gcmmidwest 98 Posted November 11, 2013 Denver is favored by 7 over / under is 58.5 If the Chiefs win they get the credit they deserve & if not they get criticized. if i was a betting man i'd take the under Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheUsualSuspect 207 Posted November 11, 2013 "My prediction?... Pain." 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted November 11, 2013 It's Broncos, not Bronco's... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p.man 7 Posted November 11, 2013 I am slightly worried about Moreno in that game, but the Chiefs have been giving up yardage to Rb's. Manning having a key word here..."High" ankle sprain would worry me too. Aren't they worse and take longer to heal than a lower ankle sprain? D.Thomas and Moreno worry me, but I will most likely start both. The game is at home which is a good thing for Denver, but I also have Charles. That will be a fun game to watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Upper Class Trash 67 Posted November 11, 2013 I'd say something along the lines of 38 to 24 in favor of the Broncos. Manning & Company will be able to score on them as other teams with much less firepower have. If the Chiefs blitz non-stop, they have a shot to keep this close.. For a while. They don't have the WR's to compete TD for TD and they are seriously lacking in the downfield threat department. I have to think the Broncos will focus much more on their offensive game plan and just let whatever happens with the defense, happen. I think the Chiefs have feasted on inferior opponents to date, but they aren't a "bad" team. That said, Denver IS a great team on the offensive side of the ball and I just don't see Alex Smith being able to keep pace. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,382 Posted November 11, 2013 Manning having a key word here..."High" ankle sprain would worry me too. . Hasnt it been "high" since week 6? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perennial Contender 18 Posted November 11, 2013 34-17 Broncos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boilermaker04 11 Posted November 11, 2013 Manning can't run up the score if the Chiefs play ball control and keep him off the field, but I do think Denver is the better unit right now and wins 24 - 21. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazywhorse 6 Posted November 11, 2013 26- 20 Chiefs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Bag-O-Bones 5 Posted November 11, 2013 35-17 Broncos. Manning tosses 5 td's but also throws a pick 6. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nzoner 936 Posted November 11, 2013 Denver is favored by 7 over / under is 58.5 If the Chiefs win they get the credit they deserve & if not they get criticized. if i was a betting man i'd take the under Where the hell did you see 58.5,Scores and Odds is showing 51 and that's up from where it opened at 49. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcmmidwest 98 Posted November 11, 2013 Where the hell did you see 58.5,Scores and Odds is showing 51 and that's up from where it opened at 49. http://www.ibtimes.com/denver-broncos-san-diego-chargers-2013-betting-odds-prediction-preview-1463032 don't know where they got it ...guess it's not a reliable source Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BTL99 34 Posted November 11, 2013 Broncos are gonna rape them badly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antiramie 50 Posted November 11, 2013 14-12 Broncos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 11, 2013 I know the Chiefs DEF have been very studly and you don't bench your studs but I can't put them in this game. Not in Mile High; K.C. Offense isn't potent and that DEF will be gassed the second half in Denver. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
H-man 12 Posted November 12, 2013 IDK though, over the last 3 weeks Broncos have been 3rd most generous to opposing fantasy defenses, and 9th most generous last 5 weeks. Not offering an opinion, just a stat to consider. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
H-man 12 Posted November 12, 2013 Another thing, most people here seem to think that just b/c the Chiefs DEF has been the best FANTASY defense, doesn't mean they're as downright golden in real life as they are in fantasy. It's not a hard argument to make that in real life, the Chiefs aren't a top 3 defense. I'd have the Panthers and Seahawks ahead of them with several others tied such as Arizona. One thing the Chiefs are tops at in real life AND fantasy, however, is shutting down tight ends. Football Outsiders has them ranked #1 against the TE, and on the season they are also ranked #1 w/ the fewest points allowed to the tight end position at 3.5 points per game. Maybe, temper expectation for Julius Thomas... I however, wouldn't seeing as how they split him out wide a lot now and he is top RZ look for Manning. He even stole away snaps at WR from Welker this week. Even comprehensive, highly specific stats aren't everything. Start your stud. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 755 Posted November 12, 2013 I'd say something along the lines of 38 to 24 in favor of the Broncos. Manning & Company will be able to score on them as other teams with much less firepower have. If the Chiefs blitz non-stop, they have a shot to keep this close.. For a while. They don't have the WR's to compete TD for TD and they are seriously lacking in the downfield threat department. I have to think the Broncos will focus much more on their offensive game plan and just let whatever happens with the defense, happen. I think the Chiefs have feasted on inferior opponents to date, but they aren't a "bad" team. That said, Denver IS a great team on the offensive side of the ball and I just don't see Alex Smith being able to keep pace. where do you guys come up with this stuff? This is the first team in nfl history to not allow more than 17 points to any opponent through 9 games lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 755 Posted November 12, 2013 Another thing, most people here seem to think that just b/c the Chiefs DEF has been the best FANTASY defense, doesn't mean they're as downright golden in real life as they are in fantasy. It's not a hard argument to make that in real life, the Chiefs aren't a top 3 defense. I'd have the Panthers and Seahawks ahead of them with several others tied such as Arizona. One thing the Chiefs are tops at in real life AND fantasy, however, is shutting down tight ends. Football Outsiders has them ranked #1 against the TE, and on the season they are also ranked #1 w/ the fewest points allowed to the tight end position at 3.5 points per game. Maybe, temper expectation for Julius Thomas... I however, wouldn't seeing as how they split him out wide a lot now and he is top RZ look for Manning. He even stole away snaps at WR from Welker this week. Even comprehensive, highly specific stats aren't everything. Start your stud. dude, thus far this is an outright historic defense for the nfl. The argument can be made that their opponents have been lacking, but still the defense is taking care of business and the primary reason this team is 9-0. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raider 84 29 Posted November 12, 2013 I'd like to see them both lose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike FF Today 608 Posted November 12, 2013 I'd like to see them both lose. I doubt that will happen. The current line I'm seeing is Denver -8.5 with an O/U of 50. I may be in a place to legally place a wager and my initial thought is Denver and the under... I'll give it some more thought tomorrow during my game research for the projections. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted November 12, 2013 Chiefs win this game. It's too big a game for manning to not let it slip by. Not saying he won't have 300 3tds, but he will miss some key 3rd downs, commit a bad turnover and the broncos will allow them to kick a winning fg. Book it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
track 1 16 Posted November 12, 2013 manning chokes in big games 3-0 chiefs in overtime 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prof Poopcicle 3 Posted November 12, 2013 manning chokes in big games 3-0 chiefs in overtime haha, I will hurl myself off a bridge if this is the outcome of the game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
$epphori$ 118 Posted November 12, 2013 manning chokes in big games 3-0 chiefs in overtime I was thinking more like 4-3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giraldi02 470 Posted November 13, 2013 Chiefs win a close one by getting pressure on Manning. I'd say Manning gets sacked four times, hit a couple more, and throws a costly pick in the 4th. 23-17 Chiefs. Remember....Andy Reid has only lost one time after a bye week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boilermaker04 11 Posted November 13, 2013 Anyone ambitious (or bored) enough to total up the thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 647 Posted November 13, 2013 Bowe will shine.....but Denver wins by 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,584 Posted November 13, 2013 Another thing, most people here seem to think that just b/c the Chiefs DEF has been the best FANTASY defense, doesn't mean they're as downright golden in real life as they are in fantasy. It's not a hard argument to make that in real life, the Chiefs aren't a top 3 defense. I'd have the Panthers and Seahawks ahead of them with several others tied such as Arizona. One thing the Chiefs are tops at in real life AND fantasy, however, is shutting down tight ends. Football Outsiders has them ranked #1 against the TE, and on the season they are also ranked #1 w/ the fewest points allowed to the tight end position at 3.5 points per game. Maybe, temper expectation for Julius Thomas... I however, wouldn't seeing as how they split him out wide a lot now and he is top RZ look for Manning. He even stole away snaps at WR from Welker this week. Even comprehensive, highly specific stats aren't everything. Start your stud. TE's vs Chiefs Jax - I dont even know who it is Witten- 3-12 (the only good TE they shut out) Celek - bleh Myers - bleh Walker - bleh Rivera - bleh GGraham - bleh Cameron - 4-81 (12.1) Chandler - bleh so them being no 1 vs the TE's is irrelevant, every guy on the list except Witten, is outside the top 15, besides Cameron, who actually produced Julius 5-70 and 1 td Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p.man 7 Posted November 13, 2013 Moreno should be able to combine for at least 80 yards and a possible Td. I see him playing more in this game due to the Chiefs being up by 1 game and it being a big divisional game. All hands on deck and that means your best players hands..With the Chiefs not allowing teams more than 17, I do think that Manning alone is worth at least 10 points by himself. You add Moreno and Pratter and you get at least 24 to 27 points. The Chiefs Qb is not a Qb who commands points by himself, and that is where the Chiefs lack the most. Their defense and J.Charles are worth 17 points and if you give A.Smith 1 passing Td, you end up with 24. Either team wins by a 27-24 margin. Add in a turnover and it could turn out to be a 31-27 game. I will say that the Chiefs will win 31-27 due to the Broncos defense not being as good as the Chiefs and because Manning is not 100%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcmmidwest 98 Posted November 13, 2013 bet365 (reliable odds) has it Chiefs +8 over/under 49.5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
H-man 12 Posted November 14, 2013 TE's vs Chiefs Jax - I dont even know who it is Witten- 3-12 (the only good TE they shut out) Celek - bleh Myers - bleh Walker - bleh Rivera - bleh GGraham - bleh Cameron - 4-81 (12.1) Chandler - bleh so them being no 1 vs the TE's is irrelevant, every guy on the list except Witten, is outside the top 15, besides Cameron, who actually produced Julius 5-70 and 1 td I hardly think a sample of nine tight ends is simply "irrelevant". But I do agree that Orange Julius will not be fazed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcmmidwest 98 Posted November 14, 2013 i'm wondering if peyton even finishes this game,and who is the back up brock osweiler? dude is listed at 6'8'' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 14, 2013 Peyton's injury is much ado about nothing. Probably just the Broncos pulling a Belichick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
L_O_D 1 Posted November 14, 2013 i'm wondering if peyton even finishes this game,and who is the back up brock osweiler? dude is listed at 6'8'' That's him. I call him 'Twilight'. Look at his picture - he looks like that d-bag vampire kid Robert Pattinson. Prudent pickup for Manning owners. He can ball enough and w/ those weapons I like the upside. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perennial Contender 18 Posted November 15, 2013 Manning has been getting beat up and the Chiefs are sack machine for what it's worth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p.man 7 Posted November 15, 2013 Manning has been getting beat up and the Chiefs are sack machine for what it's worth. One of the morning sports shows had on a Dr asking about Manning's high ankle sprain and the Dr said that his bone is in an unstable state. The Dr said that if Peyton gets hit the wrong way on his already week ankle, he is most likely going to need screws inserted to keep the leg/ankle stable. That would be season ending. He used a word to better describe it, but I forgot what it was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shredhead 21 Posted November 15, 2013 Anyone ambitious (or bored) enough to total up the thread? Quick count I came up with 9 for Broncos, 5 for Chiefs, and Raider wants both teams to lose. I'll throw in my vote to make it 10-5 Broncos. What I want to know is how the die hard Chief fans are feeling about this game. I've been a die hard Donkeys fan for 40+ years, and I am not worried about this game in the slightest bit. I think Denver wins by 20 points. I imagine Chief fans are nervous, and I think they should be. I was more worried about the road game in Sandy Eggo than i am about this weeks game. I'm more nervous about going to Foxborough next week than I am this week. Maybe I'm crazy, but I have a confident calmness about this game (The one in Arrowhead in 2 weeks will be a different story) I know this sounds cocky, but it's truly my gut feeling. Any die hard Chief fans feel just as confident about their chances? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nzoner 936 Posted November 15, 2013 Quick count I came up with 9 for Broncos, 5 for Chiefs, and Raider wants both teams to lose. I'll throw in my vote to make it 10-5 Broncos. What I want to know is how the die hard Chief fans are feeling about this game. I've been a die hard Donkeys fan for 40+ years, and I am not worried about this game in the slightest bit. I think Denver wins by 20 points. I imagine Chief fans are nervous, and I think they should be. I was more worried about the road game in Sandy Eggo than i am about this weeks game. I'm more nervous about going to Foxborough next week than I am this week. Maybe I'm crazy, but I have a confident calmness about this game (The one in Arrowhead in 2 weeks will be a different story) I know this sounds cocky, but it's truly my gut feeling. Any die hard Chief fans feel just as confident about their chances? Chiefs fan 30+ years and no I don't feel as confident but I think that's only fitting seeing that it's a road game.I know it can be done though as I was at Mile High for the '94 MNF game between our teams when Joe Montana took John Elway to school.This time around we have no Joe Montana but I do believe we have a defense that is capable of slowing Denver down and I'd not only be surprised but also feeling quite sick if this D allows us to lose by 20 or more. That said,if KC loses a close game and then takes care of Denver in Arrowhead I'll still feel good about our team.I just hope both teams give the national audience an epic game and if it happens to turn out like 1994 all the better. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites