Las Vegas Conspiracy Theory Thread

[Djgb13 2,338]

Couple things not adding up right offhand. 1 is they say he used a 240 but didn't see a picture of one in the leaked photos of the guns he had. And 2 is that in a VEGAS CASINO hotel, where cameras are ABUNDANT, there doesn't seem to be a SINGLE videotape of him walking in or carrying any of this. That alone smells fishy to me. I'm not one for conspiracies but the lack of video evidence at a place like that is the part that's alarming

[drobeski 3,061]

He got room service for 2 the day before the incident. His chic was in the Philippines, who else was with him ?

[Jesus Chrysler 29]

 

Couple things not adding up right offhand. 1 is they say he used a 240 but didn't see a picture of one in the leaked photos of the guns he had. And 2 is that in a VEGAS CASINO hotel, where cameras are ABUNDANT, there doesn't seem to be a SINGLE videotape of him walking in or carrying any of this. That alone smells fishy to me. I'm not one for conspiracies but the lack of video evidence at a place like that is the part that's alarming

 Where did you read that the hotel has no video of him walking in with anything? I'm kind of assuming he had them inside luggage/duffle bags. And was there for four days. Two or three trips a day carrying a duffle bag in a hotel that busy isn't going to garner any attention.

[Djgb13 2,338]

  Where did you read that the hotel has no video of him walking in with anything? I'm kind of assuming he had them inside luggage/duffle bags. And was there for four days. Two or three trips a day carrying a duffle bag in a hotel that busy isn't going to garner any attention.

Where are these videos then? To be sure they would have shown them by now right? I haven't seen them. There's been no "we have video evidence of him in the casino carrying huge duffle bags". For a guy who "loved to gamble a lot" why was there no videos of him in a casino where he likes to gamble? He carried 800 pounds of ammo and guns up 30 stories (even in duffle bags it would be heavy and be a big duffle bag). He was able to remove an 800 pound hurricane proof window, set up a concealed sniper nest, disable fire alarms, set up cameras outside his room, then shoot almost continuously for 10 minutes with no training at all? Even trained professionals have a hard time firing for that long, that continuously WITH training. And with a 240 that is reported he used? I doubt that. Something is wrong with this picture.

[Jesus Chrysler 29]

 

Where are these videos then? To be sure they would have shown them by now right? I haven't seen them. There's been no "we have video evidence of him in the casino carrying huge duffle bags". For a guy who "loved to gamble a lot" why was there no videos of him in a casino where he likes to gamble? He carried 800 pounds of ammo and guns up 30 stories (even in duffle bags it would be heavy and be a big duffle bag). He was able to remove an 800 pound hurricane proof window, set up a concealed sniper nest, disable fire alarms, set up cameras outside his room, then shoot almost continuously for 10 minutes with no training at all? Even trained professionals have a hard time firing for that long, that continuously WITH training. And with a 240 that is reported he used? I doubt that. Something is wrong with this picture.

 I also saw a note on the table in the pics of the hotel room. They haven't released that to the public as far as I know. There's a ton of things that are discovered in an investigation that shlubs like you and I don't see.

[Djgb13 2,338]

  I also saw a note on the table in the pics of the hotel room. They haven't released that to the public as far as I know. There's a ton of things that are discovered in an investigation that shlubs like you and I don't see.

Once newbtard I see you just conveniently skipped over everything else. And if there were all the guns he used then where was the 240? Also, what about the rest I said! No room to stand on like always newbs. Keep on failing

[DankNuggs 305]

 

He got room service for 2 the day before the incident. His chic was in the Philippines, who else was with him ?

 

 

Maybe he was planning on hanging out in the room for a while and ordered multiple meals?

[Big Guy 1,400]

Has anyone else wondered....

 

Where is the security cam footage of him bringing in all the guns??

[Djgb13 2,338]

Has anyone else wondered....Where is the security cam footage of him bringing in all the guns??

Literally just said that. Also said how come no one noticed he was disabling the fire alarms or putting up security cameras outside his room?

[supermike80 1,286]

I wouldn't be surprised if these videos aren't being released yet. I would bet they are out there too.

[Drizzay 646]

Why would they release them immediately to the public?

[drobeski 3,061]

Why would they release them immediately to the public?

this

[Gladiators 1,904]

Why would they release them immediately to the public?

Agreed. But the videos should be released to the GC. We have important debates going on here that hinge on this evidence.

[Jesus Chrysler 29]

 

Literally just said that. Also said how come no one noticed he was disabling the fire alarms or putting up security cameras outside his room?

 He put a small camera on a service cart outside of his room. Like I'd clip to the top of my laptop. He didn't exactly hardwire the thing. And I didn't hear anything about him disabling fire alarms. If a civilian was able to disconnect any alarm without some kind of alarm or signal going off, that's a huge problem.

[Cdub100 3,381]

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[BudBro 117]

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[tanatastic 2,061]

So are we lookin at a Clinton foundation setup that targeted Trump supporters and is in bed with firearms companies (stocks rose)?

[Big Guy 1,400]

 

Agreed. But the videos should be released to the GC. We have important debates going on here that hinge on this evidence.

 

 

 

Unfortunately it takes days to counterfeit such footage.

[Big Guy 1,400]

16 Unanswered Questions....

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-04/16-unanswered-questions-about-las-vegas-shooting-mainstream-media-doesnt-want-talk-a

[Djgb13 2,338]

16 Unanswered Questions....http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-04/16-unanswered-questions-about-las-vegas-shooting-mainstream-media-doesnt-want-talk-a

This is exactly what I was trying to say. People aren't realizing the actual logistics that go into this. If the guy got THAT many guns and THAT much ammo up 30 floors without someone questioning "why is this guy coming and going with a big duffle bag full of stuff? It's empty when he comes down and full when he goes in". And also, military guys trained on weapons would have a hard time pulling off what this one 60 year old did with little to no training at all in a span of 5-10 minutes.

[parrot 789]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7DTjSla-O8

[Gladiators 1,904]

Wood

[DonS 3,067]

Wood

Indeed!

[drobeski 3,061]

Isn't it odd that the media and fbi declared this is not terrorism, yet also claim they don't know his motive.

How's that possible?

[Jesus Chrysler 29]

 

This is exactly what I was trying to say. People aren't realizing the actual logistics that go into this. If the guy got THAT many guns and THAT much ammo up 30 floors without someone questioning "why is this guy coming and going with a big duffle bag full of stuff? It's empty when he comes down and full when he goes in". And also, military guys trained on weapons would have a hard time pulling off what this one 60 year old did with little to no training at all in a span of 5-10 minutes.

 

If you make one trip every three hours amongst the hustle and bustle of thousands of others in the hotel over a four day span, you could easily go unnoticed. He could also be going down an elevator on the other end of the floor than the one he's taking stuff up in. This guy was very well thought-out.

And his guns were altered so that all he had to do was hold the trigger down. The bullets were just continuously flying out. No great feat of strength or endurance.

[Bier Meister 1,514]

lot of thought and effort for a random shooting

[mmmmm...beer 691]

Some of you fockers need to get to work.

[Djgb13 2,338]

  

If you make one trip every three hours amongst the hustle and bustle of thousands of others in the hotel over a four day span, you could easily go unnoticed. He could also be going down an elevator on the other end of the floor than the one he's taking stuff up in. This guy was very well thought-out.

And his guns were altered so that all he had to do was hold the trigger down. The bullets were just continuously flying out. No great feat of strength or endurance.

Obviously you've never fired a weapon before so you have no clue what it involves. Those guns and that ammunition is heavy. For a 60 year old firing that much with the precision to wound and kill that many in that short a time is hard. For professionals it's hard. So I highly doubt he is the only one here

[Jesus Chrysler 29]

 

Obviously you've never fired a weapon before so you have no clue what it involves. Those guns and that ammunition is heavy. For a 60 year old firing that much with the precision to wound and kill that many in that short a time is hard. For professionals it's hard. So I highly doubt he is the only one here

 Precision? He was 30 stories up shooting into a crowd of 23,000. It was like shooting fish in a barrel. There was no precision needed. And he had tripods. It seems like you know nothing at all about the event or what the guy had set up in his room. He squeezed a trigger and moved his gun from side to side on a tripod.

[Djgb13 2,338]

  Precision? He was 30 stories up shooting into a crowd of 23,000. It was like shooting fish in a barrel. There was no precision needed. And he had tripods. It seems like you know nothing at all about the event or what the guy had set up in his room. He squeezed a trigger and moved his gun from side to side on a tripod.

Obviously, (as I stated before) you have never fired a weapon much less an automatic weapon before. Regardless if it's in a tripod or not it still requires tremendous strength to hold still. That place is going to be FULL of smoke from the weapon pumping out those rounds. And those full auto guns jam quite often.

 

 

https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02-lone-gunman-theory-of-las-vegas-shooter-is-complete-nonsense-stephen-paddock.html

 

Here a little more perspective for you from people even more familiar with it than me.

[Big Guy 1,400]

 

This is exactly what I was trying to say. People aren't realizing the actual logistics that go into this. If the guy got THAT many guns and THAT much ammo up 30 floors without someone questioning "why is this guy coming and going with a big duffle bag full of stuff? It's empty when he comes down and full when he goes in". And also, military guys trained on weapons would have a hard time pulling off what this one 60 year old did with little to no training at all in a span of 5-10 minutes.

 

 

no doubt

[Djgb13 2,338]

  

 

no doubt

Thing is, I call BS on ALOT of conspiracies just cause I really don't believe in most of them. For something to actually get me to question is says something cause I always dismiss conspiracy theories as a load of crap. So for this one to make me stop and think says a lot about the stuff that keeps coming out (or NOT coming out) and adding up

[Big Guy 1,400]

I'm hearing testimonies from a few eyewitnesses that are claiming to hear at least 2 guns with different sounds / patterns firing at the same time.

[tanatastic 2,061]

Obviously, (as I stated before) you have never fired a weapon much less an automatic weapon before. Regardless if it's in a tripod or not it still requires tremendous strength to hold still. That place is going to be FULL of smoke from the weapon pumping out those rounds. And those full auto guns jam quite often.

 

 

https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02-lone-gunman-theory-of-las-vegas-shooter-is-complete-nonsense-stephen-paddock.html

 

Here a little more perspective for you from people even more familiar with it than me.

This is a great article, it really shows the difference between the Movie style story we got and reality. Some geezer shoots a weapon like that its gonna rattle him around like a rag doll. Was he wearing protective hearing device? Pretty sure thats gonna be loud, even deafening. Muzzle flash would be intense yet theres none in that main video. The smoke from that weapon would be intense as well. Lets not even mention the dozens of witnesses and even ex military attending the concert who are certain there were multiple sources of gunfire and at multiple levels. The whole thing just falls apart under even moderate scrutiny.

[Djgb13 2,338]

This is a great article, it really shows the difference between the Movie style story we got and reality. Some geezer shoots a weapon like that its gonna rattle him around like a rag doll. Was he wearing protective hearing device? Pretty sure thats gonna be loud, even deafening. Muzzle flash would be intense yet theres none in that main video. The smoke from that weapon would be intense as well. Lets not even mention the dozens of witnesses and even ex military attending the concert who are certain there were multiple sources of gunfire and at multiple levels. The whole thing just falls apart under even moderate scrutiny.

Which is what made me start to question it. The logistics we are being told just doesn't add him. Most people here have never fired a weapon before much less a full auto. There have no clue the kind of kickback, man power, precision, expertise, etc that goes with firing one of those. They think some random 60 year old guy who hasn't had any training can go all Rambo on people like it's an every day occurrence when in fact it's not

[Jesus Chrysler 29]

 

This is a great article, it really shows the difference between the Movie style story we got and reality. Some geezer shoots a weapon like that its gonna rattle him around like a rag doll. Was he wearing protective hearing device? Pretty sure thats gonna be loud, even deafening. Muzzle flash would be intense yet theres none in that main video. The smoke from that weapon would be intense as well. Lets not even mention the dozens of witnesses and even ex military attending the concert who are certain there were multiple sources of gunfire and at multiple levels. The whole thing just falls apart under even moderate scrutiny.

  No one ever claimed the guy never shot before. You people are acting like Betty White was up there doing the shooting. He was 64. Not 84. And an experienced shooter. Shooting fully automatic weapons off of a tripod. Nothing falls apart. You guys just desperately want it to.

[Djgb13 2,338]

   No one ever claimed the guy never shot before. You people are acting like Betty White was up there doing the shooting. He was 64. Not 84. And an experienced shooter. Shooting fully automatic weapons off of a tripod. Nothing falls apart. You guys just desperately want it to.

This idiot doesn't seem to want to believe people who ACTUALLY have done this before. As I've said before, you can't argue with stupid

[Mike Honcho 4,035]

Couple things not adding up right offhand. 1 is they say he used a 240 but didn't see a picture of one in the leaked photos of the guns he had. And 2 is that in a VEGAS CASINO hotel, where cameras are ABUNDANT, there doesn't seem to be a SINGLE videotape of him walking in or carrying any of this. That alone smells fishy to me. I'm not one for conspiracies but the lack of video evidence at a place like that is the part that's alarming

Let's say there are abundant camera's in a Vegas/Casino hotel. How many of them do you expect to be recording? How long does the casino/hotel keep those recordings? I could see keeping recordings of the gaming floor for a period of time, but the check-in, lobby? Video storage, even compressed, starts taking up a lot server space really quickly. I'd be more surprised if there were video of him walking in...guess we'll see...

[Jesus Chrysler 29]

 

This idiot doesn't seem to want to believe people who ACTUALLY have done this before. As I've said before, you can't argue with stupid

  And some idiots are desperate to call everything a hoax. You're trying too hard. Relax and let them investigate. You're going to die young with all your anger.

[Bier Meister 1,514]

 

Let's say there are abundant camera's in a Vegas/Casino hotel. How many of them do you expect to be recording? How long does the casino/hotel keep those recordings? I could see keeping recordings of the gaming floor for a period of time, but the check-in, lobby? Video storage, even compressed, starts taking up a lot server space really quickly. I'd be more surprised if there were video of him walking in...guess we'll see...

 

 

there were very few areas not covered in the hotels where i have worked. we typically kept recordings for about 3 months or so.