Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 31, 2018 Don't you know what an ad hom is? Yes...like when you directed a post at me...not in any actual position I have taken. Your post was the very definition of an ad hom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 31, 2018 Thought this was supposed to be immediately after? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted January 31, 2018 Thought this was supposed to be immediately after? Link? Why ruin the good attention he'll get from this? He'll probably release it tomorrow or Friday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorRock 708 Posted January 31, 2018 Thought this was supposed to be immediately after? I guess that was more Fake News from CNN. Don't worry though, Trump said it is 100% going to be released: Makes sense to let the GOAT SOTU simmer for a news cycle first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted January 31, 2018 If this Memo and related FISA abuses are truly just the tip of the iceberg (as reported by Sara Carter), what the hell is coming next? Does this go way beyond spying on a Presidential Candidate? Treason, peddling state secrets, insider trading, etc? https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LI9pMdaG_Ac/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEZCPYBEIoBSFXyq4qpAwsIARUAAIhCGAFwAQ==&rs=AOn4CLBmUdLWOV2Vpu_4YbT40DcFCxZB2w Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12th Man 884 Posted January 31, 2018 If this Memo and related FISA abuses are truly just the tip of the iceberg (as reported by Sara Carter), what the hell is coming next? Does this go way beyond spying on a Presidential Candidate? Treason, peddling state secrets, insider trading, etc? https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LI9pMdaG_Ac/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEZCPYBEIoBSFXyq4qpAwsIARUAAIhCGAFwAQ==&rs=AOn4CLBmUdLWOV2Vpu_4YbT40DcFCxZB2w Sara Carter doing God's work. I fear for her safety. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted January 31, 2018 Yes...like when you directed a post at me...not in any actual position I have taken. Your post was the very definition of an ad hom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12th Man 884 Posted January 31, 2018 He has no clue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted January 31, 2018 Sara Carter doing God's work. I fear for her safety. The pieces are in motion now so she and anyone reporting their misdeeds are safe. I truly believe a large portion of them have had their teeth pulled so to speak. Why has the organized resist movement pretty much stopped? McCain's muzzled....Hillary/Obama resigned to a tweet here and there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 31, 2018 You should be embarrassed... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted January 31, 2018 You should be embarrassed... Ok. You go with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12th Man 884 Posted January 31, 2018 You should be embarrassed... Some dumb bald guy telling someone else he should be embarrassed 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Hand 482 Posted January 31, 2018 Sho is so damn clueless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 31, 2018 Since you all love "sources"... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-31/trump-says-100-percent-after-he-s-asked-to-release-gop-memo Seems its possible (see there is skepticism of unnamed single sources) that the FBI director thinks there are inaccuracies (not 2 unnamed FBI people...but the director chosen by Trump) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 31, 2018 Since you all love "sources"... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-31/trump-says-100-percent-after-he-s-asked-to-release-gop-memo Seems its possible (see there is skepticism of unnamed single sources) that the FBI director thinks there are inaccuracies (not 2 unnamed FBI people...but the director chosen by Trump) plenty of inaccuracies in the steele dossier yet it was good enough to use for a fisa warrant. Suddenly inaccuracies matter ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 31, 2018 plenty of inaccuracies in the steele dossier yet it was good enough to use for a fisa warrant. Suddenly inaccuracies matter ? It wasn't used for a FISA warrant. It was possibly used as a part of justification for renewal of a warrant. This seems to be what the whole memo is about. Complaining that the dossier by a reputable source, was being used as partial justification to renew a warrant on a shady character who has proven to be as shady as everyone thought. Seriously...Carter Page is dirty as fock...surveillance on him had been going on long before the dossier was ever a thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 31, 2018 It wasn't used for a FISA warrant. It was possibly used as a part of justification for renewal of a warrant. This seems to be what the whole memo is about. Complaining that the dossier by a reputable source, was being used as partial justification to renew a warrant on a shady character who has proven to be as shady as everyone thought. Seriously...Carter Page is dirty as fock...surveillance on him had been going on long before the dossier was ever a thing. we'll find out when they release the memo.The hack only labed "reputable source" was paid by the dnc and Hillary for opposition research. Credibility flew out the window a long time ago on that one kid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 31, 2018 we'll find out when they release the memo. We'll find out what Nunes thinks if they release it...and how much of it they release (which seems to be the issue now with lawyers talking it over). Id also bet there is weighing in now on what helps them more...releasing it...or just talking about it (because if Wray is really saying what the reports are claiming...that won't be good for Nunes or Trump) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorRock 708 Posted January 31, 2018 Train carrying GOP members from DC to retreat in VA derailed after crashing into garbage truck on tracks. No injuries. No brakes. Nice try deep state/dems/Antifa. You can't stop America. Good will prevail. ETA: 1 fatality so far. you deep state/dems/antifa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorRock 708 Posted January 31, 2018 Since you all love "sources"... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-31/trump-says-100-percent-after-he-s-asked-to-release-gop-memo Seems its possible (see there is skepticism of unnamed single sources) that the FBI director thinks there are inaccuracies (not 2 unnamed FBI people...but the director chosen by Trump) That is the exact opposite of what was said. FBI said there were no inaccuracies. That Bloomberg article doesn't even quote Wray saying there are inaccuracies. The writer just throws it in their on their own no quotes, no sources. You people are really dumb. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 31, 2018 That is the exact opposite of what was said. FBI said there were no inaccuracies. That Bloomberg article doesn't even quote Wray saying there are inaccuracies. The writer just throws it in their on their own no quotes, no sources. You people are really dumb. A. Opposite according to who? 2 unnamed FBI people...per an unnamed source to FoxNews. B. Now you have an unnamed source stating what Wray said to the White House...on a source Bloomberg. C. You of course believe A...because you want to. Of course...you also believe the deep state tried to derail a train. You aren't well in the head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 31, 2018 Train carrying GOP members from DC to retreat in VA derailed after crashing into garbage truck on tracks. No injuries. No brakes. Nice try deep state/dems/Antifa. You can't stop America. Good will prevail. ETA: 1 fatality so far. ###### you deep state/dems/antifa. here we go Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kanil 521 Posted January 31, 2018 I guess that was more Fake News from CNN. Don't worry though, Trump said it is 100% going to be released: Makes sense to let the GOAT SOTU simmer for a news cycle first. Holy ... that guy he's talking to is a focking giant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,711 Posted January 31, 2018 So wait...you want me to prove a negative? A. Are yiu that dumb? B. When someone makes an assertion...especially that many times...its uo to them to prove the assertion when called out. He is a liar...you know it...he knows it....everyone knows it...but you wont admit it and neither will he. Why would being a dirty guy having hookers pee on each other matter? The issue will be that confirming this...will basically show the accuracy of the dossier. Much of which has already been corroborated. We are down to the pee pee stuff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,626 Posted January 31, 2018 Wtf is a fisa memo and why do I care? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 31, 2018 Wtf is a fisa memo and why do I care?it is proof that the Obama administration weaponized the fbi and intelligence departments in order to attempt to destroy the President HTH 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,007 Posted January 31, 2018 Wtf is a fisa memo and why do I care?Just go away Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted January 31, 2018 Is McCabe still fired? Yes?.....Okay then we'll assume the memo is accurate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,626 Posted January 31, 2018 Just go away Ok,I will not post anymore in this thread. You win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted January 31, 2018 White House chief of staff John Kelly, in a wide-ranging interview with Fox News Radio, said the California teacher who has made headlines for bashing the military in a profane classroom rant should go to hell while also vowing that the classified memo that Republicans say reveals shocking government surveillance abuses will soon be made public. Political appointee version of Grandslam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 31, 2018 Looks like Bloombergs source was better than Fox. https://twitter.com/katiebowill/status/958754904461512704 Official FBI statement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,127 Posted January 31, 2018 Looks like Bloombergs source was better than Fox. https://twitter.com/katiebowill/status/958754904461512704 Official FBI statement. So, the memo is factually correct but, the FBI is worried about other facts that were omitted... Noted, feel free to provide all details. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 31, 2018 What are they so afraid of ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 31, 2018 So, the memo is factually correct but, the FBI is worried about other facts that were omitted... Noted, feel free to provide all details. Grave omission that impact its accuracy.Nice spin. Speculation....the meme claims non verified information (dossier) was used in renewal of a FISA warrant. While technically accurate...omitting that it was only a part of the process and not justification for it...as well as it being an ongoing surveillance of Page...will paint this horribly wrong. For people like you and the other nuts to run with and Claim Obama is dirty and the FBI and this Mueller investigation cant be trusted. Cover as its released for Trump to fire Rosenstein...Wraybto step down...and Trump install cronies who will fire Mueller. That appears to be the playbook. Meanwhile another Ethics chair has already stepped down and is walking away (Gowdy) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 31, 2018 What are they so afraid of ?Nunes lies and spin impacting multiple investigations.Why is it the DOJ, FBI, and Trumps own lawyers are against it? Im sure they are all deep state guys...despite many of them being Trumps guys (like Wray and Rosenstein). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 31, 2018 Better question drobeski...if Trump is so innocent..whybhas he been doing all he can to hinder or halt the investigation short of removing Mueller? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 31, 2018 Grave omission that impact its accuracy. Nice spin. Speculation....the meme claims non verified information (dossier) was used in renewal of a FISA warrant. While technically accurate...omitting that it was only a part of the process and not justification for it...as well as it being an ongoing surveillance of Page...will paint this horribly wrong. For people like you and the other nuts to run with and Claim Obama is dirty and the FBI and this Mueller investigation cant be trusted. Cover as its released for Trump to fire Rosenstein...Wraybto step down...and Trump install cronies who will fire Mueller. That appears to be the playbook. Meanwhile another Ethics chair has already stepped down and is walking away (Gowdy) unverified political opposition research should not be used as a tool to spy on Americans, ever. Agree ?Gowdy will be replacing Sessions, Rosenstien or the IG. There's going to be a lot of tribunals that he will need to oversee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,127 Posted January 31, 2018 Grave omission that impact its accuracy. Nice spin. Speculation....the meme claims non verified information (dossier) was used in renewal of a FISA warrant. While technically accurate...omitting that it was only a part of the process and not justification for it...as well as it being an ongoing surveillance of Page...will paint this horribly wrong. For people like you and the other nuts to run with and Claim Obama is dirty and the FBI and this Mueller investigation cant be trusted. Cover as its released for Trump to fire Rosenstein...Wraybto step down...and Trump install cronies who will fire Mueller. That appears to be the playbook. Meanwhile another Ethics chair has already stepped down and is walking away (Gowdy) All these attacks.. Good Lord dude, take a breath. I'm asking for this process to be transparent as possible. There is obviously some serious issues with this entire thing. I am shocked that you are against transparency. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 31, 2018 Better question drobeski...if Trump is so innocent..whybhas he been doing all he can to hinder or halt the investigation short of removing Mueller?ahhhh following CNNs fake breaking news I see. Horse schit as usual. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 31, 2018 unverified political opposition research should not be used as a tool to spy on Americans, ever. Agree ? Gowdy will be replacing Sessions, Rosenstien or the IG. There's going to be a lot of tribunals that he will need to oversee. It wasnt. It appears it was a small part of the reasoning used to renew surveillance in a known foreign agent.Gowdy May end up he bench in NC. Releasing AG or deep AG or the IG? Doubtful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
