supermike80 1,804 Posted December 12, 2024 3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: She was being asked about race in the interview though. That's fair Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,825 Posted December 12, 2024 4 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: Nope, I just accept the reality that it does exist. I see no reason to be in denial of it. So white privilege in the WNBA means teams go after you, the refs almost let them. Gets heat from several black players because she is popular and brings attention to their game and may have made them some money in the long run. An obvious jealousy in play. Yet if the LSU girl was top dog and getting all the attention, the players would not be as bitter. Thats white privilege? Weird. Ill admit I dont follow womens basketball at all. She was in thr news a lot so I know the gist and have seen some of the plays. I dont really have a problem with her winning Time athlete of the year. Its sort of ratass. And she did change the landscape of the WNBA. Even if the amount of attention will be rather short lived. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,382 Posted December 12, 2024 5 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: So white privilege in the WNBA means teams go after you, the refs almost let them. Gets heat from several black players because she is popular and brings attention to their game and may have made them some money in the long run. An obvious jealousy in play. Yet if the LSU girl was top dog and getting all the attention, the players would not be as bitter. Thats white privilege? Weird. Ill admit I dont follow womens basketball at all. She was in thr news a lot so I know the gist and have seen some of the plays. I dont really have a problem with her winning Time athlete of the year. Its sort of ratass. And she did change the landscape of the WNBA. Even if the amount of attention will be rather short lived. Where are you coming up with this shite? When did Clark say anything like that? It's like you guys just make this crap up just so you can be mad. I've seen morons posting this same bs on social media and none of it's true. She didn't apologize for being white. She didn't say she was ashamed of being white. She didn't say she got where she is right now because she's white. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,187 Posted December 12, 2024 12 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Where are you coming up with this shite? When did Clark say anything like that? It's like you guys just make this crap up just so you can be mad. I've seen morons posting this same bs on social media and none of it's true. She didn't apologize for being white. She didn't say she was ashamed of being white. She didn't say she got where she is right now because she's white. She said she has white privilege. What do you think she means by that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,825 Posted December 12, 2024 5 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: . She acknowledged that she has had privilege from being white, that's just a fact. She never said anything about her having white privilege in the WNBA or that she's ashamed of being white like I've seen morons say on social media. Ok I misread. You said she said nothing about having white privilege in the NBA. Either way saying you have white privilege is fairly woke. But shes young and is in thr spotlight getting asked stupid questions. I cant bury her for it. But its a woke thing to say. Meanwhile a black player, lets say with a father being a former NBA player with millions... doesnt have to say a thing. Settle down. I know shes your pride and joy. I apologize. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,825 Posted December 12, 2024 Any link to said interview? Id love to hear the interviewer make her submit. What was actually asked and stuff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,382 Posted December 12, 2024 1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said: Ok I misread. You said she said nothing about having white privilege in the NBA. Either way saying you have white privilege is fairly woke. But shes young and is in thr spotlight getting asked stupid questions. I cant bury her for it. But its a woke thing to say. Meanwhile a black player, lets say with a father being a former NBA player with millions... doesnt have to say a thing. Settle down. I know shes your pride and joy. I apologize. It's being made into something way more than it should be. It's just crazy how groups of people can blow things out of proportion on social media. I don't know exactly what she was referring to when she mentioned privilege. She may have been referring to sponsors or any number of other things. Being a straight, white girl in a sport dominated by lesbian, black girls is going to provide different opportunities for her. It's just the way it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,825 Posted December 12, 2024 3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: It's being made into something way more than it should be. It's just crazy how groups of people can blow things out of proportion on social media. I don't know exactly what she was referring to when she mentioned privilege. She may have been referring to sponsors or any number of other things. Being a straight, white girl in a sport dominated by lesbian, black girls is going to provide different opportunities for her. It's just the way it is. Sure. Its different. How is it privilege? She has sponsorships because she took college basketball by storm and careied her team. Was thr number 1 pick and thr next coming. Did Lebron not auto get sponsorship privilege compared to other 1st overall picks? How about an overseas fella who can hardly speak English? Would Lebron have received black privilege? Just trying to understand how this works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,382 Posted December 12, 2024 This is the full article. https://time.com/7200904/athlete-of-the-year-2024-caitlin-clark/ This is an interview after the article came out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,825 Posted December 12, 2024 You have adult 50 year old ex basketball players downing her? Wonder why? Cuz shes white? So shes submitted to saying black women built this league? Lol Wake me up when a current NBA player says white men built the NBA. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,187 Posted December 12, 2024 1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said: You have adult 50 year old ex basketball players downing her? Wonder why? Cuz shes white? So shes submitted to saying black women built this league? Lol Wake me up when a current NBA player says white men built the NBA. Not to mention that black chicks didn't build the NBA, white NBA owners did by subsidizing it for like 20 years when it wasn't profitable. I think it might have eeked out a profit this past year for the first time. We'll see if that continues or if, like Kamalatoe, it was just a honeymoon period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,382 Posted December 12, 2024 2 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: Sure. Its different. How is it privilege? She has sponsorships because she took college basketball by storm and careied her team. Was thr number 1 pick and thr next coming. Did Lebron not auto get sponsorship privilege compared to other 1st overall picks? How about an overseas fella who can hardly speak English? Would Lebron have received black privilege? Just trying to understand how this works. All of the accomplishments she's made on the court is her own doing but her being white helps tip the scales in her favor more when it comes to certain things, like endorsements and popularity in general. It seems pretty obvious to me. It's not woke, it's just reality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,187 Posted December 12, 2024 8 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: All of the accomplishments she's made on the court is her own doing but her being white helps tip the scales in her favor more when it comes to certain things, like endorsements and popularity in general. It seems pretty obvious to me. It's not woke, it's just reality. If only Lebron had been white he might have been popular and gotten endorsements!!! Damn those Melanin Gods!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,825 Posted December 12, 2024 10 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: All of the accomplishments she's made on the court is her own doing but her being white helps tip the scales in her favor more when it comes to certain things, like endorsements and popularity in general. It seems pretty obvious to me. It's not woke, it's just reality. Meh. She gets sponsorships and attention because shes literally supposed to be the biggest thing that ever happened to the WNBA. Thats how it goes. MJ did pretty poor in the endorsement world. Must have been because he is black. Bird ran circles around him with endorsements. What would Tiger's endorsements look like if he looked like Brad Faxon? The fact that ex players and current players clearly hold some grudge against her yet she has to acknowledge shes had white privilege, is hilarious. They should be washing her feet fot what she has brought. The interview wasnt that bad to be honest. Saying you have white privilege is woke tho. You can spin this stuff anyway you want. Hey Marshall Mathers grew up poor with a shltty parent in a tralier park. Trying to get in a game white guys were generally not taken seriously in. Was that privilege? Perhaps thr privilege comes when he beats those odds rises up and then gets a ton of attention because he is a unicorn. That white privilege sure is timely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,675 Posted December 12, 2024 Have they announced Griner as man of the year yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,937 Posted December 12, 2024 She doesn’t sound very bright. Dumb jock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,511 Posted December 13, 2024 3 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: All of the accomplishments she's made on the court is her own doing but her being white helps tip the scales in her favor more when it comes to certain things, like endorsements and popularity in general. It seems pretty obvious to me. It's not woke, it's just reality. You just lost the argument when you brought up endorsements and attributed her whiteness to be a factor. I submit Jordan, Ronaldo, Tiger, LeBron and Steph along with foreign whites that are the top 10 in endorsements. It has ZERO to do with race in today’s sports world. And to your earlier response that she didn’t apologize… the only way to think that what she said wasn’t a form of apology is because the word “sorry” wasn’t used. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,910 Posted December 13, 2024 Besides all the typical whining from old grumpy dudes she is the best choice for this stupid award. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,469 Posted December 13, 2024 White privilege So 20-teens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,620 Posted December 13, 2024 Here is the quote in question: ”Clark is cognizant of the racial underpinnings of her stardom. “I want to say I’ve earned every single thing, but as a white person, there is privilege,” says Clark. “A lot of those players in the league that have been really good have been Black players. This league has kind of been built on them. The more we can appreciate that, highlight that, talk about that, and then continue to have brands and companies invest in those players that have made this league incredible, I think it’s very important. I have to continue to try to change that. The more we can elevate Black women, that’s going to be a beautiful thing.” Pretty vague. Not sure why righties are so afraid of acknowledging that white privilege exists. For example she talks in the interview (not during the race conversation) about all the support she got from her parents, that is something that could be considered white privilege since blacks are less likely to grow up in 2-parent households (in b4 someone calls me racist). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,382 Posted December 13, 2024 14 hours ago, avoiding injuries said: You just lost the argument when you brought up endorsements and attributed her whiteness to be a factor. I submit Jordan, Ronaldo, Tiger, LeBron and Steph along with foreign whites that are the top 10 in endorsements. It has ZERO to do with race in today’s sports world. And to your earlier response that she didn’t apologize… the only way to think that what she said wasn’t a form of apology is because the word “sorry” wasn’t used. You can be part of the group that overreacts to what she said then. I don't think she had any intent to be "woke" in any way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,382 Posted December 13, 2024 2 hours ago, TimHauck said: Here is the quote in question: ”Clark is cognizant of the racial underpinnings of her stardom. “I want to say I’ve earned every single thing, but as a white person, there is privilege,” says Clark. “A lot of those players in the league that have been really good have been Black players. This league has kind of been built on them. The more we can appreciate that, highlight that, talk about that, and then continue to have brands and companies invest in those players that have made this league incredible, I think it’s very important. I have to continue to try to change that. The more we can elevate Black women, that’s going to be a beautiful thing.” Pretty vague. Not sure why righties are so afraid of acknowledging that white privilege exists. For example she talks in the interview (not during the race conversation) about all the support she got from her parents, that is something that could be considered white privilege since blacks are less likely to grow up in 2-parent households (in b4 someone calls me racist). There is a large group of people on the left and right that feel the need to get upset over the dumbest crap. I think they enjoy it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,937 Posted December 13, 2024 She sounds like a real idiot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,428 Posted December 13, 2024 37 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: She sounds like a real idiot. Well you’re the expert. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,937 Posted December 13, 2024 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: Well you’re the expert. Zing! Got me good there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted December 13, 2024 She is a special athlete, generational player, happy for her Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,428 Posted December 13, 2024 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: Zing! Got me good there It’s possible to offer good natured insults from time to time without wishing violent death on someone or their family members. Perhaps take this as a lesson? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,567 Posted December 13, 2024 On 12/12/2024 at 8:48 AM, thegeneral said: She got people to watch. Had a historic season. Pretty obvious pick. Shohei would have been good as well. Maybe if he had Freeman’s post season. Can’t really remember anyone from Olympics dominating. I was going to propose Yusuf Dikec, the Turkish pistol shooter. Otherwise I think she's a good pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,382 Posted December 13, 2024 The WNBA really doesn't want to succeed, does it? https://twitter.com/cnnsport/status/1867574826681897140 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,937 Posted December 13, 2024 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: It’s possible to offer good natured insults from time to time without wishing violent death on someone or their family members. Perhaps take this as a lesson? I’ll consider it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,484 Posted December 13, 2024 On 12/10/2024 at 6:48 PM, posty said: Clark coming to the WNBA accomplished a helluva a lot more than Ohtani… I think this is debatable, unless you include the fact that did it while dealing with racists and angry lesbians. If so, then I agree with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,937 Posted December 13, 2024 Having two parents is white privilege. First off, racist. Second, so stupid. She’s an idiot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,740 Posted December 13, 2024 7 hours ago, TimHauck said: Clark is cognizant of the racial underpinnings of her stardom. “I want to say I’ve earned every single thing, but as a white person, there is privilege,” says Clark. The Lefty WOKE Police got her. She probably had Woke Teachers in College. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,620 Posted December 13, 2024 2 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: The WNBA really doesn't want to succeed, does it? https://twitter.com/cnnsport/status/1867574826681897140 Great community note on that one 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,484 Posted December 14, 2024 On 12/13/2024 at 12:44 PM, Hawkeye21 said: The WNBA really doesn't want to succeed, does it? https://twitter.com/cnnsport/status/1867574826681897140 Yeah, lol, this is the evidence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,838 Posted December 14, 2024 On 12/13/2024 at 11:44 AM, Hawkeye21 said: The WNBA really doesn't want to succeed, does it? https://twitter.com/cnnsport/status/1867574826681897140 If you want something wrecked, let women run it or let women in on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainObvious1 327 Posted December 14, 2024 On 12/13/2024 at 12:44 PM, Hawkeye21 said: The WNBA really doesn't want to succeed, does it? https://twitter.com/cnnsport/status/1867574826681897140 They really don't. That dumb lady should shut up. 31% of the Mystics total home attendance for the entire 2024 season came from the two games versus Caitlin Clark and the Fever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,620 Posted December 15, 2024 1 hour ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: If you want something wrecked, let women run it or let women in on it. hey @Cdub100 this guy is sh1tting all over women over here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,838 Posted December 15, 2024 4 minutes ago, TimHauck said: hey @Cdub100 this guy is sh1tting all over women over here I save so much on my mortgage living in your head, loser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,838 Posted December 15, 2024 47 minutes ago, TimHauck said: hey @Cdub100 this guy is sh1tting all over women over here Pointing out the obvious is now "shitting all over women"? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites