RLLD 4,230 Posted January 11, 2024 2 minutes ago, BuckSwope said: 100% there is a bit of this, but also there is a healthy dose of wanting to have his name on everything and be constantly praised. I think this impulse is what we are seeing here. A smarter politician would just be able to STFU, realizing that this is an issue that will get people out to vote against him. Sleepy Joe is DOA in 2024, Trump just needs to stay out of jail and his own way. It seems he is incapable of that 2nd one. Yeah, I mostly agree with your position on these things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,194 Posted January 11, 2024 46 minutes ago, Nomad99 said: And that's the problem. Abortion shouldn't be considered one of the top 3 major issues this country faces right now......but yeah that's the thought process. Issues need to be prioritized but when you can't see the woods through the trees....... Many major issue need to be address, but both sides are focus on votes, not fixing problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted January 11, 2024 42 minutes ago, Nomad99 said: And that's the problem. Abortion shouldn't be considered one of the top 3 major issues this country faces right now......but yeah that's the thought process. Issues need to be prioritized but when you can't see the woods through the trees....... I love when posters here try to tell others what the 3 major issues should be for them. Reality is, it very much is an issue that gets the people out and the last few years have shown that. It just seems the right refuses to believe or understand that and seems to want to push more and more towards bans that aren't popular at all with the public. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted January 11, 2024 2 hours ago, weepaws said: And all politicians lie as much as the government controlled media. Which media does the government control? Just the ones with which you disagree? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted January 11, 2024 3 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: And they're called ... WOMEN! Great point. It is now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,194 Posted January 11, 2024 Just now, Pimpadeaux said: Which media does the government control? Just the ones with which you disagree? I’m for free media, I don’t follow crap, so I don’t follow media all that much, I wish media wasn’t so government controlled, and it’s from the whole government body. The Bible is my pick. Yourself? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,439 Posted January 11, 2024 Abortion. Food costs at all time high in December. Abortion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted January 11, 2024 9 minutes ago, weepaws said: I’m for free media, I don’t follow crap, so I don’t follow media all that much, I wish media wasn’t so government controlled, and it’s from the whole government body. The Bible is my pick. Yourself? I spent 30 years in the media, so this whole conpiracy theory that the government controls it is baloney. I spent about a third of my career with a major media company, directing coverage and making the calls on what went on Page 1. I assure you that the Fourth Estate controls itself, albeit with biases that were kept in check when I was in the business. The only place opinions got discussed was behind closed doors in the editorial-board meeting. I've been watching CNN a lot lately, and they seem to have moved a bit closer to the middle lately and get plenty of Republican perspectives in there without talking over or belittling them. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted January 11, 2024 9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Abortion. Food costs at all time high in December. Abortion. Whatabout Troubadour. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,275 Posted January 11, 2024 32 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: I spent 30 years in the media, so this whole conpiracy theory that the government controls it is baloney. I spent about a third of my career with a major media company, directing coverage and making the calls on what went on Page 1. I assure you that the Fourth Estate controls itself, albeit with biases that were kept in check when I was in the business. The only place opinions got discussed was behind closed doors in the editorial-board meeting. Thank you. I have also worked in news media, but on the TV and radio side. Currently work in healthcare, another profession targeted by MAGA. I will never get over the ignorant hubris of people making conspiratorial claims like the government controls media or that medical practitioners are somehow aware that a vaccine doesn't work, or worse, but still push it on patients. All of it is 100% bullshlt, and only those that have zero clue about how those sectors work would ever make or repeat such patently absurd claims. So, of course, they pretty much all come from MAGAMOOKS. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomad99 744 Posted January 11, 2024 1 hour ago, BuckSwope said: I love when posters here try to tell others what the 3 major issues should be for them. Reality is, it very much is an issue that gets the people out and the last few years have shown that. It just seems the right refuses to believe or understand that and seems to want to push more and more towards bans that aren't popular at all with the public. If you don't think securing our border & rectifying that disaster aren't more important than abortion........you've proven my point better than I ever could 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 369 Posted January 11, 2024 3 hours ago, RLLD said: I wish it were true that he lied anywhere near as much as a normal politician, or that his lies were even worth mention. Sadly, he answers questions without any filter...and the media is keen to seize on that, and has done so. He certainly lies. Everyone does. He is just less skilled with it. I thought one of the draws to the guy was that he wasn't a "normal politician"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted January 11, 2024 1 minute ago, Fnord said: Thank you. I have also worked in news media, but on the TV and radio side. Currently work in healthcare, another profession targeted by MAGA. I will never get over the ignorant hubris of people making conspiratorial claims like the government controls media or that medical practitioners are somehow aware that a vaccine doesn't work, or worse, but still push it on patients. All of it is 100% bullshlt, and only those that have zero clue about how those sectors work would ever make or repeat such patently absurd claims. So, of course, they pretty much all come from MAGAMOOKS. This hardcore MAGA clown who lives in my community posted a meme of Qanon Shaman under the slogan "Happy Jan. 6 Selfie Day!" I responded with, "Well, 140 officers were injured that day." Of course, he and other MAGAturds jumped in with "but muh summer 2020 riots," "trump blah blah blah" and conspiracy theories about FBI operatives and the usual crap. I responded with, "I don't see it as a competition in which one cancels the other because one is perceived as worse. I stand by those who wear the badge and not tarnesh the bravery and suffering the officers saw on Jan. 6 by labeling that event as a selfie opportunity. I also support and respect our combat veterans regardless of one armed conflict being worse than another." MAGAturd whataboutism is so ridiculous. Just look at HT thinking we shouldn't talk about abortion because we should be focused on food prices. Never mind that the abortion issue exploded because Clownzo's Supreme Court overturned Roe V. Wade. Hey MAGAturd, it's OK to simultaneously discuss and address multiple issues! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,458 Posted January 11, 2024 15 minutes ago, Fnord said: Thank you. I have also worked in news media, but on the TV and radio side. Currently work in healthcare, another profession targeted by MAGA. I will never get over the ignorant hubris of people making conspiratorial claims like the government controls media or that medical practitioners are somehow aware that a vaccine doesn't work, or worse, but still push it on patients. All of it is 100% bullshlt, and only those that have zero clue about how those sectors work would ever make or repeat such patently absurd claims. So, of course, they pretty much all come from MAGAMOOKS. Masks (cloth) work and you won't get the virus if you're vaccinated are just a couple examples that discredit your claim of 100% bullshlt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,458 Posted January 11, 2024 2 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: This hardcore MAGA clown who lives in my community posted a meme of Qanon Shaman under the slogan "Happy Jan. 6 Selfie Day!" That's so dumb. It's "Patriots Day". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted January 11, 2024 1 minute ago, zsasz said: I thought one of the draws to the guy was that he wasn't a "normal politician"? That is true. But in order to be elected he has to lie like one. Politics requires that one be able to lie as easily as breathing. For instance, if the people of the nation are suffering under oppressive inflation.....you have to be able to skillfully lie that it does not actually exist....maybe for months.... Trump does not have that muscle. And its wonderful. Instead he will say something off the cuff that is provably false, but does not actually harm anyone. He does not subscribe to the normal political lies we tend to observe, and from the media as well, which I find refreshing. But in order to undo the damage done to this nation, I prefer he be elected if possible...and his antics run counter to that outcome. Outcomes matter....not lies and misrepresentation.... Trump gave us good outcomes.....beyond that I really dont care what he spews from his suck.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted January 11, 2024 2 minutes ago, Horseman said: That's so dumb. It's "Patriots Day". I'm glad this country's fascists have a day they can celebrate being traitors together! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,458 Posted January 11, 2024 2 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: I'm glad this country's fascists have a day they can celebrate being traitors together! Don't worry, you still have October 29th to look forward to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted January 11, 2024 2 minutes ago, Horseman said: Don't worry, you still have October 29th to look forward to. I don't celebrate the start of The Great Depression, but if you celebrate that kind of thing, it doesn't surprise me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,799 Posted January 11, 2024 1 hour ago, Pimpadeaux said: I spent 30 years in the media, so this whole conpiracy theory that the government controls it is baloney. I spent about a third of my career with a major media company, directing coverage and making the calls on what went on Page 1. I assure you that the Fourth Estate controls itself, albeit with biases that were kept in check when I was in the business. The only place opinions got discussed was behind closed doors in the editorial-board meeting. Impressive that the Buttmont Bugle had higher journalistic integrity than the NYT, which has had two editors in the past 25 years admit to Left bias in their writing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,431 Posted January 11, 2024 GC: Pfft abortion, what a nothingburger! Also GC: Trannies! Drag queens! CRT! Harvard! Reeeeeeeeee!!! 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,439 Posted January 11, 2024 Yeah, the pharmaceutical industry buys all those adds and donates all that money to politicians and have no control. Ok. My favorite is when they get “former” pharmaceutical executives appointed to positions that oversee and regulate them. Just wasting their billions. It’s all on the up and up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted January 11, 2024 1 minute ago, jerryskids said: Impressive that the Buttmont Bugle had higher journalistic integrity than the NYT, which has had two editors in the past 25 years admit to Left bias in their writing. Sure, it's a left-leaning publication. It always has been. So has the Washington Post. So what? Consider their audience. But that doesn't mean the reporters on those publications don't strive to run down the facts and present both sides in their stories. I certainly worked for a few right-leaning newspapers. One of them canceled the subscription to "For Better or Worse," one of the nation's top comic strips at the time, because a gay character was introduced. I thought that was stupid At a different paper, we ran the story about Texor gays being able to get married on the front page below the fold, where it belonged, and the publisher got and said it shouldn't have been in the newspaper at all. That was even stupider. It was a huge focking story regardless of anyone's viewpoint. A newpaper's editorial-page content certainly needs to reflect the community it serves. Buttmont is a blue city. The overarching point being is that the government doesn't control the media, and anyone who believes that is just ignorant and uninformed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted January 11, 2024 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Yeah, the pharmaceutical industry buys all those adds and donates all that money to politicians and have no control. Ok. My favorite is when they get “former” pharmaceutical executives appointed to positions that oversee and regulate them. Just wasting their billions. Do we need to focus on that instead of the "wide open borders?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,799 Posted January 11, 2024 I actually think Trump could create a positive out of the abortion thing, or at least neutralize it. Something like, "abortion is a contentious issue with strong feelings on each side. That is why I'm glad that the court I appointed* sent it back to the states, to be decided on a local level. My message to all of you who feel strongly on this issue is to use your powers of persuasion and the political processes** available to you to convince your neighbors of your position, and to create laws to that effect." * -- I don't think "I appointed" is necessary, but Trump's narcissism requires him to look the bestest in any speech. ** -- Nice use of alliteration, if I do say so myself. :patsownback: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted January 11, 2024 30 minutes ago, Nomad99 said: If you don't think securing our border & rectifying that disaster aren't more important than abortion........you've proven my point better than I ever could That is more important to me than the abortion issue. I understand and accept that others might not share that opinion. I could see Alaskans and Hawaiians not caring much about the issue for starters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,439 Posted January 11, 2024 1 minute ago, Pimpadeaux said: Do we need to focus on that instead of the "wide open borders?" Didn’t you just run your stupid mouth about two things at once? Rusty done in by himself once again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,458 Posted January 11, 2024 19 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: I don't celebrate the start of The Great Depression, but if you celebrate that kind of thing, it doesn't surprise me. October 29th is National Cat Day to raise awareness for cat adoption. How can you possibly be this bad at everything you do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,799 Posted January 11, 2024 1 minute ago, BuckSwope said: That is more important to me than the abortion issue. I understand and accept that others might not share that opinion. I could see Alaskans and Hawaiians not caring much about the issue for starters. I might cross the border illegally if they'll fly me to Hawaii for free! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted January 11, 2024 Abortion will hurt him, no doubt. But polling now says he wins the EC by a pretty comfortable margin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,283 Posted January 11, 2024 4 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I actually think Trump could create a positive out of the abortion thing, or at least neutralize it. Something like, "abortion is a contentious issue with strong feelings on each side. That is why I'm glad that the court I appointed* sent it back to the states, to be decided on a local level. My message to all of you who feel strongly on this issue is to use your powers of persuasion and the political processes** available to you to convince your neighbors of your position, and to create laws to that effect." * -- I don't think "I appointed" is necessary, but Trump's narcissism requires him to look the bestest in any speech. ** -- Nice use of alliteration, if I do say so myself. :patsownback: Or if he wanted to be honest he could say something like... abortion is a contentious issue with strong feelings on each side. That is why I'm glad that the court I appointed* sent it back to the states, to be decided on a local level Mitch McConnel raised the level of political games of SCOTUS appointments to heights no one ever dreamed... My message to all of you who feel strongly on this issue is to use your powers of persuasion and the political processes** available to you to convince your neighbors of your position, and to create laws to that effect." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted January 11, 2024 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Didn’t you just run your stupid mouth about two things at once? Rusty done in by himself once again. I was mocking you because you think abortion isn't a discussion topic and that food prices should be the focus. You have underscored time and time that issues are best viewed and discussed one at a time through a very narrow keyhole. It's perfectly fine to simultaneously address multiple issues. You can to eeeeeeet! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,546 Posted January 11, 2024 5 hours ago, thegeneral said: Don is next level. One of the funniest parts is his fanboys racing into to explain how it is actually all true. "Yeah but" is your go to? LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted January 11, 2024 3 minutes ago, Horseman said: October 29th is National Cat Day. How can you possibly be this bad at everything you do? Every focking day is National Cat Day in our world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,283 Posted January 11, 2024 1 minute ago, Pimpadeaux said: Every focking day is National Cat Day in our world. My cats like National Cat day, and they like your take on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,439 Posted January 11, 2024 4 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: I was mocking you because you think abortion isn't a discussion topic and that food prices should be the focus. You have underscored time and time that issues are best viewed and discussed one at a time through a very narrow keyhole. It's perfectly fine to simultaneously address multiple issues. You can to eeeeeeet! Not what I said. My point was run on Abortion if you like, while voters are paying more for food than ever before. Go ahead and remind them that the GDP is up slightly and Biden created 100 million jobs. I’m sure they will rethink things, and forget their real economy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 925 Posted January 11, 2024 5 hours ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Yes. Sending the abortion issue to the states is much worse than Bidenflation, WWIII, terrorists and cartels seizing our border, being forced to give up gas stoves/cars/appliances, facing violent transgender assassin squads, unaffordable housing, ending US sovereignty… It's early, but this gets my vote for post of the year. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted January 11, 2024 6 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: "Yeah but" is your go to? LOL i was yeah butting a yeah butt. I said it last so I win. Alpha! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,546 Posted January 11, 2024 4 minutes ago, thegeneral said: i was yeah butting a yeah butt. I said it last so I win. Alpha! touché Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted January 11, 2024 36 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Not what I said. My point was run on Abortion if you like, while voters are paying more for food than ever before. Go ahead and remind them that the GDP is up slightly and Biden created 100 million jobs. I’m sure they will rethink things, and forget their real economy. Intelligent voters understand basic economics and supply and demand. They understand the inflation causes rather than ignorantly blaming the president. The president doesn't set food prices. Food companies do. However, Clownzo not only played a monster role in the overturning of Roe v. Wade, he's bragging about it and taking credit for it. But if you want to give a president credit for something, how about giving Biden credit for slowing inflation and bringing down gas prices? I paid $2.35 for a gallon this week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites