parrot 790 Posted December 4, 2015 Who was redeemed? It wasn't Andy. He was innocent in the first place. Maybe his escape was "redemption" from being wrongfully imprisoned, but I'm not sure that makes a lot of sense. Was it the prison itself, since the Warden and Hadley finally get served with a little justice. Was it Red? Maybe King thought it just sounded good. Thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fumbleweed 555 Posted December 4, 2015 Since Red is the narrator, I always took it to be that the story is ultimately about him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,424 Posted December 4, 2015 The rapers were redeemed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 790 Posted December 4, 2015 Since Red is the narrator, I always took it to be that the story is ultimately about him. Hey fumble. Could be, but he's pretty much telling Andy's story for the most part. That's kind of where I ended up too, but I remain skeptical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted December 4, 2015 Get busy livin, or get busy dyin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,032 Posted December 4, 2015 The guy who learned to read. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 790 Posted December 4, 2015 Get busy livin, or get busy dyin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,541 Posted December 4, 2015 Boggs. He left Shawshank and never raped another man again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 1,018 Posted December 4, 2015 The prison itself. Shawshank was "redeemed" from bad to good. I would've changed the ending and called it "Where's That Damn Box!?!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted December 4, 2015 Brooks was here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,541 Posted December 4, 2015 The prison itself. Shawshank was "redeemed" from bad to good. I would've changed the ending and called it "Where's That Damn Box!?!" Nope, I would have changed the title to "Town in Mexico---Zappato, Zazlo...fock what was the name of that place???" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 790 Posted December 4, 2015 The prison itself. Shawshank was "redeemed" from bad to good. I would've changed the ending and called it "Where's That Damn Box!?!" How do we know this? Maybe the next Warden/Guard combo was even worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,032 Posted December 4, 2015 How do we know this? Maybe the next Warden/Guard combo was even worse. There wasn't a sequel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,724 Posted December 4, 2015 I mean, seriously, how often do you really look at a mans shoes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 790 Posted December 4, 2015 There wasn't a sequel. Does "The Green Mile" take place in Shawshank? They executed an innocent magical being. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BiPolarBear 497 Posted December 4, 2015 Does "The Green Mile" take place in Shawshank? I don't know, but it was a mouse-shank redemption fur sure. (yes the "fur" is intentional) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerkStore 13 Posted December 4, 2015 This thread is crazier than a rat in a tin shithouse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,996 Posted December 4, 2015 Since Red is the narrator, I always took it to be that the story is ultimately about him. Agreed.. Red basically spells it out for us in his speech to the Parole board... For the 1st time since his incarceration, Red presents himself as a humbled, remorseful, rehabilitated man. His redemption is further proven by his desire to go back in time, go back and talk to that young, stupid boy - tell him how things are. One thing I never got though... As brilliant, sharp and keen as Andy was - how did he not have a better lawyer, how did he get beat and convicted on such a bogus charge? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted December 4, 2015 Agreed.. Red basically spells it out for us in his speech to the Parole board... For the 1st time since his incarceration, Red presents himself as a humbled, remorseful, rehabilitated man. His redemption is further proven by his desire to go back in time, go back and talk to that young, stupid boy - tell him how things are. One thing I never got though... As brilliant, sharp and keen as Andy was - how did he not have a better lawyer, how did he get beat and convicted on such a bogus charge? Probably got advice from an internet lawyer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,541 Posted December 4, 2015 Agreed.. Red basically spells it out for us in his speech to the Parole board... For the 1st time since his incarceration, Red presents himself as a humbled, remorseful, rehabilitated man. His redemption is further proven by his desire to go back in time, go back and talk to that young, stupid boy - tell him how things are. One thing I never got though... As brilliant, sharp and keen as Andy was - how did he not have a better lawyer, how did he get beat and convicted on such a bogus charge? Probably cause if he had, then there would have been no need for King to write the story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dain11279 985 Posted December 4, 2015 One thing I never got though... As brilliant, sharp and keen as Andy was - how did he not have a better lawyer, how did he get beat and convicted on such a bogus charge? I thought it was a pretty solid case against him actually. That was extremely sh1tty luck though. His wife and her lover get murdered the same night that he was earlier sitting outside with a loaded gun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,134 Posted December 4, 2015 Agreed.. Red basically spells it out for us in his speech to the Parole board... For the 1st time since his incarceration, Red presents himself as a humbled, remorseful, rehabilitated man. His redemption is further proven by his desire to go back in time, go back and talk to that young, stupid boy - tell him how things are. This is correct. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mookz 1,388 Posted December 4, 2015 I can't claim to have seen the movie, but I always assumed it was about a guy who uses a coupon from his local Shaw's circular to get a great price on some prime lamb cuts. Tell me where I'm wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,727 Posted December 5, 2015 I can't claim to have seen the movie, but I always assumed it was about a guy who uses a coupon from his local Shaw's circular to get a great price on some prime lamb cuts. Tell me where I'm wrong. You've never seen Shawshank Redemption? One of the greatest movies of all time. The prison is Shawshank and Redemption means the act of saving or being saved from sin or evil. I think the title is pretty self explanatory but I could be wrong Stephen King is kind of a nutcase so who knows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,622 Posted December 5, 2015 Probably got advice from an internet lawyer. http://images.cryhavok.org/d/12443-1/LOLcat+-+I+are+Lawyer+Cat.jpg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted December 6, 2015 I can't claim to have seen the movie, but I always assumed it was about a guy who uses a coupon from his local Shaw's circular to get a great price on some prime lamb cuts. Tell me where I'm wrong. Story is straight Osso Buco Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mookz 1,388 Posted December 6, 2015 You've never seen Shawshank Redemption? One of the greatest movies of all time. The prison is Shawshank and Redemption means the act of saving or being saved from sin or evil. I think the title is pretty self explanatory but I could be wrong Stephen King is kind of a nutcase so who knows. I was exaggerating - I have seen a lot of it over the years. Just not enough to refute my assumption, I guess. I'll give it another look. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 790 Posted December 7, 2015 Nope, I would have changed the title to "Town in Mexico---Zappato, Zazlo...fock what was the name of that place???" Everybody catch what Red calls Andy's plan when they're discussing it? "A shitty pipe-dream." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,541 Posted December 7, 2015 Everybody catch what Red calls Andy's plan when they're discussing it? "A shitty pipe-dream." You know, I'm really good with stuff like that, and NEVER put that together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 790 Posted December 7, 2015 You know, I'm really good with stuff like that, and NEVER put that together. I never did either, saw it on Reddit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 897 Posted December 7, 2015 it's all about brook's bird jake ya dumasses Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Q.T. 5 Posted December 7, 2015 Who was redeemed? It wasn't Andy. He was innocent in the first place. Maybe his escape was "redemption" from being wrongfully imprisoned, but I'm not sure that makes a lot of sense. Was it the prison itself, since the Warden and Hadley finally get served with a little justice. Was it Red? Maybe King thought it just sounded good. Thoughts? Frank Darabont, the director. Seriously ... how did such a good film come from the same man who brought you The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles, The Fly II, and A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 790 Posted December 7, 2015 Frank Darabont, the director. Seriously ... how did such a good film come from the same man who brought you The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles, The Fly II, and A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors? Not to mention The Walking Dead. I kid. TWD was much better when Darabont was involved IMO. Getting rid of him was probably the dumbest thing they did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
montana 89 Posted December 7, 2015 Fresh fish! Fresh fish! Fresh fish! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites