What if it's found that Trump did help the Russians

[Sho Nuff 719]

 

You really are an idiot.

[wiffleball 4,645]

God, this thing gets worse every time I flipped by on the dial. Now we've got Mike's South Korean Airline companies and the guys who wanted to buy CNN all contributing like a total of 4 million dollars to this same nonsense and 2T? And here we have Michael Cohen at best is a subpar attorney. And suddenly now he's an expert on real estate and Commercial Ventures and Asian aircraft and entertainment law and blah blah blah

 

I mean, it literally gets worse by the minute. You think these guys would be better Liars. But this is just plain incompetent. This is some unabashed completely unhidden pay-for-play action going on.

[Mr. Hand 482]

No...i speak in facts not fabricated bs that you spew.

You have no grasp of reality

[IGotWorms 3,315]

A shell company that Michael D. Cohen used to pay hush money to a pornographic film actress received payments totaling more than $1 million from an American company linked to a Russian oligarch and several corporations with business before the Trump administration, according to documents and interviews.

 

Financial records reviewed by The New York Times show that Mr. Cohen, President Trumps personal lawyer and longtime fixer, used the shell company, Essential Consultants L.L.C., for an array of business activities that went far beyond what was publicly known. Transactions adding up to at least $4.4 million flowed through Essential Consultants starting shortly before Mr. Trump was elected president and continuing to this January, the records show.

 

Among the previously unreported transactions were payments last year of about $500,000 from Columbus Nova, an investment firm in New York whose biggest client is a company controlled by Viktor Vekselberg, the Russian oligarch. A lawyer for Columbus Nova, in a statement on Tuesday, described the money as a consulting fee that had nothing to do with Mr. Vekselberg.

Huh

[12th Man 884]

Huh

Shut up!

[SenatorRock 708]

So, trumps personal lawyer after Trump became president got half a million dollars, Putin length oligarch. Yeah, that's not shady.

 

No wonder they freaked out when cones office got raided.

 

Wiff is the very definition of low information voter. 99% of his posts are refuted within hours.

 

Bless his heart.

 

These people are so broken they are putting their hopes in the attorney of a women who sucks for a living and is proven to be making up on a weekly basis.

[Sho Nuff 719]

 

Wiff is the very definition of low information voter. 99% of his posts are refuted within hours.

 

Bless his heart.

 

These people are so broken they are putting their hopes in the attorney of a women who sucks ###### for a living and is proven to be making ###### up on a weekly basis.

You have never refuted anything.

 

And you are the lowest of the low information.

A completely ignorant troll.

[SenatorRock 708]

 

I thought he really posted that for a minute. Was about to say we were down to only one retard left on the board. Oops.

 

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

You have never refuted anything.

 

And you are the lowest of the low information.

A completely ignorant troll.

 

Says the last guy on the planet still believing in Russian/Trump collusion which is an investigation started by corrupt FBI/DOJ. All of those involved have been fired, demoted or resigned but he doesn't believe in that current investigation despite criminal referrals.

 

[wiffleball 4,645]

Remember how Trump said he's going to drain the swamp? Also, remember that lobbyists weren't welcome in his administration? And by the way, if you are a lobbyist you have to register your business and there are certain restrictions and regulations?

 

And yet, about 4 seconds after Trump becomes president, a giant Swiss Drug Company and a global telecommunications company started paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to trumps personal attorney. The guy who had an office right down the hall from Trump in his Tower. One of them even admitted paying Cohen for insights into the new Administration. AKA pay-to-play. AKA lobbying.

 

These kids didn't drain the swamp, they created a whole bunch of brand new ones!

[wiffleball 4,645]

 

Wiff is the very definition of low information voter. 99% of his posts are refuted within hours.

 

 

You want to try to back that up sport?

 

Especially after I made an ass out of you and your warmongering comment? How long did that take me, about 3 minutes?

 

Not that we didn't all know you were a friggin troll. But you still got to love this. He's wrong! About what? I don't know I just don't like what he's saying! It's wrong!

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Remember how Trump said he's going to drain the swamp? Also, remember that lobbyists weren't welcome in his administration? And by the way, if you are a lobbyist you have to register your business and there are certain restrictions and regulations?

 

And yet, about 4 seconds after Trump becomes president, a giant Swiss Drug Company and a global telecommunications company started paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to trumps personal attorney. The guy who had an office right down the hall from Trump in his Tower. One of them even admitted paying Cohen for insights into the new Administration. AKA pay-to-play. AKA lobbying.

 

These kids didn't drain the swamp, they created a whole bunch of brand new ones!

 

Links...........? Include where Cohen paid these monies to Trump as well or where Cohen provided access to Trump to these companies. You don't have that, do you?

 

Same oligarch..............Clinton ties.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/emails-show-clinton-ties-to-russian-oligarch-under-investigation/article/2601514

 

Perhaps Mueller can look into those direct ties to the Clintons.

[wiffleball 4,645]

But but what about???

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

But but what about???

 

So no links? Damn........at least put your hands up or run away.

[Sho Nuff 719]

But but what about???

Filthy trying to compare foundation donations to shell corps again?

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Filthy trying to compare foundation donations to shell corps again?

Five FBI field offices investigated what in regard to that Foundation?

[wiffleball 4,645]

Too funny. After AT&T first excuse didn't work damn if they didn't come back with a second one and then when they realize that one is just complete and utter horseshit that nobody would believe they finally admitted that yeah well we we were paying for access...

 

 

No schitt kids? You weren't paying Cohen for regulatory standards expertise as regards telecommunication protocols? LOL

[wiffleball 4,645]

Damn. Korean Aerospace Industries last year their VP killed himself one month, the CEO indicted the next month, and the next month? They send a hundred fifty Grand to Cohen.

 

Nothing Shady there.

[lickin_starfish 1,482]

Damn. Korean Aerospace Industries last year their VP killed himself one month, the CEO indicted the next month, and the next month? They send a hundred fifty Grand to Cohen.

 

Nothing Shady there.

Cohen should play it safe and smash his Blackberry.

[drobeski 3,061]

Damn. Korean Aerospace Industries last year their VP killed himself one month, the CEO indicted the next month, and the next month? They send a hundred fifty Grand to Cohen.

 

Nothing Shady there.

was his name Seth?

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

 

 

So the Russians Mueller indicted...............a couple showed up with lawyers ready to plead not guilty and wanting discovery of evidence against them. Mueller is objecting strenuously but the judge tells him no delay.

 

Focking clown show continues.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,587]

is this still a thing?

[Reality 2,710]

is this still a thing?

Not for normal folks, few stragglers here of course.

[Cdub100 3,382]

Hillary and Obama never thought in a million years Trump would win. All of this was to punish Trump and to show anyone else outside the Dem / Rep sphere to never challenge them again.

 

As we all know Trump won and has the resources to night only fight the deep state but destroy it.

[Sho Nuff 719]

Yep...they made it all up, forced Trump and his campaign to lie at every turn about every meeting...and then didnt use any information at all prior to the election.

 

[Mr. Hand 482]

Yep...they made it all up, forced Trump and his campaign to lie at every turn about every meeting...and then didnt use any information at all prior to the election.

Get a clue

[drobeski 3,061]

Yep...they made it all up, forced Trump and his campaign to lie at every turn about every meeting...and then didnt use any information at all prior to the election.

 

sad

[SenatorRock 708]

You want to try to back that up sport?

 

Especially after I made an ass out of you and your warmongering comment? How long did that take me, about 3 minutes?

 

Not that we didn't all know you were a friggin troll. But you still got to love this. He's wrong! About what? I don't know I just don't like what he's saying! It's wrong!

 

I must have missed that. I am sure it was compelling.

 

Stick to jokes about your daughter's birth control.

[SenatorRock 708]

 

What if it's found that Trump did help the Russians

 

 

 

After 2 years of spying by the FBI, CIA, and 5 Eyes, plus a year of investigating by Mueller and a team of lawyers, plus a year+ of investigating by contractors paid for by the Clinton campaign and DNC, what exactly has been discovered relating to the OP?

 

Serious question.

[Sho Nuff 719]

sad

Yes...the you all think is logical is very sad.

[Mr. Hand 482]

Yes...the ###### you all think is logical is very sad.

What’s wrong with you?

[lickin_starfish 1,482]

Collusion yet?

[Cdub100 3,382]

Collusion yet?

Dude that was so early 2017. It's obstruction now.... Oh wait that was late 2017. Sh1t... Oh Trump paid a porn star, wait nope that was April of 18. Oh that's right it's something to do with one of Trump's lawyers and he had some business deals or something.

[12th Man 884]

Yes...the ###### you all think is logical is very sad.

Just when I think you can't get any dumber....

[drobeski 3,061]

Yes...the ###### you all think is logical is very sad.

dude, dontcha think there's maybe just enough evidence out there that this may have been a ploy to go after a sitting president while at the same time pre-exonerating a criminal.

You've paid attention a little, haven't you ?

Or like many other hacks, you're ok with the weaponization of our fbi and intelligence departments to go after a political opponent ?

That happened, you cant deny it, but you're good with it right ?

Why ? Because trump dared to speak the truth?

 

You're a coward a hack and an un American scumbag, so is wiff and any scumbag who supports it. The worst of the worst.

You are why this county needed a trump

[12th Man 884]

dude, dontcha think there's maybe just enough evidence out there that this may have been a ploy to go after a sitting president while at the same time pre-exonerating a criminal.

You've paid attention a little, haven't you ?

Or like many other hacks, you're ok with the weapinization of our fbi and intelligence departments to go after a political opponent ?

That happened, you cant deny it, but you're good with it right ?

Why ? Because trump dared to speak the truth?

 

You're a coward a hack and an un American scumbag, so is wiff and any scumbag who supports it. The worst of the worst.

You are why this county needed a trump

Post of the year! Spot on!

[lickin_starfish 1,482]

You're a coward, a hack and an un American scumbag, so is wiff and any scumbag who supports it. The worst of the worst.

You are why this county needed a trump

Nailed it.

[drobeski 3,061]

Real, actual, factual, chronological investigative journalism news alert!!!

 

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/05/12/hindsight-revelations-devin-nunes-april-22nd-there-were-no-official-intelligence-channels-used-to-start-trump-investigation/#more-149185

 

 

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Hindsight Revelations Devin Nunes April 22nd: There Were No Official Intelligence Channels Used To Start Trump Investigation

Posted by sundance

Knowing what we know now how Stefan Halper (a foreign policy expert and Cambridge professor with connections to the CIA and its British counterpart, MI6), randomly reached out to contact Trump low-level campaign aide George Papadopoulos; and how that contact was likely part of a coordinated effort by political operatives within the U.S intelligence apparatus to start the counterintelligence operation against Trump; this prior interview with Chairman Devin Nunes is well worth re-watching.

 

About a month ago, April 22nd, 2018, Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee Devin Nunes appeared on Sunday Morning Futures with Maria Bartiromo to discuss the origin of the counterintelligence operation (July 2016) against the Trump campaign.

 

This interview follows a mid-April FBI release of some information about the original electronic communication (EC) documents that underpinned the origin of the FBI operation. The first half of the interview contains stunning information about how the raw intelligence product within the EC did not come through official intelligence channels.

 

The origin of the 2016 counterintelligence operation, which was specifically started by CIA Director John Brennan sharing his raw intelligence product with the FBI, was not an official product of the U.S. intelligence community. Brennan was NOT using official partnerships with intelligence agencies of our Five-Eyes partner nations; and he did not provide raw intelligence -as an outcome of those relationships- to the FBI.

 

 

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When we first watched this interview the initial questions were: if the EC is not based on official intelligence from U.S. intelligence apparatus or any of the five-eyes partners, then what is the origin, source and purpose therein, of the unofficial raw intelligence? Who created it? And why?

 

We now know the originating structure involved Stefan Halper the foreign policy expert and Cambridge professor deeply connected to the CIA and its

We must also remember CIA Director John Brennan gave congressional testimony last year where he explained how he delivered the raw intelligence product itself. We spotted several issues, and Brennans obfuscation, a year ago, when Brennan first gave his testimony.

 

On May 23rd, 2017, Former CIA Director John Brennan gave very specific testimony to congress where he noted he provided the raw intelligence to FBI Director Comey FULLSTOP. We now know Stefan Halper was part of the group assembling that raw intelligence. All of it was, as Nunes outlined, through unofficial channels.

 

Listen carefully to the opening statement from former CIA Director John Brennan May 23rd, 2017, during his testimony to congress. Pay very close attention to the segment at 13:35 of this video of Brennans testimony:

 

 

 

Brennan: [13:35] Third, through the so-called Gang-of-Eight process we kept congress apprised of these issues as we identified them.

 

Again, in consultation with the White House, I PERSONALLY briefed the full details of our understanding of Russian attempts to interfere in the election to congressional leadership; specifically: Senators Harry Reid, Mitch McConnell, Dianne Feinstein and Richard Burr; and to representatives Paul Ryan, Nancy Pelosi, Devin Nunes and Adam Schiff between 11th August and 6th September [2016], I provided the same briefing to each of the gang of eight members.

 

Given the highly sensitive nature of what was an active counter-intelligence case [that means the FBI], involving an ongoing Russian effort, to interfere in our presidential election, the full details of what we knew at the time were shared only with those members of congress; each of whom was accompanied by one senior staff member.

 

In the last paragraph of the testimony above Brennan is describing raw intelligence gathered prior to the Carter Page FISA Application/Warrant (October 21st, 2016).

 

In hindsight, and against the known facts from research, we can clearly identify two central motives surrounding why the intelligence apparatus needed the FISA warrant. First, the FBI and larger team of co-conspirators needed to have a retroactive legal basis for political surveillance that was happening long before the warrant was issued. Second, this was all part of an insurance policy to create the illusion of a Russian Conspiracy that would later be used -if needed- in an effort to eliminate President Trump.

 

The unlawful foundational FBI surveillance, which happened prior to October 2016, included the use of unauthorized FISA-702 queries of the NSA and FBI database for political opposition research by contractors. Again, much like the unofficial origin of the Stefan Halper raw intelligence that began the July 2016 counterintelligence op, the FISA(702) abuse was simply more unofficial use of the intelligence apparatus.

 

Once the FBI Counterintelligence operation began, it was the FBI (Comey) and ODNI (Clapper) generating intel reports, likely included in the Presidents Daily Briefing (PDB), as evidenced by Page and Strzok messages saying: POTUS wants to know what were doing.

 

The CIA provided the false raw intel, via Stefan Halper, to start the operation, and the FBI and DOJ-NSD (National Security Division) generated the raw monitoring intelligence from the characters identified by the CIA, FBI, DOJ-NSD and approved by FBI FISA-Title 1 warrant submissions.

 

The FBI were running the counter-intelligence operation and generating the actual reports that were eventually shared with the White House, Susan Rice and the Dept of Justice. Thats why all the unmasking requests. Those reports, or interpretations of the report content, were leaked to the media by political operatives in the IC (and specifically FBI) throughout the deployment of the insurance policy, by Lisa Page, Mike Kortan, James Baker and Peter Strzok with the guiding hand of Andy McCabe.

 

During the time James Comeys FBI was generating the intelligence reports, Comey admitted he intentionally never informed congressional oversight: because of the sensitivity of the matter.

 

In his congressional testimony John Brennan was smartly (and intentionally) positioning himself out of the picture from the perspective of the illegal acts within the entire process. ODNI James Clapper while rubbing his face and scratching his head had taken the same route earlier. That approach would leave James Comey, Andrew McCabe and the small group within the DOJ-NSD and FBI.

 

 

The CIA and DNI wanted all traceable fingerprints to be from DOJ and FBI. And thats exactly what happened. so far.

 

 

 

In his May 2017 testimony, Director Brennan goes on to say the main substance of those Gang of Eight briefings (2016) was the same as the main judgements of the January 2017 classified and unclassified Russian intelligence assessments published by the CIA, FBI, DNI and NSA (intelligence community).

 

The January reference was the infamous 17 agencies report, from CIA (Brennan), DNI (Clapper), FBI (Comey) and NSA (Rogers), all who had confidence -except Rogers- according to the report, that Russia was attempting to interfere in the 2016 election. The intelligence report was finished January 4, 2017, the day before the White House meeting with Comey, Brennan, Clapper, etc. and documented by Susan Rice.

 

A skeptic might think John Brennan is informing congress on one thing (Russian investigation), and James Comey due to his March 20th admissions (Trump counterintelligence investigation), is NOT INFORMING congress on another.

 

However, that angle of obfuscation is rebuked by Brennans own testimony that his specific intelligence product (CIA) was given to the FBI who were exclusively in charge of the counter-intelligence investigation.

 

What Brennan was doing in May 2017 was actually creating his defense, and positioning James Comey as the primary person who is to blame for any outcome therein.

 

However, the central risk of sunlight from revelations about Stefan Halper, cannot be assigned to James Comey hence the current severity of angst from John Brennan.

 

In May 2017, while this testimony was happening, deploying the insurance policy was still plausible but it was becoming less likely to succeed.

 

In May 2017 CIA Director John Brennan was making James Comey own the Counter-Intelligence Muh Russia claims about the Trump campaign. As a consequence, Brennan was trying to make Comey the fall-guy for a Robert Mueller investigative outcome in case everything fell apart and their deployment of the insurance policy failed.

 

Brennan knows theres no there there. However, the problem with Brennans approach is within Stefan Halper. Director James Comey used the raw intelligence provided to him by Brennan to start the investigation, but he did not originate it; Brennan did. Thats the risk to Brennan if Devin Nunes is successful in getting the information about Stefan Halper into the investigative psyche.

 

The entire construct of the Russian Investigation was the political use of manufactured intelligence, used to create an investigation in order to eliminate, President-Elect Trump or President Trump. This was their insurance policy.

 

 

 

However, there simply was no there there because theres no substantive evidence to support a Trump Campaign Collusion Narrative. Eventually, all avenues to prove the existence of something, that doesnt exist, hit a dead end.

 

Comey made a March 20th, 2017, admission to congress that the FBI intentionally kept congress in the dark during the construct of the counter-intel narrative.

 

Congress was kept in the dark during this phase because the narrative can only thrive with innuendo, rumor, gossip etc. The appearance of the investigation itself was the political need; the substance was non-existent and immaterial to the creation of the narrative.

 

If Comey notified congress, via the Gang of Eight oversight, the counter-intel narrative would have been harder to manufacture as details would have to be consistent; and people like Devin Nunes would know what was going on. That was the benefit to keeping any oversight away while creating the politically useful narrative.

 

In May 2017, CIA Director John Brennan, facing the underlying Russian collusion evidence being non-existent, was trying to give the appearance that he briefed congress on larger Russian election interference issues. However, the trouble for Brennan is his own admissions. He is saying it was his raw intelligence that underlay the principle for the FBI counter-intelligence investigation.

 

Brennan specifically says he gave his raw intelligence product to the FBI. That raw intelligence product is now under scrutiny (along with what the FBI did with it).

[Sho Nuff 719]

dude, dontcha think there's maybe just enough evidence out there that this may have been a ploy to go after a sitting president while at the same time pre-exonerating a criminal.

You've paid attention a little, haven't you ?

Or like many other hacks, you're ok with the weaponization of our fbi and intelligence departments to go after a political opponent ?

That happened, you cant deny it, but you're good with it right ?

Why ? Because trump dared to speak the truth?

 

You're a coward a hack and an un American scumbag, so is wiff and any scumbag who supports it. The worst of the worst.

You are why this county needed a trump

There is zero evidence to show itbwas to go after a sitting president.

The truth...he doesnt speak the truth...that you think he does shows what a hack and a focking moron you are.

 

Calling me unamerican is again illogical and idiotic.

[Sho Nuff 719]

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