Shohei Ohtani - 1st 75 million per season athlete?

[edjr 6,593]

top 5 hitter and top 10 pitcher. - Should get 75 million easy.

Which team will pay it? 

[wiffleball 4,790]

Small strike zone. 

 

https://images.app.goo.gl/b7qgfN5T3i1Fahhr5

[seafoam1 3,031]

10 hours ago, wiffleball said:

Small strike zone. 

 

https://images.app.goo.gl/b7qgfN5T3i1Fahhr5

[edjr 6,593]

Looks like the Blue Jays are ponying up 600 million

[Hardcore troubadour 15,446]

1 minute ago, edjr said:

Looks like the Blue Jays are ponying up 600 million

Lots of Asians in Toronto.  

[thegeneral 3,214]

I’m picking Dodgers. 

[edjr 6,593]

37 minutes ago, edjr said:

Looks like the Blue Jays are ponying up 600 million

looks like everything on the internet may not be true after all 

[The Real timschochet 6,774]

37 minutes ago, edjr said:

looks like everything on the internet may not be true after all 

Right, there’s no confirmation to that story, which is now 19 hours old. 
 

As an Angels fan I continue to hold out hope. Stupid I know but until he signs…

[thegeneral 3,214]

5 hours ago, thegeneral said:

I’m picking Dodgers. 

[edjr 6,593]

10 year 700 million

the person who made this thread is wicked smaht

Red Sux could have kept Betts and Boegarts for less  

[seafoam1 3,031]

6 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Right, there’s no confirmation to that story, which is now 19 hours old. 
 

As an Angels fan I continue to hold out hope. Stupid I know but until he signs…

Correct. You are Stupid. 

[Voltaire 5,316]

Well that's a helluva fine and unique athlete. I won't be forgetting how he pitched a complete game one hit shutout against the Tigers in the first game of a doubleheader then hit two HRs in the second this year.

 You knew he was going to follow where the money came from. Hopefully for the Dodgers his pitching returns to form.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

His pitching days are over.  Whoever signs him will regret it.  Way overvalued.

[Mike Hunt 282]

Great player but might be a DH only as pitching days might be over.  Unless the covert him to a closer as his arm can`t handle starting anymore.

Remember the days when most of the Oriental players were slap hitters. Showy changed that.

 

 

[posty 2,700]

31 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said:

Great player but might be a DH only as pitching days might be over.  Unless the covert him to a closer as his arm can`t handle starting anymore.

Remember the days when most of the Oriental players were slap hitters. Showy changed that.

 

 

No he didn’t…. There have been many Japanese players before Ohtani that was not a power hitter…

[edjr 6,593]

48 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

His pitching days are over.  Whoever signs him will regret it.  Way overvalued.

Name a bonafide pitcher that hasnt recovered from Elbow surgery

[posty 2,700]

59 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Well that's a helluva fine and unique athlete. I won't be forgetting how he pitched a complete game one hit shutout against the Tigers in the first game of a doubleheader then hit two HRs in the second this year

Rick Wise was much better…

https://www.mlb.com/news/rick-wise-no-hitter-two-homers-in-1971

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,351]

1 hour ago, Patented Phil said:

His pitching days are over.  Whoever signs him will regret it.  Way overvalued.

yep, you can list the number of successful 2 time TJ pitchers on 2 fingers

Eovaldi and Soria maybe?

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,351]

53 minutes ago, edjr said:

Name a bonafide pitcher that hasnt recovered from Elbow surgery

hes on number 2 though

[Reality 3,121]

So, he's 29 and just had Tommy John for the second time. This should end well.

[edjr 6,593]

16 minutes ago, Reality said:

So, he's 29 and just had Tommy John for the second time. This should end well.

if he was perfectly healthy and never had surgery, it had 0 chance of ending well. he also would not have been paid more

[Voltaire 5,316]

This is the best two-way pitcher/batter since Babe Ruth.  He dominates in both aspects. If the 2nd Tommy John surgery doesn't work out well, the Dodgers are paying for what he did with the Angles, not what he'll do for them. But what he did for the Angles is focking incredible. He's been the best player of our lifetime.

[seafoam1 3,031]

It's fun watching the Dodgers fail.

[jonmx 2,429]

9 hours ago, edjr said:

if he was perfectly healthy and never had surgery, it had 0 chance of ending well. he also would not have been paid more

I would not bet against him.  The guy has the focus and competitiveness of a Tom Brady or Jerry Rice.  He is a freak when it comes to being a perfectionist when it comes to his health and skills.  Will they get 10 years of peak performance, maybe not.  But they will get 5 or 6 years of near MVP level of performance.  If he does not help lead them to a couple of championships, those last couple years will be painful. 

[Reality 3,121]

Ummm, WTF?

 

[edjr 6,593]

3 minutes ago, Reality said:

Ummm, WTF?

 

Puts Bobby Bonilla to shame. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,351]

34 minutes ago, Reality said:

Ummm, WTF?

 

This should not be legal 

[BuckSwope 654]

GTFO with that.    That seems like it would open a whole other can of worms with contracts.  

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,351]

4 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

GTFO with that.    That seems like it would open a whole other can of worms with contracts.  

Yep that’s my thoughts. I’m fine allow the deferment sure. But dodgers should be taxed on 70 mil for the next 10 years and I would argue as well as 68 mil during the following 10. This is not a good thing for baseball 

according to Preller (padres gm) the padres tried to offer judge 400 mil with 200 mil deferred and mlb denied the contract 

[edjr 6,593]

38 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

GTFO with that.    That seems like it would open a whole other can of worms with contracts.  

you must be new. 

The Dodgers have previously signed deferred-payment deals with other superstars on the current roster. Mookie Betts has a deal for 2021-32 that totals $365 million, which includes $115 million in deferred money paid from 2033-2044 plus the final $5 million of his signing bonus payable from 2033-35

[BuckSwope 654]

Oh, its very possible I don't pay too much attention to contracts.  Is that function of following a smaller market team?   I get the deferment part, but I thought "hit" the teams took look deferment or more evenly distributed each year.

[HellToupee 1,780]

Makes a mockery of the competitive balance tax. They will end up with Yamamoto and another high profile pitcher. Makes you sick

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,351]

28 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Oh, its very possible I don't pay too much attention to contracts.  Is that function of following a smaller market team?   I get the deferment part, but I thought "hit" the teams took look deferment or more evenly distributed each year.

That was my thought as well. All 70 should count during the season he’s under contract 

manny got a contract that pays him like 18-22-25 etc etc 10/300 total but each year 30 mil counts towards it so I’m lost here 

[The Real timschochet 6,774]

48 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Makes a mockery of the competitive balance tax. They will end up with Yamamoto and another high profile pitcher. Makes you sick

The tax means something to about half of the owners (including the Angels’ owner Arte Moreno.) It means nothing to the Dodgers or the Yankees or the Blue Jays or Padres or Red Sox. That’s why those teams will always eventually be in contention, while my Angels almost never are. It’s very frustrating. 

[HellToupee 1,780]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

The tax means something to about half of the owners (including the Angels’ owner Arte Moreno.) It means nothing to the Dodgers or the Yankees or the Blue Jays or Padres or Red Sox. That’s why those teams will always eventually be in contention, while my Angels almost never are. It’s very frustrating. 

You’re  wrong about the Red Sox. Post Dombrowski it’s all about staying close to the limit . With Henry, horrible owner, it’s all about Liverpool

[edjr 6,593]

21 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

You’re  wrong about the Red Sox. Post Dombrowski it’s all about staying close to the limit . With Henry, horrible owner, it’s all about Liverpool

Red Sox will never spend big again as long as Dr. Death owns the red sox. 

[thegeneral 3,214]

Shohei’s annual salary more than the payroll for 8 teams

[seafoam1 3,031]

8 hours ago, Reality said:

Ummm, WTF?

 

Smart. 

[Mike Honcho 5,283]

15 hours ago, BuckSwope said:

Oh, its very possible I don't pay too much attention to contracts.  Is that function of following a smaller market team?   I get the deferment part, but I thought "hit" the teams took look deferment or more evenly distributed each year.

 

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Deferment explained

Unlike the NBA, luxury tax funds aren’t dispersed to the rest of the league. In basketball this means that the most cash-strapped clubs directly benefit from the richest going over the cap. However, in MLB the tax funds aren’t distributed to teams, so nobody is effectively losing out on money by the Dodgers doing this.

Instead, the money is put in a fund to pay for player benefits and assist with the “growth of the game,” something the Dodgers would argue they’re already doing by putting Ohtani in a major media market on a team that will make the playoffs and increase exposure for baseball.

 

 

Not sure if this is what you were asking about, but this goes into some detail about the entire thing

[League Champion 1,911]

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