Details released on bipartisan immigration bill that MAGAturds don't want because it vaporizes a Clownzo campaign issue

[Raven Fan 362]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

How could anyone ever support this traitorous POS?

Oh wait, by being low IQ, insecure, and easily manipulated like a child.

That's how. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,908]

Negotiating about our border security?  No. Just do it, it’s your duty.  This is 100 pct on Biden/ Harris. You broke it, now fox it. 

[supermike80 2,066]

Oh this is rich.  The border has been an issue FOREVER!   Now the dems wanna try to pivot it onto Trump?  Amazing. It is literally amazing

[Hardcore troubadour 15,908]

3 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Oh this is rich.  The border has been an issue FOREVER!   Now the dems wanna try to pivot it onto Trump?  Amazing. It is literally amazing

No one  is buying it. It’s such a pathetic attempt at deflection. Biden has never taken responsibility for anything in his life. 

[Voltaire 5,453]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

I don't follow along on Truth Social to see what he says. I quoted a clip from The Hill. This is not the best look. I think Trump, Congress, and the public should look at the bill first. He's probably right and it'll suck but we don't know that. If its too weak point out why, then bash the Democrats unless and until they cave on their candy-ass legislation and come back with something decent. If it does turn out to be a good bill, pass it no matter what President Trump thinks. I'm not exactly holding my breathe for a good bill but you know what, James Lankford is one of the people negotiating it and I'm not ready to throw him under the bus. If signs off on it in the end, it's worth a look.  

I expect a Ukraine funding bill with a couple of meaningless, no-impact clauses in it but am hopeful to be surprised. Here's $80 billion in Ukraine war effort funding and border security now has access to warehouse full of thousands of typewriters and rotary phones we've had in storage since 1983. It's bipartisan. If you deprive border patrol of those much needed typewriters and phones, you hate America.

Or not. Its not out of the question the Democrats look at the polling on this issue and actually want to get off their asses this one time.

[Tree of Knowledge 2,098]

Who is Clownzo?

[Voltaire 5,453]

2 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Who is Clownzo?

That's been Rusty's nickname for President Trump for many years.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,908]

It’s one of the rare instances that people can see what’s going on as a direct result of a different policy.  They see it on TV, they see it in their community. The political gobblygook and blame placing can’t override that. Illegals being given medical care by the VA while our veterans are made to wait. Schools being closed so illegals can be sheltered. Hotels overrun with illegals that we pay for while our own homeless sleep in the street. A constant stream of Fentanyl overdoses. Keep telling the people it’s not happening or it’s someone else’s fault. Good luck. All that’s going to bring is resentment. There is no legislation necessary to address this chaos. It was done on purpose. It can be undone. 

[seafoam1 3,397]

7 hours ago, Voltaire said:

Oh, I would. Seeing them both die of natural causes on the same day would be wonderful. I'd advocate for making January 26th a national holiday celebration : Deliverance Day.

Good point. 

[Dizkneelande 1,136]

36 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

I don't follow along on Truth Social to see what he says. I quoted a clip from The Hill. This is not the best look. I think Trump, Congress, and the public should look at the bill first. He's probably right and it'll suck but we don't know that. If its too weak point out why, then bash the Democrats unless and until they cave on their candy-ass legislation and come back with something decent. If it does turn out to be a good bill, pass it no matter what President Trump thinks. I'm not exactly holding my breathe for a good bill but you know what, James Lankford is one of the people negotiating it and I'm not ready to throw him under the bus. If signs off on it in the end, it's worth a look.  

I expect a Ukraine funding bill with a couple of meaningless, no-impact clauses in it but am hopeful to be surprised. Here's $80 billion in Ukraine war effort funding and border security now has access to warehouse full of thousands of typewriters and rotary phones we've had in storage since 1983. It's bipartisan. If you deprive border patrol of those much needed typewriters and phones, you hate America.

Or not. It’s not out of the question the Democrats look at the polling on this issue and actually want to get off their asses this one time.

Have you seen the details of the bill? They are readily available. Everyone can see it would be a disaster that will do nothing to secure the border. Yet people are still proclaiming their support for it on here simply due to who's opposing it.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,908]

9 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

Have you seen the details of the bill? They are readily available. Everyone can see it would be a disaster that will do nothing to secure the border. Yet people are still proclaiming their support for it on here simply due to who's opposing it.

There are some mealy mouthed guys around here desperate to seem credible.  Take it with a grain of salt. 

[Dizkneelande 1,136]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

There are some mealy mouthed guys around here desperate to seem credible.  Take it with a grain of salt. 

I get that. It’s the level of partisan ignorance and dangerous rhetoric that have me gravely concerned. The left is out for blood and they don’t seem to understand or worse, care that Biden can put a stop to this today. What’s going on at the Texas border is not good. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,908]

3 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

I get that. It’s the level of partisan ignorance and dangerous rhetoric that have me gravely concerned. The left is out for blood and they don’t seem to understand or worse, care that Biden can put a stop to this today. What’s going on at the Texas border is not good. 

Exactly.  Negotiations are not necessary. They only want to gain from the crisis they created. They broke it, they can fix it. 

[seafoam1 3,397]

1 minute ago, Dizkneelande said:

I get that. It’s the level of partisan ignorance and dangerous rhetoric that have me gravely concerned. The left is out for blood and they don’t seem to understand or worse, care that Biden can put a stop to this today. What’s going on at the Texas border is not good. 

Seriously. What president has ever raised the temperature to this level here at home? Biden is seriously focking up by letting his puppet-masters get out of hand. Dude has the power to stop this shlt right now but he refuses. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,908]

4 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Seriously. What president has ever raised the temperature to this level here at home? Biden is seriously focking up by letting his puppet-masters get out of hand. Dude has the power to stop this shlt right now but he refuses. 

And that’s all the republicans have to counter with. It’s that simple. Tell him to Fock off with his border negotiations. The law and his duty are clear and already exist. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,656]

11 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

I've never said it wasn't. I just don't go overboard and say we have "wide-open borders." 

That's the same kind of hyperbole and hypercatastrophizing that MAGAturds apply to the summer 2020 riots when they say "our cities are burning."

Our borders are not "wide open," and entire cities were not burning in summer 2020.

But the point here is that Clownzo is trying to torpedo a bipartisan immigration bill because he's a selfish pr!ck who loses campaign traction if Congress passes a bipartisan bill that addresses immigration and gives Biden a W on a MAGAturd obsession point.

Stick to that one point and get back to me, clown.

Sorry dude, but when you say we won't kick anyone out that comes here illegally (sanctuary cities), you're saying you want open borders.

[seafoam1 3,397]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

And that’s all the republicans have to counter with. It’s that simple. Tell him to Fock off with his border negotiations. The law and his duty are clear and already exist. 

...already exist. No change is needed. Just fall back on what's there. But no...

[TBayXXXVII 2,656]

Question to the board, is Rusty just trolling or his he really this stupid?  And I mean that with all sincerity.  Is he really this ignorant and incompetent or is it just an act?

[seafoam1 3,397]

Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

Question to the board, is Rusty just trolling or his he really this stupid?

My opinion? TDS is real. So....both. 

[Engorgeous George 2,332]

I remember last year, and three years ago, and all the way back to Reagan's compromise.  Characters like Biden, Newsome, Pelosi and Trump each trying to define history for me do not work.  i trust my failing memory instead.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,908]

Three years in and still blaming the last guy. 

[seafoam1 3,397]

4 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

I remember last year, and three years ago, and all the way back to Reagan's compromise.  Characters like Biden, Newsome, Pelosi and Trump each trying to define history for me do not work.  i trust my failing memory instead.

Trump is not a guy trying to define history like the others you mention. He wants to stop the idiocy and then sail off into wherever. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,908]

So Bidens immigration deal is DOA. Now what?  Blame someone else or do something? Where my Libtards at? 

[jerryskids 7,050]

8 hours ago, Strike said:

What's in the bill?

Doesn't matter.  Biden is proposing it, and it probably has the word "border" in it somewhere.  Good enough for Rusty, it should be good enough for all of us center-right conservatives.   

[seafoam1 3,397]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

Doesn't matter.  Biden is proposing it, and it probably has the word "border" in it somewhere.  Good enough for Rusty, it should be good enough for all of us center-right conservatives.   

[jerryskids 7,050]

2 hours ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Who is Clownzo?

 

2 hours ago, Voltaire said:

That's been Rusty's nickname for President Trump for many years.

Rusty likes to dehumanize a former POTUS with derogatory nicknames.  It's part of what makes him morally superior to the rest of us.   

[Strike 5,973]

3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Doesn't matter.  Biden is proposing it, and it probably has the word "border" in it somewhere.  Good enough for Rusty, it should be good enough for all of us center-right conservatives.   

Well, the "Inflation reduction act" got @The Real timschochet and @Pimpadeaux to fall for it so I guess there is precedent. 

[Mike Honcho 5,412]

So just to be clear, Congress is more successful at coming together on the issues than the GC. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,908]

Biden did away with Trumps EO’s on illegal immigration as soon as he got there. You break it, you bought it.  

[Strike 5,973]

17 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

So just to be clear, Congress is more successful at coming together on the issues than the GC. 

Not sure what you mean.  Has this bill been passed by congress?  Does 100% of congress agree with it even if it passed?  I suspect not given the comments I've read from some Senators.  So how is it any different than the Geek Club or are you just going for a "GOTCHA" post?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,908]

10 minutes ago, Strike said:

Not sure what you mean.  Has this bill been passed by congress?  Does 100% of congress agree with it even if it passed?  I suspect not given the comments I've read from some Senators.  So how is it any different than the Geek Club or are you just going for a "GOTCHA" post?

Johnson said it’s DOA. We’ll see. It’s not like they never take a breather and come back with different packaging. 

[Strike 5,973]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Johnson said it’s DOA. We’ll see. It’s not they never take a breather and come back with different packaging. 

Yeah I know.  But this has nothing to do with my point which is that Honcho is just trying his typical drive by "GOTCHA" post.  He's just another one of those "centrists" we keep hearing about. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,908]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

Yeah I know.  But this has nothing to do with my point which is that Honcho is just trying his typical drive by "GOTCHA" post.  He's just another one of those "centrists" we keep hearing about. 

I have to say that Honcho is one of the few that owns his libtardedness.  He doesn’t play the centrist bullshit like those other weaklings. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

2 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Sorry dude, but when you say we won't kick anyone out that comes here illegally (sanctuary cities), you're saying you want open borders.

When have I ever said any of that? Typical MAGAturd fabrication. 

The point is that Clownzo is trying to derail a bipartisan bill under Biden's watch because its passing would hurt him politically.

Biden has made concessions in the name of bipartisan support, but now MAGAturds are , deflecting, gish galloping and fabricating information because their boy won't be able to whine as much about the border during his campaign.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,908]

There were no illegals being put up in hotels by the thousands until Biden. That never happened before. Yeah, it’s Trump. 

[Horseman 2,684]

Imagine starting a thread like this without even reading what's in the bill.   

Russia + Ukraine + 1000 more border agents to process "asylum seekers" faster.

Only an idiot would sign up for that.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,908]

Biden had the house and the senate for two years. He could have “fixed “ it then. He chose not to. This is on him. 

[The Real timschochet 7,362]

3 hours ago, Dizkneelande said:

Have you seen the details of the bill? They are readily available. Everyone can see it would be a disaster that will do nothing to secure the border. Yet people are still proclaiming their support for it on here simply due to who's opposing it.

Actually they’re not. Both sides have kept the details under wraps. The MAGa crowd assumes it’s weak and includes some sort of amnesty. Leftists like AOC assume it’s a surrender to the right and oppose it. Personally I’d like to know the specifics. 
 

 

[Strike 5,973]

13 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

This is a bill in Congress. Presidents don't introduce bills.

Biden has dealt with this issue since Day 1, and now it becomes an "all of a sudden" issue only because it's something that take a chunk out of what Clownzo can harp on with his election campaign.

 

 

10 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

 

The point is that Clownzo is trying to derail a bipartisan bill under Biden's watch because its passing would hurt him politically.

Biden has made concessions in the name of bipartisan support, but now MAGAturds are , deflecting, gish galloping and fabricating information because their boy won't be able to whine as much about the border during his campaign.

 

[TheNewGirl 1,634]

5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

There were no illegals being put up in hotels by the thousands until Biden. That never happened before. Yeah, it’s Trump. 

There was also a SCHOOL that had children sent home for remote learning so illegals could move in.