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New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud

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It’s NY so I know it’s a big nothing burger. Democrats are trying to do whatever they can to keep him from running again. It’s not only pathetic but election interference. They should be jailed and fined for this. I’m seriously planning a run for presidency and one of the things I’ll do is punish every single politician on both sides for treason, dereliction of duty, fraud, embezzlement, etc 

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Just now, KSB2424 said:

Did the banks sue or something?  Who was defrauded?  i.e. who was the victim?

I believe the lenders are claimed to be the ones defrauded.

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7 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I believe the lenders are claimed to be the ones defrauded.

I just looked it up.  Nope, the lenders are perfectly happy.  This was a “civil suit” brought up solely by that NY D.A.

ergo, nobody is suing Trump, the lenders aren’t claiming any fraud.  There is no victim. This is a District Attorney who RAN her election saying she would “get” Donald Trump.  

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5 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I believe the lenders are claimed to be the ones defrauded.

Don't they get more money back, via interest paid on larger loans, for inflated appraisals?

This all seems a bit absurd. Don't loan money if you didn't do property due diligence.

1 minute ago, KSB2424 said:

I just looked it up.  Nope, the lenders are perfectly happy.  This was a “civil suit” brought up solely by that NY D.A.

That's figures, what a joke.

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3 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

I just looked it up.  Nope, the lenders are perfectly happy.  This was a “civil suit” brought up solely by that NY D.A.

ergo, nobody is suing Trump, the lenders aren’t claiming any fraud.  There is no victim. This is a District Attorney who RAN her election saying she would “get” Donald Trump.  

I didn't say the lenders had anything to do with it.  If anyone was to be defrauded I would think it would be the lenders since they gave out the loan based on what Trump told them.  The D.A. can say whoever ever they want was defrauded, doesn't mean they are correct though.

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13 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

I just looked it up.  Nope, the lenders are perfectly happy.  This was a “civil suit” brought up solely by that NY D.A.

ergo, nobody is suing Trump, the lenders aren’t claiming any fraud.  There is no victim. This is a District Attorney who RAN her election saying she would “get” Donald Trump.  

So you think fraud is legal, if those harmed don't bring the suit? 

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24 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

So you think fraud is legal, if those harmed don't bring the suit? 

They weren't harmed.  They didn't even know about this alleged valuation inflation.

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2 minutes ago, Strike said:

They weren't harmed.  They didn't even know about this alleged valuation inflation.

I don't actually see this as too big of a deal and think the judge has gone too far but just because no one was harmed, does it negate it being illegal?

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1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I don't actually see this as too big of a deal and think the judge has gone too far but just because no one was harmed, does it negate it being illegal?

I'm with all the people here who have pointed out that the banks would or should have done their due diligence.  I couldn't get a 200k mortgage from a bank without an independent appraisal.  Do you think these banks took Trump's word for 100s of millions?

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7 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

Not even the dumbest sh!tlib here believes Mar-a-Largo is worth south of several hundreds of millions of dollars. 

I could see Squid thinking that.

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1 minute ago, Strike said:

I'm with all the people here who have pointed out that the banks would or should have done their due diligence.  I couldn't get a 200k mortgage from a bank without an independent appraisal.  Do you think these banks took Trump's word for 100s of millions?

It’s mind blowing stupid 

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3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

There is no history of Republican candidates before Trump facing legal jeopardy. 

Exactly. All clean. Lol. 

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29 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

Not even the dumbest sh!tlib here believes Mar-a-Largo is worth south of several hundreds of millions of dollars. 

Hawkeye doesn’t know. 

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1 hour ago, Stryker Ryker said:

It’s NY so I know it’s a big nothing burger. Democrats are trying to do whatever they can to keep him from running again. It’s not only pathetic but election interference. They should be jailed and fined for this. I’m seriously planning a run for presidency and one of the things I’ll do is punish every single politician on both sides for treason, dereliction of duty, fraud, embezzlement, etc 

This right here is the problem with conspiracy theories. Do you see how it makes all discussion pointless? If the news media, and all the judges, and everyone critical of Donald Trump are all in the pay of the Democrats then we might as well reject everything we hear and see, Which, apparently, many of you do. 

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17 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Point out in that post where I referred to Trump.

As for labeling him a fascist, I've repeatedly listed the indicators of that and that his approach is frighteningly similar to Hitler's. 

 

 

 

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17 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Point out in that post where I referred to Trump.

As for labeling him a fascist, I've repeatedly listed the indicators of that and that his approach is frighteningly similar to Hitler's. 

 

 

 

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17 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Point out in that post where I referred to Trump.

As for labeling him a fascist, I've repeatedly listed the indicators of that and that his approach is frighteningly similar to Hitler's. 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, KSB2424 said:

I just looked it up.  Nope, the lenders are perfectly happy.  This was a “civil suit” brought up solely by that NY D.A.

ergo, nobody is suing Trump, the lenders aren’t claiming any fraud.  There is no victim. This is a District Attorney who RAN her election saying she would “get” Donald Trump.  

What were the damages to the state?  Taxes?   Seems like more of a federal issue.   The punishment far exceeds any alledged damage.  The authoritarian bastards on the left are dancing, because they love an abusive government as long as it is the subhuman deplorables on the other side.   The country no longer has a soul.

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18 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Point out in that post where I referred to Trump.

As for labeling him a fascist, I've repeatedly listed the indicators of that and that his approach is frighteningly similar to Hitler's. 

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I don't know.  I do know that a professional assessor valued it far less than what Trump valued it at for some reason.

Here’s Hawkeye saying he doesn’t know. Now say you’re sorry. 

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7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Here’s Hawkeye saying he doesn’t know. Now say you’re sorry. 

Say sorry for what?  It's assessed value is around $300 million, which I've already said.  Trump said it's value is over $600 million.

You have issues.

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13 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Say sorry for what?  It's assessed value is around $300 million, which I've already said.  Trump said it's value is over $600 million.

You have issues.

I said you didn’t know. You said I made it up. I showed you saying you didn’t know. An apology is in order. 

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39 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Say sorry for what?  It's assessed value is around $300 million, which I've already said.  Trump said it's value is over $600 million.

You have issues.

We have a pattern developing here.  Everyone else is nuts except for you, especially when bringing your stupid comments up to you.  You're at least 0-2 today.

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Striking auto workers are greedy but a billionaire committing business fraud to get more favorable lending rates is a-okay.

MAGA :( 

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1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I said you didn’t know. You said I made it up. I showed you saying you didn’t know. An apology is in order. 

I literally said it was worth more than $300 million after that post.

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56 minutes ago, Casual Observer said:

We have a pattern developing here.  Everyone else is nuts except for you, especially when bringing your stupid comments up to you.  You're at least 0-2 today.

I didn’t call anyone nuts.  It’s all laid out here, no edits. Everything I talked about here was from articles available to everyone. Nothing made up. 

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40 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I literally said it was worth more than $300 million after that post.

So no apology? 

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1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

If that’s what you need then sure. I apologize. 

Thank you. 

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Just now, IGotWorms said:

So ghey

Stay out of it, bigot. 

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