June 27 Presidential debate

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

This election simply again is a referendum on a personality and not policy. People are either voting for Trump because they "like him" or against him because they "hate him"

Biden didn't do anything to assuage fears that Democrats had about him and he wasn't going to win a bunch of people over to his side even if he had an extremely lucid debate last night. 

Trump lied like crazy about stuff last night and at one point even said he talked to Putin after the invasion of the Ukraine and Putin told him this was "his dream." But people who like Trump don't care that he lies or will increase the debt- he "tells it like it is."

Again- this can't be the two best options we have for President. The people should rally against both parties for putting this slop forward but instead they get suckered into trading barbs pretending one person is considerably better than the other on random corners of the Internet

[BeachGuy23 642]

33 minutes ago, lod001 said:

Cnn reporting that the biden admin says joe is not going to drop out. They say they have a plan that has worked once and will work again. Here it is.

https://x.com/JamesPleickhar2/status/1775978277762400535

 

Here's an idea.  Let's continue with a plan that hasn't worked since 2020...

Freaking democratic morons.

They deserve what they're about to get.

[Cdub100 3,909]

50 minutes ago, lod001 said:

That is correct and they kept making up new rules hoping he would then decline but he never took the bait because he, along with everyone not brainwashed, knew biden would collapse  in a debate.

Gutterboy mocked trump when he said "art of the deal"

What a retard.

[RLLD 4,230]

15 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

This election simply again is a referendum on a personality and not policy. People are either voting for Trump because they "like him" or against him because they "hate him"

Biden didn't do anything to assuage fears that Democrats had about him and he wasn't going to win a bunch of people over to his side even if he had an extremely lucid debate last night. 

Trump lied like crazy about stuff last night and at one point even said he talked to Putin after the invasion of the Ukraine and Putin told him this was "his dream." But people who like Trump don't care that he lies or will increase the debt- he "tells it like it is."

Again- this can't be the two best options we have for President. The people should rally against both parties for putting this slop forward but instead they get suckered into trading barbs pretending one person is considerably better than the other on random corners of the Internet

Trotting out any untruths Trump stated as some differentiator is dishonesty......both men lie equitably.....so no, not going to sway anyone

[BeachGuy23 642]

46 minutes ago, lod001 said:

Cnn reporting that the biden admin says joe is not going to drop out. They say they have a plan that has worked once and will work again. Here it is.

https://x.com/JamesPleickhar2/status/1775978277762400535

 

Here's an idea.  Let's continue with a plan that hasn't worked since 2020...

Freaking democratic morons.

They deserve what they're about to get.

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

5 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Trotting out any untruths Trump stated as some differentiator is dishonesty......both men lie equitably.....so no, not going to sway anyone

They did not lie anywhere close to equitably last night. But again- to people like you who are dyed in the wool it doesn't matter. You slurp what you get. 

[BirdGang 385]

19 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Here's an idea.  Let's continue with a plan that hasn't worked since 2020...

Freaking democratic morons.

They deserve what they're about to get.

Yeah you do.  

[TimHauck 2,876]

1 hour ago, Cdub100 said:

Wtf  

 

On 6/26/2024 at 11:07 AM, squistion said:

Only if the narrative is true that he has dementia and can't string two coherent sentences together.

And that is what we heard before The State Of The Union address, which he aced (see the spontaneous call and response segment with Republicans which obviously was not scripted).

 

On 3/7/2024 at 9:37 PM, zsasz said:

Popeye ate his spinach tonight.  He could prolly kick the collective asses of the SC tonight.  

 

On 3/7/2024 at 9:38 PM, Ron_Artest said:

Biden is b1tch slapping Magas

 

On 3/7/2024 at 10:08 PM, wiffleball said:

WAY TO GO JOE!!!!

 

 

On 3/7/2024 at 10:09 PM, thegeneral said:

Joe is on fire. You got to give it to him.

 

On 3/7/2024 at 10:15 PM, Hardcore troubadour said:

He’s kept it together. I don’t know about his diaper, but from what we could see he was fine. 

 

On 3/7/2024 at 10:17 PM, Pimpadeaux said:

MAGATURDS ARE CRYING TONIGHT!

 

On 3/7/2024 at 10:36 PM, Hardcore troubadour said:

Well, he gets a reprieve from doubts about his mental acuity after tonight. Now just keep him away from the press and stairs. 

 

On 3/7/2024 at 10:41 PM, IGotWorms said:

He did a great job

 

On 3/7/2024 at 10:45 PM, Ron_Artest said:

He didn't look senile.

He trashed Republicans.

WINNING!!!!

 

On 3/7/2024 at 10:49 PM, Gepetto said:

Biden did good tonight. Maybe Jimmy Carter was a worse President than Joe Biden. 

 

On 3/7/2024 at 10:52 PM, SUXBNME said:

Quite possibly, but credit where credit is due. He didn't fuk it up like most thought he would. 

 

On 3/7/2024 at 11:22 PM, jerryskids said:

Biden looked functional, so that's a win for him. That's where we are for the most powerful position in the world. We'll, other than Hungarian dictator of course.

 

On 3/8/2024 at 3:59 AM, Voltaire said:

Biden showed that he can still deliver a well-rehearsed long speech properly with a teleprompter. He handled himself fine with only a handful of small gaffes.

 

On 3/8/2024 at 5:25 AM, lickin_starfish said:

He seemed coherent enough to be indicted for stealing classified documents.

 

On 3/8/2024 at 8:53 AM, The Psychic Observer said:

If you're an independent/undecided, President Biden checked all the boxes.  He didn't look sleepy or confused, he sounded presidential and feisty and he put forth a common sense agenda.  Makes you feel better about voting for him.

 

On 3/8/2024 at 8:57 AM, RLLD said:

I think Biden did a pretty good job.  It was a little more tilted toward a campaign event, and a little too divisive....but I felt his performance was at least at the level of Michael Douglas.

 

On 3/8/2024 at 9:48 AM, RLLD said:

Agree.  But I frankly did not think he had it in him to do as well as he did, I was impressed.

 

On 3/8/2024 at 10:58 AM, Engorgeous George said:

I give him credit, he was able to get through the matter without falling, visibly wetting himself, or having a stroke.  His opponents set the bar low and he got over it without  falling and needing Secret Service help to get back up.

 

[RLLD 4,230]

2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

They did not lie anywhere close to equitably last night. But again- to people like you who are dyed in the wool it doesn't matter. You slurp what you get. 

Last night, yesterday; the last year......pretending Trump is "the liar" when we have just as much for Biden is just being dishonest....  I bet, we could find another politician who lies as well...

Its not an effective tactic, you would be better served by highlighting policy issues.

[MDC 7,429]

20 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Here's an idea.  Let's continue with a plan that hasn't worked since 2020...

Freaking democratic morons.

They deserve what they're about to get.

I’m cornfused.

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

7 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Here's an idea.  Let's continue with a plan that hasn't worked since 2020...

Freaking democratic morons.

They deserve what they're about to get.

Two things to note- a poll last night said only 5% of people were changing their vote based on the debate- it didn't indicate which side the person was moving to. 14% said they were reconsidering- but obviously not changing yet. 81% said they were unchanged....so the debate did really very little damage and with the 4th coming and Trump's sentencing hearings- it won't last long in the media. 

For Democrats though there might be benefit in Biden losing to clear their deck because they have a deeper bench ready to go either as early as November or in 4 years- just off the top of the head you have Newsom, Whitmer, and Shapiro. I'm not sure who is there on the Republican side and I'm not sure any of the names listed as being Trump's running mate carry the excitement for the GOP. Like losing this year might (almost) guarantee you the Presidency from 2028-2036. Winning now means almost assuredly Harris has a lead in for the nom in 2028 and I don't think she carries excitement in or out of the party. 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

Last night, yesterday; the last year......pretending Trump is "the liar" when we have just as much for Biden is just being dishonest....  I bet, we could find another politician who lies as well...

Its not an effective tactic, you would be better served by highlighting policy issues.

If person A lies 40 times and person B lies 15 times- that isn't equitably. Sorry. it just isn't

[Ron 'Tator Salad' White 120]

Biden:

gurgle gurgle uhhhh

[edjr 6,592]

42 minutes ago, Gladiators said:

Keep your nieces in separate rooms this summer.

mums the word

[Jose M 125]

How the Republicans thought Trump did:

 

The Dems didn't even come out into the spin room that I saw.  Anyone have a video of their green room?

[RLLD 4,230]

2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

If person A lies 40 times and person B lies 15 times- that isn't equitably. Sorry. it just isn't

Dont care who lied more last night, both men lie...have lied....though, I have to admit Biden's lies have been more harmful.....

So to throw out the "he lied!"  mantra only really feeds your need for something to feed your hate for the person..... its just not useful.....

[Voltaire 5,316]

1 hour ago, RLLD said:

 

Cenk makes a relieivng point. The people who control Brandon''s nonfunctional outstanding, keenly-alert brain and dignified listening pose will lose their jobs if he's replaced by somebody else so they will hopefully insulate him and encourage him to weather the storm rather than listen to the noise to replace him.

I hope. I still think this debate was way to early. Team Trump should have never agreed to debate this wonderful, fully-functional genius before the Dems officially nominated him at their convention.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

38 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

This election simply again is a referendum on a personality and not policy. People are either voting for Trump because they "like him" or against him because they "hate him"

Biden didn't do anything to assuage fears that Democrats had about him and he wasn't going to win a bunch of people over to his side even if he had an extremely lucid debate last night. 

Trump lied like crazy about stuff last night and at one point even said he talked to Putin after the invasion of the Ukraine and Putin told him this was "his dream." But people who like Trump don't care that he lies or will increase the debt- he "tells it like it is."

Again- this can't be the two best options we have for President. The people should rally against both parties for putting this slop forward but instead they get suckered into trading barbs pretending one person is considerably better than the other on random corners of the Internet

Not really.  Many of us don't like Trump because of policy.  Yes he's a complete toilet of a person, but his policies are also sh1t.

[Jose M 125]

6 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

If person A lies 40 times and person B lies 15 times- that isn't equitably. Sorry. it just isn't

Sure it is if you assign weight and magnitude to them.  For example, Biden said women around the country are being raped by their sisters.   

You loose.  

 

[Gladiators 1,990]

8 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

They did not lie anywhere close to equitably last night. But again- to people like you who are dyed in the wool it doesn't matter. You slurp what you get. 

I thought you only watched maybe 5 minutes of it.  Was that lie?

[Voltaire 5,316]

Cenk says "there isn't a sane person alive who watched that debate and wants Joe Biden to be our candidate."

I think this needs fact checking.

I'm alive, I like to think I'm sane, and I've overjoyed doing cartwheels totally thinking with 100% certainty that Biden should be their candidate.

[TimHauck 2,876]

12 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Two things to note- a poll last night said only 5% of people were changing their vote based on the debate- it didn't indicate which side the person was moving to. 14% said they were reconsidering- but obviously not changing yet. 81% said they were unchanged....so the debate did really very little damage and with the 4th coming and Trump's sentencing hearings- it won't last long in the media. 

For Democrats though there might be benefit in Biden losing to clear their deck because they have a deeper bench ready to go either as early as November or in 4 years- just off the top of the head you have Newsom, Whitmer, and Shapiro. I'm not sure who is there on the Republican side and I'm not sure any of the names listed as being Trump's running mate carry the excitement for the GOP. Like losing this year might (almost) guarantee you the Presidency from 2028-2036. Winning now means almost assuredly Harris has a lead in for the nom in 2028 and I don't think she carries excitement in or out of the party. 

It’s probably safe to assume that most of that 5% was moving away from Biden (even if not voting for Trump).  If reflective of the country, isn’t that be pretty significant? 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

20 minutes ago, Jose M said:

Sure it is if you assign weight and magnitude to them.  For example, Biden said women around the country are being raped by their sisters.   

You loose.  

 

"You loose"?

18 minutes ago, Gladiators said:

I thought you only watched maybe 5 minutes of it.  Was that lie?

I did watch 5 minutes. I know this will be foreign to you but I read stuff about the debate and read through a transcript of the debate.

Reading is something people do where they find a story and sound out letters in patterns that form words.

HTH

8 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

It’s probably safe to assume that most of that 5% was moving away from Biden (even if not voting for Trump).  If reflective of the country, isn’t that be pretty significant? 

I would imagine a strong portion of that 5% is moving from Biden to Trump. I would also say it's June- that can change yet. 

But without breaking down the numbers fully I would say there is a good chance a 5% swing could change the election result. 

[RLLD 4,230]

Maybe now, the poor guy (Biden) can go get the rest he needs.   All this effort to prop that poor guy up just to prevent Trump is.....sad......

[Voltaire 5,316]

Jimmy Cliff - I Can See Clearly Now (Video Version) (youtube.com)

 

[Jose M 125]

13 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

"You loose"?

Yeah, your brain.  JFC 

[Voltaire 5,316]

[Hardcore troubadour 15,435]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

This election simply again is a referendum on a personality and not policy. People are either voting for Trump because they "like him" or against him because they "hate him"

Biden didn't do anything to assuage fears that Democrats had about him and he wasn't going to win a bunch of people over to his side even if he had an extremely lucid debate last night. 

Trump lied like crazy about stuff last night and at one point even said he talked to Putin after the invasion of the Ukraine and Putin told him this was "his dream." But people who like Trump don't care that he lies or will increase the debt- he "tells it like it is."

Again- this can't be the two best options we have for President. The people should rally against both parties for putting this slop forward but instead they get suckered into trading barbs pretending one person is considerably better than the other on random corners of the Internet

That first sentence is a slice of golden idiocy.  Yeah, there’s no difference on policy.  Lol. 

[Gladiators 1,990]

14 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I did watch 5 minutes. I know this will be foreign to you but I read stuff about the debate and read through a transcript of the debate.

Reading is something people do where they find a story and sound out letters in patterns that form words.

HTH

Oh, you read stuff about the debate?  Did you then go and fact check everything in order to determine the lies weren't equitable?  Can you give us a rundown of your work to prove the lies weren't equitable?

You read a transcript of the debate?  That must have been interesting.  How did they fill in all of Biden's incoherent mumbling?

[IGotWorms 4,058]

3 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

I watched maybe 5 minutes and saw Joe coming off as badly as I've seen him look in a debate and Trump lying through his teeth multiple times.

I thought what I've thought for the past 4 or 5 months now; "In the greatest country in the world- these two guys are the best options we can come up with for President?" 

All reports say Biden came off better in the last 10-15 minutes then he did prior to that but I was watching Beverly Hills Cop II by that point. 

He started as badly as possible. It was horrific.

He ended almost equally as bad, moderators were telling him “you’ve got 82 seconds left” (on a two minute answer) “is there anything you’d like to add?” And he couldn’t, because he couldn’t remember what he was supposed to say or what the issue was or probably even where he was.

But yeah, for about half an hour in the middle he was meh.

Hooray.

It was an unmitigated disaster.

Trump did lie his ass off all night and came across like a lunatic at times, so that helped, but bottom line is Biden showed he is absolutely not up for four more years. Hell he’s probably not up for today  

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

That first sentence is a slice of golden idiocy.  Yeah, there’s no difference on policy.  Lol. 

You were able to read a sentence? Good for you. Progress. Soon you'll be able to stay on a topic and maybe even post a link supporting something you say. I know it took 5 years and people with an IQ of 40 advance faster than you but you are getting there.

1.) If Biden had been lucid and crushed Trump last night would you switch your vote?

2.) Are you happy these are the two best options we have for President?

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

2 minutes ago, Gladiators said:

Oh, you read stuff about the debate?  Did you then go and fact check everything in order to determine the lies weren't equitable?  Can you give us a rundown of your work to prove the lies weren't equitable?

You read a transcript of the debate?  That must have been interesting.  How did they fill in all of Biden's incoherent mumbling?

More interesting that watching the debate because I didn't have to watch the debate. Ellipsis is how they filled in some things I would guess you are referring to as "incoherent mumbling." But there were also spots where they just did it verbatim. It doesn't read any better than I imagine it looked live. 

I did fact check things. Trump lied on: multiple things related to January 6th, multiple things on taxes, climate change, abortion issues, Russia, Biden calling people "super predators", stuff related to migrants, "we had the greatest economy in history", the George Floyd protests.

Biden lied about insulin price caps, what Trump said about bleach, military deaths under him, and the historians calling Trump the worst president ever.

Those are the big ones I noted. I didn't get into all the little things so 9 to 4 in favor of Trump lies (with putting all the individual lies in one heading). So yeah- almost twice as many from Trump. But apparently that is "equitably" to some here.

[Jose M 125]

absolutely brutal

 

 

[Jose M 125]

Hey Guys I didn't watch it, but, I read about it and counted more lies for Trump.  So there.  Ha Ha!   

[Hardcore troubadour 15,435]

I vote based on policy.  Trump is gross. I think I’ve said that or similar about fifty times here. Libtards make things up and go with it. It’s called self delusion.  Mooney is in its grasp. 

[Baker Boy 1,699]

13 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

You were able to read a sentence? Good for you. Progress. Soon you'll be able to stay on a topic and maybe even post a link supporting something you say. I know it took 5 years and people with an IQ of 40 advance faster than you but you are getting there.

1.) If Biden had been lucid and crushed Trump last night would you switch your vote?

2.) Are you happy these are the two best options we have for President?

No, Biden‘s policies are terrible for this country so I cannot vote for him.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,435]

Just now, Jose M said:

Hey Guys I didn't watch it, but, I read about it and counted more lies for Trump.  So there.  Ha Ha!   

Hilarious. 

[Jose M 125]

This just in - Biden was wearing an earpiece!

 

[nobody 2,673]

1 hour ago, GutterBoy said:

Not really.  Many of us don't like Trump because of policy.  Yes he's a complete toilet of a person, but his policies are also sh1t.

Is Biden not a toilet of a person?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,435]

Just now, Jose M said:

This just in - Biden was wearing an earpiece!

 

If that is true, holy shitt. Not that he’s going to be asked about it.