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26 minutes ago, League Champion said:

Do we really want these people on the planet? For what?

 

 

It's just a different culture; we can easily co-exist, right?  

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1 hour ago, League Champion said:

 

Awesome. Sums it up perfectly.  

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Gaza completely cut off from internet a cell service.  Ground forces advancing.  

:overhead:

Let's wipe these towelheads off the planet.   

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5 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

Gaza completely cut off from internet a cell service.  Ground forces advancing.  

:overhead:

Let's wipe these towelheads off the planet.   

The Jews are coming! The Jews are coming! 

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The bombardment also knocked out communications in Gaza, creating a near-blackout of information from the besieged enclave and largely cutting off the territory’s 2.3 million people from the outside world

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2 hours ago, League Champion said:

The bombardment also knocked out communications in Gaza, creating a near-blackout of information from the besieged enclave and largely cutting off the territory’s 2.3 million people from the outside world

When you're genociding a people you don't want video of it.

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23 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I didn’t say he was weak for bombing Syria. I said his weakness invites these attacks. I clearly said the bombings are justified.  Every day you say something dumber than the day before. You’re the Joe DiMaggio of the geek club.  

Joe DiMaggio? The superstar who won a championship damn near each year, put his baseball career on hold to join the Army the day after Pearl Harbor, married Marilyn Monroe, and served as pitchman for Mr. Coffee? 

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2 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Joe DiMaggio? The superstar who won a championship damn near each year, put his baseball career on hold to join the Army the day after Pearl Harbor, married Marilyn Monroe, and served as pitchman for Mr. Coffee? 

Where has he gone? A nation turns its lonely eyes to him….

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1 hour ago, Voltaire said:

Joe DiMaggio? The superstar who won a championship damn near each year, put his baseball career on hold to join the Army the day after Pearl Harbor, married Marilyn Monroe, and served as pitchman for Mr. Coffee? 

Starring Kelce and Taylor.

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3,000 Palestinian children are dead. 
 

Much of the responsibility is with Hamas. They continue to have their headquarters in civilian areas, at hospitals and schools. They care little about the people they claim to be fighting for. They are evil scum. 
 

Even so, for me this is too high a price to pay for Israel to get its vengeance (using Netanyahu’s words.) I couldn’t do it. I can’t approve of it. 

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11 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

3,000 Palestinian children are dead. 
 

Much of the responsibility is with Hamas. They continue to have their headquarters in civilian areas, at hospitals and schools. They care little about the people they claim to be fighting for. They are evil scum. 
 

Even so, for me this is too high a price to pay for Israel to get its vengeance (using Netanyahu’s words.) I couldn’t do it. I can’t approve of it. 

Israel will go ahead with their stated goal of ending political and military capabilities of Hamas. It is a war.

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19 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

3,000 Palestinian children are dead. 
 

Much of the responsibility is with Hamas. They continue to have their headquarters in civilian areas, at hospitals and schools. They care little about the people they claim to be fighting for. They are evil scum. 
 

Even so, for me this is too high a price to pay for Israel to get its vengeance (using Netanyahu’s words.) I couldn’t do it. I can’t approve of it. 

Doubtful. 

 

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23 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

3,000 Palestinian children are dead. 
 

Much of the responsibility is with Hamas. They continue to have their headquarters in civilian areas, at hospitals and schools. They care little about the people they claim to be fighting for. They are evil scum. 
 

Even so, for me this is too high a price to pay for Israel to get its vengeance (using Netanyahu’s words.) I couldn’t do it. I can’t approve of it. 

If you believe shìt Hamas says, you're an idiot. 

3000 children dead.  Give me a break.

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1 hour ago, League Champion said:

Thanks Dems

 

 

The Black Hebrew Israelites are the guys that taunted the Covington Catholic kids. The Palestinians endorse Hamas... bad vs bad... whatever... 🍿

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10 minutes ago, nobody said:

If you believe shìt Hamas says, you're an idiot. 

3000 children dead.  Give me a break.

That’s not Hamas. I consistently hear that number on American media. Hamas has reported a much higher number.
 

But truth be told, whether it’s actually 800 or 4000 doesn’t make much difference in how I feel about it. 

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9 minutes ago, nobody said:

If you believe shìt Hamas says, you're an idiot. 

3000 children dead.  Give me a break.

It's been well known for a long time that Hamas lies

Yet the media, and the idiots who believe what they read, continue to push the narrative. 

"Hamas lies systematically, instructing civilians to misinform the foreign press. It lies habitually, with a formidable record of mendacity from previous conflicts. And it lies guiltlessly, convinced that the objectives of ‘resistance’ supersede quaint notions of truth-telling."

 

Nonetheless, since Israel launched Operation Protective Edge over a month ago, Western media have relied on Gaza’s Hamas-run Health Ministry – as here, here and here – for casualty tallies. As one reporter told the Washington Post, when it comes to body counts, the Hamas Health Minister Ashraf Al-Qidra is "the only game in town." 

For his part, Qidra has acknowledged that he considers any fatality who has not been claimed by an armed group as a civilian. And for its part, the Hamas leadership almost never admits its operatives have been killed – and instructs Gazans to do the same. Consequently, Qidra’s running total labels three-quarters of Gaza deaths as civilians.

The result has been thundering condemnation of Israel for “indiscriminate” bombing (according to the United Nations Human Rights Council), and even targeting civilians deliberately (as per The Guardian). “The world stands disgraced,” bellowed the head of the U.N. Relief and Works Agency on July 30, in words run by The Guardian in a banner front-page headline the next day. Human Rights Watch charged Israel with "collective punishment," and even the United States – the Jewish state’s closest friend – lamented, "Israel has to do a better job to avoid civilian loss of life."

 

 

That was from 2014. And the same rubes keep falling for the same buIIshit. 

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12 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

That’s not Hamas. I consistently hear that number on American media. Hamas has reported a much higher number.
 

But truth be told, whether it’s actually 800 or 4000 doesn’t make much difference in how I feel about it. 

And where does media get the number?  Use your head.

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Let’s Recap.

1.  On October 7th 2023 Hamas the elected leaders of Palestine conducted an air and land assault on Israel.  Not on its army but on its citizens.  Paragliding into a music festival and just killing people.  Others going door to door in neighborhoods and killing families, burning people alive.  Parading raped and bloodied women in the streets.  Over 1,400 confirmed dead.  

2.  The response has been to bomb Hamas in Gaza where the intelligence says there are munitions and Hamas leadership.  Consequentially innocent people have died. Hamas hides behind civilians just for that reason. 

3.  Now the ground offensive begins as Israel enters Gaza on land to root out Hamas soldiers, leaders and munitions.  
 

I am 100% behind all that has happened thus far.  IF it’s confirmed Israel on their ground assault is targeting Palestine Civilians and not Hamas soldiers and leaders then I will change my tune. But not until then.  
 

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1 hour ago, nobody said:

If you believe shìt Hamas says, you're an idiot. 

3000 children dead.  Give me a break.

I wouldn’t take Hamas’ word for it, but you see the destroyed apartment buildings and so forth from all the Israeli strikes.

Can’t tell me there isn’t some significant collateral damage there.

I don’t know what the answer is but definitely, yes, kids are dying there

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37 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

Let’s Recap.

1.  On October 7th 2023 Hamas the elected leaders of Palestine conducted an air and land assault on Israel.  Not on its army but on its citizens.  Paragliding into a music festival and just killing people.  Others going door to door in neighborhoods and killing families, burning people alive.  Parading raped and bloodied women in the streets.  Over 1,400 confirmed dead.  

2.  The response has been to bomb Hamas in Gaza where the intelligence says there are munitions and Hamas leadership.  Consequentially innocent people have died. Hamas hides behind civilians just for that reason. 

3.  Now the ground offensive begins as Israel enters Gaza on land to root out Hamas soldiers, leaders and munitions.  
 

I am 100% behind all that has happened thus far.  IF it’s confirmed Israel on their ground assault is targeting Palestine Civilians and not Hamas soldiers and leaders then I will change my tune. But not until then.  
 

I don’t disagree with any of your first 3 points except you should stop with the elected stuff. Hamas was “elected” nearly 20 years ago and since then they’ve been a dictatorship. All opposition is assassinated. There is no question that they are popular there but we don’t know HOW popular. 

The rest of your facts are correct, I believe. As regards your conclusion I don’t believe that Israel is targeting civilians. Only the most leftists and Israel haters believe that. Even so civilians are dying and my position is that these actions by Israel will not make them any safer. I don’t believe they will be successful in rooting out Hamas because it’s as much an ideology as an organization. So all this will lead to is dead Palestinians and a lot of pain and agony and a city  of 2 million that remains ungovernable and a permanent threat to the Israeli state. So I don’t see any advantage here. 

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I don't doubt some unknown number of children have died.  3000 kids a joke though and dumb.

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