TimHauck 2,916 Posted July 16 It’s not banning food dyes or frying French fries in beef tallow. It’s getting Americans to exercise more. What are some suggestion on how we do that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,916 Posted July 16 It’s also not drinking Coca-cola with cane sugar instead of high fructose corn syrup Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,510 Posted July 16 Let kids shower by themselves 1 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,916 Posted July 16 This guy has some funny but informative videos. Calories in < calories out is all you need to know to lose weight. https://x.com/BioLayne/status/1945584173789380660 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,498 Posted July 16 10 minutes ago, TimHauck said: This guy has some funny but informative videos. Calories in < calories out is all you need to know to lose weight. https://x.com/BioLayne/status/1945584173789380660 This isn't necessarily true. Energy deficit is foundational, but it's not ALL you need to know to lose weight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,715 Posted July 17 I thought this going to be about trump making America hate again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,916 Posted July 17 36 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: This isn't necessarily true. Energy deficit is foundational, but it's not ALL you need to know to lose weight. It kinda is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,916 Posted July 17 But yes, your food choices can impact how that calories in vs calories out occurs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,510 Posted July 17 44 minutes ago, Bier Meister said: I thought this going to be about trump making America hate again Yeah. Everyone was getting along great before Trump. Trump! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,715 Posted July 17 36 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Yeah. Everyone was getting along great before Trump. Trump! It has been a while since our nation has been unified. Trump has definitely exacerbated the split Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,916 Posted July 17 3 minutes ago, Bier Meister said: It has been a while since our nation has been unified. Trump has definitely exacerbated the split @iam90sbaby says that no one he knew talked about race, until the minute Obama was elected 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,874 Posted July 17 Tim tagging people already and trying to hijack his own thread. Thats gold. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,133 Posted July 17 9 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: Tim tagging people already and trying to hijack his own thread. Thats gold. JHC. He's literally tagged me 2, 3 and even 4 times IN THE SAME POST. I probably got about 6000 tags from him over the last week or two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,916 Posted July 17 20 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: JHC. He's literally tagged me 2, 3 and even 4 times IN THE SAME POST. I probably got about 6000 tags from him over the last week or two. Not in this thread. Thanks for your contribution. And thanks for confirming tagging you annoys you, @EternalShinyAndChrome. Whoops, I guess now I tagged you in this thread. Carry on with your whining. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,916 Posted July 17 4 hours ago, TheNewGirl said: This isn't necessarily true. Energy deficit is foundational, but it's not ALL you need to know to lose weight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,086 Posted July 17 4 hours ago, TimHauck said: It’s not banning food dyes or frying French fries in beef tallow. It’s getting Americans to exercise more. What are some suggestion on how we do that? You really don't know this? WTF? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,916 Posted July 17 18 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: You really don't know this? WTF? I’m not sure if RFK knows it. He seems more focused on food dyes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,086 Posted July 17 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: I’m not sure if RFK knows it. He seems more focused on food dyes He didn't ask the stupid questions. You did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,916 Posted July 18 I forget which thread it was where @jerryskids was saying HFCS was significantly worse than sugar and repeatedly said to “google why is HFCS bad” and never compared it to sugar lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,554 Posted July 18 On 7/16/2025 at 9:25 PM, Bier Meister said: It has been a while since our nation has been unified. Trump has definitely exacerbated the split Obama and the Democrats did that, not Trump. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BudBro 183 Posted July 18 On 7/16/2025 at 5:13 PM, TimHauck said: What are some suggestion on how we do that? I recently learned that insulin resistance is our body's way of "holding on to" water and salt. Said another way, if you aren't ingesting enough salt and water, our body will endeavor to keep what it has. When our cells are resistant to insulin, many things are triggered.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BudBro 183 Posted July 18 A good article from Breitbart Business on how HFCS came to replace sugar in the 1980s... Breitbart Business Digest: Coke’s Corn Syrup Switch Wasn’t About Tariffs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,086 Posted July 18 6 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said: Obama and the Democrats did that, not Trump. 100% fact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,916 Posted July 18 4 minutes ago, BudBro said: A good article from Breitbart Business on how HFCS came to replace sugar in the 1980s... Breitbart Business Digest: Coke’s Corn Syrup Switch Wasn’t About Tariffs But nutritionally there is very little difference between HFCS and sugar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,554 Posted July 18 46 minutes ago, TimHauck said: But nutritionally there is very little difference between HFCS and sugar "Nutritionally", this is true... long term, sugar is better. HFCS has a bigger negative impact on your metabolism, liver, and gut health. Neither are particularly good for you, but considering that the majority of people consuming them aren't doing it in true moderation, they're definitely better off, with cane sugar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,916 Posted July 18 1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said: "Nutritionally", this is true... long term, sugar is better. HFCS has a bigger negative impact on your metabolism, liver, and gut health. Neither are particularly good for you, but considering that the majority of people consuming them aren't doing it in true moderation, they're definitely better off, with cane sugar. Link? The only study I’ve seen showing HFCS as significantly worse than sugar in any metric was in a “marker for inflammation,” but no difference in all other metrics. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9551185/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,554 Posted July 19 2 hours ago, TimHauck said: Link? The only study I’ve seen showing HFCS as significantly worse than sugar in any metric was in a “marker for inflammation,” but no difference in all other metrics. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9551185/ School and endocrinologists I talk to. This is NOT and good vs bad situation, it's a really bad vs just as bad, but slightly worse situation. Every nutritionist and endocrinologist will tell you to avoid both, but if you don't and have a choice, choose sugar cane. Both will do the same thing to your body, but the risks are greater with corn syrup. Also, your brain doesn't recognize corn syrup as an adequate nutrient. When that happens, your body doesn't register it as satiating and you're more likely to keep eating/drinking. This is why the risks are higher. Again, people should avoid both. There's no winner. In a way, it's like a football team losing 14-0 or 17-0. No one wants either, but you're better off losing 14-0. Like you noted, the difference isn't great, but one is worse. Why choose that one? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,916 Posted July 20 On 7/18/2025 at 8:20 PM, TBayXXXVII said: School and endocrinologists I talk to. This is NOT and good vs bad situation, it's a really bad vs just as bad, but slightly worse situation. Every nutritionist and endocrinologist will tell you to avoid both, but if you don't and have a choice, choose sugar cane. Both will do the same thing to your body, but the risks are greater with corn syrup. Also, your brain doesn't recognize corn syrup as an adequate nutrient. When that happens, your body doesn't register it as satiating and you're more likely to keep eating/drinking. This is why the risks are higher. Again, people should avoid both. There's no winner. In a way, it's like a football team losing 14-0 or 17-0. No one wants either, but you're better off losing 14-0. Like you noted, the difference isn't great, but one is worse. Why choose that one? If it’s really any worse is debatable, but yes I agree they’re both bad. Lol at RFK thinking switching coke to cane sugar is “winning” https://x.com/SecKennedy/status/1946694089954771123 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,496 Posted July 20 I don’t how to MAHA. But I bet Crackhead Rob’s solution involves crystals and trephination. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,916 Posted July 22 On 7/16/2025 at 7:33 PM, TimHauck said: This guy has some funny but informative videos. Calories in < calories out is all you need to know to lose weight. https://x.com/BioLayne/status/1945584173789380660 He was on Breaking Points today. Good convo calling out the stupidity of the cane sugar coke nonsense, including stating that Diet Coke with aspartame is far better than regular Coke with cane sugar. Then goes into seed oil nonsense as well. It ultimately comes down to calories in vs calories out, people eat too much and move too little. Unfortunately he says he doesn’t have the solution to that though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drizzay 723 Posted July 22 I'm trying to cut out HFCS completely, and so far, these are the everyday items I specifically go out of my way to buy the non-hfcs version of: Ketchup Peanut butter jelly Syrup BBQ sauce Coffee Creamer Salad dressing I also avoid Aspartame, as that does a number on my gut. I will have an energy drink with Sucralose in it, as that seems to agree with me more. But I am actively trying to get rid of that as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,838 Posted July 22 On 7/17/2025 at 7:55 PM, TimHauck said: I forget which thread it was where @jerryskids was saying HFCS was significantly worse than sugar and repeatedly said to “google why is HFCS bad” and never compared it to sugar lol Apparently nobody told Coca Cola or HHS that HFCS is the same as cane sugar. Quote Coca-Cola to release soda with cane sugar after Trump pushed for it. Is it really better than high-fructose corn syrup? The company confirmed that it will be launching a version of Coke made with cane sugar this fall. Kaitlin Reilly, Reporter Updated Tue, July 22, 2025 at 6:03 AM MST Coca-Cola announced on Tuesday that it will release a new version of Coke using cane sugar later this year. “As part of its ongoing innovation agenda, this fall in the United States, the company plans to launch an offering made with U.S. cane sugar to expand its Trademark Coca-Cola product range,” Coca-Cola said in a press release reporting its second quarter earnings. “This addition is designed to complement the company’s strong core portfolio and offer more choices across occasions and preferences.” The announcement came days after President Trump said in a social media post that the company had agreed with him to do so. “I have been speaking to Coca-Cola about using REAL Cane Sugar in Coke in the United States, and they have agreed to do so,” Trump wrote in a Truth Social post last week. “I’d like to thank all of those in authority at Coca-Cola. This will be a very good move by them — You’ll see. It’s just better!” Other countries, such as Mexico, already use cane sugar in their version of the soda — but the American version of Coke uses high-fructose corn syrup, a different type of sweetener that has the same amount of calories. Many people prefer the so-called Mexican Coke, which, while less common, is also available for purchase in stores and restaurants around the United States. What is real cane sugar? Why haven't we been using it? First, let’s explain what “real cane sugar” means. Cane sugar comes from sugarcane plants and is a natural sugar. High-fructose corn syrup, on the other hand, is made from corn. Chemically, the two are slightly different: Cane sugar is made of glucose and fructose bonded together, while high-fructose corn syrup has free glucose and fructose mixed separately. Cane sugar fell out of favor for use in food manufacturing about 40 years ago, when then-President Ronald Reagan put a limit on sugar imports, raising the price of domestic sugar. Enter high-fructose corn syrup, which was cheaper to produce on U.S. soil. Now high-fructose corn syrup is in so many foods for sale in the United States, from Coke to packaged baked goods to some pasta sauces. Even some brands of cottage cheese contain high-fructose corn syrup. (And it’s important to note that high-fructose corn syrup is not the same as the sweet, sticky corn syrup you can find at the grocery store — it’s made available only by food manufacturers.) High-fructose corn syrup and cane sugar (chemical name: sucrose) may taste very similar, but they are absorbed differently by the body. When you eat sucrose, your digestive system breaks it down into glucose and fructose before they’re absorbed into your bloodstream. High-fructose corn syrup already contains free glucose and fructose, so your body absorbs them directly without needing to break them apart first. Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Trump’s secretary of Health and Human Services, has been a vocal critic of high-fructose corn syrup. He called it “a formula for making you obese and diabetic” in a promotional video during his own failed presidential run in 2024. However, this position has placed him at odds with corn farmers, according to the New York Times — many of whom supported Trump in the 2024 election. The Corn Refiners Association warned that removing high-fructose corn syrup from U.S. foods could lower corn prices by up to 34 cents a bushel and cost farmers $5.1 billion in revenue, leading to job losses and economic harm in rural communities. But RFK Jr. is far from the first person to demonize high-fructose corn syrup, and studies have been done to assess its true risks. Is high-fructose corn syrup really worse than cane sugar? Both high-fructose corn syrup and cane sugar come with health risks, especially when consumed in excess over time. They can raise blood sugar and contribute to weight gain and inflammation, leading to chronic issues like heart disease and diabetes. Sweetened soda is especially concerning from a health standpoint: A 2025 study found that drinking sugary beverages was linked to an increased risk of type 2 diabetes, more so than consuming sugar within food. High-fructose corn syrup, however, may be worse for you than cane sugar — at least, in theory. Because fructose is mainly processed by the liver, ingesting a lot of high-fructose corn syrup can put extra stress on the organ, which may lead to the risk of liver problems and other health issues over time. A 2022 study also found that higher high-fructose corn syrup intake in young adults led to more fat buildup in the liver and worse insulin sensitivity, both of which increase the risk of liver disease and type 2 diabetes. However, it did not compare high-fructose corn syrup with sucrose, so it’s unclear if sucrose would have also had the same effect. A 2022 study found that both high-fructose corn syrup and sucrose had the same effects on weight, blood pressure, cholesterol and blood sugar but that high-fructose corn syrup caused a small increase in C-reactive protein, a marker of inflammation. This could increase the risk of chronic inflammation over time, which may lead to conditions like heart disease, diabetes and other metabolic disorders. More research is needed to know if that difference really matters for long-term health. Some animal studies have raised public concern over high-fructose corn syrup, such as a 2024 study that linked high-fructose corn syrup to tumor growth and cancer cell acceleration. And a 2010 study from Princeton found that rats with access to high-fructose corn syrup gained more weight than those with access to table sugar, even with diets of equal calories. But, again, these studies were not done in humans, so it’s unclear what impacts they would have on our bodies. The bottom line More research must be done to assess the true harms of high-fructose corn syrup versus cane sugar. What is clear: Diets high in sugar, in general, come with health concerns. Changing Coke’s formula may or may not make a major impact on one’s health — but drinking less of the sweet stuff could do your body a service. https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/food-drink/article/coca-cola-to-release-soda-with-cane-sugar-after-trump-pushed-for-it-is-it-really-better-than-high-fructose-corn-syrup-215659515.html I hope they do additional studies. This entire topic of sugar vs. fats is a great example of why NOT to trust the "science." Too much politics and money involved by the people doing many of the past studies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,916 Posted July 22 1 hour ago, jerryskids said: Apparently nobody told Coca Cola or HHS that HFCS is the same as cane sugar. https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/food-drink/article/coca-cola-to-release-soda-with-cane-sugar-after-trump-pushed-for-it-is-it-really-better-than-high-fructose-corn-syrup-215659515.html I hope they do additional studies. This entire topic of sugar vs. fats is a great example of why NOT to trust the "science." Too much politics and money involved by the people doing many of the past studies. What do you mean “nobody told Coca-Cola”? They make both, use primarily HFCS in the US, and if I had to bet they probably charge more for the cane sugar version. I think a lot of people just claim to like the taste better. But I don’t think Coke has actually said they would be getting rid of HFCS. This excerpt is from the same study I referenced; it’s pretty much the only finding in an actual study supporting anything about HFCS being significantly worse than sugar, and it was just a “marker for inflammation,” while there was no difference between all the actual measures that most would consider more important: “A 2022 study found that both high fructose corn syrup and sucrose had the same effects on weight, blood pressure, cholesterol and blood sugar but that high fructose corn syrup caused a small increase in C-reactive protein, a marker of inflammation“ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,510 Posted July 23 It’s the glass bottle people like. Tastes better than plastic and a can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,916 Posted July 26 Lololol https://x.com/RogerMarshallMD/status/1948776881039258029 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,361 Posted July 26 Eat clean and exercise. Meat and vegetables. You need nothing else. Ever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,916 Posted July 26 7 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Eat clean and exercise. Meat and vegetables. You need nothing else. Ever Agree. Honestly you can even exercise and still eat sh1t and not be fat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,373 Posted Monday at 03:40 AM On 7/25/2025 at 10:07 PM, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Eat clean and exercise. Meat and vegetables. You need nothing else. Ever Solid factual advice! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,916 Posted yesterday at 01:52 AM Bimbo invited on Fox & Friends makes factually incorrect claim that Cane Sugar Regular Coke is healthier than Diet Coke https://x.com/DecodingFoxNews/status/1950550240542507194 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,643 Posted yesterday at 02:02 AM 8 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Bimbo invited on Fox & Friends makes factually incorrect claim that Cane Sugar Regular Coke is healthier than Diet Coke https://x.com/DecodingFoxNews/status/1950550240542507194 Define “healthier”. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites