Male golfer competing for LPGA spot

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5 minutes ago, MLCKAA said:

I didn’t comment on women’s athleticism at all.  I admire female athletes.  There are an awful lot of very big, very strong, very athletic, very successful male college players who can’t make the NBA.  It is conceivable and, in the current social environment, maybe probable, that one of those male players would transition and seek to play on a women’s team.  I think it would be problematic for the NCAA.
 

I’m merely saying I don’t think WNBA players would stand for it.

I assumed most WNBA players are trans.  

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3 minutes ago, MLCKAA said:

I didn’t comment on women’s athleticism at all.  I admire female athletes.  There are an awful lot of very big, very strong, very athletic, very successful male college players who can’t make the NBA.  It is conceivable and, in the current social environment, maybe probable, that one of those male players would transition and seek to play on a women’s team.  I think it would be problematic for the NCAA.
 

I’m merely saying I don’t think WNBA players would stand for it.

No, this is not conceivable.  No one is going to fake being a woman so they can make $75k a year in the WNBA.  I’m just saying the chances are extremely slim there will be someone who really thinks they’re a woman, and is good enough (even as a male) to compete in the WNBA (or NCAA D1).

But yes, I would agree that WNBA players probably wouldn’t stand for it (and I of course agree that biological males should not participate in women’s sports).  But as @MDC alluded to, glad we can all agree that Britney Griner is a woman (not saying you ever said otherwise). 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

Exempt from the Texas Longhorn rule.  Unfair!

[Alias Detective 1,389]

5 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

Angel Reese would throw a straight right hand into someone's Adam's Apple the minute they came down the lane. 

Violence is the answer huh?

[Sean Mooney 1,938]

1 minute ago, Alias Detective said:

Violence is the answer huh?

Yes sometimes it is. There should always be a threat of getting punched in the kisser. 

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4 hours ago, TimHauck said:

You guys must really not think very highly of women’s athleticism.  A dude going into the WNBA would have to be pretty good even as a male to make it in the WNBA.  Probably like NCAA D2 level IMO.  

I think you're wrong on this take.  Geno Auriema used to (and I believe he still does), have his team practice against men.  He'd put out fliers all over campus looking for guys to run practices and scrimmages against his girls.  He'd run 4 guys (random dudes), against 5 girls so that they can play against harder competition that what they'd see in games.  It was a way to get them to play better and get better themselves.  It worked to the point where it's more mainstream.  If an average junior college men's basketball team joined the WNBA, I wouldn't be shocked if they won the championship that year and every year they played.

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21 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I think you're wrong on this take.  Geno Auriema used to (and I believe he still does), have his team practice against men.  He'd put out fliers all over campus looking for guys to run practices and scrimmages against his girls.  He'd run 4 guys (random dudes), against 5 girls so that they can play against harder competition that what they'd see in games.  It was a way to get them to play better and get better themselves.  It worked to the point where it's more mainstream.  If an average junior college men's basketball team joined the WNBA, I wouldn't be shocked if they won the championship that year and every year they played.

4 randoms against 5 women.  Bwhahahahaha

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Just now, Alias Detective said:

4 randoms against 5 women.  Bwhahahahaha

Have you watched a WNBA game game? I've seen less bricks at a brick factory.

[patweisers44 815]

I guess we now know why @edjr hasnt been around here as much lately.

[TBayXXXVII 2,484]

31 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

4 randoms against 5 women.  Bwhahahahaha

Yup.  Now, they bigger dudes... and college guys ranging from 6'-2" to 6'-10" and big in size like 210 to 250.  But still, they were random dudes that can play school yard ball.  They had to at least be able to play basketball.  Rebecca Lobo said that after the first couple practices with the guys, they needed a few days off because they were drained physically and mentally.  But she said it worked.  They got better because of it.  I mean, they became a dynasty because of it.  There's nothing wrong with that, it's a great idea.  In the article I posted, it's become mainstream because it works.  I mean, no kidding, it has to.  If you have the ability to practice against people better than you, it's going to make you better.  The best way for women to do that, is to play against men.  It's common sense.  The thing is, when it comes to sports like basketball, soccer, tennis, etc, you can find random guys (obviously, they have to be able to play), almost anywhere, to practice against.

My nephew's girlfriend (they're 16 and in high school), plays soccer.  Her team practices against the boys middle school team.  When they scrimmage, they don't keep score... she says it's because they always lose to the boys.  Right now, her team is 7-0.

It's why I say, I think any junior college men's basketball team would dominate the WNBA.  There's guys that are 6'-4" that'll run right past these women and dunk on them.  When I was in high school, we had guys on our freshman team that were 6' and could dunk.  Come on, get out of here that 'they'd have to be D2 level'.

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1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

No, this is not conceivable.  No one is going to fake being a woman so they can make $75k a year in the WNBA.  I’m just saying the chances are extremely slim there will be someone who really thinks they’re a woman, and is good enough (even as a male) to compete in the WNBA (or NCAA D1).

But yes, I would agree that WNBA players probably wouldn’t stand for it (and I of course agree that biological males should not participate in women’s sports).  But as @MDC alluded to, glad we can all agree that Britney Griner is a woman (not saying you ever said otherwise). 

I think you and I are in agreement and we’re only miscommunicating due to the constraints of online messaging rather than conversing.

Have a good one.

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I can't think of a more selfish group of individuals than those like this guy. Born a man, but due to mental illness, convinced himself that he's female, & thinks it's OK to compete against real women.

He should be ashamed of himself

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1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

No, this is not conceivable.  No one is going to fake being a woman so they can make $75k a year in the WNBA.  I’m just saying the chances are extremely slim there will be someone who really thinks they’re a woman, and is good enough (even as a male) to compete in the WNBA (or NCAA D1).

But yes, I would agree that WNBA players probably wouldn’t stand for it (and I of course agree that biological males should not participate in women’s sports).  But as @MDC alluded to, glad we can all agree that Britney Griner is a woman (not saying you ever said otherwise). 

Why does it always go back to the chances of it happening?  Why cant we just all agree that this shouldnt happen and everyone be on board with it?  95% of the lefties here say they dont agree with it.  Id assume a high % of women athletes dont want it.  Those who dont care probably would if they ever were actually put in that situation.  

So whats holding us back from just universally not accepting it?  An overwhelming majority dont agree that men should play in womens sports.  Not sure why there is so much argument over these when in the end we almost all agree?  

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48 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Why does it always go back to the chances of it happening?  Why cant we just all agree that this shouldnt happen and everyone be on board with it?  95% of the lefties here say they dont agree with it.  Id assume a high % of women athletes dont want it.  Those who dont care probably would if they ever were actually put in that situation.  

So whats holding us back from just universally not accepting it?  An overwhelming majority dont agree that men should play in womens sports.  Not sure why there is so much argument over these when in the end we almost all agree?  

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8 hours ago, MDC said:

I think it’s nuts too, but I blame the LPGA. 

You should blame the people who push this agenda and the ones you vote for

[MDC 7,134]

4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

You should blame the people who push this agenda and the ones you vote for

Who’s the candidate I voted for that supports trans in lady sports? 

No need to answer, that’s a rhetorical question.  

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2 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Yup.  Now, they bigger dudes... and college guys ranging from 6'-2" to 6'-10" and big in size like 210 to 250.  But still, they were random dudes that can play school yard ball.  They had to at least be able to play basketball.  Rebecca Lobo said that after the first couple practices with the guys, they needed a few days off because they were drained physically and mentally.  But she said it worked.  They got better because of it.  I mean, they became a dynasty because of it.  There's nothing wrong with that, it's a great idea.  In the article I posted, it's become mainstream because it works.  I mean, no kidding, it has to.  If you have the ability to practice against people better than you, it's going to make you better.  The best way for women to do that, is to play against men.  It's common sense.  The thing is, when it comes to sports like basketball, soccer, tennis, etc, you can find random guys (obviously, they have to be able to play), almost anywhere, to practice against.

My nephew's girlfriend (they're 16 and in high school), plays soccer.  Her team practices against the boys middle school team.  When they scrimmage, they don't keep score... she says it's because they always lose to the boys.  Right now, her team is 7-0.

It's why I say, I think any junior college men's basketball team would dominate the WNBA.  There's guys that are 6'-4" that'll run right past these women and dunk on them.  When I was in high school, we had guys on our freshman team that were 6' and could dunk.  Come on, get out of here that 'they'd have to be D2 level'.

Can you share articles/interviews about the UConn women practicing with men?  I don’t doubt they did it and that it helped, but saying they “became a dynasty because of it” seems like a stretch.  I’d also be curious what kind of players these guys were.   Someone that goes to UConn but isn’t on the men’s team could still be about D2 level, so I don’t think our opinions are necessarily that far off.   And even junior college isn’t necessarily far off from D2.

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3 hours ago, MDC said:

Who’s the candidate I voted for that supports trans in lady sports? 

No need to answer, that’s a rhetorical question.  

Every liberal in politics. 

[MDC 7,134]

11 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Every liberal in politics. 

right

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14 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Can you share articles/interviews about the UConn women practicing with men?  I don’t doubt they did it and that it helped, but saying they “became a dynasty because of it” seems like a stretch.  I’d also be curious what kind of players these guys were.   Someone that goes to UConn but isn’t on the men’s team could still be about D2 level, so I don’t think our opinions are necessarily that far off.   And even junior college isn’t necessarily far off from D2.

It's common knowledge really, but here's one that took 3 seconds to find.

https://www.nhregister.com/news/article/UCONN-WOMEN-A-few-good-men-helping-Huskies-11552793.php

In the article there's a comment that Geno realized it's value before the '95 season.

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https://twitter.com/CookedByKD/status/1555615314263654403

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49 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

It's common knowledge really, but here's one that took 3 seconds to find.

https://www.nhregister.com/news/article/UCONN-WOMEN-A-few-good-men-helping-Huskies-11552793.php

In the article there's a comment that Geno realized its value before the '95 season.

My main question was how good the guys were that they brought in.  There are 3 guys mentioned in the article.  One is a D1 women’s coach, so decent chance he could have been a decent player if he went somewhere other than UConn, and they say one of the others was on a HS team that made the state finals.  These aren’t just “random dudes,” they’re likely pretty good players just not D1 level.   And even if they could dominate the women’s team, also keep in mind UConn is a step below the WNBA.

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2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

My main question was how good the guys were that they brought in.  There are 3 guys mentioned in the article.  One is a D1 women’s coach, so decent chance he could have been a decent player if he went somewhere other than UConn, and they say one of the others was on a HS team that made the state finals.  These aren’t just “random dudes,” they’re likely pretty good players just not D1 level.   And even if they could dominate the women’s team, also keep in mind UConn is a step below the WNBA.

That's what he did back then, he's been using kids ever since.  Go listen to an interview.  The original article I linked a few posts prior says that it's common in women's sports in general.  I don't know what the big secret is or why it's even bad.  I think it's a great idea.

 

Here's another one with UConn: https://www.nhregister.com/news/article/UCONN-WOMEN-A-few-good-men-helping-Huskies-11552793.php

"Welcome to the world of the male practice players, 15 UConn students finding an outlet to extend their basketball playing days.

The concept of using former high school boys' players enrolled at the school to push the powerhouse women's team was an idea hatched in the 1994-95 season, when starting point guard Jen Rizzotti asked if her future husband, a fellow UConn student, could take part in practice with some of his friends."

Rizzotti's idea was the catalyist for the trend.  Auriemma has been doing it ever since, especially when they have a short roster.  It's been going on for 30 years, that wasn't a one off.  Again, these are generally just students that they recruit on campus.  There's no scholarships, there's no pay, there's no credits, there's nothing.  These guys just volunteer.

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3 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

That's what he did back then, he's been using kids ever since.  Go listen to an interview.  The original article I linked a few posts prior says that it's common in women's sports in general.

 

Here's another one with UConn: https://www.nhregister.com/news/article/UCONN-WOMEN-A-few-good-men-helping-Huskies-11552793.php

"Welcome to the world of the male practice players, 15 UConn students finding an outlet to extend their basketball playing days.

The concept of using former high school boys' players enrolled at the school to push the powerhouse women's team was an idea hatched in the 1994-95 season, when starting point guard Jen Rizzotti asked if her future husband, a fellow UConn student, could take part in practice with some of his friends."

Rizzotti's idea was the catalyist for the trend.  Auriemma has been doing it ever since, especially when they have a short roster.  It's been going on for 30 years, that wasn't a one off.  Again, these are generally just students that they recruit on campus.  There's no scholarships, there's no pay, there's no credits, there's nothing.  These guys just volunteer.

Rizzotti’s future husband is the first guy I referenced above.

And you just linked the same article twice.

 

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1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Rizzotti’s future husband is the first guy I referenced above.

And you just linked the same article twice.

 

LOL, the first time I linked the wrong one. 

But, to the point, Rizzotti was there in '94.  The link is from 2011 with Maya Moore... meaning, the practice continued and still does.  There is no stock of D2 (or JUCO in your estimation), players every year on college campuses.  Auriemma has said in interviews that he goes to the gym looking for guys playing pick up games and asks them to practice with their team.  It's not a mystery.

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Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

LOL, the first time I linked the wrong one. 

But, to the point, Rizzotti was there in '94.  The link is from 2011 with Maya Moore... meaning, the practice continued and still does.  There is no stock of D2 (or JUCO in your estimation), players every year on college campuses.  Auriemma has said in interviews that he goes to the gym looking for guys playing pick up games and asks them to practice with their team.  It's not a mystery.

I wasn’t doubting that it happened, sorry I don’t follow women’s college basketball, I was just doubting that was “why they became a dynasty.”  Even in that article as you said they were emphasizing that they needed to do it that particular year because they had a bunch of players injured.  Which would imply it may not necessarily be a major part of their practice routine.  Even the one guy quoted says it was only “a couple days a week”

 

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17 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I wasn’t doubting that it happened, sorry I don’t follow women’s college basketball, I was just doubting that was “why they became a dynasty.”  Even in that article as you said they were emphasizing that they needed to do it that particular year because they had a bunch of players injured.  Which would imply it may not necessarily be a major part of their practice routine.  Even the one guy quoted says it was only “a couple days a week”

 

Then doubt away bud.  I'm taking Auriemma's word for it.

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51 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Then doubt away bud.  I'm taking Auriemma's word for it.

Auriemma has said practicing against men is why they became a dynasty?

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22 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Yup.  Now, they bigger dudes... and college guys ranging from 6'-2" to 6'-10" and big in size like 210 to 250.  But still, they were random dudes that can play school yard ball.  They had to at least be able to play basketball.  Rebecca Lobo said that after the first couple practices with the guys, they needed a few days off because they were drained physically and mentally.  But she said it worked.  They got better because of it.  I mean, they became a dynasty because of it.  There's nothing wrong with that, it's a great idea.  In the article I posted, it's become mainstream because it works.  I mean, no kidding, it has to.  If you have the ability to practice against people better than you, it's going to make you better.  The best way for women to do that, is to play against men.  It's common sense.  The thing is, when it comes to sports like basketball, soccer, tennis, etc, you can find random guys (obviously, they have to be able to play), almost anywhere, to practice against.

My nephew's girlfriend (they're 16 and in high school), plays soccer.  Her team practices against the boys middle school team.  When they scrimmage, they don't keep score... she says it's because they always lose to the boys.  Right now, her team is 7-0.

It's why I say, I think any junior college men's basketball team would dominate the WNBA.  There's guys that are 6'-4" that'll run right past these women and dunk on them.  When I was in high school, we had guys on our freshman team that were 6' and could dunk.  Come on, get out of here that 'they'd have to be D2 level'.

I'm sure I've parts of this story before but... I and some other guys played on our team through freshman year, but that coach was such a doosh that many of us quit.  Fast forward a few years, and we were shooting around in the gym after school when the girls HS team showed up for practice.  The coach, presumably not knowing our background, asked if we wanted to scrimmage his team.  They were one of the top teams in their league.  OK, if you want... we destroyed them.  Blocked shots or rebounds turned into fast break layups almost every time.

One of the stars of the team later challenged me to one on one.  OK, if you want... I just backed her down every time and scored layups.  I'm not a hooge dood (6', 155 at the time) but she was like 5'4" and 105, she had no chance against a guy who knew what he was doing.  We ended up dating after that, tho.    

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3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I'm sure I've parts of this story before but... I and some other guys played on our team through freshman year, but that coach was such a doosh that many of us quit.  Fast forward a few years, and we were shooting around in the gym after school when the girls HS team showed up for practice.  The coach, presumably not knowing our background, asked if we wanted to scrimmage his team.  They were one of the top teams in their league.  OK, if you want... we destroyed them.  Blocked shots or rebounds turned into fast break layups almost every time.

One of the stars of the team later challenged me to one on one.  OK, if you want... I just backed her down every time and scored layups.  I'm not a hooge dood (6', 155 at the time) but she was like 5'4" and 105, she had no chance against a guy who knew what he was doing.  We ended up dating after that, tho.    

But you’re talking about basically the same level for each gender - maybe slightly above average high school players.  Obviously the male is going to dominate.  Do you think you also could have dominated the #1 college women’s team at that time?

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2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Auriemma has said practicing against men is why they became a dynasty?

They won championship in '94-'95 with Rizotti.  They went 4 years without winning again and during that times, he had backed off that practice (not totally eliminating it, but scaling down a lot).  After winning with Sue Bird in the '99-00 season, they asked Auriemma what he thought the reason was, that they got over the hump after falling short so many years in a row.  He told them that the biggest factor was going back to practicing with guys regularly.  He said his girls got better because of the competition level.  He kept doing it and they kept winning.  Sue Bird's season was the first of 10 championships over 15 years.

[Fnord 2,051]

22 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

You should blame the people who push this agenda and the ones you vote for

That's it. I solemnly swear I will never vote for the LPGA again.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,946]

13 minutes ago, Fnord said:

That's it. I solemnly swear I will never vote for the LPGA again.

You voted for a guy that put tampons in the middle school boys bathroom. And you’re gonna do it again. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,484]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

I'm sure I've parts of this story before but... I and some other guys played on our team through freshman year, but that coach was such a doosh that many of us quit.  Fast forward a few years, and we were shooting around in the gym after school when the girls HS team showed up for practice.  The coach, presumably not knowing our background, asked if we wanted to scrimmage his team.  They were one of the top teams in their league.  OK, if you want... we destroyed them.  Blocked shots or rebounds turned into fast break layups almost every time.

One of the stars of the team later challenged me to one on one.  OK, if you want... I just backed her down every time and scored layups.  I'm not a hooge dood (6', 155 at the time) but she was like 5'4" and 105, she had no chance against a guy who knew what he was doing.  We ended up dating after that, tho.    

Well done (getting the girl). 

[jerryskids 6,571]

25 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Well done (getting the girl). 

Fun fact:  the guy she dated after me went on to become an all-American Big 10 offensive lineman, and play in the NFL for several years.  

He was bigger than me... on the top half at least.   

[jerryskids 6,571]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

But you’re talking about basically the same level for each gender - maybe slightly above average high school players.  Obviously the male is going to dominate.  Do you think you also could have dominated the #1 college women’s team at that time?

No.  I was at best D3 talent in basketball, though.

[Fnord 2,051]

48 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You voted for a guy that put tampons in the middle school boys bathroom. And you’re gonna do it again. 

Absolutely.

You're going to vote for a felonious conman that will happily demolish the constitution, the law, and anyone that stands against him. A felon whose close advisors in his ruinous prior administration tell you is unfit for office. You want to elect an autocrat.

So in comparison, I'm definitely okay with the tampons. A few pieces of cotton in the boys room doesn't seem like such a big deal given the alternative.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,946]

1 hour ago, Fnord said:

Absolutely.

You're going to vote for a felonious conman that will happily demolish the constitution, the law, and anyone that stands against him. A felon whose close advisors in his ruinous prior administration tell you is unfit for office. You want to elect an autocrat.

So in comparison, I'm definitely okay with the tampons. A few pieces of cotton in the boys room doesn't seem like such a big deal given the alternative.

What felony was he convicted of again?