2028 Presidential election

[posty 2,849]

God help us...

[Mr Fantasy 161]

As sad as I am losing him as Governor I hope Meatball Ron runs again. Hopefully he has different people running it than last time. 

[SaintsInDome2006 800]

There will be a dozen candidates in both parties’ primaries, but my guess is by 2027 Vance will be president. He’s an awful campaigner though, he barely won in deep red Ohio. 

[supermike80 2,156]

32 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

There will be a dozen candidates in both parties’ primaries, but my guess is by 2027 Vance will be president. He’s an awful campaigner though, he barely won in deep red Ohio. 

Just like in 2024, I think Vance's electability will come down to who the democratic party decides to nominate.  Trump won mostly because Kamala was a horrible choice to be President.  Not to mention, the democratic party is fractured and in shambles.  

[Frozenbeernuts 2,438]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

I seriously doubt that it will be a huge part of his political campaign, although it will be a talking point the GOP and MAGA crowd uses against him.

He just brought it up.

[Gepetto 1,482]

Can we just choose Rubio over Vance in the Primaries?

[SaintsInDome2006 800]

26 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Just like in 2024, I think Vance's electability will come down to who the democratic party decides to nominate.  Trump won mostly because Kamala was a horrible choice to be President.  Not to mention, the democratic party is fractured and in shambles.  

I agree.

Vance reminds me of Harris & Hillary, a hothouse flower,  They all came out as Senators of deeply safe states & never showed any real retail popular appeal.

Dems have now won a majority of the popular vote 3 of the last 5 elections, the GOP has won it zero times (& once since 1988). The Dems have won a plurality 4 of the last 5 (GOP once). When the Dems have had a robust primary they’ve won 3 of 3 times, when they had a party selected candidate they’ve lost both times.

Obama & Trump were populists & maybe 300 precincts that have been swinging wildly are controlling presidential elections. Really this country has been schizophrenic since the 90s.

And the GOP has its own schism going on.

[squistion 2,663]

1 minute ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

He just brought it up.

link?

[edjr 7,039]

34 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Just like in 2024, I think Vance's electability will come down to who the democratic party decides to nominate.  Trump won mostly because Kamala was a horrible choice to be President.  Not to mention, the democratic party is fractured and in shambles.  

Who was the last president of the United States that got elected because of him and not because of hatred towards the other person. Who actually votes for the person they like?

[Horseman 2,724]

2 hours ago, dogcows said:

Billionaires keep increasing their wealth.

Millionaires too.  

[SaintsInDome2006 800]

10 minutes ago, edjr said:

Who was the last president of the United States that got elected because of him and not because of hatred towards the other person. Who actually votes for the person they like?

Sadly I kind of agree with this. Mad over inflation & Gaza, mad over Covid, mad over emails, mad over the economy & Iraq, mad over Lewinsky, mad over ‘no new taxes’…

[Fnord 2,644]

12 minutes ago, edjr said:

Who was the last president of the United States that got elected because of him and not because of hatred towards the other person. Who actually votes for the person they like?

Possibly Clinton, otherwise Reagan. It's been a while.

[weepaws 3,429]

5 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

As of now it will be between Vance and Newsome. Who will you vote for?

It won’t matter, same government, US gets closer to the end of freedom. One is a evil person, the other is married to a Muslim,, I hope someone one righteous runs.  Heck maybe I will.   Let’s all vote for me.  

[Hardcore troubadour 16,057]

Trump is gross but has good ideas. Newsome is gross and has terrible ideas. 

[edjr 7,039]

10 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Possibly Clinton, otherwise Reagan. It's been a while.

That is the problem. How can you be happy when you pick the least worst of the bunch. Like how most guys here picked dey wives

[GobbleDog 1,019]

6 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

As of now it will be between Vance and Newsome. Who will you vote for?

I'll vote for anyone, and I do mean ANYONE, over Vance. Dude is a total worm.  

[dogcows 1,265]

24 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Trump is gross but has good ideas.

Name two.

[Horseman 2,724]

1 minute ago, dogcows said:

Name two.

Tax breaks for the rich and mass deportation.  

Too easy. 

[dogcows 1,265]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

Tax breaks for the rich and mass deportation.  

Too easy. 

Too stupid. These are his least popular issues in the polls now because other than the kool-aid drinkers, everybody can see what wasteful massive failures they are.

[Horseman 2,724]

12 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Too stupid. These are his least popular issues in the polls now because other than the kool-aid drinkers, everybody can see what wasteful massive failures they are.

Who cares. It's what I voted for.  Tax reform was made permanent and the border is closed.

[WhiteWonder 3,011]

4 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Part of Newsome's platform will be to claim he has done the most for trans kids rights. The fact that this is such a large deal should raise red flags to potential Newsome voters.

Logically, one would think the normal % of kids born to the wrong gender would be a very small %. Yet the number spiked when it became such a hot button issue. It's not normal to believe you are the wrong gender.

Because the left lied and said trans kids were missing rights even though they have the same rights as any kid, the issue got bigger. Kids who would have never questioned their gender all of a sudden were confused or seeking attention.

While you have proven yourself to be quite the nut job over the last several years, I do agree with you on this. However, I am not sure how pig a part of Newsome's platform this would be... and I am 100% sure that liberals will claim it to be "a very small, not worth worrying about" part of his platform. 

But yes, trans, non binary, they them, etc are all things that became trendy for teens and preteens.  And, as we all know, the left has become the party of obscure, marginalized groups. If they don't have enough to shout about, they will create them. 

[FrancieFootball 277]

1 hour ago, Gepetto said:

Can we just choose Rubio over Vance in the Primaries?

I've voted for Rubio in primaries before, and I might vote for him over Newsom.

[listen2me 23 1,968]

It will be a lot of laughs hearing all the "centrists" here turn into Newsome fans when most all of them have said he is terrible for years.  

[Horseman 2,724]

12 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said:

I've voted for Rubio in primaries before, and I might vote for him over Newsom.

 

[Grace Under Pressure 239]

1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Sadly I kind of agree with this. Mad over inflation & Gaza, mad over Covid, mad over emails, mad over the economy & Iraq, mad over Lewinsky, mad over ‘no new taxes’…

I see this as a feature of Democracy, not a bug.

It’s not healthy to overly “like” the President. They’re supposed to serve 4 years, a maximum of 2 times, and be an advocate for the 300 million Americans, not just the top 1% wealthiest. 

They’re supposed do this by being stewards of Defense spending, Social Security and Medicare. Those are the 3 areas of the Federal government that make up the spending. Most other stuff is noise.

Fervent support of a president leads to authoritarianism like regimes and cult-like behavior. It’s unhealthy, for individuals and society. Don’t worship a politician, or anyone for that matter. 

[Fnord 2,644]

1 hour ago, edjr said:

That is the problem. How can you be happy when you pick the least worst of the bunch. Like how most guys here picked dey wives

Up until 2020, I've always left POTUS blank on my ballot. Up until then I had a personal rule to only vote for candidates that I thought were actually good, not just lesser of evils.

Fock DJT, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and the entirety of both party's leadership for doing this to us. 

[Mr Fantasy 161]

50 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said:

I've voted for Rubio in primaries before, and I might vote for him over Newsom.

Little Marco lit up the EU today

 

I think the next president is coming out of Florida 

[Grace Under Pressure 239]

The best part is the primaries begin in January 2028. Just over 24 months from now. No more presidents named Obama, Biden, Trump, Bush, or Clinton. It’s been a run, and not in a good way.

330 million Americans. We can do better. 

[avoiding injuries 1,655]

19 hours ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Newsome will have to pick a black transgender woman as his running mate to offset his white male privilege. Michelle Obama?

As a conservative I was most worried about Michelle jumping in the race last election. A year later and I think she has created so much fatigue about herself that she’s a has been. We’re over being lectured. 

[avoiding injuries 1,655]

17 hours ago, edjr said:

Who was the last president of the United States that got elected because of him and not because of hatred towards the other person. Who actually votes for the person they like?

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[avoiding injuries 1,655]

16 hours ago, WhiteWonder said:

While you have proven yourself to be quite the nut job over the last several years, I do agree with you on this. However, I am not sure how pig a part of Newsome's platform this would be... and I am 100% sure that liberals will claim it to be "a very small, not worth worrying about" part of his platform. 

But yes, trans, non binary, they them, etc are all things that became trendy for teens and preteens.  And, as we all know, the left has become the party of obscure, marginalized groups. If they don't have enough to shout about, they will create them. 

I believe we’ve already passed the peak of this insanity and are coming back down the other side to reality. The trans movement is a dead voting issue and politicians would be fools to anchor themselves to it. 

[Tree of Knowledge 2,265]

24 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

I believe we’ve already passed the peak of this insanity and are coming back down the other side to reality. The trans movement is a dead voting issue and politicians would be fools to anchor themselves to it. 

I agree. However, those people never shut up and have nothing to lose. It’s like trying to break up with a crazy chick. 

[Hardcore troubadour 16,057]

1 hour ago, avoiding injuries said:

As a conservative I was most worried about Michelle jumping in the race last election. A year later and I think she has created so much fatigue about herself that she’s a has been. We’re over being lectured. 

The fatigue is real 

[edjr 7,039]

1 hour ago, avoiding injuries said:

45 47

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[Fnord 2,644]

4 hours ago, avoiding injuries said:

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Nah. He beat the most reviled woman in politics (at the time) in 2016. There were a helluva lot of Dems in 16 that refused to vote for her because of her history and baggage. She was supposed to be a lock. If those people had known Trump would win, she would've probably beat him electorally, and she still creamed him in the popular vote. In 2024 he beat a doddering old fool and his useless, ornamental sidekick because the old guy fell over himself one too many times and she didn't have enough time to mount a legit campaign after being foisted on us.

You guys waaaaaay overestimate Trump's appeal to average Americans.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,057]

More people reviled Pelosi than Hillary. Everyday I have to come here and straighten you guys out.  Get with it. 

[WhiteWonder 3,011]

23 hours ago, Gepetto said:

Can we just choose Rubio over Vance in the Primaries?

What are these primaries you speak of?   

[WhiteWonder 3,011]

Would Newsome currently be president had democrats acknowledged Biden's mental state sooner and/or held a primary? I highly doubt Kamala would have been running had there been a primary. 

[avoiding injuries 1,655]

15 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

Would Newsome currently be president had democrats acknowledged Biden's mental state sooner and/or held a primary? I highly doubt Kamala would have been running had there been a primary. 

Father Trump was coming back regardless. 

[WhiteWonder 3,011]

Just now, avoiding injuries said:

Father Trump was coming back regardless. 

Maybe, I just think it's funny how badly they flubbed the process. I also think it's funny how much liberals cry about threats to democracy and dictatorships while their party was skipping a major part of our democratic process, and they were so eager to vote for a dictated candidate.