if you think it will “start a trend to actually fight child trafficking”

Did the Erin Brockovich movie start a trend to fight utility companies?

[GutterBoy 2,898]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You should ask for your contribution to BLM back.  

I never contributed to blm.  Nice try.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,915]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

I never contributed to blm.  Nice try.

You are or were an ally though. You support the cause. 

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

I didn’t want to believe the left were so evil they would protect and defend pedos yet here we are. 

[dogcows 1,030]

1 hour ago, Blue Horseshoe said:

 

 

You say you have a child. 

You've said this in public in an open forum, no one is doxxing you here. What happens if your kid grows up and has viewpoints and beliefs that are "not politically expedient" and "no longer fit the narrative"? 

The point of the activist MSM attacking Sound Of Freedom is to crush diversity of thought and diversity of opinion. You probably work very hard in your job or career to give your child a better life. Like most people in here and most people in the country. Part of a "better life" is choices. When you exist in a structure that only has one very very very narrow view of what is socially acceptable without being "cancelled", that's not having choices. 

You laugh. But it's your child who will grow up to pick up the check for that. That will end up footing the bill for your indifference. 

If the activist radical left get their dream and wipe out Conservatives and Republicans and poor white rural Christian America, then who becomes the "new right wing" after that? What if it's you and your kid? What makes you so special, so valuable, so needed by the radical left that they won't eventually go down that "list" and purify you too? 

You'll "defend the tribe" without any regard for that tribe having no actual mercy for you and yours once they need to find a new target to purify. 

Laugh some more if you want. You are standing on the graves of people you love while you do it. 

Your stupid shtick of posting 1000 videos a day is annoying. I thought maybe you were just a weirdo though. But now you’re discussing people’s kids dying as part of the conversation? You’re truly a piece of . Leave other people’s kids out of your disgusting fantasies. 

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

Growing up in a leftist household should be considered child abuse. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828]

44 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

I never contributed to blm.  Nice try.

Sure you didn't.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

You, if you think it will “start a trend to actually fight child trafficking”

Did the Erin Brockovich movie start a trend to fight utility companies?

It brought more awareness to it. So yes. I only know of the town of hinkley because of it. A lot of people don’t realize there are more kids in sec trafficking than there ever have been slaves. Maybe people will wake up to that. 
 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236]

1 hour ago, GutterBoy said:

Support the cause?  yes.

Support the grifter profiting off the cause?  Not so much.

He’s a grifter now. Tell me you know nothing about Tim Ballard without telling me you know nothing

the dude has started multiple organizations to fight child trafficking. Even has a private company that is being funded that does this

not to mention douchebags on your team praised this movie 8 years ago when it was first presented only to find nobody in Hollywood wanted to produce it. Wonder why. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

12 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

He’s a grifter now. Tell me you know nothing about Tim Ballard without telling me you know nothing

the dude has started multiple organizations to fight child trafficking. Even has a private company that is being funded that does this

not to mention douchebags on your team praised this movie 8 years ago when it was first presented only to find nobody in Hollywood wanted to produce it. Wonder why. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/behindthebastards/comments/14xzotx/have_you_seen_the_sound_of_freedom_movie/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=2

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

25 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

He’s a grifter now. Tell me you know nothing about Tim Ballard without telling me you know nothing

the dude has started multiple organizations to fight child trafficking. Even has a private company that is being funded that does this

not to mention douchebags on your team praised this movie 8 years ago when it was first presented only to find nobody in Hollywood wanted to produce it. Wonder why. 

 

Two things can be true at the same time. 

Donald Trump IMHO is a 4th rate failed reality TV star and exhausting narcissist grifter who keeps taking each situation and making it worse for himself. He makes everything so much harder than it needs to be and he needs to learn to shut up most of the time. 

But he's right in that there is a clear "Deep State" and "Swamp" and that the activist complicit MSM is an enemy of the average working class American. He's also right that he's been politically persecuted beyond all reasonable measure. He's also likely half right that the 2020 general election was not a "free and fair election" ( My take is both sides cheated, but one side simply had more overall assets, money and overall firepower to do it) 

Tim Ballard is mostly likely a grifter, but he can also be doing some good for innocent children around the world at the same time. 

The way we all understand professional baseball was changed by Pablo Escobar. He loved baseball. He built baseball fields everywhere. He supported the pathway for baseball for youth not just in his country but other countries as well. He also built hospitals, parks and many other public works. I'm not saying all that was altruistic. He was also a grifter looking to buy off people from turning on him. Two things can be true at the same time. Escobar was one of the most notorious criminals in human history and was the catalyst for so much death and suffering in the world. But there are probably people alive today that were saved in hospitals that he built and funded. 

Team Blue's position will always be - Just because we don't like you, everything you say is wrong. 

Which is idiotic. 

Someone can be hated and still be right. Someone can be despised and still have many good and fair points to make about a specific issue. Biden's 1994 Crime Bill was patently racist. But it also probably took some criminals off the street that would have killed innocents.

Denouncing Ballard without any practical context is dangerous. For the application of real free speech. I don't think the radical leftists see it. Whether or not you agree with Ballard or what he does and says, the active coordination by the activist hard left leaning corrupt MSM against him is an attack on EVERYONE'S FREE SPEECH as a matter of principle. 

Some people will refuse to see it until the one day, down the road, where they are forced to line up against a wall. Then they'll be put on their knees and get their throats cut for wrong think. Don't believe me? Crack open a history book sometime. Well do so before the radical left finish rewriting all the books. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,915]

32 minutes ago, Blue Horseshoe said:

 

Two things can be true at the same time. 

Donald Trump IMHO is a 4th rate failed reality TV star and exhausting narcissist grifter who keeps taking each situation and making it worse for himself. He makes everything so much harder than it needs to be and he needs to learn to shut up most of the time. 

But he's right in that there is a clear "Deep State" and "Swamp" and that the activist complicit MSM is an enemy of the average working class American. He's also right that he's been politically persecuted beyond all reasonable measure. He's also likely half right that the 2020 general election was not a "free and fair election" ( My take is both sides cheated, but one side simply had more overall assets, money and overall firepower to do it) 

Tim Ballard is mostly likely a grifter, but he can also be doing some good for innocent children around the world at the same time. 

The way we all understand professional baseball was changed by Pablo Escobar. He loved baseball. He built baseball fields everywhere. He supported the pathway for baseball for youth not just in his country but other countries as well. He also built hospitals, parks and many other public works. I'm not saying all that was altruistic. He was also a grifter looking to buy off people from turning on him. Two things can be true at the same time. Escobar was one of the most notorious criminals in human history and was the catalyst for so much death and suffering in the world. But there are probably people alive today that were saved in hospitals that he built and funded. 

Team Blue's position will always be - Just because we don't like you, everything you say is wrong. 

Which is idiotic. 

Someone can be hated and still be right. Someone can be despised and still have many good and fair points to make about a specific issue. Biden's 1994 Crime Bill was patently racist. But it also probably took some criminals off the street that would have killed innocents.

Denouncing Ballard without any practical context is dangerous. For the application of real free speech. I don't think the radical leftists see it. Whether or not you agree with Ballard or what he does and says, the active coordination by the activist hard left leaning corrupt MSM against him is an attack on EVERYONE'S FREE SPEECH as a matter of principle. 

Some people will refuse to see it until the one day, down the road, where they are forced to line up against a wall. Then they'll be put on their knees and get their throats cut for wrong think. Don't believe me? Crack open a history book sometime. Well do so before the radical left finish rewriting all the books. 

How was Trump a failure at TV? I didn’t watch that dumb show but wasn’t it a hit? 

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

14 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

How was Trump a failure at TV? I didn’t watch that dumb show but wasn’t it a hit? 

 

 

 

My baseline point is it's dangerous for the activist complicit MSM to simply write off things they don't like or contradicts their agenda as "right wing" 

Hillbilly Elegy got hit badly because it featured a Republican (JD Vance) and it put poor white rural Christian America in a sympathetic light. It doesn't fit easily into the Team Blue Identity Politics narrative. 

More to point, just because some people despise Trump and/or his supporters, it doesn't automatically invalidate every last single thing they say or do. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236]

1 hour ago, GutterBoy said:

https://www.reddit.com/r/behindthebastards/comments/14xzotx/have_you_seen_the_sound_of_freedom_movie/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=2

cool bro, if only you had a reddit thread about the clinton foundation and spoke out adamantly 

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

 

 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

5 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

cool bro, if only you had a reddit thread about the clinton foundation and spoke out adamantly 

Yeah but the Clintons!

[GutterBoy 2,898]

Connections to the QAnon conspiracy theory

According to Variety, "detractors [are] accusing the film of embellishing the reality of child exploitation and stoking QAnon conspiracy theories."[4]

Both Ballard and star Caviezel have been public about their belief in several conspiracy theories of the QAnon movement.[25][26]

Caviezel spoke at two QAnon conventions in 2021, endorsing the belief that child traffickers drain children's blood to obtain adrenochrome.[25] At one of those events, Caviezel mentioned that Ballard was supposed to appear at the conference but was "saving victims of trafficking" who were victims of "adrenochroming", a practice whose existence is suggested by QAnon adherents.[27] Caviezel suggested he had seen evidence of children being subjected to the practice.[28] The event also included appearances by other QAnon promoters, such as L. Lin Wood[29] and Michael Flynn.[30]

Caviezel reiterated his belief in the adrenochrome conspiracy theory during the press tour for Sound of Freedom.[24]

[BuckSwope 654]

7 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

It brought more awareness to it. So yes. I only know of the town of hinkley because of it. A lot of people don’t realize there are more kids in sec trafficking than there ever have been slaves. Maybe people will wake up to that. 
 

Awesome, I'm glad the movie is doing that.   That doesn't mean the foundation they are telling people to donate to is a worthwhile use of people's money.  I have 0 question that he is passionate about the topic and commend him for starting up something to tackle the issue.   But there are a lot of foundations I would tell people to research and I always encourage to look into it before giving their money to a cause (look into some of the big cancer foundations).  The dude's politics and beliefs aside, IF it's true that 50%+ of the money isn't being touched and a good portion of the rest is being used for other things, don't you want to know that?  It happens all the time with charities - they get big, bloated, and a ton of money goes back to the people founding it, employees, advertising.  If you are donating money and don't look into where it goes, I don't know what to tell you.   Of these options, I would say #3 is the least likely outcome of people seeing this movie:

1.  they go, become "aware" of the issue, and do nothing.  Well, maybe post online about it for a day and how horrible it is (my guess at the most likely outcome)

2.  they go, become aware of the issue, donate $ to the foundation advertised at the end.

3.  they go, become aware, do some research and of from there.  

 

It is really weird that asking people to #3 is some lib stance or somehow saying you support child trafficking.   By telling you to make sure the biggest % of your money or help actually is used for helping the kids?  

[GutterBoy 2,898]

CharityWatch is providing a "?" rating for Operation Underground Railroad (O.U.R.) at this time due to our concerns related to a reported investigation into the organization, according to Fox 13 News of Salt Lake City, Utah.  

https://www.charitywatch.org/charities/operation-underground-railroad#analysts-notes

[Hardcore troubadour 14,915]

They hate this movie. But will make jackasses out of themselves defending Disney. Men.  

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

They hate this movie. But will make jackasses out of themselves defending Disney. Men.  

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CukQc7CsyA5/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
 

yah it’s a terrible organization 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

 In 2021 the organization took in more than $42 million. But here’s where it gets interesting. In that same year, 2021, the organization spent only about $31 million on its work of allegedly rescuing sex trafficking victims. The year before, 2020, the numbers are even more strange. OUR took in $45 million but spent only $13.5 million. It had a whopping $33.9 million in profit.

 

And if you can stand a little more math, the bottom line is this: Operation Underground Railroad has a massive total of more than $80 million in assets, most of that accumulated in the past two years alone.The charity’s methodology seemed to actually encourage trafficking behavior in some instances, sources said.

That’s enough money to fund operations for OUR for nearly three years even if it doesn’t raise another dime. But don’t count on that. OUR spent $3.5 million on fundraising in 2021, and $1.8 million in 2020.

They told of operations that involved flashing money at clubs and bars to encourage pimps to show up with sex workers. When they did, operatives would insist on being shown younger girls, whom the sources felt had been immediately trafficked to meet the operatives’ demands.

The field of human trafficking has received increased scrutiny in recent years as the methods and claims of success of human trafficking organizations have been called into question. In February, Ministry Watch reported on a situation in which U.S.-based non-profit Christian Solidarity International traded cattle vaccines for slaves in the Sudan. A spokesperson for World Vision International to point out that doing so might become an incentive for slavers to capture more victims.

 

https://ministrywatch.com/sound-of-freedom-doesnt-tell-true-story-of-operation-underground-railroad

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236]

22 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Awesome, I'm glad the movie is doing that.   That doesn't mean the foundation they are telling people to donate to is a worthwhile use of people's money.  I have 0 question that he is passionate about the topic and commend him for starting up something to tackle the issue.   But there are a lot of foundations I would tell people to research and I always encourage to look into it before giving their money to a cause (look into some of the big cancer foundations).  The dude's politics and beliefs aside, IF it's true that 50%+ of the money isn't being touched and a good portion of the rest is being used for other things, don't you want to know that?  It happens all the time with charities - they get big, bloated, and a ton of money goes back to the people founding it, employees, advertising.  If you are donating money and don't look into where it goes, I don't know what to tell you.   Of these options, I would say #3 is the least likely outcome of people seeing this movie:

1.  they go, become "aware" of the issue, and do nothing.  Well, maybe post online about it for a day and how horrible it is (my guess at the most likely outcome)

2.  they go, become aware of the issue, donate $ to the foundation advertised at the end.

3.  they go, become aware, do some research and of from there.  

 

It is really weird that asking people to #3 is some lib stance or somehow saying you support child trafficking.   By telling you to make sure the biggest % of your money or help actually is used for helping the kids?  

I won’t donate money to any foundation ever no matter what they do or don’t do. I just don’t understand the bashing of the movie or the work they do 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I won’t donate money to any foundation ever no matter what they do or don’t do.

What a charitable guy.

3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I just don’t understand the bashing of the movie or the work they do 

The work they do is being questioned, as it should.

[jonmx 2,424]

17 hours ago, Stryker Ryker said:

Saw it last night. Great film. Had zero political stances in it which is why I’m confused the left keeps trying to say it’s some right wing propaganda film with “bogus statistics”. I’m all for criticizing films if you don’t like it but the left seems to be going out of their way to denigrate this movie, the real life story, the real life person who the story is about, and the kids who were saved during this. Any time I see people trying to do this I automatically think “what are you trying to hide?” 

You have to realize where the true lines are drawn to understand the war we are fighting.  Forget about left vs. Right or liberal vs. Conservatives.  The real battle lines are between big government-corporate establishment vs. the Individual.  This movie shows how big bureaucracies are cold ruthless failures and how individuals can better solve real problems in a humanistic way.   And that is why the corporate bureaucrats are throwing a hissy fit, it exposes them as the authoritarian cold bastards they are. 

[BuckSwope 654]

9 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I won’t donate money to any foundation ever no matter what they do or don’t do. I just don’t understand the bashing of the movie or the work they do 

No, what is being criticized is their Q beliefs, how the foundation is run, and if it's doing what they claim it's doing.  They aren't bashing that someone is dedicating their lives to helping kids or addressing child trafficking.