Voltaire 5,317 Posted March 9, 2016 I don't get how you figure trump is the only one who might not suck. The man is a doosh. A petulant child. A cook. A buffoon. So you're ok with "at least he's a different kind of scumbag?" If this was the Congressional race, I could accept the "burn it down" theory. But this office controls the strongest military in the history of mankind. The power to destroy the earth. And you want to hand it to that crazy, vengeful, petulant hot head? I virtually guarantee a war during a trump administration. Think about those kids and thier families before you make a statement vote. If avoiding war is a motivating factor, and it should be, then unlike Rubio or Hillary, Trump doesn't seem particularly anxious to get mixed up knee-deep in Islamic Middle East sh1tholes. His hands off approach is a major selling point. Also, Trump isn't the problem I'm concerned about. The Romney/Bush/Rubio/McConnells and their paymasters are far greater. We have an opportunity right here to fock their world over, I'm not missing it. If Trump succeeds: great, he's transformed the party into something better and we all benefit. If he fails: well that sucks, but since he's a Republican, he takes all their scum asses down with him. I hate the current Republican Party. This is an opportunity to either reform them or to totally sh1tcan them. We may never get another chance in my lifetime. Pardon me for being excited to see what happens and how far this thing can play out. That's the overall long term plan. I don't think it comes to pass because he's probably going to lose to Hillary. Still, one can dream. The man isn't guaranteed to fail and suck. Hillary is. I don't want what she's selling. So if it's either the devil I know or the devil I don't ... the thing with that is: the devil I don't had a lot of intangible bonuses. Look, if Trump somehow really does become President and then really does fock up ... oops ... sorry Republicans, I helped wreck your Party. It probably wasn't nice of me using your tie to wipe my ass like that. Well anyways, if any of you guys left are interested in governing properly and balancing the budget and not being world policemen, let me know; I'll help clean up. Otherwise, I'm out of here. I'll go back to voting for the Dems. Have a nice day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,317 Posted March 9, 2016 Let me make something clear. Yes, I do find voting for Trump to be a way to Hate Fock the Republican Party. But it's not just a Hate Fock. I also really do sincerely feel he'd not only be a less bad President than Hillary; he has the potential to be a good or great one. (Or a disaster too, there's a large range of possibilities). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted March 9, 2016 Hillary losing Michigan is a big deal, the Dem establishment can't be happy about that one. Another example of why you can't treat the polls as gospel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted March 9, 2016 Let me make something clear. Yes, I do find voting for Trump to be a way to Hate Fock the Republican Party. But it's not just a Hate Fock. I also really do sincerely feel he'd not only be a less bad President than Hillary; he has the potential to be a good or great one. (Or a disaster too, there's a large range of possibilities). We hate the political establishment and our mainstream media. Both of whom are tilting on Trump. And we are falling for it. It's not a Hate Fock for the Republican party, it's a Hate Fock for BOTH parties and the media. They ALL deserve this. Trumps made billions in a city filled with Jews, Gays and Illegals, and people compare him to Hitler. Seriously? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted March 9, 2016 Hillary losing Michigan is a big deal, the Dem establishment can't be happy about that one. Another example of why you can't treat the polls as gospel. This is the real takeaway from last night...but the media is in full cream-their-pants mode over Trump, so it went largely unnoticed. Shocking defeat for Hillary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,246 Posted March 9, 2016 Let me make something clear. Yes, I do find voting for Trump to be a way to Hate Fock the Republican Party. But it's not just a Hate Fock. I also really do sincerely feel he'd not only be a less bad President than Hillary; he has the potential to be a good or great one. (Or a disaster too, there's a large range of possibilities). I agree. And while I THOROUGHLY enjoy watching the political establishment writhe about, as well as the media too, I had anticipated this would eventually run its course, but the situation is getting a little too real for me now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,471 Posted March 9, 2016 What planet are you guys on? The media LOVES Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted March 9, 2016 Trump was still unable to crack 50% in any state last night, and only won 15 more delegates than Cruz. Far more people are voting against him than are voting for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,246 Posted March 9, 2016 What planet are you guys on? The media LOVES Trump. They do. They bash him, lament him, but in the end they lurve the ratings he brings to them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted March 9, 2016 . Trump was still unable to crack 50% in any state last night, and only won 15 more delegates than Cruz. Far more people are voting against him than are voting for him. Let's be honest, he came very close in Mississippi. 49% roughly. The real test will be if Kasich or Rubio drop out, who does that support go to? If any of it goes to Trump, it's over. He'll run away with it. However, there's a distinct chance it rolls over to "anybody but Trump", in which case, that makes it harder. But, the longer those two nimrods stay in, the better Trumps chances are because the others are splitting the votes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,246 Posted March 9, 2016 Trump was still unable to crack 50% in any state last night, and only won 15 more delegates than Cruz. Far more people are voting against him than are voting for him. The point is, he keeps winning, and is gaining ground. While both he and Cruz are frontrunners because of their perception as "outside of the establishment", Trump keeps gaining.....once can safely assume that either one comes out and gets the others votes, but who is legitimately worse between them? I think at this point, as much as the Repubs hate Cruz, they would warmly welcome his candidacy over Trump..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted March 9, 2016 Volty... You are celebrating because Donald focking trump is leading the race for a nomination of a major Party to be president of the United States. Leader of the free world. Man who has the launch codes. Do you realize how fast that Baffoon could make your life in China untenable by starting some bull crap with China or Russia? Even a minor incident will have you and me dodging rocks, and people calling your wife a traitor and worse. Seriously man. I get the hate for the republican mainstream. I've hated them for decades. But stop it. This is a game of chicken and it's time to swerve. For sanitys sake. The fact that he gets people like you so up in arms is my little slice of heaven each morning. What makes you think he's not intelligent and level headed? What is that assessment based on? He might be an arrogant . But he's a successful, condescending (when he needs to be), intelligent who doesn't give a crap what people think about him or how voters might react to what he says. He's saying things we all pretty much agree with. Political Correctness has gone entirely too far. Playing nice guy on the world stage so people don't hate us isn't working. This country is clearly in a decline. He's saying it needs to be fixed. He's frugal with his money, he's funding his own campaign, and he's not bought by special interests. He can't do any worse than the last 16 years+. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted March 9, 2016 The point is, he keeps winning, and is gaining ground. While both he and Cruz are frontrunners because of their perception as "outside of the establishment", Trump keeps gaining.....once can safely assume that either one comes out and gets the others votes, but who is legitimately worse between them? I think at this point, as much as the Repubs hate Cruz, they would warmly welcome his candidacy over Trump..... But the point is...so many voting against him...will bite him in the ass come general election time. Im not so sure they will guarantee his votes. I could see Trump voters staying him rather than voting for Cruz or Hillary. Cruz voters are harder to figure out...because, as bad as Trump is, I can understand some of the appeal. But Cruz has zero redeeming qualities...he is complete slime and most people really just don't like the man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted March 9, 2016 The fact that he gets people like you so up in arms is my little slice of heaven each morning. What makes you think he's not intelligent and level headed? What is that assessment based on? He might be an arrogant ######. But he's a successful, condescending (when he needs to be), intelligent ###### who doesn't give a crap what people think about him or how voters might react to what he says. He's saying things we all pretty much agree with. Political Correctness has gone entirely too far. Playing nice guy on the world stage so people don't hate us isn't working. This country is clearly in a decline. He's saying it needs to be fixed. He's frugal with his money, he's funding his own campaign, and he's not bought by special interests. He can't do any worse than the last 16 years+. What has he done or said that makes him level headed? The PC thing is still the most bogus excuse. Him being a complete rude classless ass has nothing to do with PC. Its a weak excuse for people to not care that the guy has said some things that are pretty bigotted and pretty damn close to racist (if you don't want to agree they are full on racist crap). He is not funding his own campaign either... And yes, he could do far worse than the last 16 years. (and if elected, likely would do far worse than Bush and Obama) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,471 Posted March 9, 2016 Trump was still unable to crack 50% in any state last night, and only won 15 more delegates than Cruz. Far more people are voting against him than are voting for him. You're assuming that every vote that Trump doesn't get is a vote "against" Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted March 9, 2016 What has he done or said that makes him level headed? He built a billion dollar empire. You don't do that by being a moron who's unable to make sound decisions. The PC thing is still the most bogus excuse. Him being a complete rude classless ass has nothing to do with PC. Its a weak excuse for people to not care that the guy has said some things that are pretty bigotted and pretty damn close to racist (if you don't want to agree they are full on racist crap). What has he said that's racist or bigoted? Rosie O'Donnel is a fat pig? She is. He is not funding his own campaign either...Who's paying for it? And yes, he could do far worse than the last 16 years. (and if elected, likely would do far worse than Bush and Obama) Based on what? Sounds to me like you're being emotional about it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted March 9, 2016 Neither Rubio or Kasich is going to drop out less than a week from their home states Primary. The field will whittle more a week from today. If Rubio loses Florida he should and all things point to will drop out. If Kasich loses Ohio, he too will drop out. But I don't think some of y'all understand how all this works. 1. Trump has to get to the majority of the delegates. There are a total of 2,474 Deledgates up for grabs. Half of that is the magic number of 1237. A candidates doesn't WIN the nomination until it gets at least half the delegates and is the MAJORITY nominee. Donald is a long long way from that because he is not winning any of these with the majority (percentage wise). This is headed to the convention. Now if Donald has a huge lead at the convention, then they'll vote him the nominee. BUT and this is the big BUT. If he starts to wane at all. If anybody is hovering close by and showing promise then who knows what happens. 2. Take a look at one of those Primaries by state USA map. All of the Southern States have already had their primaries now. Save for Florida and that isn't really a typical "Southern" state. Nor is NC. Hardly any of the Rust Belt has held theirs yet. Hardly any west and northwest coast states have held theirs yet. The South has spoken for Trump and Hillary, but the country has not. Look, both Hillary and Donald have the leads. Conventional wisdom and the odds say they will eventually get the nominations, but its not over due to the reasons I just stated. And just yesterday a new poll was out for the GOPfrom WSJ/CBS. National Poll of support. Trump was at 30%, Cruz 27%, Kasich 24% and Rubio 21% That is nationally, which means the northern and western states, who's Primaries are coming up are not as Trump-Cruz heavy as what we've seen int he SouthEast so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted March 9, 2016 Neither Rubio or Kasich is going to drop out less than a week from their home states Primary. The field will whittle more a week from today. If Rubio loses Florida he should and all things point to will drop out. If Kasich loses Ohio, he too will drop out. But I don't think some of y'all understand how all this works. 1. Trump has to get to the majority of the delegates. There are a total of 2,474 Deledgates up for grabs. Half of that is the magic number of 1237. A candidates doesn't WIN the nomination until it gets at least half the delegates and is the MAJORITY nominee. Donald is a long long way from that because he is not winning any of these with the majority (percentage wise). This is headed to the convention. Now if Donald has a huge lead at the convention, then they'll vote him the nominee. BUT and this is the big BUT. If he starts to wane at all. If anybody is hovering close by and showing promise then who knows what happens. 2. Take a look at one of those Primaries by state USA map. All of the Southern States have already had their primaries now. Save for Florida and that isn't really a typical "Southern" state. Nor is NC. Hardly any of the Rust Belt has held theirs yet. Hardly any west and northwest coast states have held theirs yet. The South has spoken for Trump and Hillary, but the country has not. Look, both Hillary and Donald have the leads. Conventional wisdom and the odds say they will eventually get the nominations, but its not over due to the reasons I just stated. And just yesterday a new poll was out for the GOPfrom WSJ/CBS. National Poll of support. Trump was at 30%, Cruz 27%, Kasich 24% and Rubio 21% That is nationally, which means the northern and western states, who's Primaries are coming up are not as Trump-Cruz heavy as what we've seen int he SouthEast so far. Agreed. This is far from over. Trump is posed to win, but it's going to depend on what happens when Kasich and Rubio drop out. If those voters abstain, Trump will win. If they switch to Trump, Trump will win. However, if they switch to Cruz, we have ourselves a VERY ugly convention. Excellent Take! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted March 9, 2016 The fact that he gets people like you so up in arms is my little slice of heaven each morning. What makes you think he's not intelligent and level headed? What is that assessment based on? He might be an arrogant ######. But he's a successful, condescending (when he needs to be), intelligent ###### who doesn't give a crap what people think about him or how voters might react to what he says. He's saying things we all pretty much agree with. Political Correctness has gone entirely too far. Playing nice guy on the world stage so people don't hate us isn't working. This country is clearly in a decline. He's saying it needs to be fixed. He's frugal with his money, he's funding his own campaign, and he's not bought by special interests. He can't do any worse than the last 16 years+. Oh let's see. I have yet to see anything loosely resembling a plan or an idea come from him. He has absolutely no diplomacy. Which is bad in a chief diplomat. He openly threatens revenge against anyone who criticizes him. I'm sure the most powerful position on earth will only improve all that. Tell me again. Besides saying pithy rah rah anti pc stuff, what is the focking upside here? What possible valid reason is there to vote for this guy? Remember eight years ago, when people worried about mccains temperament? Trumps is far worse. And I should welcome his nomination. Because Hillary will crush him. Or Bernie. Or damn near anyone. No way he survives a series of one on one debates. The magic is already starting to wear off. The fact that nobody can point to a single positive policy and relies on what he is "against" is proof enough. You don't lead by being anti things. You lead by showing people where to follow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,484 Posted March 9, 2016 Kasich should have done better in Michigan. His anti Union stance hurts in states with a union presence. Basically being tied with Cruz in his neighboring state does not bode well for Ohio. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted March 9, 2016 Kasich should have done better in Michigan. His anti Union stance hurts in states with a union presence. Basically being tied with Cruz in his neighboring state does not bode well for Ohio. He was polling at 12% in Michigan just a week ago and finished all but tied for 2nd with twice that. Now that the field is whittling down (and he's finally getting air time on the networks) people are actually paying attention. He has gained the most ground than anyone the past two weeks in National Polls. It's prolly to late, yes, no doubt. But he is on the upswing more than anyone. He's gained 11 points in the National polls this week. +11. Trump was -1 and Rubio -4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted March 9, 2016 This is the real takeaway from last night...but the media is in full cream-their-pants mode over Trump, so it went largely unnoticed. Shocking defeat for Hillary. The media is in the bag for Hillary. Totally downplaying or outright ignoring Sanders' victories. When it comes to the delegate count they always show it with the super delegates so it looks like Hilary's lead is completely insurmountable. I'm glad people are seeing through the bullsh1t in the northern states. Not much you can do about the south as has always been the case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted March 9, 2016 What has he done or said that makes him level headed? He built a billion dollar empire. You don't do that by being a moron who's unable to make sound decisions. The PC thing is still the most bogus excuse. Him being a complete rude classless ass has nothing to do with PC. Its a weak excuse for people to not care that the guy has said some things that are pretty bigotted and pretty damn close to racist (if you don't want to agree they are full on racist crap). What has he said that's racist or bigoted? Rosie O'Donnel is a fat pig? She is. He is not funding his own campaign either...Who's paying for it? And yes, he could do far worse than the last 16 years. (and if elected, likely would do far worse than Bush and Obama) Based on what? Sounds to me like you're being emotional about it. Didn't say he was a moron. Though, you may want to read more into all of his deals if you think he is so great. His words and actions thus far show him to be pretty hot headed and talks before he thinks. Fine with the idiot american public, but not fine in foreign relations. You are denying things he has said could be construed as racist or bigoted? Seriously, your head is planted deep in the sand here. Based on what? Based on how bad I think he would set us back internationally. Based on how he continues to prove how clueless he is about such things with what he says, and then has to backtrack on after his handlers tell him his thoughts were wrong or illegal. Thats not emotional...Im being rational, unlike Trump supporters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted March 9, 2016 The fact that he gets people like you so up in arms is my little slice of heaven each morning. What makes you think he's not intelligent and level headed? What is that assessment based on? He might be an arrogant ######. But he's a successful, condescending (when he needs to be), intelligent ###### who doesn't give a crap what people think about him or how voters might react to what he says. He's saying things we all pretty much agree with. Political Correctness has gone entirely too far. Playing nice guy on the world stage so people don't hate us isn't working. This country is clearly in a decline. He's saying it needs to be fixed. He's frugal with his money, he's funding his own campaign, and he's not bought by special interests. He can't do any worse than the last 16 years+. I definitely don't agree with a good deal of what he says. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted March 9, 2016 Anybody able to post the Las Vegas Betting Odds as of today on the races? I would but I'm at work and do not have access. I'd be interested. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted March 9, 2016 Oh let's see. I have yet to see anything loosely resembling a plan or an idea come from him. He has absolutely no diplomacy. Which is bad in a chief diplomat. He openly threatens revenge against anyone who criticizes him. I'm sure the most powerful position on earth will only improve all that. Tell me again. Besides saying pithy rah rah anti pc stuff, what is the focking upside here? What possible valid reason is there to vote for this guy? Remember eight years ago, when people worried about mccains temperament? Trumps is far worse. And I should welcome his nomination. Because Hillary will crush him. Or Bernie. Or damn near anyone. No way he survives a series of one on one debates. The magic is already starting to wear off. The fact that nobody can point to a single positive policy and relies on what he is "against" is proof enough. You don't lead by being anti things. You lead by showing people where to follow. You are focking delusional. Do you watch the news? The man is kicking everybody's a$$. Positions? Try reading. I'll post one example at the end so it doesn't make this post unreadable. The upside is he's not beholden to anyone. He isn't bought and paid for, promising the world only to never deliver because his pockets are lined with special interest money. He doesn't care if people don't like him. That's a good thing. That's what Alpha's do. If you are SO sure Hillary would stomp him in the General, then agree to the $50 bet I have going on with others. Put your money where your mouth is. If both Trump and Hillary make the general, I'm saying Trump wins. If he loses I pay. If he wins, you pay. Positions: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions Health Care: Since March of 2010, the American people have had to suffer under the incredible economic burden of the Affordable Care Act—Obamacare. This legislation, passed by totally partisan votes in the House and Senate and signed into law by the most divisive and partisan President in American history, has tragically but predictably resulted in runaway costs, websites that don’t work, greater rationing of care, higher premiums, less competition and fewer choices. Obamacare has raised the economic uncertainty of every single person residing in this country. As it appears Obamacare is certain to collapse of its own weight, the damage done by the Democrats and President Obama, and abetted by the Supreme Court, will be difficult to repair unless the next President and a Republican congress lead the effort to bring much-needed free market reforms to the healthcare industry. But none of these positive reforms can be accomplished without Obamacare repeal. On day one of the Trump Administration, we will ask Congress to immediately deliver a full repeal of Obamacare. However, it is not enough to simply repeal this terrible legislation. We will work with Congress to make sure we have a series of reforms ready for implementation that follow free market principles and that will restore economic freedom and certainty to everyone in this country. By following free market principles and working together to create sound public policy that will broaden healthcare access, make healthcare more affordable and improve the quality of the care available to all Americans. Any reform effort must begin with Congress. Since Obamacare became law, conservative Republicans have been offering reforms that can be delivered individually or as part of more comprehensive reform efforts. In the remaining sections of this policy paper, several reforms will be offered that should be considered by Congress so that on the first day of the Trump Administration, we can start the process of restoring faith in government and economic liberty to the people. Congress must act. Our elected representatives in the House and Senate must: Completely repeal Obamacare. Our elected representatives must eliminate the individual mandate. No person should be required to buy insurance unless he or she wants to. Modify existing law that inhibits the sale of health insurance across state lines. As long as the plan purchased complies with state requirements, any vendor ought to be able to offer insurance in any state. By allowing full competition in this market, insurance costs will go down and consumer satisfaction will go up. Allow individuals to fully deduct health insurance premium payments from their tax returns under the current tax system. Businesses are allowed to take these deductions so why wouldn’t Congress allow individuals the same exemptions? As we allow the free market to provide insurance coverage opportunities to companies and individuals, we must also make sure that no one slips through the cracks simply because they cannot afford insurance. We must review basic options for Medicaid and work with states to ensure that those who want healthcare coverage can have it. Allow individuals to use Health Savings Accounts (HSAs). Contributions into HSAs should be tax-free and should be allowed to accumulate. These accounts would become part of the estate of the individual and could be passed on to heirs without fear of any death penalty. These plans should be particularly attractive to young people who are healthy and can afford high-deductible insurance plans. These funds can be used by any member of a family without penalty. The flexibility and security provided by HSAs will be of great benefit to all who participate. Require price transparency from all healthcare providers, especially doctors and healthcare organizations like clinics and hospitals. Individuals should be able to shop to find the best prices for procedures, exams or any other medical-related procedure. Block-grant Medicaid to the states. Nearly every state already offers benefits beyond what is required in the current Medicaid structure. The state governments know their people best and can manage the administration of Medicaid far better without federal overhead. States will have the incentives to seek out and eliminate fraud, waste and abuse to preserve our precious resources. Remove barriers to entry into free markets for drug providers that offer safe, reliable and cheaper products. Congress will need the courage to step away from the special interests and do what is right for America. Though the pharmaceutical industry is in the private sector, drug companies provide a public service. Allowing consumers access to imported, safe and dependable drugs from overseas will bring more options to consumers. The reforms outlined above will lower healthcare costs for all Americans. They are simply a place to start. There are other reforms that might be considered if they serve to lower costs, remove uncertainty and provide financial security for all Americans. And we must also take actions in other policy areas to lower healthcare costs and burdens. Enforcing immigration laws, eliminating fraud and waste and energizing our economy will relieve the economic pressures felt by every American. It is the moral responsibility of a nation’s government to do what is best for the people and what is in the interest of securing the future of the nation. Providing healthcare to illegal immigrants costs us some $11 billion annually. If we were to simply enforce the current immigration laws and restrict the unbridled granting of visas to this country, we could relieve healthcare cost pressures on state and local governments. To reduce the number of individuals needing access to programs like Medicaid and Children’s Health Insurance Program we will need to install programs that grow the economy and bring capital and jobs back to America. The best social program has always been a job – and taking care of our economy will go a long way towards reducing our dependence on public health programs. Finally, we need to reform our mental health programs and institutions in this country. Families, without the ability to get the information needed to help those who are ailing, are too often not given the tools to help their loved ones. There are promising reforms being developed in Congress that should receive bi-partisan support. To reform healthcare in America, we need a President who has the leadership skills, will and courage to engage the American people and convince Congress to do what is best for the country. These straightforward reforms, along with many others I have proposed throughout my campaign, will ensure that together we will Make America Great Again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted March 9, 2016 Didn't say he was a moron. Though, you may want to read more into all of his deals if you think he is so great. His words and actions thus far show him to be pretty hot headed and talks before he thinks. Fine with the idiot american public, but not fine in foreign relations. You are denying things he has said could be construed as racist or bigoted? Seriously, your head is planted deep in the sand here. Based on what? Based on how bad I think he would set us back internationally. Based on how he continues to prove how clueless he is about such things with what he says, and then has to backtrack on after his handlers tell him his thoughts were wrong or illegal. Thats not emotional...Im being rational, unlike Trump supporters. Weak sauce. You provided zero examples to back up your claims. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted March 9, 2016 Weak sauce. You provided zero examples to back up your claims. You have the nerve to call anyone else delusional...and this is your reply to me? Hah!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted March 9, 2016 You have the nerve to call anyone else delusional...and this is your reply to me? Hah!!!!! Let me give you something to ponder. Donald Trump WILL be the next President of the United States of America. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted March 9, 2016 The upside is he's not beholden to anyone This is the most ironic thing I've heard this whole election cycle. You know how Jerry West is the symbol of the NBA, he is the guy in the red white and blue little NBA logo? Well if Crony Capitalism was a sport Donald Trump and his hair would be the logo of that league. He's admitted to paying off politicians for personal gain. He's admitted to cheating the system to gain personal favor in his business dealings. He IS Crony Capitalism. It's how he operates. How in the hell did we get to a point where people are pointing to Donald Trump as an example of integrity? Just ponder that for one second. Sheesh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted March 9, 2016 But, the longer those two nimrods stay in, the better Trumps chances are because the others are splitting the votes. The longer they stay in, the better the chances of a contested convention are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted March 9, 2016 Let me give you something to ponder. Donald Trump WILL be the next President of the United States of America. Your delusion and confidence and ignorance is amusing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,317 Posted March 9, 2016 He was polling at 12% in Michigan just a week ago and finished all but tied for 2nd with twice that. Now that the field is whittling down (and he's finally getting air time on the networks) people are actually paying attention. He has gained the most ground than anyone the past two weeks in National Polls. It's prolly to late, yes, no doubt. But he is on the upswing more than anyone. He's gained 11 points in the National polls this week. +11. Trump was -1 and Rubio -4. Kasich has nine lives. When the music stops in musical chairs, He's always the second to last person to sit down. The next one to drop is looking like Rubio rather than him. Kasich gets just enough support to continue. He has to win Ohio though and Rubio to lose Florida. Once Rubio is gone, although Kasich'll be way behind in delegates, he'll finally get his shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted March 9, 2016 Your delusion and confidence and ignorance is amusing. You seem awfully confident as well. Might I suggest you also engage in the friendly wager I've entered with others. $50? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted March 9, 2016 This is the most ironic thing I've heard this whole election cycle. You know how Jerry West is the symbol of the NBA, he is the guy in the red white and blue little NBA logo? Well if Crony Capitalism was a sport Donald Trump and his hair would be the logo of that league. He's admitted to paying off politicians for personal gain. He's admitted to cheating the system to gain personal favor in his business dealings. He IS Crony Capitalism. It's how he operates. How in the hell did we get to a point where people are pointing to Donald Trump as an example of integrity? Just ponder that for one second. Sheesh. I get what you're saying. I really do. But there is a difference. He's not the one getting bought off. He was the one doing the buying. While you might think there's no difference, I believe there is. Trump admits he's used bankruptcy laws, and political donations to get what he needed/wanted. He also know how the insider game works. It's quite possible he really does want to repair the country. It's also possible he's a nefarious liar, and will destroy us to get what he wants. Personally, I'm enjoying the probability of the nuclear option. Something has to change. Might as well kick this pig. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted March 9, 2016 You seem awfully confident as well. Might I suggest you also engage in the friendly wager I've entered with others. $50? I would as its easy money, but like Voltaire said that would mean I'd actually have a monetary investment in Hillary Clinton. And I just cannot stomach that based on principle alone. But I think you're nuts. Not because I dislike Donald. But the data is all pointing against you. This Trump hysteria you are in is smoke and mirrors on the National Scale. He's garnering his 35% in the GOP Primary but on the National Scale, in a General Election he is polling far less than most all other Republicans in all of History with Women, with Hispanics and with African Americans. Add int he fact that approximately 25% of registered republicans are saying they will not vote for him in a General (stay home) that all but nullifies any "new" people he brings in. A vote for Donald in the Primary is a vote for Hillary for President. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted March 9, 2016 I would as its easy money, but like Voltaire said that would mean I'd actually have a monetary investment in Hillary Clinton. And I just cannot stomach that based on principle alone. But I think you're nuts. Not because I dislike Donald. But the data is all pointing against you. This Trump hysteria you are in is smoke and mirrors on the National Scale. He's garnering his 35% in the GOP Primary but on the National State, in a General Election he is polling far less than most all other Republicans in all of History with Women, with Hispanics and with African Americans. Add int he fact that approximately 25% of registered republicans are saying they will not vote for him in a General (stay home) that all but nullifies any "new" people he brings in. A vote for Donald in the Primary is a vote for Hillary for President. Again, talk is cheap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites