***Official LOST Season 6 thread***

[pimptastic69 0]

I thought it was pretty good, right up until the end. The sub thing with Widmore was dumb.

 

There had to be a better way of getting him back into the story. I don't know exactly how, but I thought that was hokey.

[jvirne 0]

I thought it was a great episode. It reaffirmed two of my observations -

 

1. The LA-X storyline is the perfect heaven without the island. Ben makes the right choice he never made on the island: he chose his daughter over personal power.

 

2. The role shifts -- > Jack is definitely the new Locke "man of faith" role.

[jvirne 0]

I'm fairly annoyed that Whitmore is the one coming to the island, and not Demond or Walt.

[Quickolas1 80]

I'm fairly annoyed that Whitmore is the one coming to the island, and not Demond or Walt.

 

it's Widmore and we don't have all the information yet

Widmore has always been a power player (knowledgable about happenings) and important to the idea of control of the island...desmond has not (pawn, not a player)

 

however I have a strong feeling we'll find out Widmore is not the only one on that sub..................

 

[kutulu 1,680]

I am that Chuck is on the sub. I'm stacked with Locke, Hurley, Widmore and Vinfockincent Too bad I didn't play for money...or with rules or a scoring system.

 

imhotep... Richard Alpert, Christian Shephard, Eloise Hawking, Claire Littleton, Aaron Littleton, Karl

Desmond_Hanso... Sayid Jarrah, Jin-Soo Kwon, Ana-Lucia Cortez, Alexandra Rousseau, Kelvin Joe Inman, Goodwin Stanhope

Ch13s... Eko Tunde, Ethan Rom, Peirre Chang, Tom "Friendly", Anthony Cooper, Naomi Dorrit

kutulu2... John Locke, Charles Widmore, Vincent, Hugo "Hurley" Reyes, Dave, Captain Gault

haloweenqueen... Jack Shephard, Frank Lapidus, Danielle Rosseau, Juliet Burke, Kate Austen, Annie

Taboo... Ben Linus, Mikhail Bakunin, Miles Straume, Boone Carlyle, Charlotte Lewis, Ilana

bounty_hunter12... Desmond Hume, Daniel Faraday, Matthew Abbadon, Horace Goodspeed, Gerald Degroot, Karen Degroot

JOSHRPM... James "Sawyer" Ford, Martin Keamy, Michael Dawson, Walt Lloyd, Charlie Pace, Edward Mars

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What's wrong with me.

[Saint Elistan 106]

1. The LA-X storyline is the perfect heaven without the island. Ben makes the right choice he never made on the island: he chose his daughter over personal power.

 

 

On this matter...tonight was the first time that one of the characters in the "sideways" mentioned the Island. I thought that was pretty interesting. Ben and his father did go to the Island...and then they left. When? Why?

[pimptastic69 0]

On this matter...tonight was the first time that one of the characters in the "sideways" mentioned the Island. I thought that was pretty interesting. Ben and his father did go to the Island...and then they left. When? Why?

 

Maybe because the sub was still there? Technically Locke hadn't been there to blow it up yet. The bomb went off in 1977 on the main island, but the Hydra island wasn't affected.

 

Flocke mentioned the Hydra Island tonight.

 

Where was the sub dock?

[pimptastic69 0]

Something else I just realized, If Alex Rousseau is in the off-island timeline, that means that a.) Danielle's science ship never crashed on the island (and Danielle may still be alive ) or b.) Ben and Uncle Rico took her with them whenever they left the island.

[Saint Elistan 106]

Maybe because the sub was still there? Technically Locke hadn't been there to blow it up yet. The bomb went off in 1977 on the main island, but the Hydra island wasn't affected.

 

Flocke mentioned the Hydra Island tonight.

 

Where was the sub dock?

 

Well the how doesn't really matter. I was lookin' for the when and why. When did they leave? Why did they leave?

 

Up until this point we've been led to believe that the "sideways" universe began when the bomb went off. But when this occurred, Ben was one of the "Others" already and his father was still running around the Island with DHARMA feeling like a badass for shooting a raghead. So this would implicate that the explosion didn't immediately sink the Island. Still...how would Ben and Roger reunite and leave the Island and go on to lead their lives the way they are in the "sideways".

 

Alex's appearance only implicates that the Island sank after Ben rejoined his father, after being healed, and left, but before Danielle's science crew would have crashed.

 

Meh, things aren't adding up...as usual.

[jvirne 0]

Something else I just realized, If Alex Rousseau is in the off-island timeline, that means that a.) Danielle's science ship never crashed on the island (and Danielle may still be alive ) or b.) Ben and Uncle Rico took her with them whenever they left the island.

 

Alex mentioned her mother was working two jobs to support her.

 

No, her mother is alive and likely a single mom. Alex is nothing but a cherished student of Ben's.

 

I think the island sank before the French ship sank near it.

[OakHeadFootball 1]

I liked it. A couple of tense moments. Do Richard and Jack get Artzed? Does Ben get whacked? Does Ben dirty double cross and whack Ilana? I hope that is not what they are going to call filling in Richards back story but it certainly looks like he came in on the Black Rock and was shackled and chained as Locke mentioned to him in 6.01. Does Jacobs touch only prevent aging on the island or is that Richards specific gift? Jack, Richard and Michael not being able to kill themselves is more interesting now but Jacob never touched Michael that we know of. We seem to be asking more questions than getting answers this season so far. That has to stop pretty soon one would think. We have 2 camps now so next week should be interesting development wise.

[Quickolas1 80]

I hope that is not what they are going to call filling in Richards back story

 

next week is called "Recon" and features Sawyer

the week after that is called "Ab Aeterno"and features...drumroll...Richard

[Quickolas1 80]

everyone saying 'jughead/the incident' caused the island to sink/flashsideways are not thinking about it...or at least in the right way

lindelof said this is the case and we should think about when the island might have sunk/flashsideways start

 

crashing on the island/hatch/others/oceanix 6/timetravel/being in dharma/shooting linus...none of that would have happened

 

linus said the statue was only a foot when he arrived on the island...in the season 5 finale

the enhanced episode said something to the effect of "ben is almost always lying...but not with this statement"

 

i dont remember the exact timeframe but sawyer said in 1974 (i think) that his mother/father would be or were just recently shot

jacob's touching each of them would seem a good place to start (their lives are very different in the f-sideways)

[OakHeadFootball 1]

the week after that is called "Ab Aeterno"and features...drumroll...Richard

 

Just makes me wonder even more how they can actually tell his past with this seasons "flashes" being sideways. I still cant take a shine to the whole "flash sideways" term. I know they have stated its not a alternate reality. I just don't agree with it at all. But come to think of it how will Richard fit in the "flash sideways"? If being touched was the changing point, like you said, then we should see Richard back on the Black Rock or before which might answer my question of how they will do his back story. If not then he has to fit in somehow with the current sideways time line which would elude to the fact he is still ageless. I need to think about it when I am not fighting to keep my eyes open.

[Voltaire 5,317]

Whoo Hoo.

 

Pirated version already up on the Chinese site. This is record time.

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/w2z3NBpBr6Q/

[shotsup 832]

but I thought that was hokey.

 

When the periscope popped up I thought it looked like it came out of Adam West 60's Batman series. I thought the joker, riddler and penguin were going to be on that sub.

[tikigods 76]

I thought it was a great episode. It reaffirmed two of my observations -

 

1. The LA-X storyline is the perfect heaven without the island. Ben makes the right choice he never made on the island: he chose his daughter over personal power.

 

2. The role shifts -- > Jack is definitely the new Locke "man of faith" role.

 

It confirms that Ben is really not evil and all the lying, killing was in order to protect the island for Jacob.

[jvirne 0]

It confirms that Ben is really not evil and all the lying, killing was in order to protect the island for Jacob.

 

You're kidding right? Have you forgotten how much of self-serving psycho this guy is?

 

He lied about meeting Jacob to ....protect the island? He killed Locke to ...protect the island?

 

As the sideways narrative demonstrated, Linus' issues are with power. He craves and loves being in charge of things. It makes him feel secure.

 

His redemption is putting another's needs before his own desires - such as Alex's recommendation over his desire to be principal.

 

ETA: that said, I think he's changing in the island narrative too. He could have easily went to Locke's camp. Instead he followed Illana back to the beach. Wouldn't it be a hoot if Linus is the one who ends up killing FLocke?

[RLLD 4,249]

I loved the inclusion of all the other characters in the various sideways sequences....like when Sayid is racing down the hallway to see his brother, and there was Jack turning in the hallway, just visible for about a second.....

 

It seems as though the frequency with which they are encountering each other is increasing in these sequences, reaching a crescendo of sorts....maybe the island is slowly bringing their various time lines into alignment, and eventually they all simply "arrive" at a spot in time....but what the hell happens then?

 

It seems as though the Island is trying to bring a "balance" of good and evil into play, and perhaps trying to save the world by achieving that balance before the Mayan 2012 event? Just spit balling....

[Sho Nuff 720]

Solid episode, in my opinion. I guess you just don't appreciate character development as much as I do.

 

Ben's redemption...Jack's new found faith...Richard's rebirth...Island visitor revealed. Doesn't get much better.

 

 

Agreed...solid.

My one complaint would have been they let Llana get too close to Ben...no way as close as she was that she would not have stopped to take some shots...unless she never planned on killing him in the first place.

[kutulu 1,680]

Agreed...solid.

My one complaint would have been they let Llana get too close to Ben...no way as close as she was that she would not have stopped to take some shots...unless she never planned on killing him in the first place.

 

Do you not see how twitchy Linus is when he is running? He looked like he was running the 100 yard dash at the Special Olympics . No way Llana could get a clear shot.

[Quickolas1 80]

Just makes me wonder even more how they can actually tell his past with this seasons "flashes" being sideways. But come to think of it how will Richard fit in the "flash sideways"?

 

don't know if they'll also do sideways, but we're going to see richard's past (b-rock)

[Saint Elistan 106]

Emerson's already come out and said that there will be an episode aired this season that doesn't contain ANY of the main actors.

"It's unusual - it's unprecedented. They're pushing the envelope with this one," he explained. "It's set in a time and a place that you will never have seen on a network series before, I would venture to say."

Sounds like a Richard-Only episode to me! And with Widmore reappearing, I'm going to venture to say that the story goes like this:

 

Richard wasn't a slave. He was first mate (Widmore bought the first mate's journal, remember? Perhaps this is how he found the Island again...). Why the chains reference? Well I'll venture to say that he led a failed mutiny...but why? Was he for or against coming to this mysterious Island?

[BunnysBastatrds 2,449]

If there are only six candidates left and Jin and Sun are two of them, what's the speculation on who the other four are?

[kutulu 1,680]

If there are only six candidates left and Jin and Sun are two of them, what's the speculation on who the other four are?

 

Hurley, Jack, Kate and Vincent.

[supermike80 1,925]

Hurley, Jack, Kate and Vincent.

 

I'd say Aaron still has some significant role.

[kutulu 1,680]

I'd say Aaron still has some significant role.

 

His head will be used as a navigational bearing.

[itsbigmoni 1]

One thing i don't get about the whole principal thing. Couldn't ben just have said, if you don't write a glowing recommendation AND resign, i'll expose you?

[IAMWood 6]

One thing i don't get about the whole principal thing. Couldn't ben just have said, if you don't write a glowing recommendation AND resign, i'll expose you?

 

Yeah, pretty weak. I am going on a whim and going with the story by thinking to myself that Ben really didn't want to be principal, that he enjoyed teaching, and he will always have the principal in his pocket now any way.

 

[Lackman 0]

One thing i don't get about the whole principal thing. Couldn't ben just have said, if you don't write a glowing recommendation AND resign, i'll expose you?

 

Tip of the iceberg, my friend, tip of the iceberg. I grew to like last week's episode after repeated viewings. No chance this week. I'm chomping at the bit to start pounding the 'ole keyboard with so much nonsense and illogical crap from this latest episode, but need to watch the episode two more times before Hell is unleashed. I get that the show has some hard to believe foundation. But the characters and relationships were just so non-human.

 

I complained last week that I still haven't had a What the Fock? moment watching LOST this year. Well, I said those words, along with "...was that crap?" as the closing credits rolled and I threw everything within grabbing distance against the far living room wall.

[Lackman 0]

Cheese Curls

 

Um, Cheese Curds.

 

I watch LOST with closed captioning on.

 

Edit: You deleted? Bah.

 

Edit: No more comments from me. You folks dissect away. I'll stay out of it for now. I talk too much.

[kutulu 1,680]

Um, Cheese Curds.

 

I watch LOST with closed captioning on.

 

Good idea...I watched with a rum and coke.

 

edit: I delete about half of my posts and about 1/3 of my threads.

[nobody 2,690]

I like how Ben has evidence that would destroy Gregory Peck's career and marriage, and the guy's big counter is, I'll give your favorite student a bad recomendation, and Ben caves. Why wouldn't he just say, "No, you're going to retire and recommend me to replace you, and give her a glowing recommendation."

 

Nevermind, I see you guys already went over it

[nobody 2,690]

By the way, this was the first episode they talked about a replacement for Locke (I'm not calling him Man in Black since he never wears black). It looks like they are trying to maintain a balance between good and evil. My guess is Sawyer becomes the new bad guy and Sheppard becomes the new good guy.

[Voltaire 5,317]

Ben sucks at manipulating people.

[RicemanX 20]

Im starting to think that Jacob is bad and MIB is good....

 

Or they're both bad...

[JerkStore 13]

When the periscope popped up I thought it looked like it came out of Adam West 60's Batman series. I thought the joker, riddler and penguin were going to be on that sub.

 

They really need a new CGI guy or a bigger CGI budget. Every time they show the sub, it looks like pure cartoon monkey crap.

[nobody 2,690]

Im starting to think that Jacob is bad and MIB is good....

 

Or they're both bad...

 

 

I've been thinking the same thing for quite awhile.

[jvirne 0]

And with Widmore reappearing, I'm going to venture to say that the story goes like this:

 

Richard wasn't a slave. He was first mate (Widmore bought the first mate's journal, remember? Perhaps this is how he found the Island again...). Why the chains reference? Well I'll venture to say that he led a failed mutiny...but why? Was he for or against coming to this mysterious Island?

 

I like this a lot. Not sure that's how it'll go down, but I like it. The connection between Whitmore and Richard has never been explored, only hinted at. After all, Richard was his adviser before he advised Ben Linus, and as you said, Whitemore actively collected things from the Black Rock.

[OakHeadFootball 1]

Im starting to think that Jacob is bad and MIB is good....

 

I think the writers are trying so hard to portray Jacob as bad and Locke as good it comes across to me as a huge red herring. Just when you are finally convinced that MIB is good he will gut someone like a fish.