Pimpadeaux 2,404 Posted February 11, 2024 https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/rock-roll-hall-fame-unveils-2024-nominees-2024-02-10/ Mariah Carey - Meh, I guess so. Maybe not first ballot. Cher - I guess so. Foreigner - Yes. Peter Frampton - No. He had like what, two or three hits? Thpppppp. Kool & the Gang - Maybe Lenny Kravitz - One or two hits? No, not on first ballot. Oasis - Yes. They deserve to be in. Sade - Maybe. Sinead O'Connor - Maybe. Her first few albums are pretty good. Ozzy Osbourne - Hell yes. He's had a helluva solo career. Mary J. Blidge - Don't know her music. Erik B. and Rakim - Don't know the music. Jane's Addiction - Hell yes. A Tribe Called Quest - Don't know the music. Dave Matthews Band - Sure, yeah. Artists that aren't in but should be: https://ultimateclassicrock.com/artists-not-in-the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame/ Robert Plant as a solo artist. Alice in Chains Anthrax Butth0le Surfers Black Flag X Dead Kennedys Bachman Turner Overdrive Bad Company Beck B-52s The Black Crowes Blue Oyster Cult Boston Joe Cocker Phil Collins Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young The Cult Devo Dio ELP The Fabulous Thunderbirds Foghat Grand Funk Railroad Sammy Hagar Billy Idol Iron Maiden Jethro Tull Kansas King Crimson Korn Huey Lewis and the News Megadeth Molly Hatchet Motley Crue Motorhead New York Dolls Pantera Pixies Poison Iggy Pop REO Speedwagon Scorpions Smashing Pumpkins Soundgarden Billy Squier STP Stray Cats Supertramp Rusty Syringes Ten Years After Thin Lizzie Three Dog Night Tool Joe Walsh Edgar and Johnny Winter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,010 Posted February 11, 2024 Your criteria seems random Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,404 Posted February 11, 2024 9 minutes ago, cmh6476 said: Your criteria seems random Popularity, quality, body of work and musical impact fall into my criteria. Frampton had three focking hits. Sure, they were popular, but did they move the sticks? His studio albums suck for the most part. Robert Plant has had an incredible solo career, with many solid albums and some hits. How did Stevie Nicks get in ahead of him? Also, early American punk rock has been sorely overlooked. Black Flag, Dead Kennedys and X had a huge impact on music and myriad quality albums. I'm not going to rule them out because they had no No. 1 hits. The Butth0le Surfers put out some of the most original music the world has ever seen. The New York Dolls had a huge impact. Bands such as Foghat, Foreigner, REO Speedwagon and Joe Walsh ruled the AOR world. And how the fock are Soundgarden and Alice in Chains not in there? They helped invent a new music genre. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,186 Posted February 11, 2024 Just now, Pimpadeaux said: Popularity, quality, body of work and musical impact fall into my criteria. Frampton had three focking hits. Sure, they were popular, but did they move the sticks? His studio albums suck for the most part. Robert Plant has had an incredible solo career, with many solid albums and some hits. How did Stevie Nicks get in ahead of him. Also, early American punk rock has been sorely overlooked. Black Flag, Dead Kennedys and X had a huge impact on music and myriad quality albums. I'm not going to rule them out because they had no No. 1 hits. The Butth0le Surfers put out some of the most original music the world has ever seen. The New York Dolls had a huge impact. Bands such as Foghat, Foreigner, REO Speedwagon and Joe Walsh ruled the AOR world. And how the fock are Soundgarden and Alice in Chains not in there? They helped invent a new music genre. No one knows anything Sinead O'connor did other than "Nothing compares 2 u", which she didn't even write. Give me a focking break. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted February 11, 2024 16 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/rock-roll-hall-fame-unveils-2024-nominees-2024-02-10/ Mariah Carey - Meh, I guess so. Maybe not first ballot. Cher - I guess so. Foreigner - Yes. Peter Frampton - No. He had like what, two or three hits? Thpppppp. Kool & the Gang - Maybe Lenny Kravitz - One or two hits? No, not on first ballot. Oasis - Yes. They deserve to be in. Sade - Maybe. Sinead O'Connor - Maybe. Her first few albums are pretty good. Ozzy Osbourne - Hell yes. He's had a helluva solo career. Mary J. Blidge - Don't know her music. Erik B. and Rakim - Don't know the music. Jane's Addiction - Hell yes. A Tribe Called Quest - Don't know the music. Dave Matthews Band - Sure, yeah. Artists that aren't in but should be: https://ultimateclassicrock.com/artists-not-in-the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame/ Robert Plant as a solo artist. Alice in Chains Anthrax Butth0le Surfers Black Flag X Dead Kennedys Bachman Turner Overdrive Bad Company Beck B-52s The Black Crowes Blue Oyster Cult Boston Joe Cocker Phil Collins Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young The Cult Devo Dio ELP The Fabulous Thunderbirds Foghat Grand Funk Railroad Sammy Hagar Billy Idol Iron Maiden Jethro Tull Kansas King Crimson Korn Huey Lewis and the News Megadeth Molly Hatchet Motley Crue Motorhead New York Dolls Pantera Pixies Poison Iggy Pop REO Speedwagon Scorpions Smashing Pumpkins Soundgarden Billy Squier STP Stray Cats Supertramp Rusty Syringes Ten Years After Thin Lizzie Three Dog Night Tool Joe Walsh Edgar and Johnny Winter Pedo Joe: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,010 Posted February 11, 2024 7 minutes ago, Strike said: No one knows anything Sinead O'connor did other than "Nothing compares 2 u", which she didn't even write. Give me a focking break. If that's your only complaint then that must be a pretty good list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,926 Posted February 11, 2024 No Rick Springfield? Trash list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,186 Posted February 11, 2024 15 minutes ago, cmh6476 said: If that's your only complaint then that must be a pretty good list. Eh. The "rock and roll hall of fame" is anything BUT a "Rock 'n Roll" hall of fame. It's pretty much a joke at this point. So I really don't care. I was critiquing Rusty's analysis of Frampton vs. Sinead more than anything. If not for Prince no one would even know who the fock Sinead O'connor was. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,947 Posted February 11, 2024 8 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said: Popularity, quality, body of work and musical impact fall into my criteria. Frampton had three focking hits. Sure, they were popular, but did they move the sticks? His studio albums suck for the most part. Robert Plant has had an incredible solo career, with many solid albums and some hits. How did Stevie Nicks get in ahead of him? Also, early American punk rock has been sorely overlooked. Black Flag, Dead Kennedys and X had a huge impact on music and myriad quality albums. I'm not going to rule them out because they had no No. 1 hits. The Butth0le Surfers put out some of the most original music the world has ever seen. The New York Dolls had a huge impact. Bands such as Foghat, Foreigner, REO Speedwagon and Joe Walsh ruled the AOR world. And how the fock are Soundgarden and Alice in Chains not in there? They helped invent a new music genre. I would add to the list of notable omissions: Tommy James & The Shondells The Guess Who Rory Gallagher As far as some of the artists you named above, a few comments: Peter Frampton: I wouldn't vote for him, but I can see him making the list because Frampton Comes Alive was hugely popular when it came out (sold 8 million copies) and you couldn't away from hearing it or seeing his press coverage. Plus Show Me The Way and Baby I Love Your Way still get a lot of airplay on Classic Rock stations. Foghat: I love Foghat but I think most Rock listeners would be hard pressed to name another song of theirs outside of Slow Ride. X: Never had a hit album (none made Top 50) or a hit single (Burning House Of Love did best peaking at #27 Billboard Hot 100) and TR&RHOF seems to place an overemphasis on sales (particularly LPs) and unless a band was a darling of Rock critics (Velvet Underground comes to mind) they probably wouldn't ever see a nomination if they didn't sell that well or get a lot of airplay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,404 Posted February 11, 2024 51 minutes ago, Strike said: Eh. The "rock and roll hall of fame" is anything BUT a "Rock 'n Roll" hall of fame. It's pretty much a joke at this point. So I really don't care. I was critiquing Rusty's analysis of Frampton vs. Sinead more than anything. If not for Prince no one would even know who the fock Sinead O'connor was. There are a lot of bands that helped other bands get noticed, so this is a bogus disqualification. George Harrison mentioned to head of a label that snubbed The Beatles that he should probably not pass on The Rolling Stones. It was Led Zeppelin's label, Swan Song, that signed Bad Company. Chrissy Hynde discovered The Violent Femmes busking on a street corner. I think the biggest omission didn't even make the list I linked to, and that would be Status.Quo. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,947 Posted February 11, 2024 22 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: There are a lot of bands that helped other bands get noticed, so this is a bogus disqualification. George Harrison mentioned to head of a label that snubbed The Beatles that he should probably not pass on The Rolling Stones. It was Led Zeppelin's label, Swan Song, that signed Bad Company. Chrissy Hynde discovered The Violent Femmes busking on a street corner. I think the biggest omission didn't even make the list I linked to, and that would be Status.Quo. Status Quo? They are best known for being that the band that the movie/group Spinal Tap was based on (although the producers deny that). They were big in the UK, but on this side of the pond their only claim to fame is "Pictures Of Matchstick Men" #12 US Hot 100 in 1968 and one hit single is usually not enough in itself to interest the voters of TR&RHOF (rightfully or wrongfully). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,182 Posted February 11, 2024 1 hour ago, Strike said: Eh. The "rock and roll hall of fame" is anything BUT a "Rock 'n Roll" hall of fame. It's pretty much a joke at this point. So I really don't care. I was critiquing Rusty's analysis of Frampton vs. Sinead more than anything. If not for Prince no one would even know who the fock Sinead O'connor was. Every year the same. This Not that the artists that make it aren't quality. If they changed the name to something else, I'd respect it more. But the name is an insult to the Rock and Roll genre. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,310 Posted February 11, 2024 OZZY Jane’s Addiction Sade Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,926 Posted February 11, 2024 Foghat ruled something? I must have missed that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,288 Posted February 11, 2024 I like these bands: Oasis Jane's Addiction Dave Matthews Band Kool & the Gang Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,010 Posted February 11, 2024 Fock I've been listening to some much azz vinyl all day long... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,276 Posted February 11, 2024 Wanting to be in/complaining about a hall of fame is the least rock/metal thing ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,739 Posted February 11, 2024 - Iron Maiden - Sound Garden - Pumpkins - Motley Crue (eww) - Crosby Stills Nash & Young - Mariah Carey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,890 Posted February 11, 2024 Devin Townsend Project Tool Public Enemy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,404 Posted February 11, 2024 2 hours ago, squistion said: Status Quo? They are best known for being that the band that the movie/group Spinal Tap was based on (although the producers deny that). They were big in the UK, but on this side of the pond their only claim to fame is "Pictures Of Matchstick Men" #12 US Hot 100 in 1968 and one hit single is usually not enough in itself to interest the voters of TR&RHOF (rightfully or wrongfully). I don't buy that about "Spinal Tap." They spoofed bits and pieces of everyone, like the violin scene mocking Led Zeppelin. The lead singer looks like Robert Plant, the guitarist looks like Jeff Beck, the basist looks like Lemmy and the drummer who chokes on his own vomit is a spoof of John Bonham and others. Status Quo did exist briefly in its early years as a psychedelic band, with the hit "Pictures of Matchstick Men," which Spinal Tap mocks with "Listen to What the Flower People Say." But they ditched that after a couple of albums, put on jeans and T-shirts and rocked the fock out. Have you ever listened to Status Quo? Their 1977 live album makes just about ever list of greatest live albums of all time. Four maybe five of their albums are classics. They have sold 118 million albums, yet never get mentioned on lists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_Quo_(band) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_music_artists That puts them ahead of Coldplay, Guns 'N' Roses, Eric Clapton, Prince, Journey, Dire Straits, The Doors, Bob Dylan, David Bowie, Def Leppard, The Beach Boys, Van Halen, Tom Petty, Green Day and Nirvana, to name a few. They never got the air play, exposure and popularity they should have gotten in the United States. I don't know whose fault that is, but they were a way better boogie-rock outfit than Foghat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,404 Posted February 11, 2024 I agree with Rory Gallagher, for sure. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,947 Posted February 11, 2024 4 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said: I don't buy that about "Spinal Tap." They spoofed bits and pieces of everyone, like the violin scene mocking Led Zeppelin. The lead singer looks like Robert Plant, the guitarist looks like Jeff Beck, the basist looks like Lemmy and the drummer who chokes on his own vomit is a spoof of John Bonham and others. Status Quo did exist briefly in its early years as a psychedelic band, with the hit "Pictures of Matchstick Men," which Spinal Tap mocks with "Listen to What the Flower People Say." But they ditched that after a couple of albums, put on jeans and T-shirts and rocked the fock out. Have you ever listened to Status Quo? Their 1977 live album makes just about ever list of greatest live albums of all time. Four maybe five of their albums are classics. They have sold 118 million albums, yet never get mentioned on lists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_Quo_(band) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_music_artists That puts them ahead of Coldplay, Guns 'N' Roses, Eric Clapton, Prince, Journey, Dire Straits, The Doors, Bob Dylan, David Bowie, Def Leppard, The Beach Boys, Van Halen, Tom Petty, Green Day and Nirvana, to name a few. They never got the air play, exposure and popularity they should have gotten in the United States. I don't know whose fault that is, but they were a way better boogie-rock outfit than Foghat. Listened to them? I bought the Piledriver LP and saw them live in the 70's when they were touring, I think at The Hollywood Palladium (as a supporting act, not the headliner). I remember them doing Don't Waste My Time, which had gotten some attention in L.A. And yes, they were obviously the model for Spinal Tap IMO with the changes they went through (with the later long hair and boogie sound the band had developed at the time I saw them), but we will have to agree to disagree on that. And I wouldn't really call Foghat a "Boogie Rock" outfit, per se. I followed them from the start after they split from Savoy Brown and would call them more a Hard Rock and/or a Blues Rock band (although some boogie was thrown in there too). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,404 Posted February 12, 2024 1 hour ago, squistion said: Listened to them? I bought the Piledriver LP and saw them live in the 70's when they were touring, I think at The Hollywood Palladium (as a supporting act, not the headliner). I remember them doing Don't Waste My Time, which had gotten some attention in L.A. And yes, they were obviously the model for Spinal Tap IMO with the changes they went through (with the later long hair and boogie sound the band had developed at the time I saw them), but we will have to agree to disagree on that. And I wouldn't really call Foghat a "Boogie Rock" outfit, per se. I followed them from the start after they split from Savoy Brown and would call them more a Hard Rock and/or s Blues Rock and (although some boogie was thrown in there too). Well then they should be in the hall for inspiring Spinal Tap. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,803 Posted February 12, 2024 6 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said: https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/rock-roll-hall-fame-unveils-2024-nominees-2024-02-10/ Mariah Carey - Meh, I guess so. Maybe not first ballot. Cher - I guess so. Foreigner - Yes. Peter Frampton - No. He had like what, two or three hits? Thpppppp. Kool & the Gang - Maybe Lenny Kravitz - One or two hits? No, not on first ballot. Oasis - Yes. They deserve to be in. Sade - Maybe. Sinead O'Connor - Maybe. Her first few albums are pretty good. Ozzy Osbourne - Hell yes. He's had a helluva solo career. Mary J. Blidge - Don't know her music. Erik B. and Rakim - Don't know the music. Jane's Addiction - Hell yes. A Tribe Called Quest - Don't know the music. Dave Matthews Band - Sure, yeah. Artists that aren't in but should be: https://ultimateclassicrock.com/artists-not-in-the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame/ Robert Plant as a solo artist. Alice in Chains Anthrax Butth0le Surfers Black Flag X Dead Kennedys Bachman Turner Overdrive Bad Company Beck B-52s The Black Crowes Blue Oyster Cult Boston Joe Cocker Phil Collins Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young The Cult Devo Dio ELP The Fabulous Thunderbirds Foghat Grand Funk Railroad Sammy Hagar Billy Idol Iron Maiden Jethro Tull Kansas King Crimson Korn Huey Lewis and the News Megadeth Molly Hatchet Motley Crue Motorhead New York Dolls Pantera Pixies Poison Iggy Pop REO Speedwagon Scorpions Smashing Pumpkins Soundgarden Billy Squier STP Stray Cats Supertramp Rusty Syringes Ten Years After Thin Lizzie Three Dog Night Tool Joe Walsh Edgar and Johnny Winter Youre focking high if you say yes to Oasis and no to Frampton. Zero credibility Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,276 Posted February 12, 2024 1 hour ago, supermike80 said: Youre focking high if you say yes to Oasis and no to Frampton. Zero credibility I feel like you do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,404 Posted April 22, 2024 Mary J. Blidge Jimmy Buffett Cher Dave Matthes Band Foreigner Peter Frampton Kool & the Gang Alexis Korner John Mayall MC5 Ozzy Osbourne Suzanne De Passe Rusty Syringes Big Mama Thornton A Tribe Called Quest Dionne Warwick Norman Whitfield Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,559 Posted April 22, 2024 41 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: Mary J. Blidge Jimmy Buffett Cher Dave Matthes Band Foreigner Peter Frampton Kool & the Gang Alexis Korner John Mayall MC5 Ozzy Osbourne Suzanne De Passe Rusty Syringes Big Mama Thornton A Tribe Called Quest Dionne Warwick Norman Whitfield A Tribe Called Quest? Is that a DEI entry? I couldn't name a single song of theirs, and looking them up, this was in my wheelhouse of music. I'd take 90% of your original "artist that aren't in but should be" over a lot of these. Buffet not in as a performer is a travishamockery Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,410 Posted April 22, 2024 I enjoy Mariah Carey and she is a huge pop star. But is there anything rock and roll about her? The band that sticks out to me is Jethro Tull. Probably because I love them. But they’re unique, a mixture of hard rock, progressive rock, and folk. They had plenty of hits. Seems like an obvious choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,404 Posted April 22, 2024 45 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I enjoy Mariah Carey and she is a huge pop star. But is there anything rock and roll about her? The band that sticks out to me is Jethro Tull. Probably because I love them. But they’re unique, a mixture of hard rock, progressive rock, and folk. They had plenty of hits. Seems like an obvious choice. Yeah I'd put them in over Foreigner, Peter Frampton and others. Frampton had three hit songs off one live album but otherwise didn't do chit. I'd say my six albums are all better than his studio albums. Glad Ozzy got in. He's had a tremendous solo career, but Robert Plant has had a better one and deserves to be in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,896 Posted April 22, 2024 1 hour ago, jerryskids said: A Tribe Called Quest? Is that a DEI entry? I couldn't name a single song of theirs, and looking them up, this was in my wheelhouse of music. I'd take 90% of your original "artist that aren't in but should be" over a lot of these. Buffet not in as a performer is a travishamockery They are a pretty influential hip hop band. I don’t know how deep the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame goes but they should be in there. Kind of surprised Erik B and Rakim aren’t in. Weird that Dave Mathews isn’t in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,288 Posted April 22, 2024 2 minutes ago, thegeneral said: They are a pretty influential hip hop band. I don’t know how deep the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame goes but they should be in there. Kind of surprised Erik B and Rakim aren’t in. Weird that Dave Mathews isn’t in. Dave Matthews Band Among 2024 Rock Hall of Fame Inductees Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,896 Posted April 22, 2024 4 minutes ago, Gepetto said: Dave Matthews Band Among 2024 Rock Hall of Fame Inductees Thought it was weird they weren’t in. People go nuts for them, been around forever, still really active. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,288 Posted April 22, 2024 33 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Thought it was weird they weren’t in. People go nuts for them, been around forever, still really active. yea, I agree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,926 Posted April 22, 2024 43 minutes ago, thegeneral said: They are a pretty influential hip hop band. I don’t know how deep the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame goes but they should be in there. Kind of surprised Erik B and Rakim aren’t in. Weird that Dave Mathews isn’t in. Wow your music sucks. Enjoy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,896 Posted April 22, 2024 30 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Wow your music sucks. Enjoy! You seem like a cool guy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,739 Posted April 22, 2024 Dave Matthew fans are 100% liberals. The biggest D-Bag fans you'll ever meet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,699 Posted April 22, 2024 This process is so strange. Mumble rappers like Jay-Z are in but Jimmy Buffett wasn’t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,578 Posted April 22, 2024 On 2/11/2024 at 1:31 PM, Strike said: No one knows anything Sinead O'connor did other than "Nothing compares 2 u", The Pope thinks differently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,578 Posted April 22, 2024 9 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: I enjoy Mariah Carey and she is a huge pop star. But is there anything rock and roll about her? Geta clue grampy. today 1/2 the bands in aren't rock and roll. ALL HALL OF FAMES SUCK AND HAVE BEEN ROONED!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,115 Posted April 22, 2024 1 hour ago, Tree of Knowledge said: This process is so strange. Mumble rappers like Jay-Z are in but Jimmy Buffett wasn’t. JayZ stinks, but JB stinks as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
