Here come the tariffs

[Mike Honcho 5,087]

13 hours ago, thegeneral said:

Canada is sending choppers to the border and a “Fentanyl Czar”!

Thank God they are, I know I feel safer that the Canadian Cartels will finally be stopped. 

Quote

 

Just 0.2% of US border fentanyl seizures are at the Canadian border

Trump has lumped together the Canadian border and the Mexican border when talking about illegal fentanyl imports. The day after his inauguration in January, for example, he said, “The fentanyl coming through Canada is massive. The fentanyl coming through Mexico is massive.”

But there is a massive difference between the extent of the problem at the two borders.

Federal statistics show US border authorities seized 21,889 pounds of fentanyl in the 2024 fiscal year. Of that amount, 43 pounds were seized at the Canadian border — about 0.2% — compared with 21,148 pounds at the Mexican border, about 96.6%.

There’s no indication of any substantial change in the first three months of the 2025 fiscal year (October 2024 through December 2024). Of the 4,537 pounds of fentanyl seized by US border authorities during that period, 10 pounds, about 0.2%, were seized at the Canadian border, while 4,409 pounds, about 97.2%, were seized at the Mexican border.

It is true that the quantity of fentanyl seized at the Canadian border increased in fiscal year 2024. Just 2 pounds were seized there in fiscal year 2023, and 14 pounds were seized in fiscal year 2022. And, of course, even tiny quantities of fentanyl can be fatal.

Still, the US Drug Enforcement Administration’s 2024 National Drug Threat Assessment report did not even use the word “Canada.” It mentioned Mexico 86 times.

 

 

[Engorgeous George 2,123]

Just now, Mike Honcho said:

Thank God they are, I know I feel safer that the Canadian Cartels will finally be stopped. 

 

It's aboot time we got tough with those poutine eaters.  We will teach them.  How dare they be the world's best neighbors. 

[TrailGuy 552]

Crickets from the Magas!

They realize Daddy got played. 

[The Real timschochet 6,397]

4 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Rooting for China now.  Not surprising. You root against America and Americans all the time.  

Please link to me ever rooting for China. Please link to me ever rooting against America. Otherwise GFY

[The Girlfriend 208]

3 hours ago, TrailGuy said:

Crickets from the Magas!

They realize Daddy got played. 

Canada and Mexico sandwiched Trump in the middle and gave him a good spanking.

[CaptainObvious1 323]

3 minutes ago, The Girlfriend said:

Canada and Mexico sandwiched Trump in the middle and gave him a good spanking.

Turn you on, Gutter?

[Fnord 2,051]

3 hours ago, TrailGuy said:

Crickets from the Magas!

They realize Daddy got played. 

No they don't.

[thegeneral 2,889]

2 hours ago, The Girlfriend said:

Canada and Mexico sandwiched Trump in the middle and gave him a good spanking.

He got Lucky Pierred!

[The Girlfriend 208]

 

[KSB2424 3,148]

On 2/3/2025 at 9:16 PM, TrailGuy said:

Being a man involves telling the truth and not lying for other men.

Truth: he got nothing that Biden didn't already have.  But you never gave Biden a pat on the back.

FACTS NOT FEELZ BOYO!

Just signed back in to the Geek Club.  I do need some help here as I do not understand this post.  Apparently I cannot decipher Generation Z's on Meth speak.  What is a BOYO?

Maybe this needs to be a question on The Little Help forearm. 

[Tebok 298]

Man, I dunno about all this, but what I do know is I don't want to pay an arm and a leg for guacamole and Coronas on Cinco De Mayo, bros.

[jbycho 580]

Trump winning again.

The liberals are losing it. Still. 

[TrailGuy 552]

USPS has stopped accepting packages from China amid tariffs.

[League Champion 1,896]

3 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

USPS has stopped accepting packages from China amid tariffs.

 

[nobody 2,557]

On 2/3/2025 at 3:28 PM, The Girlfriend said:

Thinks he’s big deal! BTW, Jerry already outed me dumbass.

You don't seem like the Jonsey I remember.  The Jonsey I remember wouldn't try to hide.  Style is off.  You post more like oldmaid.

Jonsey I remember was confident. You post like someone trying to look confident.

[The Girlfriend 208]

25 minutes ago, nobody said:

You don't seem like the Jonsey I remember.  The Jonsey I remember wouldn't try to hide.  Style is off.  You post more like oldmaid.

Jonsey I remember was confident. You post like someone trying to look confident.

Sup? I don’t know about an oldmaid, but I do know about Candice.

[thegeneral 2,889]

The circus is back in town. Bozo Donald up there screaming next to the bearded lady!

https://x.com/rickspence/status/1886879085718356349?s=46&t=0YXe9oUqqYEnHOHU8BsZkQ

[Gepetto 1,286]

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/05/usps-says-it-will-resume-accepting-inbound-packages-from-china-hong-kong.html

USPS said it will resume accepting inbound mail and packages from China and Hong Kong Posts, just hours after it suspended service from those regions.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,913]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

The circus is back in town. Bozo Donald up there screaming next to the bearded lady!

https://x.com/rickspence/status/1886879085718356349?s=46&t=0YXe9oUqqYEnHOHU8BsZkQ

That’s a good one. 

[Mike Hunt 261]

On 2/2/2025 at 6:04 PM, TrailGuy said:

Down futures down 500

The crash you were hoping for did not transpire, actually it is up. 

[MLCKAA 540]

I think the tariffs on China could be good for the environment.

[League Champion 1,896]

9 hours ago, thegeneral said:

The circus is back in town. Bozo Donald up there screaming next to the bearded lady!

https://x.com/rickspence/status/1886879085718356349?s=46&t=0YXe9oUqqYEnHOHU8BsZkQ

Are you sad that he's exposing you people for what you really are? 

[thegeneral 2,889]

11 minutes ago, League Champion said:

Are you sad that he's exposing you people for what you really are? 

Laughing that you all buy all the stuff this grifter says. He just makes the shet up

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

The European Union has decided to lower tariffs on American car imports as a strategic move to prevent a trade war with the United States.

It will decrease the rate from 10% to 2.5%, per FT. Winning.

[The Real timschochet 6,397]

4 hours ago, Dizkneelande said:

The European Union has decided to lower tariffs on American car imports as a strategic move to prevent a trade war with the United States.

It will decrease the rate from 10% to 2.5%, per FT. Winning.

This is very good news. If Trump is ultimately responsible for actually lowering tariffs more power to him (on this issue.) 

[HotRod 69]

5 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

This is very good news. If Trump is ultimately responsible for actually lowering tariffs more power to him (on this issue.) 

Art of the deal

[Voltaire 5,181]

On 2/5/2025 at 7:36 PM, thegeneral said:

Laughing that you all buy all the stuff this grifter says. He just makes the shet up

Let's all laugh together. I'll get some party music and we can enjoy everything going on.

[The Real timschochet 6,397]

More tariffs today: 

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/10/economy/tariffs-trump-explained/index.html

Tariffs are bad. Tariffs hurt the economy. Trump’s method of suddenly announcing them also hurts the economy because it creates uncertainty. 

On the other hand, I will concede that if the threat of tariffs actually ends up creating less tariffs and better trade conditions for us, then this could end up being a good thing. But I’m not convinced that this is the case. Guess we will find out one way or the other. 

[supermike80 1,799]

I absolutely 100% believe that retaliatory tariffs against those that levy tariffs against us is the right move.  We stand around like dopes while the rest of the frickin world protects their own and the minute we try to do the same thing, we get labeled as the bad guys.

[The Real timschochet 6,397]

19 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

I absolutely 100% believe that retaliatory tariffs against those that levy tariffs against us is the right move.  We stand around like dopes while the rest of the frickin world protects their own and the minute we try to do the same thing, we get labeled as the bad guys.

What difference does any of this make (eg who the good guys and bad guys are) if prices go up as a result of the tariffs? 

[RLLD 4,143]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

What difference does any of this make (eg who the good guys and bad guys are) if prices go up as a result of the tariffs? 

I get this and this was more or less my position when Biden was ramping up inflation.  Now, for all the grief I give Biden about his mistakes I have to admit that while he sought to eradicate most of Trumps policies, he did keep the tariffs and never changed them, and I think that was a rather smart move.

In order to fix our issues, this is the way, there is no magic way to fix things without some effort.  We are here, cannot undo the past, the pain that built up over the last four years will now have to be wrung out......it sucks, but this is all part of the medicine.

[supermike80 1,799]

8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

What difference does any of this make (eg who the good guys and bad guys are) if prices go up as a result of the tariffs? 

Well...You are assuming, of course, that all the world's tariffs stay in place.  Maybe they will, maybe they won't.   Let's not for a minute think the world craves and in many cases needs the USA as a place to market their products.

If the world wants to market here to keep their business afloat they have three choices.  1) Do nothing and take the chance and have to compete against countries with no tariffs on price. 2) Put pressure on their local governments to drop or lower their tariffs or 3) Drop their prices 10% to offset the tariff costs.   

I for one am willing to pay a little more to support retaliatory tariffs.  I think it's important.  You keep talking about free trade free trade, but only the US.  You seem like you don't care about other countries levying them on us.  We will never ever get to a free trade situation if one country can levy them with no repercussions.   

[The Real timschochet 6,397]

17 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Well...You are assuming, of course, that all the world's tariffs stay in place.  Maybe they will, maybe they won't.   Let's not for a minute think the world craves and in many cases needs the USA as a place to market their products.

If the world wants to market here to keep their business afloat they have three choices.  1) Do nothing and take the chance and have to compete against countries with no tariffs on price. 2) Put pressure on their local governments to drop or lower their tariffs or 3) Drop their prices 10% to offset the tariff costs.   

I for one am willing to pay a little more to support retaliatory tariffs.  I think it's important.  You keep talking about free trade free trade, but only the US.  You seem like you don't care about other countries levying them on us.  We will never ever get to a free trade situation if one country can levy them with no repercussions.   

You’re right to an extent. I want free trade from the USA no matter what other nations do. I think it hurts us to do otherwise. I don’t believe the other nations will give in, and change their habits; history has shown they will only retaliate more. In any case I don’t want to punish the American consumer. You may be willing to pay more but too many businesses are hurt that way. 

[shadrap 220]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You’re right to an extent. I want free trade from the USA no matter what other nations do. I think it hurts us to do otherwise. I don’t believe the other nations will give in, and change their habits; history has shown they will only retaliate more. In any case I don’t want to punish the American consumer. You may be willing to pay more but too many businesses are hurt that way. 

other nations have already given in.

[The Real timschochet 6,397]

4 minutes ago, shadrap said:

other nations have already given in.

You mean the European Union. And they may have had other reasons for doing it. Still if it continues I will absolutely concede that this was a good move by Trump. Lower tariffs, more free trade is a good thing and however we get there I’m all for it. But as of now I’m not convinced. If you listen to Trump talk on this subject it’s pretty clear that he does not regard tariffs as a means to eliminate or lower other tariffs. 

[seafoam1 2,798]

51 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You mean the European Union. And they may have had other reasons for doing it. Still if it continues I will absolutely concede that this was a good move by Trump. Lower tariffs, more free trade is a good thing and however we get there I’m all for it. But as of now I’m not convinced. If you listen to Trump talk on this subject it’s pretty clear that he does not regard tariffs as a means to eliminate or lower other tariffs. 

Oh no! Whatever will we do now? 

 

[RLLD 4,143]

All the years of lying about inflation and high prices, and now we suddenly see Democrats bemoaning prices.   I wonder, do they understand how this looks?

[The Real timschochet 6,397]

17 minutes ago, RLLD said:

All the years of lying about inflation and high prices, and now we suddenly see Democrats bemoaning prices.   I wonder, do they understand how this looks?

I don’t care if they were lying before or hypocritical or whatever. I know I wasn’t. I said then and I will repeat now: tariffs are bad. Trump’s tariffs in 2017 were awful. Biden’s tariffs in 2021 were just as bad. The new tariffs will be far worse than any before since 1930. 

[CaptainObvious1 323]

7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I don’t care if they were lying before or hypocritical or whatever. I know I wasn’t. I said then and I will repeat now: tariffs are bad. Trump’s tariffs in 2017 were awful. Biden’s tariffs in 2021 were just as bad. The new tariffs will be far worse than any before since 1930. 

You don't have a clue what you're talking about.  It's the latest BS you repeat 400 times as if that makes it fact.

[RLLD 4,143]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

I don’t care if they were lying before or hypocritical or whatever. I know I wasn’t. I said then and I will repeat now: tariffs are bad. Trump’s tariffs in 2017 were awful. Biden’s tariffs in 2021 were just as bad. The new tariffs will be far worse than any before since 1930. 

We will have to agree to disagree on the value of tariffs.