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I just realized that the writers are probably going to use the easy way out to solve all the unsolved issues on lost.

 

The GOD excuse. Like, oh, that happened because GOD did it.

 

The Jacob/MIB excuse.

 

The numbers. Oh, Jacob had a thing with numbers.

What about Hurley winning the lottery with those numbers and seeing them all the time? Oh, Jacob did it.

What about the Dharma food drop in season 2's "Dave"? Oh, MIB did it to test Hurley.

 

 

idk...feels like it might be their safest and easiest way out.

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Jack's father, Christian, is not really needed anymore. MIB disguised himself as Christian to manipulate Locke, Jack, and Claire. Now, there really is no reason to appear as Christian.

 

Seems strange that Claire knows MIB isn't Locke yet had just previously mentioned her dad and "friend" as separate people. When Hurley looked in the cabin we saw Christian in the chair and then someone else's (MIB?) eye. Jack and Hurley stopping by the caves to remind us that Christian's body is missing in both time lines seems like maybe something more is going on with him.

 

Plenty of reasons to think MIB was the Christian we have seen but things have certainly been left open that he may not have been.

 

 

Also curious as to why Christian if MIB made an appearance and told Sun to wait for Locke at the barracks. Seemed to have nothing to do with his plan to kill Jacob and he then just left her at the statue. What was the point?

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Seems strange that Claire knows MIB isn't Locke yet had just previously mentioned her dad and "friend" as separate people.

 

She is caring for a "baby" she made out of dead animal pelts and a polar bear skull...focking anything associated with this batshit crazy b1tch is gonna be strange.

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She is caring for a "baby" she made out of dead animal pelts and a polar bear skull...focking anything associated with this batshit crazy b1tch is gonna be strange.

 

I thought the same thing. No wonder Jin told her whatever she needed to hear.

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I have to say...I'm losing the faith. Up until this season, I always believed they were going to pull it all together at the end and we were all going to say "aha! Awesome!". Now, I'm not so sure.

 

We seem to be heading towards a conclusion in which someone becomes protector of the island, either MIB or Jacob wins or there game just continues with new pieces. Whatever......But it honestly doesn't feel like any of that has anything to do with the first few seasons of the show.

 

Honestly, it almost feels like they changed course midway through the story arc....I liked the idea that the island was the key piece in a big game of Axis and Allies or Risk or something, being played by Widmore and Ben or someone a level higher (Jacob and MIB) than them maybe......I could have gotten on board with some Atlantis or Purgatory type reveal.....

 

and maybe something still happens like that, but it just feels like they decided they needed to totally change direction at halftime and made much of the previous story inconsequential. I guess the end will be something along the lines of "Free Will vs Fate", but it isn't making much sense right now.

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I have to say...I'm losing the faith. Up until this season, I always believed they were going to pull it all together at the end and we were all going to say "aha! Awesome!". Now, I'm not so sure.

 

We seem to be heading towards a conclusion in which someone becomes protector of the island, either MIB or Jacob wins or there game just continues with new pieces. Whatever......But it honestly doesn't feel like any of that has anything to do with the first few seasons of the show.

 

Honestly, it almost feels like they changed course midway through the story arc....I liked the idea that the island was the key piece in a big game of Axis and Allies or Risk or something, being played by Widmore and Ben or someone a level higher (Jacob and MIB) than them maybe......I could have gotten on board with some Atlantis or Purgatory type reveal.....

 

and maybe something still happens like that, but it just feels like they decided they needed to totally change direction at halftime and made much of the previous story inconsequential. I guess the end will be something along the lines of "Free Will vs Fate", but it isn't making much sense right now.

Patience. Every season starts like this...complete confusion. I have confidence they will tie things together in the next few weeks.

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Seems strange that Claire knows MIB isn't Locke yet had just previously mentioned her dad and "friend" as separate people. When Hurley looked in the cabin we saw Christian in the chair and then someone else's (MIB?) eye. Jack and Hurley stopping by the caves to remind us that Christian's body is missing in both time lines seems like maybe something more is going on with him.

 

Plenty of reasons to think MIB was the Christian we have seen but things have certainly been left open that he may not have been.

Also curious as to why Christian if MIB made an appearance and told Sun to wait for Locke at the barracks. Seemed to have nothing to do with his plan to kill Jacob and he then just left her at the statue. What was the point?

 

I have come to the conclusion that MIB is NOT Christian, Christian is something entirely differently. When MIB embodied John Locke, according to Ilana, he cannot change. Sun and Lapidus encountered Christian at Ben's house after MIB already made this transition. So if what Ilana is saying is correct, Christian is NOT MIB or smoky and never was. I think he is more associated with Jacob than anyone.

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I have come to the conclusion that MIB is NOT Christian, Christian is something entirely differently. When MIB embodied John Locke, according to Ilana, he cannot change. Sun and Lapidus encountered Christian at Ben's house after MIB already made this transition. So if what Ilana is saying is correct, Christian is NOT MIB or smoky and never was. I think he is more associated with Jacob than anyone.

Christian is "claimed" like Claire is.

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Christian is "claimed" like Claire is.

 

Maybe, but many people suspected he WAS smoky at one point, i am saying that was proven wrong in season 5 if Ilana is correct.

 

He is dead, i don't think dead people can be "claimed". I think he could be a neutral party on the island or something.

 

Claire is off her focking rocker. My gawd it's hot.

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I have come to the conclusion that MIB is NOT Christian, Christian is something entirely differently. When MIB embodied John Locke, according to Ilana, he cannot change. Sun and Lapidus encountered Christian at Ben's house after MIB already made this transition. So if what Ilana is saying is correct, Christian is NOT MIB or smoky and never was. I think he is more associated with Jacob than anyone.

 

I spent a lot of time complaining that MIB and Smokie can't be at two places at once, like you seem to think. Christian talks to Frank and Sun while MIB Locke talke to Ben on Hydra island.

 

 

Tell that to the pop ups in the enhanced episodes who have clearly stated MIB=Smokie.

 

Also, Sun and Frank didn't encounter Christian at Ben's house. They did at the Dharma processing station.

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He is dead, i don't think dead people can be "claimed". I think he could be a neutral party on the island or something.

 

 

If you can shape shift into a dead person, there is no reason to worry about claiming.

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If you can shape shift into a dead person, there is no reason to worry about claiming.

 

The bigger question is...who the fock was projecting the image of Walt (and possibly "Aaron")? As far as I know, that's the only time that someone not physically dead on the island manifested in physical form on the Island. Yemi, Locke, Christian were all bodies on the Island; ones you could argue all died of their own Free Will.

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I've said a few times that there's a third supernatural character running around (and off) the island.

 

Personally, I think it's the island itself - Walt, the blond boy, and Christian are the island setting things right. If Smokey is the black rock and Jacob is the white rock, then the island is the scales. It's all about balance and "the rules." The island is the Christian that appeared to Claire. The island is the thing that prevented Michael from killing himself. The island is the Christian that allowed Michael to kill himself on the tanker. The island is also the Christian that appeared to Jack in LA.

 

The Christian in the cabin wasn't Smokey/MIB because Smokey/MIB was already free. He'd been gone for awhile. If he hadn't been, Ben would have been meeting with him for years. But Ben clearly said he never met with anyone in the cabin. He'd been lying the whole time.

 

Smokey has been free for a long time. Maybe as far back as the 1970s.

 

Further, now that I think of it, I'm fairly sure the island is the one who demanded the sacrifice of Boone. Not Jacob. Not MIB.

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The lack of Ben this season has really sucked.

 

I agree. Ben has just been chillin after he killed Jacob, i think there is no way this can keep up, he is planning something.

 

Lack of Ben and the flash-sideways have been the downs of this season.

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I have to say...I'm losing the faith. Up until this season, I always believed they were going to pull it all together at the end and we were all going to say "aha! Awesome!". Now, I'm not so sure.

 

We seem to be heading towards a conclusion in which someone becomes protector of the island, either MIB or Jacob wins or there game just continues with new pieces. Whatever......But it honestly doesn't feel like any of that has anything to do with the first few seasons of the show.

 

Honestly, it almost feels like they changed course midway through the story arc....I liked the idea that the island was the key piece in a big game of Axis and Allies or Risk or something, being played by Widmore and Ben or someone a level higher (Jacob and MIB) than them maybe......I could have gotten on board with some Atlantis or Purgatory type reveal.....

 

and maybe something still happens like that, but it just feels like they decided they needed to totally change direction at halftime and made much of the previous story inconsequential. I guess the end will be something along the lines of "Free Will vs Fate", but it isn't making much sense right now.

 

Didn't the writers/producers at one time basically say just that? They wrote it figuring on a one to two season run and it turned into so much more. So they had to modify some things and finally they had to convince ABC to kill the shhow rather than let it run endlessely.

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Let's try a sober post for a change. An updated list...

 

2 - Lacombe (French guy)

4 - Locke (John)

8 - Reyes (Hugo)

10 - Mattingly (US Army)

12 - Foster

13 - Beckett

14 – Pryce (Other)

15 - Ford (James)

16 - Jarrah (Sayid)

17 - Barnes

18 - Kueffner

19 - Nguyen

20 - Rousseau (Robert, Danielle, or Alex)

21 - McHenly

22 - Moorhead

23 - Shephard (Jack or Christian)

24 - Kluxen

25 - Ashen

26 - Bozarth

27 - Dorrie

28 - Holland

29 – Brennan (French guy)

30 - Wade

31 - Toms

32 - Rutherford (Shannon)

33 - Novak

34 - Grimaldi

35 - Brennan

36 - Syzmanksi

37 - Torres

38 - Linsatrom

39 - Morioka

40 - Dowsen

42 - Kwon (Jin, Sun, or Ji Yeon)

43 - Barnes

44 – Martinez

48 - Stanhope (Goodwin, Other)

49 - Eko (Mr. or Yemi, depending on what their last name was)

51 - Austen

55 - Kennedy

56 - Hansen

58 - Burke (Juliet)

59 - Suzuki

60 - Kysea

64 – Goldstein

73 - Costa

77 - Franetzki

90 - Troupe (Gary, Lostie)

94 - Cohen

96 - Greeson

97 - Pallison

98 - Horton

99 - Sookson

100 - Barfield

101 - Faraday (Daniel)

102 - Montand (French guy)

103 - Horsman

104 - Lewis

106 – Radzinsky (Dharma)

107 - Thomson

108 - Wallace

109 - Friendly (Tom)

110 - Eipons

111 - Klein

112 - Horton

113 - Worden

114 - Yamada

115 - Bargas

116 - Lambert

117 - Linus (Roger, Ben, or Emily)

118 - Chavez

119 - Almieda

120 - Rodriguez

121 - Nielson

122 - Freed

124 - Dawson (Michael, Walt)

125 - Owens

126 - Renti

127 - Mora

128 - Paddock

129 - Campbell

130 - Tillman

134 – Chang (Dr Pierre or wife Lara)

140 - Lewis (Charlotte or her parents David, Jeanette)

171 – Straume (Miles)

175 - Costa

195 - Pace (Charlie)

197 – Sheckler

202 - Harggus

221 - Carlyle (Boone)

222 - O'Toole

231 - Amistad

233 – Jones (US Army)

249 – Garner

251 – Yaris

272 – Oralingo

282 - Aguila

285 – Jenkins (Steve, Lostie)

291 – Domingo

301 – Mars (US Marshall)

313 - Littleton (Claire or Aaron)

317 - Cunningham (US Army)

321 – Fernandez (Nikki, Lostie)

335 – Henderson (Rose’s maiden name)

337 - Martin

346 - Grant

 

?? – Davison

?? - Goodspeed (Horace or Ethan or Olivia or Amy)

?? – Pickett (Danny or Colleen, Others)

?? - Reynolds

?? – Sullivan (Lostie

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Didn't the writers/producers at one time basically say just that? They wrote it figuring on a one to two season run and it turned into so much more. So they had to modify some things and finally they had to convince ABC to kill the shhow rather than let it run endlessely.

 

I always heard the opposite. They always had the basic story arc planned from the beginning to the end.

 

Then once the show became a big hit, they started adding filler because they couldn't advance things too fast with no end date. Thus they started fighting for an end date. Once they got the end date, they got back on track and started pushing towards what was planned all along.

 

I could be wrong.

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Couple things that I noticed (or read about) in viewing The Lighthouse

 

Jacks son's house was number the same as "jack's number"....23.

 

The Candidates sign at Jack's son's audition.

 

The "You have what it takes" line in this season's episode #5 mirrors the "You don't have what it takes" line from episode #5 in the first season.

 

Several Alice in Wonderland references or images also connecting back to season one.

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Agreed. They put him on the plane for a reason. Desmond is the key to this whole thing. He'll arrive and simply ask "brother"

 

:bandana:

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as I have been saying for years.

 

the writers never had any clue what they were doing with this focking show.

 

They thought they might get 1, maybe 2 seasons out of this show.

 

They have been flying by the seat of their pants for a very long time and it shows

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as I have been saying for years.

 

the writers never had any clue what they were doing with this focking show.

 

They thought they might get 1, maybe 2 seasons out of this show.

 

They have been flying by the seat of their pants for a very long time and it shows

 

I thought you stopped watching. :bandana:

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I do not think Christian is MIB - But i don't think he is Jacob either - I think he represents a higher power that governed both Jacob and MIB and made sure they played correctly. I think the same think that Christian was/is that kid was/is. I don't think we have seen the last of Christian.

 

The Temple being under attack and Jacob not wanting Jack or Hurley near there

 

The Jap Temple guy knowing about the "canidates" but Richard hasn't a clue???

 

looking more and more like Jacob is wanting to choose Jack and MIB Sawyer - Thus those 2 taking there place. Not certain though.

 

 

I really doubt they planned on only 1 season of this show maybe 3 though.

 

The person Jacob wants to find the Island -- is it Des or Widemore? or was the Lighthouse just a ploy to push Jack a certain way and get them out of the temple?

 

Claire - not sure MIB reason for wanting her -- but clearly he can possess her but cannot with Sawyer as Sawyer was marked a canidate.

 

Who knows Ben's role now. he will blame MIB for Jacob

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I thought you stopped watching. :bandana:

 

You convinced me to keep watching.

 

I hate your guts.

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New theory is the alt reality is Jacobs check mate to MIB. Hurley is lucky , Jack a good guy and a being a good father , Ben a teacher , Kate thinking of people other than herself , Locke embracing who and what he is.

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New theory is the alt reality is Jacobs check mate to MIB. Hurley is lucky , Jack a good guy and a being a good father , Ben a teacher , Kate thinking of people other than herself , Locke embracing who and what he is.

And joc's dog apologizing to the cat.

 

"Sorry for bitin you bro"

 

"No biggie."

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Another thing that sucks about this season.

 

Very little Ben Linus :thumbsdown:

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You focks sure like to complain...I wish I could go back in time and rip our you mom's uterus. :thumbsdown:

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I predict people are going to be pretty disappointed with the ending. Lost is about the journey and choices made during that journey. Not what happens at the end.

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I predict people are going to be pretty disappointed with the ending. Lost is about the journey and choices made during that journey. Not what happens at the end.

 

spoken like a true doosher

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Yea, I completely agree edjr

 

Oops.

 

Is my cover blown now?

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I predict people are going to be pretty disappointed with the ending. Lost is about the journey and choices made during that journey. Not what happens at the end.

 

:music_guitarred: I think there is NO WAY the ending can satisfy everyone. They said this in the interview with that one chick, they think the ending will disappoint some losties, while leaving others satisfied. It's impossible to please all the fans in this case. If they DIDN'T have the basic planned from the beginning, they can go on forever with this story. They already said( of course they could be lying) that they had all the major plot thought of before season 1, it was just a matter of how they will get to the end, i guess they figured that they can't drag it on further without the fans getting really upset, which is true.

 

I just hope the rest of the season is really good. If they rest of the season is really good, and the ending is kind of disappointing, i will still be satisfied.

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There's a lot of discussion on "the game" and the "claiming", but not much discussion on what the hell is going on with the "flash sideways." What's the point? How does this all tie in to everything?

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I predict people are going to be pretty disappointed with the ending. Lost is about the journey and choices made during that journey. Not what happens at the end.

 

Much like the Sopranos.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tony died.

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Quote from a member over at Lostpedia forum when they found out the tsunami was not going to cause problems with the filming schedule.

 

 

"oh good, i was worried they were going to have to turn the donkey wheel." :lol:

 

 

 

 

BTW where the fock is our recap. :wub:

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