Do you have faith in finding "cures?"

[TheNewGirl 1,489]

Sorry for such a downer topic. 

 

Do you think we will find a cure for things like cancer, Alzheimers, Parkinsons, the common cold? Not talking about things like vaccines or drugs that simply treat these or eliminate symptoms. 

I am talking about full on cures. 

I am watching my mom slowly slip away from Parkinsons and dementia. There have been recent improvements in some medications, but for the most part, I have very little faith that we ever truly cure these diseases (and others, these are the ones that come to mind). 

I think medical advances and funding is being spent in many other places too, and if we do find a cure, it's still very far away, IMO. 

[frank 2,302]

 

[frank 2,302]

 

[TheNewGirl 1,489]

Thanks frank. 

[Fnord 2,259]

16 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Sorry for such a downer topic. 

 

Do you think we will find a cure for things like cancer, Alzheimers, Parkinsons, the common cold? Not talking about things like vaccines or drugs that simply treat these or eliminate symptoms. 

I am talking about full on cures. 

I am watching my mom slowly slip away from Parkinsons and dementia. There have been recent improvements in some medications, but for the most part, I have very little faith that we ever truly cure these diseases (and others, these are the ones that come to mind). 

I think medical advances and funding is being spent in many other places too, and if we do find a cure, it's still very far away, IMO. 

Sorry to hear about your mom, no one should have to go through that.

I do have faith that cures can eventually be found. Where my faith falters is in the delivery of said cures. Regrettably, there would have to be enough money in the cure that it can make more profit than the disease. For-profit healthcare and big pharma are probably the biggest obstacles to a lot of those advances.

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,344]

20 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Sorry for such a downer topic. 

 

Do you think we will find a cure for things like cancer, Alzheimers, Parkinsons, the common cold? Not talking about things like vaccines or drugs that simply treat these or eliminate symptoms. 

I am talking about full on cures. 

I am watching my mom slowly slip away from Parkinsons and dementia. There have been recent improvements in some medications, but for the most part, I have very little faith that we ever truly cure these diseases (and others, these are the ones that come to mind). 

I think medical advances and funding is being spent in many other places too, and if we do find a cure, it's still very far away, IMO. 

Do I have faith. Yes. Cures exist. I believe a vast majority of them lie in psychadelics and cannabinols. However that’s hard for big pharma to grasp so they keep them criminalized 

we’ve been seeing tremendous development in mental health from psilocybin and acid as well as ketamine

[TheNewGirl 1,489]

1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Do I have faith. Yes. Cures exist. I believe a vast majority of them lie in psychadelics and cannabinols. However that’s hard for big pharma to grasp so they keep them criminalized 

we’ve been seeing tremendous development in mental health from psilocybin and acid as well as ketamine

Do these developments actually cure the illness, or just mask symptoms to where they don't exist? 

 

[Strike 5,532]

Generally I do have faith.  I gotta admit, as I get older and my memory isn't nearly as good as it was 20 years ago I worry about things like dementia, memory loss, etc.....Hope they at least make some inroads in that before I get there.  I'm sorry to hear about your Mom.   That must be horrible.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,344]

3 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Do these developments actually cure the illness, or just mask symptoms to where they don't exist? 

 

so psilocybin shows brain regeneration over time, LSD has shown to cure PTSD in as little as one mega trip

psilocybin itself causes brain synapses to even start to re-fire when have previously thought to have been dead, research is very young, I think there are only 100 licensed doctors allowed to practice experimental treatment

the first time I dosed was the best experience I have ever had and have been microdosing ever since and seen and feel much better, although that may be masking symptoms I have no idea, I was suffering from severe depression prior, and am a completely different person now.  I dont like trip or anything or ever feel anything

 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,087]

29 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Sorry for such a downer topic. 

 

Do you think we will find a cure for things like cancer, Alzheimers, Parkinsons, the common cold? Not talking about things like vaccines or drugs that simply treat these or eliminate symptoms. 

I am talking about full on cures. 

I am watching my mom slowly slip away from Parkinsons and dementia. There have been recent improvements in some medications, but for the most part, I have very little faith that we ever truly cure these diseases (and others, these are the ones that come to mind). 

I think medical advances and funding is being spent in many other places too, and if we do find a cure, it's still very far away, IMO. 

Sorry to hear about your mom, TNG.  That's really sad to hear.  I hope for the best for you and your family thru this tough time even though it's not "best" by any standard at all.  Sorry, I'm not good at this stuff.  Maybe "hope for the least amount of pain/stress" is better?

I do believe we will find cures one day, but not in my lifetime, for sure, but one day.  And I agree with you that funding is being misappropriated and used for exorbitant salaries for executives and administrators of all these corporations and/or foundations, or they are more focused on "virtue" causes (i.e. Breast Cancer, which sucks up all the oxygen in the room). 

I mean, most charities alone only donate, what?  5-15% of their actual donations towards their stated cause where the rest are just used for salaries and marketing.  My assumption is that these corps/foundations are the same way.  THAT'S depressing.  So much wasted money.

 

[TheNewGirl 1,489]

16 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

so psilocybin shows brain regeneration over time, LSD has shown to cure PTSD in as little as one mega trip

psilocybin itself causes brain synapses to even start to re-fire when have previously thought to have been dead, research is very young, I think there are only 100 licensed doctors allowed to practice experimental treatment

the first time I dosed was the best experience I have ever had and have been microdosing ever since and seen and feel much better, although that may be masking symptoms I have no idea, I was suffering from severe depression prior, and am a completely different person now.  I dont like trip or anything or ever feel anything

 

This does sound very promising. 

I also have depression, so reading this is good. Thank you for sharing your experience. 

[frank 2,302]

36 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Thanks frank. 

I didn’t actually read the post. Sorry. 

[weepaws 3,191]

Job 5:17-18.  Behold how happy is the man whom God reproved.  So do not despise the discipline of the Almighty.  For He inflicted pain, and gives relief; He wounds, and His hands also heal.  Amen

Psalm 30:2.  O Lord my God, I cried to You for help, and You healed me.  Amen. 

Jeremiah 33:6.  Behold, I will bring to it health and healings, and I will heal them, and I will reveal to them an abundance of peace and Truth.  Amen. 

Yes I know without question that God can heal all things.  

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,344]

24 minutes ago, weepaws said:

Job 5:17-18.  Behold how happy is the man whom God reproved.  So do not despise the discipline of the Almighty.  For He inflicted pain, and gives relief; He wounds, and His hands also heal.  Amen

Psalm 30:2.  O Lord my God, I cried to You for help, and You healed me.  Amen. 

Jeremiah 33:6.  Behold, I will bring to it health and healings, and I will heal them, and I will reveal to them an abundance of peace and Truth.  Amen. 

Yes I know without question that God can heal all things.  

ahh yes pray it away, take the nonsense to the bible thread

 

[TimHauck 2,850]

51 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

ahh yes pray it away, take the nonsense to the bible thread

 

Lol, agree

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Eventually, yes. I expect a lot of this stuff will be cured in the next 20-50 years. Eventually death will be cured. Too late for us though.

But then again, wouldn’t it get old, living forever?

[TommyGavin 790]

2 hours ago, weepaws said:

Job 5:17-18.  Behold how happy is the man whom God reproved.  So do not despise the discipline of the Almighty.  For He inflicted pain, and gives relief; He wounds, and His hands also heal.  Amen

Psalm 30:2.  O Lord my God, I cried to You for help, and You healed me.  Amen. 

Jeremiah 33:6.  Behold, I will bring to it health and healings, and I will heal them, and I will reveal to them an abundance of peace and Truth.  Amen. 

Yes I know without question that God can heal all things.  

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[TommyGavin 790]

Can size ? You not your mom. I’m not a monster. A freak but not a monster 

[squistion 2,194]

24 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Eventually, yes. I expect a lot of this stuff will be cured in the next 20-50 years. Eventually death will be cured. Too late for us though.

But then again, wouldn’t it get old, living forever?

Somehow, I doubt that. 

[jerryskids 6,790]

2 hours ago, Fnord said:

Sorry to hear about your mom, no one should have to go through that.

I do have faith that cures can eventually be found. Where my faith falters is in the delivery of said cures. Regrettably, there would have to be enough money in the cure that it can make more profit than the disease. For-profit healthcare and big pharma are probably the biggest obstacles to a lot of those advances.

 

I worry about this as well, although I try not to be jaded.  My daughter has Type 1 diabetes and I find it, well, let's just say a little surprising that they haven't figured it out and determined a cure.  Lots of money made on insulin, pumps, CGMs, etc.

That being said, the scientist in me thinks that things like T1D and cancer will eventually be cured.  Well, "cancer" is a bit of a catch-all for a lot of different things that cause cells to go rogue in the body, so I doubt there is a single cure.

I'm less confident about things like dementia.  They strike me as associated with inevitable decay.  We may be able to slow it, but eventually it seems it will happen. (sorry TNG, I really don't know anything, just riffing here).

It is an interesting question that someone brought up:  will we ever defeat natural death?  Do we want to?

[weepaws 3,191]

2 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

ahh yes pray it away, take the nonsense to the bible thread

 

Pray it away no, see you pray for God to cure the problem, and that help that the Lord will send will be a person, with the medical help one needs.  

thing is when people who don’t believe in God, pray to Him when they are sick, or having really bad things happening to them, who will be on that list, but the thing is God’s Word says, that God doesn’t hear the prayers of the wicked, I’ll pray that he will hear yours.  

Stop trying so hard to put God in a box, you just end up looking like a fool, fool.  

[weepaws 3,191]

45 minutes ago, TommyGavin said:

Thread rooned 

The moment you open the thread.  

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,344]

Just now, weepaws said:

Pray it away no, see you pray for God to cure the problem, and that help that the Lord will send will be a person, with the medical help one needs.  

thing is when people who don’t believe in God, pray to Him when they are sick, or having really bad things happening to them, who will be on that list, but the thing is God’s Word says, that God doesn’t hear the prayers of the wicked, I’ll pray that he will hear yours.  

Stop trying so hard to put God in a box, you just end up looking like a fool, fool.  

or you can just goto a doctor and skip all that, let me know when you Christians come up with an original thought, and we can talk

 

[jonmx 2,429]

Big Pharma and the FDA have an unhealthy alliance.  They don't want cures, they want power and money.   Our government and our big corporations are turning into everything we fought against in Communism and fascism.  The root of this power is in the massive and unchecked executive branch and their 4 million employees who work for organizations which answer to no one.  And that is a serious structural issue that they have been exploiting for decades and it is coming to a head.  We need to put a stake in the heart of that monster before it is too late. 

[TommyGavin 790]

24 minutes ago, weepaws said:

The moment you open the thread.  

You ruin every time

[weepaws 3,191]

25 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

or you can just goto a doctor and skip all that, let me know when you Christians come up with an original thought, and we can talk

 

Lol another foolish statement from you, they just keep on mounting.  If it was that easy, then way do people keeping dying from these incurable deceases.  Of course it’s that easy lol.  Oh from the mouth of the foolish.  

Matthew 19:26.  Jesus said, with man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible, you go get that Dr that has no was of helping to cure you, I’ll take it to the Almighty God.  

Thanks. 

[weepaws 3,191]

4 minutes ago, TommyGavin said:

You ruin every time

You ruin your parents life when you were born.  

Thanks 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,344]

3 minutes ago, weepaws said:

Lol another foolish statement from you, they just keep on mounting.  If it was that easy, then way do people keeping dying from these incurable deceases.  Of course it’s that easy lol.  Oh from the mouth of the foolish.  

Matthew 19:26.  Jesus said, with man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible, you go get that Dr that has no was of helping to cure you, I’ll take it to the Almighty God.  

Thanks. 

You quoting scripture doesn’t equate to jack. It’s a book. People die. That’s gods cure. 
 

again not a single thing in your man made written book the generate followers has a single original thought or story. The Christians couldn’t even come up with the first half of their own book

[weepaws 3,191]

42 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

You quoting scripture doesn’t equate to jack. It’s a book. People die. That’s gods cure. 
 

again not a single thing in your man made written book the generate followers has a single original thought or story. The Christians couldn’t even come up with the first half of their own book

Another foolish post from you tonight.  Did you find that Dr that can’t cure incurable deceases yet? Pass on their name to everyone. 

See here is what’s going to happen, you find out you have an incurable decease, you go searching for the Dr that can’t cure you, opps then you die, then you’re sitting on the judgement seat, and you are begging for mercy and grace, Jesus is going to look you right into your blood red eyes and say, I never knew you, flush. 

I’ll put my trust in God.  

Thanks.  God bless. 

[weepaws 3,191]

So my answer to the OP, yes we can find the answer to those incurable deceases, If it’s God’s will, I humble oneself and seek God in prayer.  

For what ever it’s worth, I’m sorry about your mom, and I’ll be praying for her, God will know who I’m praying for.  

God bless your mom.  

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,344]

7 minutes ago, weepaws said:

Another foolish post from you tonight.  Did you find that Dr that can’t cure incurable deceases yet? Pass on their name to everyone. 

See here is what’s going to happen, you find out you have an incurable decease, you go searching for the Dr that can’t cure you, opps then you die, then you’re sitting on the judgement seat, and you are begging for mercy and grace, Jesus is going to look you right into your blood red eyes and say, I never knew you, flush. 

I’ll put my trust in God.  

Thanks.  God bless. 

There is no judgement seat. Hope that helps. Believe whatever garbage you want I don’t care. Nobody does. But don’t come into a thread where she is asking about her moms condition with this god cures nonsense. It adds nothing. Nobody has ever prayed away Alzheimer’s or dimentia

and Jesus as least if you’re gonna spout nonsense get your own story right. Jesus isnt. the one who judges. And fyi. God gave us free will. Remember that one?  And part of that free will is the very ability to doubt his existence.  But keep reading your book. It helps you so be it. Again let me know what part of the Bible is original 

[SUXBNME 1,499]

Frank beat me to it , but poasted the wrong vid. 
 

 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

2 hours ago, jonmx said:

Big Pharma and the FDA have an unhealthy alliance.  They don't want cures, they want power and money.   Our government and our big corporations are turning into everything we fought against in Communism and fascism.  The root of this power is in the massive and unchecked executive branch and their 4 million employees who work for organizations which answer to no one.  And that is a serious structural issue that they have been exploiting for decades and it is coming to a head.  We need to put a stake in the heart of that monster before it is too late. 

Everything is a conspiracy with you people 

[TommyGavin 790]

2 hours ago, weepaws said:

You ruin your parents life when you were born.  

Thanks 

This makes no sense you fake preacher POS poster. I will continue to expose you as a fake. 

[TommyGavin 790]

And fake preacher man highjacked this here thread. Sorry to hear TNG. It is tough to see. Good Luck 

[seafoam1 3,014]

4 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Eventually, yes. I expect a lot of this stuff will be cured in the next 20-50 years. Eventually death will be cured. Too late for us though.

But then again, wouldn’t it get old, living forever?

I imagine for your life, yeah. 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

4 hours ago, TommyGavin said:

This makes no sense you fake preacher POS poster. I will continue to expose you as a fake. 

We need a cure for weepaws.  I'm summoning Satan himself to render his fingers into cloven hooves so he can't post anymore.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,401]

Prevagin! 

[Hawkeye21 2,398]

9 hours ago, weepaws said:

You ruin your parents life when you were born.  

Thanks 

Hypocrite 

[Hawkeye21 2,398]

14 hours ago, TheNewGirl said:

Sorry for such a downer topic. 

 

Do you think we will find a cure for things like cancer, Alzheimers, Parkinsons, the common cold? Not talking about things like vaccines or drugs that simply treat these or eliminate symptoms. 

I am talking about full on cures. 

I am watching my mom slowly slip away from Parkinsons and dementia. There have been recent improvements in some medications, but for the most part, I have very little faith that we ever truly cure these diseases (and others, these are the ones that come to mind). 

I think medical advances and funding is being spent in many other places too, and if we do find a cure, it's still very far away, IMO. 

I do believe we will have real cures but I don't trust big pharma.  The drug industry is so huge and it's hard to imagine that they actually have the general public in their best interest.  Maybe it's a conspiracy but it seems pretty obvious to me.