Antisemites riot for DNC

[The Real timschochet 6,428]

1 hour ago, IGotWorms said:

Cmon pal, if you’re lgbtq and you think Palestine is your friend, you’re just stupid. That is a fact.

I don’t think they’re really considering it one way or another. Rather, they view Palestinians as a downtrodden minority, persecuted by the world much as they have been, so they’re sympathetic. It’s a simplistic POV but not necessarily stupid. It’s when they move on from the plight of the Palestinian people to support of Hamas that the nonsensical part begins. 

[TheNewGirl 1,347]

28 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

One of the greatest ironies of your nativist position is this: whether it’s immigrants from Latin America, or the Middle East, or Africa, these folks once they get here are mostly conservative! The only reason many of them vote Democrat, for now, is that they sense your antipathy to their presence. If you ever remove that you will have solid conservative majorities on most issues. (I recognize this and yet I still welcome them.) 

Nah. 

I think it's once they realize they can get free shiiiite and not work...lots of social services for those that can't support themselves when they get here. They can drive, do all kinds of things without actually becoming a citizen. 

[DonS 3,292]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

Are you wordsmithing with words like "everyone," which he didn't say?

Obviously there are gay folks there; there are gay folks everywhere.

Darn near all of the Palestinians object to homosexuality though.

https://www.equaldex.com/region/palestine

 

I was (bi)curious to see what regions were rated worse since the quote for the link said Palestine was 119 out of 124.

Clicking on the "124 region" link shows a table that actually lists Palestine at 122.  Apparently Lebanon and Armenia are the regions ranked lower.

The more you know

Edit: these "Queers for Palestine" should go over there and donate blood for all those poor injured "freedom fighters".  Oh wait, they can't since that's illegal. 

 

[The Real timschochet 6,428]

1 minute ago, TheNewGirl said:

Nah. 

I think it's once they realize they can get free shiiiite and not work...lots of social services for those that can't support themselves when they get here. They can drive, do all kinds of things without actually becoming a citizen. 

This is a common conservative belief and I really think you’re wrong as you could be. Immigrants do not come here for government services. They do not vote Democrat for government services. 

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2 hours ago, tubby_mcgee said:

I'd say generally, the smartest people don't make claims of being smart.  They don't need to.  Kinda the same way as truly wealthy people don't yak about their wealth. Well, other than Floyd Mayweather and those types of folks. 

I was referring to leftist geeks who claim to be highly educated yet are the most duped 

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

1 hour ago, u.k. said:

So there are no gay folks in Palestine?  Everyone in Palestine wants to murder gay folks?

There is no Palestine dummy

[tubby_mcgee 700]

Just now, Dizkneelande said:

I was referring to leftist geeks who claim to be highly educated yet are the most duped 

Lefties are easily duped, of course. Just like sheep are easily duped.

Amish being referred to as "hard workers" isn't implied/a saying because they aren't.  That became "a saying" for a reason. 

Most sayings become sayings because they are fact.

There's a reason why the term "liberal sheep" is common saying/term. 

[TheNewGirl 1,347]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

This is a common conservative belief and I really think you’re wrong as you could be. Immigrants do not come here for government services. They do not vote Democrat for government services. 

They why do they vote democrat? Just to spite Republicans like you said? 

 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

18 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I don’t think they’re really considering it one way or another. Rather, they view Palestinians as a downtrodden minority, persecuted by the world much as they have been, so they’re sympathetic. It’s a simplistic POV but not necessarily stupid. It’s when they move on from the plight of the Palestinian people to support of Hamas that the nonsensical part begins. 

Well when that particular downtrodden minority would gleefully stone you to death in the streets, it may not be smart to align yourselves with them 

[RLLD 4,143]

So.....these people, these rioters.....

They, had Democrats hiding in their offices....they were violent....they injured capital police officers....lawmakers had to escape in some cases..... 

Hey, isnt there like a description of this, it sounds familiar....

[Tree of Knowledge 1,702]

Lay down with dogs, wake up with fleas. 

[KSB2424 3,148]

The Compare / Contrast is amazing.  
 

http://x.com/aghamilton29/status/1724972587061592547?s=46&t=r0y3bJ1CDXchoYAztDxmqw

 

 

[tubby_mcgee 700]

9 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

One of the greatest ironies of your nativist position is this: whether it’s immigrants from Latin America, or the Middle East, or Africa, these folks once they get here are mostly conservative! The only reason many of them vote Democrat, for now, is that they sense your antipathy to their presence. If you ever remove that you will have solid conservative majorities on most issues. (I recognize this and yet I still welcome them.) 

Immigrants absolutely vote democrat.  2 biggest reasons:

1.) Democrats want them here. Immigrants see Democrats as the reason they are here.  The other side of the coin is that Democrats see immigrants as nothing more than votes.  Votes.  That's it.  That's what they are. 

2.) Immigrants like free stuff.

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6 hours ago, RLLD said:

So.....these people, these rioters.....

They, had Democrats hiding in their offices....they were violent....they injured capital police officers....lawmakers had to escape in some cases..... 

Hey, isnt there like a description of this, it sounds familiar....

Yeah, but see, what you're not understanding, is that it's different.  Ya see...it's different because, well it just is.  Can't you see that?  Jeez. What's wrong with you?

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9 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

I don’t think they’re really considering it one way or another. Rather, they view Palestinians as a downtrodden minority, persecuted by the world much as they have been, so they’re sympathetic. It’s a simplistic POV but not necessarily stupid. It’s when they move on from the plight of the Palestinian people to support of Hamas that the nonsensical part begins. 

It's part of the Marxist lens to view things as oppressed and oppressors.  

[Mark Davis 339]

7 hours ago, RLLD said:

So.....these people, these rioters.....

They, had Democrats hiding in their offices....they were violent....they injured capital police officers....lawmakers had to escape in some cases..... 

Hey, isnt there like a description of this, it sounds familiar....

If only we could count on some sentences like happened to others for injuring the Capitol Police.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,937]

If you had the under for the arrests made for that riot you won. They got a guy. One guy. 

[The Real timschochet 6,428]

10 hours ago, TheNewGirl said:

They why do they vote democrat? Just to spite Republicans like you said? 

 

The only reason that new immigrants tend to vote Democrat is because they believe, with good reason, that Republicans have become nativist and anti-immigrant. 
 

That’s mainly it. If you removed nativism from the equation, if you returned to the party of Ronald Reagan who was welcoming of immigrants, I’m convinced Republicans would have a permanent majority. 

[The Real timschochet 6,428]

There will be more arrests after the police have had time to review the film and identify those who caused violence. That’s the way it worked after 1/6 and that’s the way it will work here. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,838]

8 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

There will be more arrests after the police have had time to review the film and identify those who caused violence. That’s the way it worked after 1/6 and that’s the way it will work here. 

You better hope so.

I'm looking forward to all the 1/6 OMG!  TRUMP! zealots sticking to their principles.  We know they won't because that's what zealots do, but we can at least hope.

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20 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

I don’t think they’re really considering it one way or another. Rather, they view Palestinians as a downtrodden minority, persecuted by the world much as they have been, so they’re sympathetic. It’s a simplistic POV but not necessarily stupid. It’s when they move on from the plight of the Palestinian people to support of Hamas that the nonsensical part begins. 

Come on, you know dam well half of these people did not even know where Gaza was 2 months ago. Same with the George Floyd rioters, they did not give a dam about Floyd.

And where have they been the last 2 years as Russia who invaded a country, murders civilians and pummels Ukraine with shells and missiles every day?  Why is Russia getting away with zero protests as they have killed and displaced hundreds of thousands of people and families?

[Mike Hunt 261]

9 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

The only reason that new immigrants tend to vote Democrat is because they believe, with good reason, that Republicans have become nativist and anti-immigrant. 
 

That’s mainly it. If you removed nativism from the equation, if you returned to the party of Ronald Reagan who was welcoming of immigrants, I’m convinced Republicans would have a permanent majority. 

Republicans are not anti-immigrant. All I read is that they want to enforce the "Federal Laws" that are in place. Just because some people don`t like a law and there are many I don`t like does not mean we change the law.

Reagan welcomed people who followed immigration guidelines like we all should.

I am convinced if the Dems demanded a strong border with border security they would have permanent majority. 

[RLLD 4,143]

10 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

The only reason that new immigrants tend to vote Democrat is because they believe, with good reason, that Republicans have become nativist and anti-immigrant. 
 

That’s mainly it. If you removed nativism from the equation, if you returned to the party of Ronald Reagan who was welcoming of immigrants, I’m convinced Republicans would have a permanent majority. 

This logic.....this is where I bristle with the liberal approach to "thinking".  The immediate move to assert motive in this manner is entirely counter-productive.  If this were turned around on some position YOU held, you would be justifiably indignant.  It's just not the way we should operate as a society. 

Republicans are not anti-immigrant, but they do acknowledge the dangers and consequences of allowing uncontrolled immigration as has been done.  I know there is is notion of empathy to those emigrating, but this is at the expense of our citizens own well-being.  Elevating the empathy toward immigrants over our own folks is not how this should be done. This is not "anti-immigrant" this is how a reasoned and compassionate people should approach the needs of their own citizens as a priority.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,937]

These rioters, same ones that were rioting in 2020 during the Democratic Party sanctioned riots, got their way last time. They think they will this time too. 

[The Real timschochet 6,428]

1 hour ago, RLLD said:

This logic.....this is where I bristle with the liberal approach to "thinking".  The immediate move to assert motive in this manner is entirely counter-productive.  If this were turned around on some position YOU held, you would be justifiably indignant.  It's just not the way we should operate as a society. 

Republicans are not anti-immigrant, but they do acknowledge the dangers and consequences of allowing uncontrolled immigration as has been done.  I know there is is notion of empathy to those emigrating, but this is at the expense of our citizens own well-being.  Elevating the empathy toward immigrants over our own folks is not how this should be done. This is not "anti-immigrant" this is how a reasoned and compassionate people should approach the needs of their own citizens as a priority.

What you described in your second paragraph represents traditional conservative thinking on this issue, as exemplified by Nikki Haley and a few other politicians. I disagree with this viewpoint but respect it. 

However that is NOT the viewpoint of the MAGA movement which has taken over the Republican Party. That movement is anti-immigrant, period. Its leader is talking about racial purity, poisoning the bloodstream of Americans, amd proposing mass deportations. You are deluding yourself by pretending that the views you have stated are guiding your party these days. 

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3 hours ago, Mike Hunt said:

Come on, you know dam well half of these people did not even know where Gaza was 2 months ago. Same with the George Floyd rioters, they did not give a dam about Floyd.

And where have they been the last 2 years as Russia who invaded a country, murders civilians and pummels Ukraine with shells and missiles every day?  Why is Russia getting away with zero protests as they have killed and displaced hundreds of thousands of people and families?

Both Ukraine and Russia are too white.  No side for Libs to get enthusiastic for.

[iam90sbaby 2,489]

12 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

The only reason that new immigrants tend to vote Democrat is because they believe, with good reason, that Republicans have become nativist and anti-immigrant. 
 

That’s mainly it. If you removed nativism from the equation, if you returned to the party of Ronald Reagan who was welcoming of immigrants, I’m convinced Republicans would have a permanent majority. 

Nah, they're stupid and want free sh!t. 

[iam90sbaby 2,489]

2 hours ago, RLLD said:

This logic.....this is where I bristle with the liberal approach to "thinking".  The immediate move to assert motive in this manner is entirely counter-productive.  If this were turned around on some position YOU held, you would be justifiably indignant.  It's just not the way we should operate as a society. 

Republicans are not anti-immigrant, but they do acknowledge the dangers and consequences of allowing uncontrolled immigration as has been done.  I know there is is notion of empathy to those emigrating, but this is at the expense of our citizens own well-being.  Elevating the empathy toward immigrants over our own folks is not how this should be done. This is not "anti-immigrant" this is how a reasoned and compassionate people should approach the needs of their own citizens as a priority.

A majority of Republicans are anti-immigrant or at least want heavy restrictions on immigration, most are too big of pu$$ies to admit it. Or they're from California, which doesn't count.

You for example turn a blind eye to all the degeneracy, you're not a Republican or conservative.  

[Hardcore troubadour 14,937]

We’re full. These people need to go home and maybe they can come back if we need them and they can support themselves. Or maybe they will go back home and have a revolution and build a more perfect union. Like some other guys did. 

[Mike Hunt 261]

12 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Both Ukraine and Russia are too white.  No side for Libs to get enthusiastic for.

True

[jerryskids 6,567]

16 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Both Ukraine and Russia are too white.  No side for Libs to get enthusiastic for.

That's a great point.   

[The Real timschochet 6,428]

14 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

We’re full. These people need to go home 

hey @RLLD I submit to you that this truly represents the current GOP and not what you wrote. 

[RLLD 4,143]

5 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

What you described in your second paragraph represents traditional conservative thinking on this issue, as exemplified by Nikki Haley and a few other politicians. I disagree with this viewpoint but respect it. 

However that is NOT the viewpoint of the MAGA movement which has taken over the Republican Party. That movement is anti-immigrant, period. Its leader is talking about racial purity, poisoning the bloodstream of Americans, amd proposing mass deportations. You are deluding yourself by pretending that the views you have stated are guiding your party these days. 

We can agree to disagree on this "MAGA" assertion. It is not different at all, though I do understand the lies propogated by Democrats and their propogandists in the media like to use this. 

I would encourage you to pause before believing any of them, and not digest any of it as simple truth.  MAGA is little more than empowering the middle and lower classes back to their status of prominence. But this is anathema to Democrats. 

[RLLD 4,143]

5 hours ago, iam90sbaby said:

A majority of Republicans are anti-immigrant or at least want heavy restrictions on immigration, most are too big of pu$$ies to admit it. Or they're from California, which doesn't count.

You for example turn a blind eye to all the degeneracy, you're not a Republican or conservative.  

Not exactly.  What they object to is the mass importation of people with no place for them to go or jobs for them to fill.  We simply must control immigration.  What arises is that ANY attempt to control it is paraded as "anti immigrant" or "racist" so as to impugn any opposition to unfettered immigration. 

There is nothing wrong with a controlled border. 

[RLLD 4,143]

5 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

hey @RLLD I submit to you that this truly represents the current GOP and not what you wrote. 

So then, by your example I can therefore use the words of Talib to paint the Democrats as anti-semites..... of course not, that would be immature and illogical.....

So lets not do this....

[iam90sbaby 2,489]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Not exactly.  What they object to is the mass importation of people with no place for them to go or jobs for them to fill.  We simply must control immigration.  What arises is that ANY attempt to control it is paraded as "anti immigrant" or "racist" so as to impugn any opposition to unfettered immigration. 

There is nothing wrong with a controlled border. 

You have no idea.  Visit the east coast. 

[RLLD 4,143]

2 hours ago, iam90sbaby said:

You have no idea.  Visit the east coast. 

Since I am from the east coast that will not be a problem 

[The Real timschochet 6,428]

4 hours ago, RLLD said:

So then, by your example I can therefore use the words of Talib to paint the Democrats as anti-semites..... of course not, that would be immature and illogical.....

So lets not do this....

If Talib were the lead Democratic candidate for President and blowing all the other Democrats away, then I think a legitimate case could be made that the vast majority of Democrats either agreed with her or at least were OK with it, 

And that’s the problem you’ve got: The guy making extreme comments on your side isn’t some random congressperson or even a Senator. It’s the leader of your party. I don’t see how you can deny that his views on this issue do not represent your party. 

[TimHauck 2,620]

On 11/16/2023 at 10:56 AM, listen2me 23 said:

Many may obey the law and work.  

Most also hate the gays and trans.  Thats quite clear.  

So kinda like many Republicans?

[RLLD 4,143]

10 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

If Talib were the lead Democratic candidate for President and blowing all the other Democrats away, then I think a legitimate case could be made that the vast majority of Democrats either agreed with her or at least were OK with it, 

And that’s the problem you’ve got: The guy making extreme comments on your side isn’t some random congressperson or even a Senator. It’s the leader of your party. I don’t see how you can deny that his views on this issue do not represent your party. 

OK, then by your logic you have just refuted your own assertion since HT is not leading anyone......

And that is the problem you have, liberal ideology will make these sweeping assertions based on correlation.  Trump says something that some other idiot said...well then Trump is a racist and Republicans are anti-immigration.....

This simply must stop..... just because someone objects to something YOU believe does not make them evil.....