Miami Heat sucxors

[JT 137]

I'd say Dwight Howard if you want to talk about Physicality... Ya Lebron is 6'8" 250 and can jump, but like it has been mentioned he's a steamroll type guy driving to the hoop, I wouldn't say his game is that refined...

 

James is probably the fastest player in the league from end to end. Certainly the fastest over 6'1".

 

He's an absolute physical mutant. Nobody in the game, with the possible excpeption of Wilt, has ever been as clearly physically dominant.

 

You can't cite Howard, then turn around and talk about the lack of refinement in James' game. This is the first season Howard has been able to get out of his own way on the block. Kudos to him for working to improve his game, but he's light years away from James in basketball skill.

[Yer mom 2]

They take down the Lakers tomorrow and espn will start licking their twats again.

 

That should be a great game. I was at the game Christmas day at the Staples Center and was expecting to see Kobe, LeBron and Dwayne put on a show. It was the worst game ive ever seen live :sad: Box seats, good thing they were free, I heard nosebleeds were going for huge dollars that day.

 

Miami won in LA, I think we'll bring the payback since were red hot and they're red not.

[RicemanX 20]

OMGOMG Miami Heat are the best team in NBA and will win championship OMG THey beat KOBE!

[Voltaire 5,530]

No offense to LA fans, but as a precaution against Miami reaching the finals, I'll also be rooting against the Lakers in the Western Conference.

[KSB2424 3,174]

Ebb and flow my ass.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong? Of course Miami, like the other powerhouse NBA teams, go through an ebb and flow over the course of a full NBA season.

 

I used that cliche last week but check out this headline on the front page of cbs.sportsline: http://www.cbssports.com/

 

They used the exact same term for thier headline. EBB AND FLOW.

 

You guys are funny. So blinded by some weird "hate" for Lebron and Miami that you can't even logically speak about basketball anymore.

[FeelingMN 273]

You guys are so predictable.

 

 

Do you ever get tired of being wrong? Of course Miami, like the other powerhouse NBA teams, go through an ebb and flow over the course of a full NBA season.

 

I used that cliche last week but check out this headline on the front page of cbs.sportsline: http://www.cbssports.com/

 

They used the exact same term for thier headline. EBB AND FLOW.

 

You guys are funny. So blinded by some weird "hate" for Lebron and Miami that you can't even logically speak about basketball anymore.

 

Huh....imagine that....you bumping this thread. Of course.

 

I'll continue to root against El Heat going forward....because I don't like LeBron James. I used to like him....but his sideline antics in Cleveland were annoying. His 1 hour ESPN special was atrocious. And his proclamation that the Heat will win not 5...not 6.....etc championships is laughable considering the guy pisses his shorts with the ball in his hands in the last 10 seconds and his team down. In fact, if you're 30 something and grew up watching the golden age of the NBA (mid 80s - mid 90s), to root for LeBron requires some form of blindness.

 

Oh well, a 30 point ass whipping of SA is a good win. And hopefully you're right....ebb and flow and what not.....because that means Miami is about to sputter at the most crucial point in the season.

[patweisers44 873]

You guys are funny. So blinded by some weird "hate" for Lebron and Miami that you can't even logically speak about basketball anymore.

I wouldnt call hatred for Lebron "weird". He has done plenty to earn it.

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[funngun 1]

They will win 58 games or so.

 

Give this man a raise!!

[NewbieJr 541]

Lebron and Miami has accomplished the impossible. They have made me a Celtics fan if the both reach the Eastern Finals and a Laker/Kobe fan if they both make the NBA Finals.

[funngun 1]

Lebron and Miami has accomplished the impossible. They have made me a Celtics fan if the both reach the Eastern Finals and a Laker/Kobe fan if they both make the NBA Finals.

 

They cannot both reach the eastern conference finals, they are 2 and 3 which means they play each other if the celtics can beat NY (Its going to be interesting). The heat should take care of the hawks.

[Frank M 181]

Lebron and Miami has accomplished the impossible. They have made me a Celtics fan if the both reach the Eastern Finals and a Laker/Kobe fan if they both make the NBA Finals.

 

They're going to meet in the second round. Early exit for Lebron again.

[NewbieJr 541]

They cannot both reach the eastern conference finals, they are 2 and 3 which means they play each other if the celtics can beat NY (Its going to be interesting). The heat should take care of the hawks.

Better yet. Let's go Boston.

[funngun 1]

Better yet. Let's go Boston.

 

And Miami have home court advantage. I think its going to be the Heat against the Magic in the eastern finals

[drobeski 3,061]

Lebron and Miami has accomplished the impossible. They have made me a Celtics fan if the both reach the Eastern Finals and a Laker/Kobe fan if they both make the NBA Finals.

how could you not be a fan of the greatest franchise in nba history.

[NewbieJr 541]

how could you not be a fan of the greatest franchise in nba history.

Well, for one season, I am

[Mungwater 601]

And Miami have home court advantage. I think its going to be the Heat against the Magic in the eastern finals

 

Chicago/Boston

[KSB2424 3,174]

Interesting point an NBA analyst made last night. He stated that a big reason for Chicago doing so well this regular season was that they brought Defensive intensity EVERY night. They are young, hungry, and apprarently well coached. Something you don't see in the NBA all that much.

 

However in the playoffs every team brings defensive intensity every game. Teams don't take nights or possesions "off". The NBA playoffs are a totally different animal than the regular season. He wasn't knocking the Bulls whatsoever, but simply making a point that even though Chicago is the number one seed, he thinks because other teams will now match the intensity on Defense they won't have such an easy time winning basketball games likey they have been the past few months. He picked the Magic upsetting them for this reason.

 

I thought it was an interesting take.

[drobeski 3,061]

I sure hope the celts are playing possum...:sad: but I doubt it, Rhondo seems to have a bad case of hated the trade and has been playing like uninspired ass.

[drobeski 3,061]

Interesting point an NBA analyst made last night. He stated that a big reason for Chicago doing so well this regular season was that they brought Defensive intensity EVERY night. They are young, hungry, and apprarently well coached. Something you don't see in the NBA all that much.

 

However in the playoffs every team brings defensive intensity every game. Teams don't take nights or possesions "off". The NBA playoffs are a totally different animal than the regular season. He wasn't knocking the Bulls whatsoever, but simply making a point that even though Chicago is the number one seed, he thinks because other teams will now match the intensity on Defense they won't have such an easy time winning basketball games likey they have been the past few months. He picked the Magic upsetting them for this reason.

 

I thought it was an interesting take.

They stole our coach

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Interesting point an NBA analyst made last night. He stated that a big reason for Chicago doing so well this regular season was that they brought Defensive intensity EVERY night. They are young, hungry, and apprarently well coached. Something you don't see in the NBA all that much.

 

However in the playoffs every team brings defensive intensity every game. Teams don't take nights or possesions "off". The NBA playoffs are a totally different animal than the regular season. He wasn't knocking the Bulls whatsoever, but simply making a point that even though Chicago is the number one seed, he thinks because other teams will now match the intensity on Defense they won't have such an easy time winning basketball games likey they have been the past few months. He picked the Magic upsetting them for this reason.

 

I thought it was an interesting take.

 

That's pretty standard stuff. I say it every year. However, why someone would single out one team and say it affects them any more than any other team is just dumb. The number one seed is typically a better team than the seeds below them. Not to mention that they have home court ADVANTAGE.

[KSB2424 3,174]

That's pretty standard stuff. I say it every year. However, why someone would single out one team and say it affects them any more than any other team is just dumb. The number one seed is typically a better team than the seeds below them. Not to mention that they have home court ADVANTAGE.

Maybe I wasn't clear in explaining what he said.

 

Yes, it's common knowledge and it's really standard for almost every team to take nights off, possesions off, and not bring "slap the floor" Defensive intensity every night. That's the status quo in the NBA regular season.

 

The reason he singled out Chicago was because this guy watched them play almost every game this season and said they broke that status quo more than any other team by far and did bring the intensity on D every night. It was one of the reasons they were so successful this season. That is why he singled them out.

 

His point is that now all the teams will match that, so the playoffs might not play out like the regular season did for the Bulls even with home court.

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Maybe I wasn't clear in explaining what he said.

 

Yes, it's common knowledge and it's really standard for almost every team to take nights off, possesions off, and not bring "slap the floor" Defensive intensity every night. That's he status quo in the NBA regular season.

 

The reason he singled out Chicago was because this guy watched them play almost every game this season and said they broke that status quo more than any other team by far and did bring the intensity on D every night. It was one of the reasons they were so successful this season. That is why he single them out.

 

His point is that now all the teams will match that, so the playoffs might not play out like the regular season did for the Bulls even with home court.

 

If a team hasn't been playing good D all season how are they suddenly going to turn it on in the playoffs? Sure there will be some more intensity from teams but if they're not that good defensively to begin with it won't matter. Plus, the seedings DO matter. Do you think Chicago is going to lose to Indiana? Not a chance in hell. But Orlando COULD lose to the Hawks. And, with regard to Orlando, like Chicago they preach D. While they haven't been great all season SVG doesn't put up with a lack of intensity so this argument fails when discussing those two teams in particular.

[cyclone24 1,940]

If a team hasn't been playing good D all season how are they suddenly going to turn it on in the playoffs? Sure there will be some more intensity from teams but if they're not that good defensively to begin with it won't matter. Plus, the seedings DO matter. Do you think Chicago is going to lose to Indiana? Not a chance in hell. But Orlando COULD lose to the Hawks. And, with regard to Orlando, like Chicago they preach D. While they haven't been great all season SVG doesn't put up with a lack of intensity so this argument fails when discussing those two teams in particular.

 

 

I agree completely.

 

Do guys take plays off? I wouldnt say they just mail it in but maybe they dont get around that screen as much as they should etc.......but if you are terrible defensively (new york) you wont just suddenly do the right things as a unit since the playoffs are here.

 

Trying hard isnt the same as doing the right things.

[KSB2424 3,174]

If a team hasn't been playing good D all season how are they suddenly going to turn it on in the playoffs? Sure there will be some more intensity from teams but if they're not that good defensively to begin with it won't matter. Plus, the seedings DO matter. Do you think Chicago is going to lose to Indiana? Not a chance in hell. But Orlando COULD lose to the Hawks. And, with regard to Orlando, like Chicago they preach D. While they haven't been great all season SVG doesn't put up with a lack of intensity so this argument fails when discussing those two teams in particular.

It was an observation the analyst made from watching and following all the NBA games every night. When breaking down the playoffs an anaylyst's job is to find little nuances that may play a role in determining how the playoffs might play out. That's all.

 

I'm an NBA fan, but I also have a family, a job, and other interests. I can't watch every team that made the playoffs play every game. Therefore I was unaware that the Bulls were known for "bringing" the D intensity every night compared to most other teams. It was worth noting and I found a tad bit interesting of a take.

 

I love this place. A person could state "The sky is Blue" and there would be a post replying: "Well, it's not REALLY blue, its more of a baby blue as a true blue is much richer/darker. Therefore you are stupid".

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It was an observation the analyst made from watching and following all the NBA games every night. When breaking down the playoffs an anaylyst's job is to find little nuances that may play a role in determining how the playoffs might play out. That's all.

 

I'm an NBA fan, but I also have a family, a job, and other interests. I can't watch every team that made the playoffs play every game. Therefore I was unaware that the Bulls were known for "bringing" the D intensity every night compared to most other teams. It was worth noting.

 

I love this place. A person could state "The sky is Blue" and there would be a post replying: "Well, it's not REALLY blue, its more of a baby blue as a true blue is much richer/darker" Therefore you are stupid.

 

The analyst is an idiot. Who was it? BTW, Chicago isn't the number one seed ONLY because of their D. It might have something to do with the MVP point guard and some other things as well. And this is a message board. It's purpose is to promote discussion. Sometimes that discussion even involves disagreeing about something, believe it or not.

[cyclone24 1,940]

It was an observation the analyst made from watching and following all the NBA games every night. When breaking down the playoffs an anaylyst's job is to find little nuances that may play a role in determining how the playoffs might play out. That's all.

 

I'm an NBA fan, but I also have a family, a job, and other interests. I can't watch every team that made the playoffs play every game. Therefore I was unaware that the Bulls were known for "bringing" the D intensity every night compared to most other teams. It was worth noting.

 

I love this place. A person could state "The sky is Blue" and there would be a post replying: "Well, it's not REALLY blue, its more of a baby blue as a true blue is much richer/darker" Therefore you are stupid.

 

 

 

You know d@mn well theres many days its not blue you stupid SOB!!

[KSB2424 3,174]

The analyst is an idiot. Who was it? BTW, Chicago isn't the number one seed ONLY because of their D. It might have something to do with the MVP point guard and some other things as well. And this is a message board. It's purpose is to promote discussion. Sometimes that discussion even involves disagreeing about something, believe it or not.

I think it was Ledgler but don't quote me on that. They made it in the midst of a back and forth discussion.

 

And I don't think anyone said it was the ONLY reason.

 

The Bulls have really good players. As a matter of fact I did say they were young, hungry, and have been coached well. Their Defense is just one of the factors. Just because you try and breakdown a team and are speaking about one factor doesn't mean you are implying that is the only factor involved.

 

Ahhh...forget it. You're right. The sky isn't really blue, it's actually baby blue. I was dumb for saying such a thing.

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I think it was Ledgler but don't quote me on that. They made it in the midst of a back and forth discussion.

 

And I don't think anyone said it was the ONLY reason.

 

The Bulls have really good players. As a matter of fact I did say they were young, hungry, and have been coached well. Their Defense is just one of the factors. Just because you try and breakdown a team and are speaking about one factor doesn't mean you are implying that is the only factor involved.

 

Ahhh...forget it. You're right. The sky isn't really blue, it's actually baby blue. I was dumb for saying such a thing.

 

Legler? The Kyle Korver of his era? Dude wouldn't know Defense if it bit him in the A$$.

 

:lol:

[KSB2424 3,174]

Legler? The Kyle Korver of his era? Dude wouldn't know Defense if it bit him in the A$$.

 

:lol:

But somehow you do?

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But somehow you do?

 

Yes.

[KSB2424 3,174]

Yes.

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Of course the big takeaway from this discussion is that I don't regurgitate what I hear from some one dimensional former player. I form my own opinion. And trust me I watch the GOOD teams as much as Legler does. But I can back up my stance with sound reasoning as I did in my posts. I have no problem with you posting someone elses opinion but you should expect that it might be challenged. And, at that point you're either going to have to be able to argue that opinion yourself or just let it go. But getting all defensive makes no sense. If you're gonna get all offended and defensive when someone offers a differing point of view than the opinion you regurgitated don't bother posting it to begin with.

[MedStudent 56]

I think it was Ledgler but don't quote me on that. They made it in the midst of a back and forth discussion.

 

And I don't think anyone said it was the ONLY reason.

 

The Bulls have really good players. As a matter of fact I did say they were young, hungry, and have been coached well. Their Defense is just one of the factors. Just because you try and breakdown a team and are speaking about one factor doesn't mean you are implying that is the only factor involved.

 

Ahhh...forget it. You're right. The sky isn't really blue, it's actually baby blue. I was dumb for saying such a thing.

 

I'm not sure what the guy you are talking about meant, but I think his point may have been that the Bulls will not be a better team in the playoffs than they were in the regular season. But a team like Boston will be a better team in the playoffs. You can use last year as an example. Older teams are not going to kill themselves in the reguar season. They want to be primed for the playoffs. I'm not sure if the Celtics can turn it on again this year but they have the potential to. I don't think Miami falls into the same category as the Celtics because they have been playing pretty hard trying to jell. Veterans tend to step it up in the playoffs.

 

History has shown that young up and coming teams sometimes have to go through failures in the playoffs before they win a championship. Isiah Thomas and Detroit had trouble beating a veteran Boston team before they won , A young Bulls team with Jordan had trouble with a veteran Detroit team before they won. The Bulls have had a great season but the playoffs are a different animal.

[cyclone24 1,940]

Young team??

 

 

6 Keith Bogans G Kentucky 7

5 Carlos Boozer © Duke 8

11 Ronnie Brewer G Arkansas 4

9 Luol Deng © F Duke 6

22 Taj Gibson F USC 1

26 Kyle Korver G-F Creighton 7

13 Joakim Noah © C Florida 3

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Their main player is young....but its a pretty veteran group for the mostpart in their primes.

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History has shown that young up and coming teams sometimes have to go through failures in the playoffs before they win a championship. Isiah Thomas and Detroit had trouble beating a veteran Boston team before they won , A young Bulls team with Jordan had trouble with a veteran Detroit team before they won. The Bulls have had a great season but the playoffs are a different animal.

 

 

This is a much better point than the one about the intensity of the D of Chicago's opponents. Generally speaking I agree with it but Chicago this year is a very good team and, to be quite honest, the top teams aren't quite as good as they were a couple of years ago. This could be a year where a team like Chicago just blows up to the point of winning it all. I'm skeptical. I'm a Lakers fan and, unless the Bynum injury from last night turns out to be significant, I still believe in the team despite their recent struggles. But I wouldn't be surprised if Chicago did win it this year.

[KSB2424 3,174]

Of course the big takeaway from this discussion is that I don't regurgitate what I hear from some one dimensional former player. I form my own opinion. And trust me I watch the GOOD teams as much as Legler does. But I can back up my stance with sound reasoning as I did in my posts. I have no problem with you posting someone elses opinion but you should expect that it might be challenged. And, at that point you're either going to have to be able to argue that opinion yourself or just let it go. But getting all defensive makes no sense. If you're gonna get all offended and defensive when someone offers a differing point of view than the opinion you regurgitated don't bother posting it to begin with.

Are you serious with this?

 

I simply pointed out a little tidbit that an NBA analyst said that I found somewhat interesting. That's all. It wasn't meant to be a "stance" in some arguement.

 

And who's offended? Oh dear God, this is hilarious. We're talking NBA basketball, not writing a thesis here.

 

NERD ALERT!@#!

[KSB2424 3,174]

Young team??

 

 

6 Keith Bogans G Kentucky 7

5 Carlos Boozer © Duke 8

11 Ronnie Brewer G Arkansas 4

9 Luol Deng © F Duke 6

22 Taj Gibson F USC 1

26 Kyle Korver G-F Creighton 7

13 Joakim Noah © C Florida 3

1 Derrick Rose © Memphis 2

40 Kurt Thomas Texas Christian 15

 

 

Their main player is young....but its a pretty veteran group for the mostpart in their primes.

It think his point was that rarely does a team come out of nowhere and win it all. A team usually pays it's dues in the playoffs before Winning an NBA Championship or even reaching the Finals. Does it happen from time to time? Sure, there are always exceptions to the rule. However Chicago lost in the first round of the playoffs the last two years. They haven't made a conference finals in a very long time.

 

Paying those dues may have something to do with understaning the difference and adjusting to Playoff basketball versus regular season basketball. Maybe? A thought worth noting at the very least.

 

That's not to say they won't do it. They very well might, but history is sorta against them in that regards.

[Yer mom 2]

I'm a Lakers fan and, unless the Bynum injury from last night turns out to be significant, I still believe in the team despite their recent struggles.

 

Its all about the Phil

 

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[Team Revell 1]

if they wanna win 58 they'd better win their next 40 in a row.

 

Guess how many games the Heat won this season?