Sho Nuff 720 Posted April 11, 2014 It must suck to be a conservative... Wait...comedy is a covert assault on American Values and Conservatism? WTF.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted April 11, 2014 I don't see why they wouldn't have considered Chris Hardwick. He clearly can do interviews, evidenced on his insanely popular podcasts and the Talking Dead after show on AMC, which draws a bigger audience than any of the current late night talk show hosts now. He's hosting a daily Comedy Central game show now. His personality seems more suited for a show like this. I don't know. Just throwing the ball around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,845 Posted April 11, 2014 I don't see why they wouldn't have considered Chris Hardwick. He clearly can do interviews, evidenced on his insanely popular podcasts and the Talking Dead after show on AMC, which draws a bigger audience than any of the current late night talk show hosts now. He's hosting a daily Comedy Central game show now. His personality seems more suited for a show like this. I don't know. Just throwing the ball around. Cause Hardwick isn't as big a name as Colbert... Kind of tough to put that at the 11:30 slot... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted April 11, 2014 Cause Hardwick isn't as big a name as Colbert... Kind of tough to put that at the 11:30 slot... Eh, that could be debated. But I will put forth the statement that Hardwick has been able to book better guests for his Nerdist podcast than Colbert for his Comedy Central TV show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 1,017 Posted April 11, 2014 It bothers me people don't hate these shows as much as I do. Late night talk shows stopped being funny/interesting 20 years ago when Letterman was at his peak. And it wasn't all that great back then. Kimmel comes off as a network ass-sucker... "you want non-offensive jokes that appeal to the masses? Sure I can do that." What a tool. Fallon is simply the least talented comedian of all time. Colbert can't be any worse than them, but I'm surprised America still watches any of that humorless garbage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,845 Posted April 11, 2014 It bothers me people don't hate these shows as much as I do. Late night talk shows stopped being funny/interesting 20 years ago when Letterman was at his peak. And it wasn't all that great back then. Kimmel comes off as a network ass-sucker... "you want non-offensive jokes that appeal to the masses? Sure I can do that." What a tool. Fallon is simply the least talented comedian of all time. Colbert can't be any worse than them, but I'm surprised America still watches any of that humorless garbage. That is why when I do turn in, I only watch Craig Ferguson... He is much better than the others IMO... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted April 11, 2014 It bothers me people don't hate these shows as much as I do. Late night talk shows stopped being funny/interesting 20 years ago when Letterman was at his peak. And it wasn't all that great back then. Kimmel comes off as a network ass-sucker... "you want non-offensive jokes that appeal to the masses? Sure I can do that." What a tool. Fallon is simply the least talented comedian of all time. Colbert can't be any worse than them, but I'm surprised America still watches any of that humorless garbage. I wouldn't say Fallon is the least talented. His talent is definitely not his comedy delivery or stand-up type stuff. Its all the "skit" type things and improv stuff he can do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,100 Posted April 11, 2014 Meh, they should have went with Daniel Tosh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted April 11, 2014 It bothers me people don't hate these shows as much as I do. Late night talk shows stopped being funny/interesting 20 years ago when Letterman was at his peak. And it wasn't all that great back then. Kimmel comes off as a network ass-sucker... "you want non-offensive jokes that appeal to the masses? Sure I can do that." What a tool. Fallon is simply the least talented comedian of all time. Colbert can't be any worse than them, but I'm surprised America still watches any of that humorless garbage. At my house, it's just background noise while we get ready for bed. Thank God is boring, or I'd never talk the mrs. Into giving it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 7,013 Posted April 11, 2014 Meh, they should have went with Daniel Tosh. Never. They should have went with STern, but his contract is still like 2 more years with Sirius. I bet you Colbert gets canned and Stern gets hired in 2 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted April 11, 2014 Poor edjr thinks Howard Stern is still relevant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bishop82 61 Posted April 11, 2014 I'm sad the Colbert Report is coming to an end, and have no opinion on The Late Show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted April 11, 2014 Never. They should have went with STern, but his contract is still like 2 more years with Sirius. I bet you Colbert gets canned and Stern gets hired in 2 years. Doubt Stern would do it...he would have to give up too much of his own schtick IMO to accept it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,783 Posted April 11, 2014 Never. They should have went with STern, but his contract is still like 2 more years with Sirius. I bet you Colbert gets canned and Stern gets hired in 2 years. Stern is too old and way too expensive. One of the few entertainers that would have to take a pay cut to host a late night show. Colbert brings a great audience. No way he'll be fired, his ratings will be higher than Letterman's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,797 Posted April 11, 2014 of all the late night guys, colbert is by far the best interviewer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted April 11, 2014 Never. They should have went with STern, but his contract is still like 2 more years with Sirius. I bet you Colbert gets canned and Stern gets hired in 2 years. Stern has no audience left. He does 9 live radio shows a month. He takes the entire summer off. All his fans left. Too many other options. Just like what happened to network TV. Too many choices. His agent told the producers of America's Got Talent of a huge ratings bump if they hired Stern. His millions of fans would watch the show. That first season, the ratings plummeted 35% from the prior season. What fans? SiriusXM won't release listener numbers because they're afraid to tell advertisers nobody is listening to his channel because the whole company is built around his channel and his ad rate numbers. It's an illusion. And he is a terrible interviewer. With a terrible looking wig. And horse teeth. Good Lord, he's too ugly to be on TV. It's bad enough people put that horse Ellen on TV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted April 11, 2014 AGT's ratings from the season before Howard to when he was there were affected also by actually going up against regular season shows. The year before they were not up against that. And it was still pretty much the #1 show in its timeslot and for its night. And ratings went up the next year too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 7,013 Posted April 11, 2014 Poor edjr thinks Howard Stern is still relevant more Relevant than David Letterman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted April 11, 2014 AGT's ratings from the season before Howard to when he was there were affected also by actually going up against regular season shows. The year before they were not up against that. And it was still pretty much the #1 show in its timeslot and for its night. And ratings went up the next year too. Good point. Howard Stern was competing in the summer against reruns, when in prior years the show wasn't. It has no competition except Gordon Ramsey shows, who beats AGT in the key demos typically. Kind of sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted April 11, 2014 Good point. Howard Stern was competing in the summer against reruns, when in prior years the show wasn't. It has no competition except Gordon Ramsey shows, who beats AGT in the key demos typically. Kind of sad. Actually the first season with him the premeire was up against How I Met your Mother, Dancin with the STars, 2 and a half men...and so on. And it still rated #1 in its timeslot and #2 for its night. And was basically #1 or #2 the entire season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted April 11, 2014 yet somehow you still think the Jon Stewart is a moron. When he routinely goes on other people shows and schools them on the issues.just because you don't agree with a guy doesn't make him a moron. but calling somebody a moron because you do disagree with him makes you a moron. He is a moron. It has NOTHING whatsoever to do with his positions on issues, it is that he seems like a doofus and does not understand simple things like the difference between the debt and the deficit. How you came to the conclusion that I think he is a moron simply because I disagree with him is very moronic though. Hell, many folks on this very forum are close to the same as him on the issues and I do not think they are morons, and I am even friends with many. So the entire premise of your assumption is invalid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,797 Posted April 12, 2014 He is a moron. It has NOTHING whatsoever to do with his positions on issues, it is that he seems like a doofus and does not understand simple things like the difference between the debt and the deficit. How you came to the conclusion that I think he is a moron simply because I disagree with him is very moronic though. Hell, many folks on this very forum are close to the same as him on the issues and I do not think they are morons, and I am even friends with many. So the entire premise of your assumption is invalid. the fact that you actually think you have friends on this board is both sad and pathetic. How many if you actually had a f****** beer with? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 601 Posted April 12, 2014 He is a moron. It has NOTHING whatsoever to do with his positions on issues, it is that he seems like a doofus and does not understand simple things like the difference between the debt and the deficit. How you came to the conclusion that I think he is a moron simply because I disagree with him is very moronic though. Hell, many folks on this very forum are close to the same as him on the issues and I do not think they are morons, and I am even friends with many. So the entire premise of your assumption is invalid. You know that's a character, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CantTouchThis 23 Posted April 12, 2014 He is a moron. It has NOTHING whatsoever to do with his positions on issues, it is that he seems like a doofus and does not understand simple things like the difference between the debt and the deficit. How you came to the conclusion that I think he is a moron simply because I disagree with him is very moronic though. Hell, many folks on this very forum are close to the same as him on the issues and I do not think they are morons, and I am even friends with many. So the entire premise of your assumption is invalid. Ever seen him in interviews/debates? The ones I've seen he pretty much annihilates the other person, especially against O'Reilly, which is not very hard to do. His show is done in character to mostly entertain and be funny, while being somewhat informative. Out of character, he is one of the more knowledgeable celebrities out there, especially on politics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,797 Posted April 12, 2014 Ever seen him in interviews/debates? The ones I've seen he pretty much annihilates the other person, especially against O'Reilly, which is not very hard to do. His show is done in character to mostly entertain and be funny, while being somewhat informative. Out of character, he is one of the more knowledgeable celebrities out there, especially on politics. he has consistently walked into the lion's den and O'Reilly and crossfire and just ruined these guys. all he has is he's a moron! Colts might as well call him a poopy face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CantTouchThis 23 Posted April 12, 2014 he has consistently walked into the lion's den and O'Reilly and crossfire and just ruined these guys. all he has is he's a moron! Colts might as well call him a poopy face. O'Reilly gets owned by a lot of people because his argument is always the same and he is never will to give the other side ANYTHING at all. You cannot logically debate someone in anything and not be willing to give the other side some credit or acknowledgment unless their view is completely off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,797 Posted April 12, 2014 O'Reilly gets owned by a lot of people because his argument is always the same and he is never will to give the other side ANYTHING at all. You cannot logically debate someone in anything and not be willing to give the other side some credit or acknowledgment unless their view is completely off. and yes I think he is far and away the smartest guy on Fox News Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted April 12, 2014 Ever seen him in interviews/debates? The ones I've seen he pretty much annihilates the other person, especially against O'Reilly, which is not very hard to do. His show is done in character to mostly entertain and be funny, while being somewhat informative. Out of character, he is one of the more knowledgeable celebrities out there, especially on politics. Yep. He was completely lost on the difference between the debt and the deficit in one, even after it was spelled out to him. Another he seemed very confused on the meaning of the word modesty. I was just making a focking joke about the guy and the people who ONLY get their info from him and nowhere else(I know plenty of folks that only watch this show and think they are highly informed), because the only time I see this guy, he is making a fool out of himself. However, I do not make it a point to search out a comedians opinion on current events, so there is a good chance I missed something. I do not have a big sampling of his comedy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,177 Posted April 12, 2014 and yes I think he is far and away the smartest guy on Fox News Smarter than Chris Wallace or any of the actual NEWS people on Fox News? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted April 12, 2014 jerry reads Hustler for the articles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vince44 208 Posted April 13, 2014 What ever happened to Craig Kilborn? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad GLuckman 519 Posted April 14, 2014 O'Reilly gets owned by a lot of people because his argument is always the same and he is never will to give the other side ANYTHING at all. You cannot logically debate someone in anything and not be willing to give the other side some credit or acknowledgment unless their view is completely off. Every time I've seen Stewart with O'Reilly, they seem to have a friendly little back and forth. I never got the vibe that one was "destroyed" or "owned". Stewart did embarrass Tucker Carlson on CNN a while back, though. Who else do you feel owned O'Reilly? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted April 14, 2014 Actually the first season with him the premeire was up against How I Met your Mother, Dancin with the STars, 2 and a half men...and so on. And it still rated #1 in its timeslot and #2 for its night. And was basically #1 or #2 the entire season. Are we talking about a one week overlap? AGT is on during the summer, when there is nothing on against it other than filler programming and reruns. Just look around right now. A bunch of shows have already wrapped for the season/year. AGT isn't close to being on the air yet this year. As far as the number, it's audiences trends very old. It draws a terrible percentage in 18-34 and 18-49. Those are the only numbers that matter to the networks and advertisers. The only change the show made before the ratings plunge was to replace Piers Morgan with Howard Stern, and move the show to New York instead of Los Angeles. And we know Piers Morgan could only draw 50,000 viewers to his CNN show. So, in essence, Stern is ratings poison, based on that algebra. Just the way I'm seeing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted April 14, 2014 Are we talking about a one week overlap? AGT is on during the summer, when there is nothing on against it other than filler programming and reruns. Just look around right now. A bunch of shows have already wrapped for the season/year. AGT isn't close to being on the air yet this year. As far as the number, it's audiences trends very old. It draws a terrible percentage in 18-34 and 18-49. Those are the only numbers that matter to the networks and advertisers. The only change the show made before the ratings plunge was to replace Piers Morgan with Howard Stern, and move the show to New York instead of Los Angeles. And we know Piers Morgan could only draw 50,000 viewers to his CNN show. So, in essence, Stern is ratings poison, based on that algebra. Just the way I'm seeing it. I was talking of the premiere (and probably the first few weeks of the auditions in May) which went up against those things and still did very well. 3.7 in that key demographic (same as How I Met Your Mother). It actually did worse in the summer after the auditions stages. Where it was still dominating its slot and night. Bit different than the previous year that started at the very end of May and then its ratings also went down some. Ratings also went down last season. Not really shocking that a show going 8 seasons having its ratings drop some. Very little of it had to do with Stern. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted April 14, 2014 I was talking of the premiere (and probably the first few weeks of the auditions in May) which went up against those things and still did very well. 3.7 in that key demographic (same as How I Met Your Mother). It actually did worse in the summer after the auditions stages. Where it was still dominating its slot and night. Bit different than the previous year that started at the very end of May and then its ratings also went down some. Ratings also went down last season. Not really shocking that a show going 8 seasons having its ratings drop some. Very little of it had to do with Stern. Well, we will throw numbers at each other and not agree. It's a crossroads. So be it. I just happen to think Stern is a bigger part in the show's decline that you, but the numbers have declined. However, given that adding Stern, it would be fair to say, did not improve the show's ratings. The ratings did not go up. That is indisputable. So, CBS would have really made a curious decision if they went with 'ole man Stern given that they knew this and how all the networks are going with younger hosts as the trends. But I know that you originally would agree with that premise. I'm not sure if there is much more ground to cover here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted April 14, 2014 Every time I've seen Stewart with O'Reilly, they seem to have a friendly little back and forth. I never got the vibe that one was "destroyed" or "owned". Stewart did embarrass Tucker Carlson on CNN a while back, though. Who else do you feel owned O'Reilly? You seem to have some emotional investment in this. You do know O'Reilly is just a media personality and most of what he says is probably just an act, right? Same for all those hosers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad GLuckman 519 Posted April 14, 2014 You seem to have some emotional investment in this. You do know O'Reilly is just a media personality and most of what he says is probably just an act, right? Same for all those hosers This is my first post on the topic. Now sure why asking for examples of him getting owned means I'm "emotionally invested" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites