FBI Uncovers NBA Gambling Scandal

[TheNewGirl 1,633]

16 minutes ago, MikeMatt said:

They are saying not so nice things about my Italian people. 
 

You should take them to the mattresses. 

[DonS 3,319]

50 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Many people heard Layla in the background during the arrests 

Definitely need to rewatch Goodfellas.  It's been awhile. 

[weepaws 3,304]

Root of evil.  

[FrancieFootball 136]

This is a huge deal. Faking injuries to help people win bets?

 

[nobody 2,865]

4 hours ago, GobbleDog said:

That'd create a lot more action among illegal bookmakers.  The best way to reduce fixing is for legal bookmakers to spot and report unusual betting patterns. That's probably how the current situation came to light. 

Strange story as top level sports fixing is so rare - although this will wrongly make people believe it's rampant.  Most sports fixing occurs in low-level sports - particularly tennis. Don't make squat, crazy expenses, and easy to get away with. Don't even have to throw a game, just say the first set, or lose first break, or numerous other options other than the final outcome. Enough players have admitted as much. 

I would agree with you, but I watched the most obviously fixed game I've ever seen in 2008.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/82638-steelers-chargers-wild-play-bad-call-cost-some-gamblers

Normally when I bring this up I go find a video of the ending but it's been scrubbed apparently.

But that article doesn't do this game justice.  Not only was the ending outrageous, there were suspect calls against Pitt all game.  So much so, I commented during the game to my friend, "is this game fixed?"

But fast forward to the end.  Chargers doing pitchy pitchy woo woo... Steelers get one of the laterals and score a TD on the final play.

Not only do the refs throw a BS flag saying there was an illegal forward pass.  They end up reviewing the play and getting the review wrong.  Then on top of the bad flag and the bad review, they then enforce the bad review incorrectly by taking away the TD.

Zero chance that game wasn't fixed.  Zero chance.

[Drizzay 742]

The mob isn't a real organization.  Just a bunch of individual people with the same mindset.

[nobody 2,865]

When I was looking for the video I saw the pro football reference link..

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200811160pit.htm#all_team_stats

Check out the penalties

Chargers 2 for 5 yards

Pittsburgh 13 for 115

Plus the stuff at the end...

 Come on, bruh

[The Elevator Killer 710]

Just now, Drizzay said:

The mob isn't a real organization.  Just a bunch of individual people with the same mindset.

My mother had a bar in New Orleans where the Gambino's ran gambling in the back. But ok. What you said. 

[nobody 2,865]

And for the "it could never happen" crowd, don't forget it did happen.  Tim Donaghy.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,330]

Another thing Trump is doing that the favorite politicians of the left never mention. Another win.

[thegeneral 3,542]

8 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Another thing Trump is doing that the favorite politicians of the left never mention. Another win.

The investigation began in 2023…oops!

[The Elevator Killer 710]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

The investigation began in 2023…oops!

Steven A Smith is blaming Trump. SMH

[Frozenbeernuts 2,330]

19 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

The investigation began in 2023…oops!

When did it culminate? During Trump. Oops!

[thegeneral 3,542]

5 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

When did it culminate? During Trump. Oops!

Your dumb tinfoil hat wearing ass is the one who decided to make this some political thing. 

Biden’s FBI teed it up for little Kash. Suck it!

[seafoam1 3,390]

3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Your dumb tinfoil hat wearing ass...

Thegenital seems to be a really nice guy. 

[BeenHereBefore 1,578]

2 hours ago, nobody said:

When I was looking for the video I saw the pro football reference link..

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200811160pit.htm#all_team_stats

Check out the penalties

Chargers 2 for 5 yards

Pittsburgh 13 for 115

Plus the stuff at the end...

 Come on, bruh

I watched that live being a Steeler fan and when people say sports ain't fixed I tell them to watch that game on YT and then get back to me.

[seafoam1 3,390]

What's a "bruh"? 

[BeenHereBefore 1,578]

As for prop bets I seen NFL Rbs sitting out for no reason cause they was a yard away from reaching their over and the announcers saying I don't no why he's not going back in, he just standing on the sideline not injured. Think this happens a lot on prop bets and not just the NBA.

[seafoam1 3,390]

1 minute ago, BeenHereBefore said:

As for prop bets I seen NFL Rbs sitting out for no reason cause they was a yard away from reaching their over and the announcers saying I don't no why he's not going back in, he just standing on the sideline not injured. Think this happens a lot on prop bets and not just the NBA.

Not saying you are wrong, but, there are designated goal line backs. 

[thegeneral 3,542]

5 minutes ago, BeenHereBefore said:

As for prop bets I seen NFL Rbs sitting out for no reason cause they was a yard away from reaching their over and the announcers saying I don't no why he's not going back in, he just standing on the sideline not injured. Think this happens a lot on prop bets and not just the NBA.

The CeeDee Lamb incident from earlier this season was brutal. I don’t have these betting apps but Twitter was abuzz for all prop bettors…my understating is they offer a thing where if the guy gets hurt very early they will waive the bet. He came back for one play in the second quarter to screw them all

[seafoam1 3,390]

Just now, thegeneral said:

The CeeDee Lamb incident from earlier this season was brutal. I don’t have these betting apps but Twitter was abuzz for all prop bettors…my understating is they offer a thing where if the guy gets hurt very early they will waive the bet. He came back for one play in the second quarter to screw them all

Ok, so, you admit to not knowing anything about any of this, but feel like you need to insert your comments on it.  

[frank 2,338]

2 hours ago, Drizzay said:

The mob isn't a real organization.  Just a bunch of individual people with the same mindset.

That’s exactly what someone in the mob would say.

[thegeneral 3,542]

5 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Ok, so, you admit to not knowing anything about any of this, but feel like you need to insert your comments on it.  

I think you are confused.

[thegeneral 3,542]

2 hours ago, nobody said:

When I was looking for the video I saw the pro football reference link..

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200811160pit.htm#all_team_stats

Check out the penalties

Chargers 2 for 5 yards

Pittsburgh 13 for 115

Plus the stuff at the end...

 Come on, bruh

Look no further than Seahawks Pittsburgh Super Bowl XL. A travishamockery of officiating.

Coincidence the Steelers are in both games?!

[Frozenbeernuts 2,330]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

Your dumb tinfoil hat wearing ass is the one who decided to make this some political thing. 

Biden’s FBI teed it up for little Kash. Suck it!

If that's what makes you feel better about voting for Democrats

[WhiteWonder 2,902]

The Gambler with Marky Mark is a great movie

[BeenHereBefore 1,578]

33 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

my understating is they offer a thing where if the guy gets hurt very early they will waive the bet.

Yea they just started offering that this season and yea guy comes back in for a play it screws it.

[WhiteWonder 2,902]

This stuff really is easiest to do in basketball and hardest to prove just based on what you see on the court/field. If an NBA player has an over/under of 27.5 points, he can have other people wager for themselves on the under, giving him a cut or on his behalf... then go out and play your ass off as a rebounder and facilitator to help your team win the game while missing enough shots to score 22. Really, no one would blink an eye at that. If Jokic scores 22 with 16 boards and 12 assists in a Nuggets win, who the hell is going to say "you know what? I think Joker scored under his line of 27.5 on purpose for gambling"...  I'm not sure a high profile guy like that is going to risk it but some 2nd unit player not making nearly as much $$$ might see an opportunity, and again... how do you prove they didn't have an off shooting night, or a night where it made more sense to pass to a better look? 

Baseball pitching was wild with the first pitch ball stuff and Emmanuel Clase? Like obviously you wager first pitch ball because it's easier to control throwing a ball than it is to make sure you throw a strike. Harder to hide that as a reliever too. I think a starter could go out there every 5th day and get away with it when they are pitching 5-6 innings. But it's just more difficult to control outcomes when its not you and the basket. Like a SP isn't going to wager a ton of money on his under strikeout line when he can't control how bad the other teams hitter are and can't guarantee the under without making it look really suspicious walking more guys than normal and/or faking injury. By that same thought process, it's going to be kind of obvious if a NFL receiver is loafing it out there and intentionally dropping passes to stay under a catch or yardage total. 

[BeenHereBefore 1,578]

42 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Not saying you are wrong, but, there are designated goal line backs. 

This was a main RB and was running all over the team. Game was still close with 10 mins to go and I know and bet on him. I'm like wtf and the announcer called it out as well.

[seafoam1 3,390]

21 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I think you are confused.

If you are going to think that every move made in games and all the officiating is all geared towards gambling, then why do you even bother taking part in watching any of it?

These NFL teams have security at their hotels that are up to date with criminals who they know are in crime groups around gambling who want to approach players and they have been caught and taken care of in many circumstances. Players and coaches and ball boys and equipment people and managers and everyone knows this. 

This was just discussed on NFL radio with Jim Miller and Pat Kerwin who have been involved with the league in many ways for many years. 

There are alerts and communications that go out to all players and all team employees and they watch out for what they are doing and who they are dealing with. 

Just take a break from sports and go enjoy something else. 

Will there be some tampering, yes. But to let this flood your brain into thinking it's the way of the leagues, that's like a different form of TDS. 

[thegeneral 3,542]

4 minutes ago, BeenHereBefore said:

Yea they just started offering that this season and yea guy comes back in for a play it screws it.

I was playing against CeeDee that week in my main league so was checking Twitter for his status…people were raging

[thegeneral 3,542]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

If you are going to think that every move made in games and all the officiating is all geared towards gambling, then why do you even bother taking part in watching any of it?

These NFL teams have security at their hotels that are up to date with criminals who they know are in crime groups around gambling who want to approach players and they have been caught and taken care of in many circumstances. Players and coaches and ball boys and equipment people and managers and everyone knows this. 

This was just discussed on NFL radio with Jim Miller and Pat Kerwin who have been involved with the league in many ways for many years. 

There are alerts and communications that go out to all players and all team employees and they watch out for what they are doing and who they are dealing with. 

Just take a break from sports and go enjoy something else. 

Will there be some tampering, yes. But to let this flood your brain into thinking it's the way of the leagues, that's like a different form of TDS. 

I don’t think that all. I hope that helps.

[Drizzay 742]

3 hours ago, The Elevator Killer said:

My mother had a bar in New Orleans where the Gambino's ran gambling in the back. But ok. What you said. 

Whoosh

[thegeneral 3,542]

 

[cmh6476 1,108]

13 hours ago, The Elevator Killer said:

High stakes poker games run by the mob. I can see where that could lead to game fixing. 

dude really went all in.

[BeenHereBefore 1,578]

7 hours ago, The Elevator Killer said:

My mother had a bar in New Orleans where the Gambino's ran gambling in the back. But ok. What you said. 

My local pool hall in the 80's had illegal poker games in the back room that was run by our city mafia. They was cool to us teenagers while we shot pool. We knew they was what they was cause our parents knew and told us. They had nice 8ft Brunswick tables and how I got good at pool when I was young. Not many shot there and just mostly my small group of friends. 

[Mike Honcho 5,411]

Isn't the punishment for gambling in the NBA playing minor league baseball for a year?

[WhiteWonder 2,902]

22 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Isn't the punishment for gambling in the NBA playing minor league baseball for a year?

welcome to the thread

[Fnord 2,484]

2 hours ago, Mike Honcho said:

Isn't the punishment for gambling in the NBA playing minor league baseball for a year?

 

On 10/23/2025 at 10:03 AM, Fnord said:

Somewhere David Stern and Michael Jordan are sitting around, puffing cigars and sipping whiskey, laughing their asses off about how easy it was to get away with this crap in the old days.

 

[seafoam1 3,390]

4 minutes ago, Fnord said:

 

 

Who cares? 

You?