wiffleball 4,799 Posted March 4, 2009 Was watching some of the footage about them calling off the search for the missing boaters. One of the family members (the guy's Dad, I believe) talked about how things got pretty crazy and some people had to be sedated - the coast guard actually had to call for paramedics to sedate some people. Which got me to thinking: Why is it that many non-white women react so violently, so over the top when they get news that their loved one died? They scream, wail and beat on people who tell them. Don't get me wrong - Obviously, most Moms are going to be upset at this kind of news. I'm using my own context here. I lost my Brother a few years back. I'm talking about the WAAAAAAAAAAY over the top violent denial screaming crap that you see from primarily Blacks and Arabs. (requisite qualier - Yes, I know, not all blacks and arabs, no shiit). You've got ones that beat the hell out of folks, scream - even faint. I don't understand that. My brother died suddenly, unexpectedly, way too young. We were all sad, but we didn't pull this over the top bullshiit. Honest to God, when I see this crap, I think "they're trying to outdo each other". Oh, Velma's crying? I'll scream! Oh, Taneesha's screaming? I'll beat up someone! Oh, screaming and crying and beating's done? I'll 'faint'! You see the damn Arab women - Palestinian, Iraqi - whatever - and they make this HUGE show of it. Whereas in white culture, we generally grieve privately. ostentatious displays of 'grief' are discouraged and just plain rude. It's not about you at the funeral, it's about the kid in the box you focking attention whoare. I dunno, I'm asking a serious question. And I know whites can do this and blacks don't all do this and yadda focking yadda, obviously, this is a general question. Anybody else notice this? Have any theories on this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,868 Posted March 4, 2009 Because there is a camera in their face... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted March 4, 2009 Because white's know how to act. Period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 316 Posted March 4, 2009 RACE connects to WEALTHconnects to EDUCATION connects to INTELLIGENCE connects to BEHAVIOR the British Colonists probably thought the Indians in the New World behaved pretty focked up too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,728 Posted March 4, 2009 That's nothing. Tell them there's no chicken nuggets left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GettnHuge 2 Posted March 4, 2009 cause they can't get flagged for 15? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,799 Posted March 4, 2009 That's nothing. Tell them there's no chicken nuggets left. Okay, that made me . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 876 Posted March 4, 2009 Blacks and arabs (generally speaking) worship is different ways as well, both generally speaking more "over-the-top". Or were you looking for the "have you ever heard 'em in a movie theater" response? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,799 Posted March 4, 2009 RACE connects to WEALTHconnects to EDUCATION connects to INTELLIGENCE connects to BEHAVIOR the British Colonists probably thought the Indians in the New World behaved pretty focked up too. You may be on to something. I understand that I'm looking at this with a cultural bias. I think the behavior is ostentatious and rude, but I'm sure others in their community don't look at it with the same white, puritanical sense that we do. Just like other cultures think some of the things we do are rude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DAVID RUFFIN 3 Posted March 4, 2009 Because there is a camera in their face... That is the dumbest thing I've read in a long time. A black family loses a loved one and you think their wailing for the camera. How does it feel to wake up every morning filled with hate for an entire race of people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 876 Posted March 4, 2009 Just like other cultures think some of the things we do are rude. Cultural differences are amazing. For instance, in my company we have a specific group of folks, of the same ethnicity, that think nothing of hocking loogies in the sink in our company kitchen. Loud enough for people to hear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 31 Posted March 4, 2009 That's nothing. Tell them there's no chicken nuggets left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ToadSprocket 12 Posted March 4, 2009 I don't think that's considered a racist question. Maybe a little intolerant of other cultures and our differences. I gotta tell you, my grandmother almost wouldn't let the funeral home close the casket when they buried my grandfather. Then one of my aunts begged for them to open it one last time at the graveyard. Sort of flipped me out a little. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted March 4, 2009 I'll attempt a serious answer. The answer is that white (by which I mean Anglo-Saxon British or Germanic descended) culture is very different from the Latin (French, Italian, Spanish) and Middle Eastern,Slavic, Indian (dots not feathers) and African cultures. One of the key manifestations of this is that I think white culture is much more... stultified? in public than the others. White children, and especially women, were traditionally brought up to never, ever, make a scene in public. I remember numerous occasions where my mother punished us, not because of what we did per se, but because we did it in public. The other cultures, on the other hand, seem to encourage more... exuberance from its members. Its what the Italians call La Dolce Vita (the good life) the French call joie de vivre (the joy of life) etc. and so on. In America, the two traditional cultures, Black and White, seem to massively disagree with one another as to public decorum. White people (and this is deteriorating rapidly) generally wouldn't be caught dead arguing or showing emotion in public. Black people generally don't give a fock who is watching. One of the saddest things to me is the complete and utter collapse of manners in this country. Nobody seems to give a fock anymore. They will speak loudly on their phones anywhere. They have no courtesy whatsoever. And they let their children behave like feral animals. I remember having my ass whooped in the parking lots of numerous restaraunts as a child. Today they would arrest you for that. I think the reason for this is that violence has been completely legislated out of our society. Thirty years ago, if some jackass walked into a restaraunt and proceeded to talk loudly into a phone (ignore the fact they didn't exist) he would have promptly had his ass kicked, and the cops wouldn't have cared. Now, you can't ever hit anyone. So there are no rules anymore. So in short, it is all in how you are raised. As children, none of us care a whit about making a scene in public. Those of us who are caucasian gradually had that beaten and nagged into us by our parents. Those of other cultures often do not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,728 Posted March 4, 2009 The greiving process is supposed to be more difficult when the body is not recovered...like in this case where they were lost to the sea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franknbeans 46 Posted March 4, 2009 whites are emotionally repressed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,868 Posted March 4, 2009 That is the dumbest thing I've read in a long time. A black family loses a loved one and you think their wailing for the camera. If one isn't found then no, but put one around... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,799 Posted March 4, 2009 I'll attempt a serious answer. The answer is that white (by which I mean Anglo-Saxon British or Germanic descended) culture is very different from the Latin (French, Italian, Spanish) and Middle Eastern,Slavic, Indian (dots not feathers) and African cultures. One of the key manifestations of this is that I think white culture is much more... stultified? in public than the others. White children, and especially women, were traditionally brought up to never, ever, make a scene in public. I remember numerous occasions where my mother punished us, not because of what we did per se, but because we did it in public. The other cultures, on the other hand, seem to encourage more... exuberance from its members. Its what the Italians call La Dolce Vita (the good life) the French call joie de vivre (the joy of life) etc. and so on. In America, the two traditional cultures, Black and White, seem to massively disagree with one another as to public decorum. White people (and this is deteriorating rapidly) generally wouldn't be caught dead arguing or showing emotion in public. Black people generally don't give a fock who is watching. One of the saddest things to me is the complete and utter collapse of manners in this country. Nobody seems to give a fock anymore. They will speak loudly on their phones anywhere. They have no courtesy whatsoever. And they let their children behave like feral animals. I remember having my ass whooped in the parking lots of numerous restaraunts as a child. Today they would arrest you for that. I think the reason for this is that violence has been completely legislated out of our society. Thirty years ago, if some jackass walked into a restaraunt and proceeded to talk loudly into a phone (ignore the fact they didn't exist) he would have promptly had his ass kicked, and the cops wouldn't have cared. Now, you can't ever hit anyone. So there are no rules anymore. So in short, it is all in how you are raised. As children, none of us care a whit about making a scene in public. Those of us who are caucasian gradually had that beaten and nagged into us by our parents. Those of other cultures often do not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cortezthekiller303 0 Posted March 4, 2009 Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo racist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 315 Posted March 4, 2009 Because there is a camera in their face... Beat me to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 2,037 Posted March 4, 2009 because white people in general are dead spiritually. people of color on the other hand have emotions to show. hth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 790 Posted March 4, 2009 because white people in general aren't attention hoors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,275 Posted March 4, 2009 because white people in general are dead spiritually. people of color on the other hand have emotions to show. hth You are funny peenie. I dont think it has anything to do with race. It has to do more with family dynamics and the slightly unhinged people you have in your family. I have seen white people do the exact thing you are describing. Especially in the south. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 2,037 Posted March 4, 2009 clearly i was giving a racist answer to a racist question. why didn't you use that wonderful logic on wiffle's question instead of mine? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,175 Posted March 4, 2009 clearly i was giving a racist answer to a racist question. How was the question "racist"? Seriously. Also, titansbucsohmy hit the nail on the head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted March 4, 2009 clearly i was giving a racist answer to a racist question.why didn't you use that wonderful logic on wiffle's question instead of mine? Its not a racist question, per se. It is "why are the two races different in a certain regard." The answer is, "cultural differences." Now, you can argue that a judgment that one is better than the other is racist, but the question is not. Aren't PC freaks always telling us to "respect each other's differences?" How do we do that if it is racist to even discuss them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 2,037 Posted March 4, 2009 okay, so why jump on my answer then? i'm just stating a cultural difference; blacks aren't too loud, whites are simply too quiet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,799 Posted March 4, 2009 okay, so why jump on my answer then? i'm just stating a cultural difference; blacks aren't too loud, whites are simply too quiet. You can never be too quiet. And I mean literally YOU can never be too quiet. Try it sometime. Like now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted March 4, 2009 okay, so why jump on my answer then? i'm just stating a cultural difference; blacks aren't too loud, whites are simply too quiet. Ah see, but use of the word "too" is a judgment. Now, if you said, as we were, that "blacks are louder than whites" that is merely pointing out a difference. Now, for the record, I don't give a sh!t if its racist or not. I think that as a general rule, black people are entirely too loud, and generally obnoxious in public. Take a movie theatre as a common example. You see, the reason we are generally quiet, and more reserved, has nothing to do with being repressed, or emotionally dead. It's a little thing called courtesy. We don't feel that it is proper to cackle and hoot and holler and thereby disturb and annoy everyone within a 50 foot radius. That's just how we roll. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,283 Posted March 4, 2009 okay, so why jump on my answer then? i'm just stating a cultural difference; blacks have no concept of how to behave, whites are simply a little farther along in cultural maturity. Fixed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,175 Posted March 4, 2009 okay, so why jump on my answer then? i'm just stating a cultural difference; blacks aren't too loud, whites are simply too quiet. See, this thread was actually civil and looking deeper into the cultural differences of races. Now you just opened it up by being stupid and yelling racist. Congrats. Pretty much a mircrocosim of how whites cannot talk about race in this country because we are immediately labled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted March 4, 2009 Fixed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted March 4, 2009 now they know theyll have to get a jobby job?... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 1,023 Posted March 4, 2009 Being loud in public isn't a matter of race, it's a matter of class. Wealth and class are often correlated (generalization with many exceptions); so people from poor families typically have the least amount of class. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,799 Posted March 4, 2009 Being loud in public isn't a matter of race, it's a matter of class. Wealth and class are often correlated (generalization with many exceptions); so people from poor families typically have the least amount of class. Wealthist! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,175 Posted March 4, 2009 Being loud in public isn't a matter of race, it's a matter of class. Wealth and class are often correlated (generalization with many exceptions); so people from poor families typically have the least amount of class. This is somewhat true. But not entirely. I would venture to guess that Lil Wayne and his posse rev it up in a movie theatre and he is loaded. I was lower middle class growing up. However my mom would have kicked my rear end if I acted up in public. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites