12th Man 884 Posted May 13, 2018 Calling me unamerican is again illogical and idiotic. No it was actually spot fockin on! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vince44 205 Posted May 13, 2018 Calling someone unamerican is really unfair. Sho wants his country to win just like everyone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,001 Posted May 13, 2018 Calling someone unamerican is really unfair. Sho wants his country to win just like everyone else. Sure. He just thinks Mexicans are how you win. For some reason. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted May 13, 2018 Yep...they made it all up, forced Trump and his campaign to lie at every turn about every meeting...and then didnt use any information at all prior to the election. Please list all these meetings and I'll show you where a Clinton and/or Obama operative set it up. And there was no information passed to them; it was the promise of which that lead to the one meeting which was set up by Fusion GPS and DOJ/State Dept (getting Russian Lawyer permission to enter U.S.). Conversely Hillary/DNC/Obama paid Russians via Perkins Coie that NO ONE would publish until Clapper had Comey brief the incoming President to somehow validate it's credibility. Those are facts in black and white. There is zero evidence to show itbwas to go after a sitting president. Your wife kick you out and you've been living in a cave? The same FBI/DOJ you trusted that alleged Trump/Russian collusion is now investigating the weaponization of the I.C. against Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted May 13, 2018 Calling someone unamerican is really unfair. Sho wants his country to win just like everyone else. wrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted May 13, 2018 Calling someone unamerican is really unfair. Sho wants his country to win just like everyone else. Its not unfair...its just not try and the typical tripe of the cult following of Trump here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted May 13, 2018 One of the companies Mueller is charging didn't even exist at the time of the so called crime. Holy focking clown show. https://www.dailywire.com/news/30556/disaster-mueller-indicted-russian-company-didnt-ryan-saavedra?amp&__twitter_impression=true Mueller Indicted A Russian Company That Didn't Even Exist, Court Transcripts Say by RYAN SAAVEDRA May 12, 2018 This week, one of the Russian companies accused by Special Counsel Robert Mueller of funding a conspiracy to meddle in the 2016 U.S. presidential election was revealed in court to not have existed during the time period alleged by Mueller's team of prosecutors, according to a lawyer representing the defendant. U.S. Magistrate Judge G. Michael Harvey asked Eric Dubelier, one of two lawyers representing the accused Russian company, Concord Management and Consulting LLC, if he was representing a third company listed in Mueller's indictment. "What about Concord Catering?" Harvey asked Dubelier. "The government makes an allegation that there's some association. I don't mean for you to do you represent them, or not, today? And are we arraigning them as well?" "We're not," Dubelier responded. "And the reason for that, Your Honor, is I think we're dealing with a situation of the government having indicted the proverbial ham sandwich." "That company didn't exist as a legal entity during the time period alleged by the government," Dubelier continued. "If at some later time they show me that it did exist, we would probably represent them. But for purposes of today, no, we do not." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted May 13, 2018 Its not unfair...its just not try and the typical tripe of the cult following of Trump here. Supporting the most successful President in history is a cult? Cult of Patriotism and Common Sense perhaps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted May 13, 2018 https://www.scribd.com/document/378289370/US-v-Manafort-Full-Text-Transcript-Hearing-Motion-May-4-2018#from_embed Interesting read. Didn't see it posted here. Page 4 should have been front page news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12th Man 884 Posted May 13, 2018 Supporting the most successful President in history is a cult? Cult of Patriotism and Common Sense perhaps. Sign me up for that cult every day of the week and twice on Sunday. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12th Man 884 Posted May 13, 2018 Sho wants his country to win just like everyone else. Link? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted May 13, 2018 One of the companies Mueller is charging didn't even exist at the time of the so called crime. Holy focking clown show. https://www.dailywire.com/news/30556/disaster-mueller-indicted-russian-company-didnt-ryan-saavedra?amp&__twitter_impression=true Mueller Indicted A Russian Company That Didn't Even Exist, Court Transcripts Say by RYAN SAAVEDRA May 12, 2018 This week, one of the Russian companies accused by Special Counsel Robert Mueller of funding a conspiracy to meddle in the 2016 U.S. presidential election was revealed in court to not have existed during the time period alleged by Mueller's team of prosecutors, according to a lawyer representing the defendant. U.S. Magistrate Judge G. Michael Harvey asked Eric Dubelier, one of two lawyers representing the accused Russian company, Concord Management and Consulting LLC, if he was representing a third company listed in Mueller's indictment. "What about Concord Catering?" Harvey asked Dubelier. "The government makes an allegation that there's some association. I don't mean for you to do you represent them, or not, today? And are we arraigning them as well?" "We're not," Dubelier responded. "And the reason for that, Your Honor, is I think we're dealing with a situation of the government having indicted the proverbial ham sandwich." "That company didn't exist as a legal entity during the time period alleged by the government," Dubelier continued. "If at some later time they show me that it did exist, we would probably represent them. But for purposes of today, no, we do not." And there is proof they didnt exist ? You think Mueller just made up? Im guessing he has evidence to support his claim of their involvement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted May 13, 2018 And there is proof they didnt exist ? You think Mueller just made ###### up? Im guessing he has evidence to support his claim of their involvement. yes, hell he must have all the evidence since they've already indicted yet he requested a delay. Why would he need a delay ? He has everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted May 13, 2018 yes, hell he must have all the evidence since they've already indicted yet he requested a delay. Why would he need a delay ? He has everything. I dont know...Im not involved. Given all we know about his meticulous nature...and knowing it would go to court...to think he would make something up or overlook that isnoretty illogical. But I realize you will grasp at straws for anything you can against him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,912 Posted May 13, 2018 I dont know...Im not involved. Given all we know about his meticulous nature...and knowing it would go to court...to think he would make something up or overlook that isnoretty illogical. But I realize you will grasp at straws for anything you can against him. Holy pot meet kettle post!!!! Always funny when it goes against something you don't want to happen you hide behind well I'm not involved so I don't know. But by God if it's anything against Trump you are cacksure. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted May 13, 2018 Holy pot meet kettle post!!!! Always funny when it goes against something you don't want to happen you hide behind well I'm not involved so I don't know. But by God if it's anything against Trump you are cacksure. bots are bots. They think Mueller is meticulous because he still has nothing after 2 years. His existing indictments are even fizzling. He's an incompetent bully who is abusing his power. Like Comey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,912 Posted May 13, 2018 bots are bots. They think Mueller is meticulous because he still has nothing after 2 years. His existing indictments are even fizzling. He's an incompetent bully who is abusing his power. Like Comey. I had a liberal friend tell me compared to Nixon and Watergate this is nothing as far as time. My head almost exploded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted May 13, 2018 I dont know...Im not involved. Given all we know about his meticulous nature...and knowing it would go to court...to think he would make something up or overlook that isnoretty illogical. But I realize you will grasp at straws for anything you can against him. He rushed to have some indictment to show some fruit for his labor and the millions spent on this snipe hunt. Now he's trying to claim he needs more time to try the case but the judge is saying 'you indicted so you must have enough evidence to prove your case against those accused'. That's what's supposed to happen in the justice system. You don't bring charges until you can prove them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Hand 482 Posted May 13, 2018 He rushed to have some indictment to show some fruit for his labor and the millions spent on this snipe hunt. Now he's trying to claim he needs more time to try the case but the judge is saying 'you indicted so you must have enough evidence to prove your case against those accused'. That's what's supposed to happen in the justice system. You don't bring charges until you can prove them. Exactly! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Hand 482 Posted May 13, 2018 I dont know...Im not involved. Given all we know about his meticulous nature...and knowing it would go to court...to think he would make something up or overlook that isnoretty illogical. But I realize you will grasp at straws for anything you can against him. This is grasping at straws. You live in a fantasy world ands it’s messed up. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted May 13, 2018 Holy pot meet kettle post!!!! Always funny when it goes against something you don't want to happen you hide behind well I'm not involved so I don't know. But by God if it's anything against Trump you are cacksure. Its called logic...how would anyone know why Mueller asked for a delay? That has zero to do with other things I have said. So nice little straw man you are building. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted May 13, 2018 Its called logic...how would anyone know why Mueller asked for a delay? That has zero to do with other things I have said. So nice little straw man you are building. Why does a prosecutor seek to delay a trial? If he have the evidence he should be ready given the manpower he wields. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12th Man 884 Posted May 13, 2018 Its called logic...how would anyone know why Mueller asked for a delay? That has zero to do with other things I have said. So nice little straw man you are building. Please tell me this moron didnt just use the word logic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,276 Posted May 13, 2018 Please tell me this moron didnt just use the word logic? He did but I'm not sure he actually knows what that word means. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted May 13, 2018 bots are bots. They think Mueller is meticulous because he still has nothing after 2 years. His existing indictments are even fizzling. He's an incompetent bully who is abusing his power. Like Comey. First off...Mueller hasnt been doing it for two years...so you start out with a falsehood right away. Second...tockaim he has nothing thus far with the indictments already makes your statement false. Third...my opinion that he is meticulous is based on the body of work for his careeer and his reputation for being so. Fourth...calling him incompetent is downright laughable but expected from you. Postslike this show that you are projecting every time you call me a bot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted May 13, 2018 I had a liberal friend tell me compared to Nixon and Watergate this is nothing as far as time. My head almost exploded. Because facts bother you? Look historically at how long investigations like this take? We are in the early stages of Muellers work. Denying that shows you all just cant accept reality and facts very well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted May 13, 2018 The FBI planned on basing the whole investigation on the Steele dossier. That fell through and they had no backup. Bot's the last person on earth to realize this. Now Mueller's indictment of Manfort is crumbling. And no one cares anymore. Even the Sunday Morning talk show have moved on. Beating a dead horse. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted May 13, 2018 The FBI planned on basing the whole investigation on the Steele dossier. That fell through and they had no backup. Bot's the last person on earth to realize this. Now Mueller's indictment of Manfort is crumbling. And no one cares anymore. Even the Sunday Morning talk show have moved on. Beating a dead horse.A. Investigation started before the dossier.B. Dossier has not fallen apart..that is your biased opinion based on nothing factual. C. His indictment isnt crumbling at all...again, you base this in nothjng factual. Calling someone else bot...yet repeating the Trump lines is focking hilarious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,503 Posted May 13, 2018 A. Investigation started before the dossier. B. Dossier has not fallen apart..that is your biased opinion based on nothing factual. C. His indictment isnt crumbling at all...again, you base this in nothjng factual. Calling someone else bot...yet repeating the Trump lines is focking hilarious. What a fool. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted May 13, 2018 A. Investigation started before the dossier. B. Dossier has not fallen apart..that is your biased opinion based on nothing factual. C. His indictment isnt crumbling at all...again, you base this in nothjng factual. Calling someone else bot...yet repeating the Trump lines is focking hilarious. A. False Dossier commissioning started in April 2016...............FBI investigation started July 2016 B. False Dossier was never taken seriously which is why no one would publish it despite Fusion offering pay to them to do so. C. False Rebuked by Federal Judges and he can't bring Flynn to sentencing because Flynn was framed. He also can't try the Russians he charged because there's no concrete evidence it was them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted May 13, 2018 What a fool. As usual, you bring nothing to counter facts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,897 Posted May 13, 2018 And there is proof they didnt exist ? You think Mueller just made ###### up? Im guessing he has evidence to support his claim of their involvement. Sho Nuff is going with the "Guilty until proven innocent" approach when it comes to the investigation. Exactly the opposite of how he views the crimes of Hillary and Obama. Blind hatred caused by being on the losing side of the election. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted May 13, 2018 A. False Dossier commissioning started in April 2016...............FBI investigation started July 2016 B. False Dossier was never taken seriously which is why no one would publish it despite Fusion offering pay to them to do so. C. False Rebuked by Federal Judges and he can't bring Flynn to sentencing because Flynn was framed. He also can't try the Russians he charged because there's no concrete evidence it was them. As usual, you bring nothing to counter facts. Try unblocking those who get the better of you and the facts will be there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted May 13, 2018 Sho Nuff is going with the "Guilty until proven innocent" approach when it comes to the investigation. Exactly the opposite of how he views the crimes of Hillary and Obama. Blind hatred caused by being on the losing side of the election. As far as public opinion...given actual indictments against such people (and even Trump added them to his list of sanctioned...sources nice he balked in the congressional sanction.). Yes...Im going with I believe Mueller had evidence to support his indictment based off n his career and stellar reputation. Rather than believing a group of Russians are innocent and Mueller made it all up. What crimes of Obamas. There are nine...no evidence of any...no indictments to support any claim like that. Even Hillary has been investigated multiple times and nothing. If there is evidence on her...link claim her up. I dont give a rats ass. This has been said time and time again. Yet you all still use it as a crutch. Blind hatred is perfect for yournpost...because you are completely blind to what has happened and what has actually been said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,001 Posted May 13, 2018 Sho Nuff is going with the "Guilty until proven innocent" approach when it comes to the investigation. Exactly the opposite of how he views the crimes of Hillary and Obama. Blind hatred caused by being on the losing side of the election. And all those psych drugs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted May 13, 2018 What crimes of Obamas. There are nine... Even Hillary has been investigated multiple times and nothing. Nine?! To make sure we know about them all, please list them. Link to an actual investigation of Hillary? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,851 Posted May 13, 2018 Any.... Day... Now.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted May 13, 2018 https://www.westernjournal.com/the-russian-collusion-trial-is-on-and-mueller-may-be-the-first-casualty/ Mueller requested a delay for Wednesday’s hearing and claimed Concord had not been properly served notice. “Until the Court has an opportunity to determine if Concord was properly served, it would be inadvisable to conduct an initial appearance and arraignment at which important rights will be communicated and a plea entertained,” Mueller’s lawyers filed in federal court. But Concord opposed the motion. “The Special Counsel is not entitled to special rules and is required like the Attorney General to follow the rules of the Court,” Dubelier stated in his response to Mueller. U.S. District Court Judge Dabney Friedrich agreed with Concord and rejected Mueller’s request for a delay in the trial without comment, which led to Wednesday’s arraignment. Concord wants a “speedy trial” as provided by federal law, the company’s lawyers also repeated Wednesday. The case will resume July 9. Mueller's bluff was called, he tried pivoting saying he wasn't sure Concord was properly served. Concord reraised and the Judge flopped the nuts.............right on Mueller's forehead. No delay............case moving forward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,897 Posted May 13, 2018 https://www.westernjournal.com/the-russian-collusion-trial-is-on-and-mueller-may-be-the-first-casualty/ Mueller's bluff was called, he tried pivoting saying he wasn't sure Concord was properly served. Concord reraised and the Judge flopped the nuts.............right on Mueller's forehead. No delay............case moving forward. I bet it is to expose the Swamp's sham investigation so that it doesn't linger into the midterm elections. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted May 13, 2018 I bet it is to expose the Swamp's sham investigation so that it doesn't linger into the midterm elections. Trump appointed Rosenstein appoints Republican Mueller and its the swamps investigation? Oof...so much fail there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites