June 27 Presidential debate

[Hardcore troubadour 15,457]

Trump referred to MS-13 as animals. Which they are. CNN said he called immigrants animals. Amd libtards here repeated it. Still do.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,457]

18 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Why’d Trump agree to it then?

Can’t agree then whine about it

I merely stated a fact. It resulted in you being upset. You should look into that. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,457]

12 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Tapper said Trump used the same language as Hitler, he didn't refer to him as Hitler.  And Trump did use Hitler's language when he talked about mexicans poisoning the blood of our country.  Can't deny of that.

Do you know what the phrase form or fashion means? I purposely wrote that so idiots wouldn’t come with the nonsense. It didn’t work.  

[thegeneral 3,218]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Trump referred to MS-13 as animals. Which they are. CNN said he called immigrants animals. Amd libtards here repeated it. Still do.  

I love it when he said the judge couldn’t rule fairly with him…because he’s a Mexican. 

[RLLD 4,237]

As I mentioned previously, Trump needs to pose questions to Biden as part of his delivery. CNN is firmly a propaganda outlet for Democrats, and they will manipulate the entire event to benefit Biden.  Trump can offset this to some degree by throwing the questions CNN will avoid as they work diligently to protect him.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,457]

3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I love it when he said the judge couldn’t rule fairly with him…because he’s a Mexican. 

Whataboutism 

[thegeneral 3,218]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Whataboutism 

Yeah whatabout the time he said that and all you were like “golly that sounds right!”

[MDC 7,447]

26 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Trump spent the year saying Biden was brain dead, couldn't find his way off stage, etc.  Last week he was saying that Biden will be drugged and maybe he should just lose the debate on purpose, setting up his excuse for when he loses.

If he hasn’t already, Trump will start talking about muh fraud soon. If he loses, it will be muh fraud. And if he wins, he’d have won even bigger if not for muh fraud!  

We’ve all met people like this. Usually they’re in the 2-5 age range.

[seafoam1 3,036]

10 minutes ago, RLLD said:

As I mentioned previously, Trump needs to pose questions to Biden as part of his delivery. CNN is firmly a propaganda outlet for Democrats, and they will manipulate the entire event to benefit Biden.  Trump can offset this to some degree by throwing the questions CNN will avoid as they work diligently to protect him.

Yes. But Trump needs to frame it as "Unanswered question from the democrats...." and then give his answer to the question. Do that throughout the debate, and biden should short circuit if his juice cocktail they pump into him is a bit off. 

Trump can just give a 10 second response to the original liberal slanted question, and adjust it accordingly and then continue on that way. 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

37 minutes ago, MDC said:

If he hasn’t already, Trump will start talking about muh fraud soon. If he loses, it will be muh fraud. And if he wins, he’d have won even bigger if not for muh fraud!  

We’ve all met people like this. Usually they’re in the 2-5 age range.

My 7 year old learned this was poor sportsmanship this past soccer season.

I sympathize with Trump because my boy also struggled with it. But he got there eventually

Donald has had 71 more years and still can’t quite get it  

[Maximum Overkill 1,998]

15 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Donald has had 71 more years and still can’t quite get it 

How's this guy coming along?

 

 

[Dizkneelande 1,101]

Word on the street is Trump has been visiting nursing homes and has been debating with dementia patients to prep for the debate. 

[Fnord 2,280]

15 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

Word on the street is Trump has been visiting nursing homes and has been debating with dementia patients to prep for the debate. 

Was he able to win a debate with any of them? Or is he already whining about the performance enhancing meds they're all on?

[thegeneral 3,218]

28 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

Word on the street is Trump has been visiting nursing homes and has been debating with dementia patients to prep for the debate. 

Hopefully those people checked their wallets.

[seafoam1 3,036]

2 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Donald has had 71 more years and still can’t quite get it  

Well, if you are younger than 71, then maybe you have some hope. But you give no indication of it. Hopefully for your kid he's smarter than you. 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

17 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Hopefully for your kid he's smarter than you. 

Wouldn’t be tough!

[GutterBoy 2,899]

Rumors swirling that Trump isn't going to debate Thursday.

His handlers don't want him on stage, where he has done zero prep.  He's also talked about letting Biden win.  He's incoherent.

Ronny Johnson sent a letter to the white house dictor demanding a drug test.

Steve Bannon said today that CNN has to apologize or no debate 

What a train wreck

[thegeneral 3,218]

2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Rumors swirling that Trump isn't going to debate Thursday.

His handlers don't want him on stage, where he has done zero prep.  He's also talked about letting Biden win.  He's incoherent.

Ronny Johnson sent a letter to the white house dictor demanding a drug test.

Steve Bannon said today that CNN has to apologize or no debate 

What a train wreck

This has to be typical Trump drama.

There’s no way Trump (or Biden) could back out. It was always crazy to me people thinking Biden wouldn’t debate, it would be very, very bad for the candidate who refused to do it.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

This has to be typical Trump drama.

There’s no way Trump (or Biden) could back out. It was always crazy to me people thinking Biden wouldn’t debate, it would be very, very bad for the candidate who refused to do it.

This is trump.  If he tells everyone the debate is rigged, people will believe him and support him.

What's worse.  Skipping the debate because it's rigged or looking like a complete buffoon?

Trump could win if he hides from now until November.

[Mark Davis 398]

3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

This has to be typical Trump drama.

There’s no way Trump (or Biden) could back out. It was always crazy to me people thinking Biden wouldn’t debate, it would be very, very bad for the candidate who refused to do it.

Yeah, it's just all noise.  Anyone who wants 8:1 and they take Trump no shows I got whatever amount they want.

[MDC 7,447]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

This is trump.  If he tells everyone the debate is rigged, people will believe him and support him.

What's worse.  Skipping the debate because it's rigged or looking like a complete buffoon?

Trump could win if he hides from now until November.

The MAGA belief that normals are going to see that fat raving old man whining about his felony convictions and muh fraud and think “Sign me up for 4 more years of that!” has always been a laugh.

[thegeneral 3,218]

Anything missing from this list?

Debate - rigged
2020 election - rigged
2022 election - rigged 
Academy Awards - rigged
Pulitzers - rigged
Trump U case - rigged
Carroll trial - rigged
Election lawsuits - rigged
Criminal trial - rigged
Rudy trial - rigged
Bannon & Navarro trials - rigged
J6 Committee- rigged
Civil fraud trial - rigged
Polls - rigged

 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Anything missing from this list?

Debate - rigged
2020 election - rigged
2022 election - rigged 
Academy Awards - rigged
Pulitzers - rigged
Trump U case - rigged
Carroll trial - rigged
Election lawsuits - rigged
Criminal trial - rigged
Rudy trial - rigged
Bannon & Navarro trials - rigged
J6 Committee- rigged
Civil fraud trial - rigged
Polls - rigged

 

Mueller investigation?

2012 primary?

[easilyscan 928]

Has Trump ever attacked Biden on his record relating to taxation of Social Security ?

If not, he should. 

In the early 1980s, President Ronald Reagan, with congressional leaders, convened a bipartisan commission to study the issue. In 1983, that commission issued a report that formed the basis for amendments to the Social Security program. Among the recommendations in the report was that up to 50% of benefits be taxed as income for recipients who had income over a certain threshold. Congress set that threshold a little higher than recommended, at $25,000 for single people and $32,000 for married couples. 

The income thresholds weren’t indexed to inflation, though. So, as time went on, inflation would rise but the thresholds would remain the same. 

The bill that included that change to the program passed in a bipartisan vote in 1983. Biden was one of 88 senators who voted for it.

 

10 years later, in 1993, Congress passed a bill to raise that amount to 85%. 

Under this bill, single recipients with income over $34,000 and married couples making more than $44,000 could pay income tax on up to 85% of their SS benefits.

The tax bill, which included several controversial changes, was highly partisan. Not a single Republican voted in favor of it.

Biden voted for the bill, along with the majority of his Democratic colleagues in the Senate.

 

I'm almost certain that of all those who voted on it in 1983 and 1993, Biden is the only one still involved in politics.

It's bad enough that they decided to tax something that was supposed to be explicitly free from federal taxation, but to never go back & adjust those income levels for inflation is criminal.

Think about it this way. In 2024, Biden figures it's fine to begin taxing 85% of Social Security for a singles making over 34K a year, & couples over 44K, while giving huge tax breaks/loan forgiveness to singles making up to 125K & couples up to 250k. Those income figures for SS recipients were pretty damn high back in 1983, and still not bad in 1993.

31 years later, they aren't squat.

If Biden had an ounce of honor or integrity running through his veins, at the very least, he'd adjust those income levels for inflation.

Trump needs to attack him on this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mike Honcho 5,283]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

Anything missing from this list?

Debate - rigged
2020 election - rigged
2022 election - rigged 
Academy Awards - rigged
Pulitzers - rigged
Trump U case - rigged
Carroll trial - rigged
Election lawsuits - rigged
Criminal trial - rigged
Rudy trial - rigged
Bannon & Navarro trials - rigged
J6 Committee- rigged
Civil fraud trial - rigged
Polls - rigged

 

The Apprentice.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,457]

35 minutes ago, easilyscan said:

Has Trump ever attacked Biden on his record relating to taxation of Social Security ?

If not, he should. 

In the early 1980s, President Ronald Reagan, with congressional leaders, convened a bipartisan commission to study the issue. In 1983, that commission issued a report that formed the basis for amendments to the Social Security program. Among the recommendations in the report was that up to 50% of benefits be taxed as income for recipients who had income over a certain threshold. Congress set that threshold a little higher than recommended, at $25,000 for single people and $32,000 for married couples. 

The income thresholds weren’t indexed to inflation, though. So, as time went on, inflation would rise but the thresholds would remain the same. 

The bill that included that change to the program passed in a bipartisan vote in 1983. Biden was one of 88 senators who voted for it.

 

10 years later, in 1993, Congress passed a bill to raise that amount to 85%. 

Under this bill, single recipients with income over $34,000 and married couples making more than $44,000 could pay income tax on up to 85% of their SS benefits.

The tax bill, which included several controversial changes, was highly partisan. Not a single Republican voted in favor of it.

Biden voted for the bill, along with the majority of his Democratic colleagues in the Senate.

 

I'm almost certain that of all those who voted on it in 1983 and 1993, Biden is the only one still involved in politics.

It's bad enough that they decided to tax something that was supposed to be explicitly free from federal taxation, but to never go back & adjust those income levels for inflation is criminal.

Think about it this way. In 2024, Biden figures it's fine to begin taxing 85% of Social Security for a singles making over 34K a year, & couples over 44K, while giving huge tax breaks/loan forgiveness to singles making up to 125K & couples up to 250k. Those income figures for SS recipients were pretty damn high back in 1983, and still not bad in 1993.

31 years later, they aren't squat.

If Biden had an ounce of honor or integrity running through his veins, at the very least, he'd adjust those income levels for inflation.

Trump needs to attack him on this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Great post. Thanks. 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

45 minutes ago, easilyscan said:

Has Trump ever attacked Biden on his record relating to taxation of Social Security ?

If not, he should. 

In the early 1980s, President Ronald Reagan, with congressional leaders, convened a bipartisan commission to study the issue. In 1983, that commission issued a report that formed the basis for amendments to the Social Security program. Among the recommendations in the report was that up to 50% of benefits be taxed as income for recipients who had income over a certain threshold. Congress set that threshold a little higher than recommended, at $25,000 for single people and $32,000 for married couples. 

The income thresholds weren’t indexed to inflation, though. So, as time went on, inflation would rise but the thresholds would remain the same. 

The bill that included that change to the program passed in a bipartisan vote in 1983. Biden was one of 88 senators who voted for it.

 

10 years later, in 1993, Congress passed a bill to raise that amount to 85%. 

Under this bill, single recipients with income over $34,000 and married couples making more than $44,000 could pay income tax on up to 85% of their SS benefits.

The tax bill, which included several controversial changes, was highly partisan. Not a single Republican voted in favor of it.

Biden voted for the bill, along with the majority of his Democratic colleagues in the Senate.

 

I'm almost certain that of all those who voted on it in 1983 and 1993, Biden is the only one still involved in politics.

It's bad enough that they decided to tax something that was supposed to be explicitly free from federal taxation, but to never go back & adjust those income levels for inflation is criminal.

Think about it this way. In 2024, Biden figures it's fine to begin taxing 85% of Social Security for a singles making over 34K a year, & couples over 44K, while giving huge tax breaks/loan forgiveness to singles making up to 125K & couples up to 250k. Those income figures for SS recipients were pretty damn high back in 1983, and still not bad in 1993.

31 years later, they aren't squat.

If Biden had an ounce of honor or integrity running through his veins, at the very least, he'd adjust those income levels for inflation.

Trump needs to attack him on this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

You want trump to attack Biden over a vote he made 30 years ago?  Something Republican congresses, presidents and trump himself never addressed during those 30 years?  But Biden has no honor or integrity for ignoring this now?

STFU.

[seafoam1 3,036]

2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

You want trump to attack Biden over a vote he made 30 years ago?  Something Republican congresses, presidents and trump himself never addressed during those 30 years?  But Biden has no honor or integrity for ignoring this now?

STFU.

This guy is seriously damaged. 

[easilyscan 928]

47 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

You want trump to attack Biden over a vote he made 30 years ago?  Something Republican congresses, presidents and trump himself never addressed during those 30 years?  But Biden has no honor or integrity for ignoring this now?

STFU.

Looks like I hit a nerve. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,457]

Biden certainly hasn’t fixed social security like he said he would. Let me guess, not his fault, just like the border. Trump! 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

6 minutes ago, easilyscan said:

Looks like I hit a nerve. 

No nerve hit, you're just a very stupid person, but entertaining.

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

On 6/21/2024 at 9:17 AM, The Real timschochet said:

Here’s what’s funny: while you continue to pursue this lie, Trump has now abandoned it: 

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trump-expects-biden-worthy-debater-after-spending-months/story?id=111295571

Calls Biden a “worthy debater”. Says he can’t underestimate him. All of that talk about “senile and demented” it was all a show, yet another lie for the MAGA suckers that love him. Suckers like you. 

Biden started from a very low plateau and is clearly suffering the early to mid stages of dementia.  If you fail to see this you are deliberately failing to see.  This is not an endorsement of Trump who is below any bar I have for who should be President, but Biden is sinking.  He can barely walk without toppling over.  You can see each step he takes is a cognitive and balance challenge.  He loses his train of thought in nearly every other sentence.  He chews his words.  He is quick to anger.  He believes his own autobigraphical lies.  He is a mess.   

 

I believe Trump has started down this road as well but is a few stages short of where Biden currently is.

 

I don't believe anyone in good conscience can believe either man is likely to finish the term for which they are running .I find it irresponsible that each side is trying to push their guy over the finish line.

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

On 6/21/2024 at 10:34 AM, Mike Honcho said:

Why wouldn't he be a good debater, he's all high on the cocaine.

“He’s gonna be so pumped up, he’s gonna be pumped up,” Trump told the crowd. “You know all that stuff that was missing about a month ago from the White House? What happened? … Somebody didn’t pick up hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of cocaine. I wonder who that could’ve been. I don’t know. Actually, I think it was Joe.”

Trump apparently has no idea of the cost of cocaine.  I saw the remnants of an eight ball.  $250 to $300 depending and only around $100 left.

[easilyscan 928]

10 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

No nerve hit, you're just a very stupid person, but entertaining.

GutterBoy got separated from his parents @ the beach when he was 8 years old. He reached out to the lifeguard and I asked him if he could help him find them ?

Lifeguard "I don't know kid, there's so many places they could hide"

 

[The Real timschochet 6,782]

37 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Biden started from a very low plateau and is clearly suffering the early to mid stages of dementia.  If you fail to see this you are deliberately failing to see.  This is not an endorsement of Trump who is below any bar I have for who should be President, but Biden is sinking.  He can barely walk without toppling over.  You can see each step he takes is a cognitive and balance challenge.  He loses his train of thought in nearly every other sentence.  He chews his words.  He is quick to anger.  He believes his own autobigraphical lies.  He is a mess.   

 

I believe Trump has started down this road as well but is a few stages short of where Biden currently is.

 

I don't believe anyone in good conscience can believe either man is likely to finish the term for which they are running .I find it irresponsible that each side is trying to push their guy over the finish line.

Honestly I disagree with you. Biden has bad arthritis which is why he has trouble walking. But I haven’t seen any indication that his mind is affected or that there is any kind of mental dementia. I just don’t see it. 

[The Real timschochet 6,782]

53 minutes ago, easilyscan said:

Looks like I hit a nerve. 

I actually think your criticism of Biden may be a fair one. But Trump will never raise it because that would involve a substantive discussion about Social Security and the debt in general, and I don’t believe Trump is capable of a serious wonklike issue related discussion of that sort. I don’t think he understands it. 

[edjr 6,599]

2 hours ago, Mike Honcho said:

The Apprentice.

  was he a contestant?

[easilyscan 928]

15 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I actually think your criticism of Biden may be a fair one. But Trump will never raise it because that would involve a substantive discussion about Social Security and the debt in general, and I don’t believe Trump is capable of a serious wonklike issue related discussion of that sort. I don’t think he understands it. 

Appreciate that. Sure seems like it would be a great issue for the Trump camp to bring up. 

[lickin_starfish 1,938]

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[The Real timschochet 6,782]

14 hours ago, easilyscan said:

Appreciate that. Sure seems like it would be a great issue for the Trump camp to bring up. 

Conservatives shouldn’t ever bring up social security or debt issues until they come up with plans for fixing them. We already know that if Trump gets in he’s going to massively increase the debt, as he did last time even before Covid, and do nothing to address Social Security.