my 2 "nieces" Val and Henri are staying with us for the summer again

[edjr 6,592]

Gutterboy getting beat up like an WWF jobber from the 80s. 

[cmh6476 1,025]

They sound nice.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350]

7 minutes ago, edjr said:

Agreed. The thing is, both of their parents refuse to call them by what they want, and that is part of the issue. 

wait, so their parents both are against calling them trannies?  Then they need to be taken out of their school they are in

 

[kilroy69 1,250]

I am not anti-anyone. Literally. I just believe that if we are going to be talking about gender dysphoria that we should be talking about it for what is is.     Gender dysphoria(aka Trans) (GD), according to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM 5), is defined as a "marked incongruence between their experienced or expressed gender and the one they were assigned at birth."  It is a literal mental illness. 

[MDC 7,428]

1 hour ago, Mark Davis said:

I agree with you.  You can treat someone with common decency and respect without aiding a delusion.  It's not an either/or situation so that if you don't totally comply to that delusion that you are actively mistreating them.  If anything I think we mistreat them by turning a blind eye to their illness rather than trying to help.

Serious question: If a kid has legitimate gender dysphoria vs. just trying something on for size or going along with a trend etc., how do you help them? 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350]

3 minutes ago, MDC said:

Serious question: If a kid has legitimate gender dysphoria vs. just trying something on for size or going along with a trend etc., how do you help them? 

get them to a psychologist to try to get them the help they need, don't take them to a doctor who specializes in sterilization and mutilation

 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

1 hour ago, Nomad99 said:

You are the one that doesn't know anything about mental illness. What are the chances that two children, roughly the same age, from the same family unit, in the same house....have the Same mental illness at the Same time. This isn't mental illness....this is a social constuct that they have gotten sucked into or groomed into.

Well the Geek club has been telling me that trannys all have a mental illness and belong in mental institutions.  Now you're saying not true? Man am I so confused.  Maybe if there were another couple of hundred threads talking about it we could get to the bottom of it.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

53 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Fear of dogs and suicidal ideations don’t conflict with objective truths. Allowing people to create alternate reality helps no one. Anymore idiotic analogies?

What's the objective truth here?  That they don't want to be called by a certain name?

[GutterBoy 2,899]

53 minutes ago, edjr said:

Gutterboy getting beat up like an WWF jobber from the 80s. 

Page 1 you said I was right, page I'm getting beat up.  Grow a spine dooshbag.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

12 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

get them to a psychologist to try to get them the help they need, don't take them to a doctor who specializes in sterilization and mutilation

 

And if the psychologist says that it would be best for the kid to start calling them by the name they want to be called?

Fock you I'm not playing along with their mental illness?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350]

4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

And if the psychologist says that it would be best for the kid to start calling them by the name they want to be called?

Fock you I'm not playing along with their mental illness?

yep take them to another one, playing into ones mental illness is not a good thing

when my dad was in therapy and believing he was back in vietnam, his therapist didnt start calling everyone charlie

[MDC 7,428]

Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

yep take them to another one, playing into ones mental illness is not a good thing

 

That’s sort of where I was going. If a kid has incurable gender dysphoria, is there ever a point where a responsible parent considers that maybe their boy is a girl or vice versa? Even if they’re not considering any medical or hormone treatment?

I asked Mark because he’s among the more reasonable right leaning posters here. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350]

2 minutes ago, MDC said:

That’s sort of where I was going. If a kid has incurable gender dysphoria, is there ever a point where a responsible parent considers that maybe their boy is a girl or vice versa? Even if they’re not considering any medical or hormone treatment?

I asked Mark because he’s among the more reasonable right leaning posters here. 

thats the thing, is they can pretend all they want when they are adults, I think you get them all the psychological help you can til their 18 and then they can do that on their own

if someone has incurable multiple personality disorder, is the right answer to call them by whichever character they think they are?

 

 

[TimHauck 2,876]

1 hour ago, edjr said:

Agreed. The thing is, both of their parents refuse to call them by what they want, and that is part of the issue. 

So the mom isn’t a “flaming liberal”?

And why is that part of the issue?  The resident GC psychologists are saying calling them by their preferred name is participating in mental illness so refusing to do so is the correct course of action

[MDC 7,428]

1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

thats the thing, is they can pretend all they want when they are adults, I think you get them all the psychological help you can til their 18 and then they can do that on their own

if someone has incurable multiple personality disorder, is the right answer to call them by whichever character they think they are?

 

 

If we’re talking about people with legitimate gender dysphoria vs. playing make believe, following a trend etc. I don’t think they’re pretending. I think they’re legitimately wired differently. I’d say they have more in common with someone who is gay than someone with multiple personality disorder. 

I do think a pretty high % of “trans” kids are just confused, following a trend etc. But there are legitimate cases out there of people who were just born the wrong gender.

Fwiw I would be fine with a ban on any medical treatment including puberty blockers for minors under the age where they can make independent medical decisions, which is usually 16+ in most states.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350]

6 minutes ago, MDC said:

If we’re talking about people with legitimate gender dysphoria vs. playing make believe, following a trend etc. I don’t think they’re pretending. I think they’re legitimately wired differently. I’d say they have more in common with someone who is gay than someone with multiple personality disorder. 

I do think a pretty high % of “trans” kids are just confused, following a trend etc. But there are legitimate cases out there of people who were just born the wrong gender.

Fwiw I would be fine with a ban on any medical treatment including puberty blockers for minors under the age where they can make independent medical decisions, which is usually 16+ in most states.

Thats fair. Do you think doctors and parents who sterilize their kids should face criminal charges 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Thats fair. Do you think doctors and parents who sterilize their kids should face criminal charges 

I have sympathy for the parents caught up in this.  They are in a bad spot and are looking for some relief. Who I do not have sympathy for is the Gutterboys of the world and the medical ghouls that enable this. If anyone should get locked up it’s them. They are contemptuous. 

[MDC 7,428]

3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Thats fair. Do you think doctors and parents who sterilize their kids should face criminal charges 

I’d need to read about it to have an informed opinion.

[kilroy69 1,250]

27 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

 

when my dad was in therapy and believing he was back in vietnam, his therapist didnt start calling everyone charlie

Ding ding ding. We have a winner. 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Tell them if they’re going to be boys they have to get into hookers and eight balls with their uncle

[jerryskids 6,799]

21 minutes ago, MDC said:

If we’re talking about people with legitimate gender dysphoria vs. playing make believe, following a trend etc. I don’t think they’re pretending. I think they’re legitimately wired differently. I’d say they have more in common with someone who is gay than someone with multiple personality disorder. 

I do think a pretty high % of “trans” kids are just confused, following a trend etc. But there are legitimate cases out there of people who were just born the wrong gender.

Fwiw I would be fine with a ban on any medical treatment including puberty blockers for minors under the age where they can make independent medical decisions, which is usually 16+ in most states.

I agree with this, although I don't want to sidetrack on the age of consent.   

[GutterBoy 2,899]

10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I have sympathy for the parents caught up in this.  They are in a bad spot and are looking for some relief. Who I do not have sympathy for is the Gutterboys of the world and the medical ghouls that enable this. If anyone should get locked up it’s them. They are contemptuous. 

Go fock yourself dikwad, I don't enable any of this.  And of course you think I should be locked up for having an opinion different than yours.  POS.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

30 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Go fock yourself dikwad, I don't enable any of this.  And of course you think I should be locked up for having an opinion different than yours.  POS.

Ok. You shouldn’t get locked up. But a beating would be appropriate.  

[GutterBoy 2,899]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Ok. You shouldn’t get locked up. But a beating would be appropriate.  

Toxic Tough Guy threatening to beat people up online again.

[edjr 6,592]

2 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

wait, so their parents both are against calling them trannies?  Then they need to be taken out of their school they are in

 

They moved from Maskachusetts in 2021 to Florida. The older one was already Henri when they moved

[edjr 6,592]

53 minutes ago, MDC said:

I’d need to read about it to have an informed opinion.

This is the geek club. Stop talking nonsense

[iam90sbaby 2,611]

I wouldn't let the mentally disabled kids in my house around my completely normal son 

[iam90sbaby 2,611]

4 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

I don't know if it is or not to be honest, nor does it matter.  If a person tells you they are depressed, you don't tell them "no you're not you freak", same way if a girl tells you that they feel like a boy.  It's called common decency and treating others with respect, treating people the way you would want to be treated.

Awww you're such a nice guy 

[seafoam1 3,025]

11 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

I wouldn't let the mentally disabled kids in my house around my completely normal son 

Fock no. And who the hell just drops their kids off for the summer while you are on vacation without consulting you? Sounds like an edjr life issue. Because that doesn't occur in anyone's life I know.

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

22 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Toxic Tough Guy threatening to beat people up online again.

Technically he did not go so far as to threaaten to do so personally.  He suggested you could use a beating, but he did not state his willingness to administer it himself.  Perhaps he meant to go down to his neighborhood Home Depot and to employ a day laborer to do the task.  Maybe he is not a DIY'er

[GutterBoy 2,899]

11 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

Awww you're such a nice guy 

Thanks but I know I am.  That's why we're here right?  To make this world a better place?

[iam90sbaby 2,611]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

Thanks but I know I am.  That's why we're here right?  To make this world a better place?

Lying to people with mental disabilities about their mental disability makes the world a better place? 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said:

Lying to people with mental disabilities about their mental disability makes the world a better place? 

What's the lie?

[iam90sbaby 2,611]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

What's the lie?

Lol

[Mark Davis 398]

2 hours ago, MDC said:

Serious question: If a kid has legitimate gender dysphoria vs. just trying something on for size or going along with a trend etc., how do you help them? 

I would seek psychological help for them if it were someone in my family.  I realize everyone may not agree with me but I feel that we are treating something that is an absolute, whether you have XX chromosomes or XY chromosomes, as something fluid because it's easier to just go along than to address the issue.  If my daughter started seeing people in the room who weren't really there, I'd seek help for her.  I view this as no different.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

We were told to never lie to an emotionally disturbed person in the academy.  It was great advice. 

[BunnysBastatrds 2,442]

 Kilmer is confused

[MDC 7,428]

6 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

I would seek psychological help for them if it were someone in my family.  I realize everyone may not agree with me but I feel that we are treating something that is an absolute, whether you have XX chromosomes or XY chromosomes, as something fluid because it's easier to just go along than to address the issue.  If my daughter started seeing people in the room who weren't really there, I'd seek help for her.  I view this as no different.  

I’d seek help too. Maybe the psychologist or whoever helps your kid / family member become comfortable with whatever they’re going through. What if they come back and say your kid has legitimate gender dysphoria, the inside doesn’t match the outside and this isn’t treatable? What then?

Like I said earlier I see this as a lot closer to someone who’s gay than someone who is insane. I don’t think “I have guy parts but I feel I was born I to the wrong body” is necessarily the same as someone who sees dead people or whatever. 

[Gladiators 1,987]

5 hours ago, edjr said:

They have beat me down and now I call them by what they want. 

I was going to make a joke about getting your ass kicked by your nieces, but it actually happened.  Sorry Ed.

[DonS 3,292]

So does she/he use the typical English pronunciation ("Hen Ree") or the über ghey French pronunciation ("Ahn Ree" )?