Minnesota

[seafoam1 3,599]

1 minute ago, Gladiators said:

I believe what Ron said. His decision tree goes something like this:

Does what I read feed my TDS? Yes = True; No = False

100%

[Reality 3,184]

20 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

I don't think anyone is wondering why you believe THIS story.  

We'll play the stupid game you played yesterday, did the federal agent receive a bruise from being hit by the car? If so, he technically had internal bleeding. 

[dogcows 1,446]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

I question everything I read from all media.  Stop lying.

And I definitely questioned this "internal bleeding" report from a source that has turned pro trump, and from a govt that has been caught lying about this even from the start.  They lied about Renee attacked agents as they were pushing their vehicle out of the snow.  They lied about Renee because a domestic terrorist, about being vicious.  The told us there will be no investigation.

So of course they will likely continue lying about anything that in their eyes justifies this killing.

There is more info about this. From a NYT report: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/01/15/us/minneapolis-shooting-ice

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Jonathan Ross, who was identified as the ICE agent who shot Ms. Good, was still on the scene, according to a report from the Minneapolis Police Department. About 15 minutes later, he was taken to a federal building.  

No mention of injury and he wasn’t taken straight to a hospital. 

Also, internal bleeding in the torso is serious and it’s highly unlikely doctors would let somebody with such an injury walk out same-day. 

There is a major issue with this supposed medical diagnosis being leaked to the press by an anonymous DHS official. Health records are private so unless Ross provides them, we might never see them.

The alleged injury doesn’t pass the smell test IMO. He was walking briskly right after he killed Ms. Good, stayed on the scene at least 15 minutes after police arrived, and then went to a federal building instead of the hospital  

 

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17 minutes ago, dogcows said:

The alleged injury doesn’t pass the smell test IMO. He was walking briskly right after he killed Ms. Good, stayed on the scene at least 15 minutes after police arrived, and then went to a federal building instead of the hospital  

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2 hours ago, Engorgeous George said:

Among my former duties as a Prosecutor and Police Legal advisor was to advise the Chief of police on disciplinary matters.  It always seemed to my wife that the department was out of controlas there was a disciplinary matter that made the news nearly every week.  She said it was constant.  I explained to her that in a Department of nearly 1000 officers each working 250 shifts a year, each contacting on average citizens, victims, witnesses, and perpetrators on 8 incidents a day, so contacting around 30 to 40 people a day that there were maybe 50 to 60 million contacts a year. If there were complaints on 50 of those interactions that meant that the department was having problematic contacts one out of a million times.  That is a great batting average, yet there was always a fresh example of abuse or problems.  Was the department operating at almost a superhuman level of competence, or was it constantly a problem?  I guess it was perception.  All I knew is that on every incident we analyzed whether our Directives or training could be altered to try to prevent repeat incidents.  We knew, given human behavior that we could never eliminate all incidents, yet we tried.    

I’m not even talking about the shooting. ICE agents walking around demanding papers, detaining people without cause, and assaulting protestors isn’t questionable, it’s illegal. The admin signaling that ICE has blanket immunity is going to make that sort of thing more likely to happen. 

If I were a cop, I wouldn’t want to be associated with it. 

[seafoam1 3,599]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

I’m not even talking about the shooting. ICE agents walking around demanding papers, detaining people without cause, and assaulting protestors isn’t questionable, it’s illegal. The admin signaling that ICE has blanket immunity is going to make that sort of thing more likely to happen. 

If I were a cop, I wouldn’t want to be associated with it. 

 go back to bed mdpee. 

Stop your whining for once. 

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2 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

I question everything I read from all media.  Stop lying.

 

Then certainly you can post a link to ONE time you questioned an MSM story in your 20+ years of posting here under 32 different aliases. I'm sure you won't just like the other day when I asked you to support another assertion that was clearly false.  So, I fact check this claim as false as well.

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Now this here is how you do it ICE:

https://www.startribune.com/ice-agents-eat-at-small-town-mexican-restaurant-then-detain-workers/601565580

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The more I read the comments cheerleading the cruelty, the more it confirms what I’ve thought for a long time. 

Trump is not the disease. He’s a symptom of it. 

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18 minutes ago, dogcows said:

The more I read the comments cheerleading the cruelty, the more it confirms what I’ve thought for a long time. 

Trump is not the disease. He’s a symptom of it. 

We always knew liberals hated law enforcement even when they were feigning sympathy during January 6th.

We appreciate every one of you for showing your true colors. You have no respect for this country or it's laws or how dangerous their jobs are. The way you people treat law enforcement is truly disgusting.

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19 minutes ago, dogcows said:

The more I read the comments cheerleading the cruelty, the more it confirms what I’ve thought for a long time. 

Trump is not the disease. He’s a symptom of it. 

I think he's the enabler.  He made it safe for people to embrace their feelings of cruelty.  He says stuff people felt bad saying, but not anymore.  Now they are proud of their hatred and how they treat their fellow man.  Absolute garbage people.

[Ron_Artest 2,793]

3 minutes ago, Reality said:

We always knew liberals hated law enforcement even when they were feigning sympathy during January 6th.

We appreciate every one of you for showing your true colors. You have no respect for this country or it's laws or how dangerous their jobs are. The way you people treat law enforcement is truly disgusting.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, dogcows said:

There is more info about this. From a NYT report: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/01/15/us/minneapolis-shooting-ice

No mention of injury and he wasn’t taken straight to a hospital. 

Also, internal bleeding in the torso is serious and it’s highly unlikely doctors would let somebody with such an injury walk out same-day. 

There is a major issue with this supposed medical diagnosis being leaked to the press by an anonymous DHS official. Health records are private so unless Ross provides them, we might never see them.

The alleged injury doesn’t pass the smell test IMO. He was walking briskly right after he killed Ms. Good, stayed on the scene at least 15 minutes after police arrived, and then went to a federal building instead of the hospital  

 

Meh to the bolded. Bruises are internal bleeding. That means I'm bleeding internally in my elbow right now from where I whapped it on a door frame this morning. I don't intend to seek medical treatment for this "serious" injury.

The frame by frame video analyses that have been done are pretty conclusive: the only part of Ross's body that looks to have touched the car was his left hand, which also managed to hold onto his phone while he was jumping out of the way and firing 3 shots at point blank range into a moving vehicle he had just finished walking in front of. BEST CASE scenario is he was grossly negligent and violated multiple DHS policies.

That this report of his injuries came from DHS is what makes me believe it's hooey. No part of this admin can be trusted to tell the truth about anything.

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14 minutes ago, Reality said:

We always knew liberals hated law enforcement even when they were feigning sympathy during January 6th.

We appreciate every one of you for showing your true colors. You have no respect for this country or its laws or how dangerous their jobs are. The way you people treat law enforcement is truly disgusting.

What ICE is doing is NOT policing. If they hadn’t come into Minnesota with their tear gas and camera crews, none of this terrible would be happening. FACT. 

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30 minutes ago, dogcows said:

The more I read the comments cheerleading the cruelty, the more it confirms what I’ve thought for a long time. 

Trump is not the disease. He’s a symptom of it. 

It’s the end result of dysfunction and hyper partisanship. Two parties that don’t even attempt to govern and stand for nothing but owning the other side.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,252]

Cruelty. Sending people that don’t belong here back is cruel now. Women.  

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49 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Meh to the bolded. Bruises are internal bleeding. That means I'm bleeding internally in my elbow right now from where I whapped it on a door frame this morning. I don't intend to seek medical treatment for this "serious" injury.

The frame by frame video analyses that have been done are pretty conclusive: the only part of Ross's body that looks to have touched the car was his left hand, which also managed to hold onto his phone while he was jumping out of the way and firing 3 shots at point blank range into a moving vehicle he had just finished walking in front of. BEST CASE scenario is he was grossly negligent and violated multiple DHS policies.

That this report of his injuries came from DHS is what makes me believe it's hooey. No part of this admin can be trusted to tell the truth about anything.

If you don't even know the car hit him, nothing else you say really matters. There's plenty of video out there showing he was hit. I can't believe we are this far into this thing and people still post stupid shlt like this.

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“A woman who claimed she was driving to a doctor's appointment when she was hauled out of her car by Immigration and Customs Enforcement Officers has a history of social justice activism and interactions with police.

Aliya Rahman, 42, was allegedly blocking ICE agents working to capture illegals in Minneapolis on Tuesday when officers pulled her from her black Ford Fusion as she desperately clung to the driver's side door.

She cried out 'I'm disabled, I'm trying to go to the doctor up there' as four masked officers dragged her into a federal vehicle. Disturbing photos of her arrest made international news. 

Rahman, a US-born citizen, is a technologist and social justice trainer who dedicates her time to LBGTQ and racial injustice causes, her Tech for Social Justice profile said.

The registered Democrat says she threw herself into activism work while studying aeronautical engineering at Purdue University after two of her cousins were killed in the 9/11 terror attacks. 

Rahman, who identifies as being genderqueer, was dating a transgender man at the time and claimed that due to the culture in rural Indiana, it was a 'necessity' that she became involved in advocacy work. .   “

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Internal bleeding when discussed by doctors is a serious medical emergency. They don't call a bruise internal bleeding, they call it a contusion. That internal bleeding line is complete BS. I don't give a fock if you look up the definition of internal bleeding on the internet and say otherwise, that would be incorrect.

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On 1/16/2026 at 10:31 AM, jerryskids said:

We don't know if there was any contact prior to the videos we see.  We can determine that she didn't start to leave when the first officer told her to get out, and her wife yelled to drive only when the officer reached for the door handle.  We'll never know if more words would have worked; my guess is not so much, your guess is that she would have agreed to move I guess?

I'm fine with prosecuting her, not because she was Un-American, but because she was violating the law.

C’mon with the bolded.  It was basically simultaneous.

We don’t know if there was contact prior to the videos.  But we do know from the 3:30 video that ends just before the shooting, for the first 2:30 most of the activity was going on several hundred yards behind her despite her being parked perpendicular for much of that. At 2:30 a car drives behind her then parks, pretty sure that is the shooter’s car, not sure if that’s been officially stated?  Then at 3:20 the second car which was not previously in view pulls up, parks and within about 10 seconds the shooting happens.  Occam’s razor would suggest that they wouldn’t have let her stay parked there for ~2 minutes with no agents near her if she was disobeying prior orders.

In that video, the shooter appears somewhere between 2:45 and 3:05.  And in the cell phone video from the shooter, the shooting happens right around 30 seconds in.  So at most we’re missing about 15 seconds of visual of the shooter’s interaction with her.  I guess it’s theoretically possible he told her to move in that 15 seconds or less, but since he was recording I would think he most likely would have started recording before talking to her.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-video-shows-minutes-leading-up-deadly-minneapolis-ice-shooting

[seafoam1 3,599]

11 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

C’mon with the bolded.  It was basically simultaneous.

We don’t know if there was contact prior to the videos.  But we do know from the 3:30 video that ends just before the shooting, for the first 2:30 most of the activity was going on several hundred yards behind her despite her being parked perpendicular for much of that. At 2:30 a car drives behind her then parks, pretty sure that is the shooter’s car, not sure if that’s been officially stated?  Then at 3:20 the second car which was not previously in view pulls up, parks and within about 10 seconds the shooting happens.  Occam’s razor would suggest that they wouldn’t have let her stay parked there for ~2 minutes with no agents near her if she was disobeying prior orders.

In that video, the shooter appears somewhere between 2:45 and 3:05.  And in the cell phone video from the shooter, the shooting happens right around 30 seconds in.  So at most we’re missing about 15 seconds of visual of the shooter’s interaction with her.  I guess it’s theoretically possible he told her to move in that 15 seconds or less, but since he was recording I would think he most likely would have started recording before talking to her.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-video-shows-minutes-leading-up-deadly-minneapolis-ice-shooting

Timhack still can't handle the truth. This is awesome. 

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44 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

C’mon with the bolded.  It was basically simultaneous.

We don’t know if there was contact prior to the videos.  But we do know from the 3:30 video that ends just before the shooting, for the first 2:30 most of the activity was going on several hundred yards behind her despite her being parked perpendicular for much of that. At 2:30 a car drives behind her then parks, pretty sure that is the shooter’s car, not sure if that’s been officially stated?  Then at 3:20 the second car which was not previously in view pulls up, parks and within about 10 seconds the shooting happens.  Occam’s razor would suggest that they wouldn’t have let her stay parked there for ~2 minutes with no agents near her if she was disobeying prior orders.

In that video, the shooter appears somewhere between 2:45 and 3:05.  And in the cell phone video from the shooter, the shooting happens right around 30 seconds in.  So at most we’re missing about 15 seconds of visual of the shooter’s interaction with her.  I guess it’s theoretically possible he told her to move in that 15 seconds or less, but since he was recording I would think he most likely would have started recording before talking to her.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-video-shows-minutes-leading-up-deadly-minneapolis-ice-shooting

Yes, I'm aware of this video.  As you stated, we don't know what happened prior.  If this is the first encounter ICE had with Good, then I agree they should have tried more words.  I would expect that to come out eventually.

The fact that she was riding her horn, impeding their mission and putting their lives in potential danger, as well as risking safety by parking 90 degrees off in the middle of the street, might justify a brief verbal interaction, but it should have been longer, if this was their first encounter.

I find it hard to believe that she had just dropped her kids off at daycare, written some poetry, rescued a few cats out of trees, and everything else the MSM tells you to convince you that she was an innocent saint, just prior to this video.  But it's possible I guess.  

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Surprised there are still arguments over this.

Everyone agrees that by law it was a clean shoot.  Everything else is just politics. 

Wokies, we get it.  You want to let wokie moms do whatever they want to ICE.  That's not going to have a lot of support.  

[Reality 3,184]

1 hour ago, HellToupee said:

 

“A woman who claimed she was driving to a doctor's appointment when she was hauled out of her car by Immigration and Customs Enforcement Officers has a history of social justice activism and interactions with police.

Aliya Rahman, 42, was allegedly blocking ICE agents working to capture illegals in Minneapolis on Tuesday when officers pulled her from her black Ford Fusion as she desperately clung to the driver's side door.

She cried out 'I'm disabled, I'm trying to go to the doctor up there' as four masked officers dragged her into a federal vehicle. Disturbing photos of her arrest made international news. 

Rahman, a US-born citizen, is a technologist and social justice trainer who dedicates her time to LBGTQ and racial injustice causes, her Tech for Social Justice profile said.

The registered Democrat says she threw herself into activism work while studying aeronautical engineering at Purdue University after two of her cousins were killed in the 9/11 terror attacks. 

Rahman, who identifies as being genderqueer, was dating a transgender man at the time and claimed that due to the culture in rural Indiana, it was a 'necessity' that she became involved in advocacy work. .   “

Of course.

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5 minutes ago, nobody said:

Surprised there are still arguments over this.

A nonpartisan review of some kind might’ve put the issue to rest. 

[TimHauck 3,525]

4 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Yes, I'm aware of this video.  As you stated, we don't know what happened prior.  If this is the first encounter ICE had with Good, then I agree they should have tried more words.  I would expect that to come out eventually.

The fact that she was riding her horn, impeding their mission and putting their lives in potential danger, as well as risking safety by parking 90 degrees off in the middle of the street, might justify a brief verbal interaction, but it should have been longer, if this was their first encounter.

I find it hard to believe that she had just dropped her kids off at daycare, written some poetry, rescued a few cats out of trees, and everything else the MSM tells you to convince you that she was an innocent saint, just prior to this video.  But it's possible I guess.  

The shooting occurred at 9:30 AM.  We already know DHS lied by claiming that she was following them “all day,” but 9:30 AM isn’t close to “all day.”  Dropping her kid off at school seems highly likely, and according to the school’s website it starts at 9AM, so we’re talking at most like 45 minutes between when she dropped her kid off and when she died.

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9 minutes ago, nobody said:

Surprised there are still arguments over this.

Everyone agrees that by law it was a clean shoot.  Everything else is just politics. 

Wokies, we get it.  You want to let wokie moms do whatever they want to ICE.  That's not going to have a lot of support.  

The “normies” however should be concerned about some of the results of this such as Stephen Miller saying ICE has immunity, and the suggestion that recording DHS should be illegal. 

[Hardcore troubadour 16,252]

930 can most certainly be all day. These operations usually kick off before 5. 

[TimHauck 3,525]

So Renee Good was a poet too lazy to get a real job, but she was up at 5am in below zero temperatures impeding ICE.  Yeah, ok.

[League Champion 1,943]

Just now, TimHauck said:

So Renee Good was a poet too lazy to get a real job, but she was up at 5am in below zero temperatures impeding ICE.  Yeah, ok.

She was taking her Kids to school. The ones that she lost custody of 

[TimHauck 3,525]

2 minutes ago, League Champion said:

The ones that she lost custody of 

Wrong.

[League Champion 1,943]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Wrong.

I know. You can't take kids to school that you don't have custody of 

[TimHauck 3,525]

1 minute ago, League Champion said:

I know. You can't take kids to school that you don't have custody of 

Correct.  Also there is no credible evidence that she “lost” custody of the others.  Just because they were living with their father doesn’t mean she “lost” custody of them.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,252]

These operations usually begin before 5 am. 930 can most certainly be “all day”. 

[League Champion 1,943]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Correct

I wonder why her and her "wife" were even there. 

[TimHauck 3,525]

1 minute ago, League Champion said:

I wonder why her and her "wife" were even there. 

They lived in the neighborhood 

[seafoam1 3,599]

3 minutes ago, League Champion said:

I wonder why her and her "wife" were even there. 

Looking to get shot. And it was clean. 

[League Champion 1,943]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

They lived in the neighborhood 

Yes, but what were they doing there ?

[TimHauck 3,525]

1 minute ago, League Champion said:

Yes, but what were they doing there ?

Living

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1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Living

She lives in the middle of the street harassing Federal Agents?