Mack 1 6 Posted October 13, 2012 A guy in our league was in a hurry and accidentally dropped AJ for a kicker. Another owner had to inform him of his mistake 30 minutes later. Meanwhile, a third owner swooped in and picked up AJ. The dude that made the mistake called me (I'm the league commish) to see WHEN I would make the correction. I told him, while it was an honest mistake, the league can't legislate negligence. There's nothing in our rules that says anything about contingency plans for owners making bonehead mistakes like this. In the absense of such rule, I made the decision that he's simply ass-out and has to live with AJ on somebody else's team. Too harsh? He got what he deserved? What say you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dashow28 6 Posted October 13, 2012 A guy in our league was in a hurry and accidentally dropped AJ for a kicker. Another owner had to inform him of his mistake 30 minutes later. Meanwhile, a third owner swooped in and picked up AJ. The dude that made the mistake called me (I'm the league commish) to see WHEN I would make the correction. I told him, while it was an honest mistake, the league can't legislate negligence. There's nothing in our rules that says anything about contingency plans for owners making bonehead mistakes like this. In the absense of such rule, I made the decision that he's simply ass-out and has to live with AJ on somebody else's team. Too harsh? He got what he deserved? What say you? I'm wondering what is the process for waivers? If someone gets dropped anybody can just pick that player up right then if they happen to be on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phlegmish 4 Posted October 13, 2012 A guy in our league was in a hurry and accidentally dropped AJ for a kicker. Another owner had to inform him of his mistake 30 minutes later. Meanwhile, a third owner swooped in and picked up AJ. The dude that made the mistake called me (I'm the league commish) to see WHEN I would make the correction. I told him, while it was an honest mistake, the league can't legislate negligence. There's nothing in our rules that says anything about contingency plans for owners making bonehead mistakes like this. In the absense of such rule, I made the decision that he's simply ass-out and has to live with AJ on somebody else's team. Too harsh? He got what he deserved? What say you? [/quote I'd restore the rosters.... no need for bad karma in a game where luck is our only ally. If he did it because he was pissed at AJ and had regrets...then f!#k him... phones or computers take only one milli-sec to create a mistake. the implications to the league are dramatic in that kind of player swing (IMHO anyway)... akin to someone getting an extra 2nd round pick in your draft.....NOT COOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BufordT 372 Posted October 13, 2012 I'm wondering what is the process for waivers? If someone gets dropped anybody can just pick that player up right then if they happen to be on? I think the guy dropped AJ on purpose and is playing dumb to protect his buddy who picked him up. Collusion all the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sirensong 111 Posted October 13, 2012 i don't like his "when will you" reaction, but in a case like this, you know it was an interface mistake rather than bad judgment--the values are just too divergent. personally, i'd correct it. i've been in leagues that had something like this happen, and i've voted to allow the correction. i can see your point about negligence, but i think it would be more in the interest of the league to make the correction and keep competitive balance than to have everyone saying "waiver 1 got a free stud due to someone else's stupidity". the point of the game is rewarding good play. if you're going to stick with the decision, i think the only fair way to handle it would be a lottery that includes the team who dropped him. that way everyone has a fair shot at getting johnson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murf74 461 Posted October 13, 2012 I would quit and u r a d&%$ if you let that go thru. Actually you are a bad commish to allow it cause of your rules don't explicitly explain this scenario Let me guess he is ahead of u in standings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sirensong 111 Posted October 13, 2012 I think the guy dropped AJ on purpose and is playing dumb to protect his buddy who picked him up. Collusion all the way. this is also a strong possibility. lottery cures that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Mueller 146 Posted October 13, 2012 It was an honest mistake I'm sure. Put Andre back on the original owners team. If not, that owner is going to be pissed, and the rest of the league might be pissed too b/c the team that picked him up got a great player for nothing. P.S. This happened in my league last week when an owner accidentally dropped the Chicago defense. The commish added them back to the orginal squad in a matter of minutes. P.P.S. This is why you are commish. So you can step in and make fair and balanced decisions in the best interest of the league. Not to be a cobb knobbler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murf74 461 Posted October 13, 2012 It was an honest mistake I'm sure. Put Andre back on the original owners team. If not, that owner is going to be pissed, and the rest of the league might be pissed too b/c the team that picked him up got a great player for nothing. P.S. This happened in my league last week when an owner accidentally dropped the Chicago defense. The commish added him back to his squad and we continued on. I would be pissed too if I was other guys Very unfair ruling commish I am calling it....you have it out for owner that made mistake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,087 Posted October 13, 2012 A. A dropped player should always go on waivers for at least one day. This prevents collusion and teams circumventing the trading process. Change your league rules next year. B. Mistakes happen. If the guy informed you rather quickly (same day) then I think you should fix the mistake. Fantasy Football is supposed to be fun. Mistakes happen, no need to be a hard ass. Simply call or email the guy that picked up AJ and explain to him this. If he is half a man then he will understand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KojackDaniels 5 Posted October 13, 2012 Mistakes happen. Give him his Johnson back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted October 13, 2012 I hate when leaguemates pick up my johnson after i accidentally drop it. It's my johnson, leave it alone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mack 1 6 Posted October 13, 2012 thanks for the feedback, gents. the change will be made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quickolas1 80 Posted October 13, 2012 thanks for the feedback, gents. the change will be made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyFourSeven 23 Posted October 13, 2012 Isn't there a confirmation page? Like you select who you wanted to add and who you want to drop? Then you click it and it shows you once again and says something like "Are you sure..." and you click confirm? Lazy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davidaja 3 Posted October 13, 2012 I would be pissed too if I was other guys Very unfair ruling commish I am calling it....you have it out for owner that made mistake Yeah, I think the negative implications outweigh the positive ones if this is allowed to stand. Why don't you have a league vote? I'd bet it would go in favor of letting the guy get A. Johnson back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphster 274 Posted October 13, 2012 thanks for the feedback, gents. the change will be made. Nicely done commish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Cubs 133 Posted October 13, 2012 You do nothing. The owners needs to pay attention to what they're doing. Just because you're the commishioner it's not your job to baby sit the league. From what I read the owner did not notice the mistake until some one else told him. Maybe if the owner would have contacted you as soon as it happened then sure change it. Other wise your making a bad example for the rest of the league. Soon every owner will be having a case of the I did not mean to and you changed it for him. tough love Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patmos 2 Posted October 13, 2012 Nicely done commish I agree. If anyone make a computer-based error and acknowledges it within the hour, how can you not "make it right?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Gladstone 33 Posted October 13, 2012 Who do you have your league set up through? you should have some sort of waiver system. Put it to a league vote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Einstein's Dog 20 Posted October 13, 2012 thanks for the feedback, gents. the change will be made. You're not done yet commish. You need to adjust your waiver system. Someone should not be able to go in and pick someone up off waivers within an hour, that's just wrong. That type of system really can create some bad scenarios. Secondly, I hope you charge for the activity. The idiot owner (and almost all of these pickups have a confirmation page) should have to pay for 2 transactions. That should help from such nonsense in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
72dolfan 5 Posted October 13, 2012 A guy in our league was in a hurry and accidentally dropped AJ for a kicker. Another owner had to inform him of his mistake 30 minutes later. Meanwhile, a third owner swooped in and picked up AJ. The dude that made the mistake called me (I'm the league commish) to see WHEN I would make the correction. I told him, while it was an honest mistake, the league can't legislate negligence. There's nothing in our rules that says anything about contingency plans for owners making bonehead mistakes like this. In the absense of such rule, I made the decision that he's simply ass-out and has to live with AJ on somebody else's team. Too harsh? He got what he deserved? What say you? I say your decision was a poor one, and you need to step down as commish. Simply pathetic on your part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PATSSOX 22 Posted October 14, 2012 Isn't there a confirmation page? Like you select who you wanted to add and who you want to drop? Then you click it and it shows you once again and says something like "Are you sure..." and you click confirm? Lazy. I dont think there is one in CBS if you do it on your iphone. I could see this happening very easily using the APPS In this case its simple. Give AJ back to guy who made mistake and fix your rules. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,955 Posted October 14, 2012 I did the same thing this year: I accidentally dropped Jimmy Graham for a waiver wire defense when I meant to drop Barden. Clicked the wrong button on my iPhone. I texted the commish literally a minute after my mistake and he reversed it. If he let it go through I would've lived with it, but I think that would be the wrong decision. Mistakes like that will throw off the balance of a league a lot more than reversing those errors. That said if I F up again I won't even ask for a mulligan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Serpent 51 Posted October 14, 2012 The kicker is going to outscore AJ anyway. What's the big deal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swirvenirvin 25 Posted October 14, 2012 yeah where are the waivers, like if guy gets dropped he goes on waivers for 24 or 48 or however many hours. This is your fault for bad rules Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,649 Posted October 14, 2012 I give everyone 1 freebie per year, as long as they notice their mistake within a 24 hr window (unless games start). We have daily waivers next day midnight type of thing. So if they dont notice it before then its over sorry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdon 28 Posted October 14, 2012 I think you have to put it back and give him the benefit of the doubt... I know I am late to the game, but I just wanted to add that people who want to be so firm, so tight, and not let someone have the benefit of the doubt are being ridiculous... jdon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WR Guru 31 Posted October 14, 2012 There's nothing in our rules that says anything about contingency plans for owners making bonehead mistakes like this. In the absense of such rule, I made the decision that he's simply ass-out and has to live with AJ on somebody else's team. Wow, that's a brutal call. I'm as big a proponent of expecting competence from your franchise owners as anyone, but geez, this one is an obvious wrong click of a mouse. As has been mentioned, you need to adjust your league setup so that dropped players are locked for a certain period of time. In my league, dropped players cannot be picked up again in the same week they are cut. They are locked until the following week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceyBurnz 0 Posted October 14, 2012 The kicker is going to outscore AJ anyway. What's the big deal? Agree! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mack 1 6 Posted October 14, 2012 Perhaps my biggest problem is the negligent owner obviously didnt pay attention to the confirmation prompt on CBS, when it asks u are u sure. Also, we initially thought he did it on his phone, but dumb-dumb was actually on his laptop. My damn phone has been blowing up since Thursday when it went down. Certainly, this will induce us to adjust the waiver system in our league. Again, thanks for the wide array of opinions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chroniciguana 13 Posted October 14, 2012 I couldn't find anything on CBS, but many services offer email alerts that are sent out whenever a WW transaction takes place. So if someone drops Arian Foster for a bye week D/ST, and you sense this might - just might - be a mistake, you'll know about it within minutes and you can step in immediately. Sort of a hassle, but not really. Considering Johnson is coming off a 15-yard week following a five point performance, I'm not so sure this one would have jumped out as an obvious blunder - especially if the Johnson owner was being hammered with bye week lineup problems. But the evidence in your case seems to be that the Johnson drop wasn't intentional. Unless the guy who called the guy simply talked him out of it rather than alert him to a point and click mistake. But you'll likely never know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted October 14, 2012 I call bs. The guy got ticked, aggravated and impatient with his high draft pick after seeing his game vs the Jets, and then dropped him and then regretted it big time. And in general people are responsible for their own rosters. No way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quickolas1 80 Posted October 14, 2012 The guy got ticked, aggravated and impatient with his high draft pick after seeing his game vs the Jets, and then dropped him and then regretted it big time. And in general people are responsible for their own rosters. No way. I guess we know who else was in this league, and was first to run to his computer once he got the alert Andre Johnson was dropped (with no waiver wire). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
72dolfan 5 Posted October 14, 2012 Perhaps my biggest problem is the negligent owner obviously didnt pay attention to the confirmation prompt on CBS, when it asks u are u sure. Also, we initially thought he did it on his phone, but dumb-dumb was actually on his laptop. My damn phone has been blowing up since Thursday when it went down. Certainly, this will induce us to adjust the waiver system in our league. Again, thanks for the wide array of opinions. So are you going to give him AJ back,or are you standing pat and telling him tough luck? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites