Release the FISA memo

[SenatorRock 708]

Th first was a real source containing the actual FBI statement and you called it fake news. The Bloomberg source was real as well. Unlike the Fox piece that you salivated over.

You were proven wrong...again.

Its the official FBI statement...Wray is the director. Nice try to spin this.

 

Im a few pages in to the House committee transcript in the vote...thus far Nunes is coming off really bad and Schiff showing he is a patriot.

 

As I predicted this wont be a good look for you or your deep state conspiracy nuts.

Not a single one of those quoted anybody.

 

Congrats on reeling everyone in to your distraction of the day though. I fell for it.

 

Still going to jail.

 

Still going to lose.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Not a single one of those quoted anybody.

 

Congrats on reeling everyone in to your distraction of the day though. I fell for it.

 

Still going to jail.

 

Still going to lose.

So...you need a Wray quote and wont accept the official FBI statement...the Bureau he is the director of?

 

Yeah...you have to be complete parody schtick.

 

You were exposed again believing in the lies of FoxNews...all of you.

Run along now..

[SenatorRock 708]

Ok thanks for taking a look. I did ask for takes and you gave your POV. I appreciate it.

Well what do you think?

 

Do you think it was a boiler plate CYA statement, how I took it?

 

Or do you think it means Strzok all of a sudden decided that he was going to be "hard" on Hillary after changing Comey's statement in June to let her off the hook?

 

Or that Strzok is really just an all American hero who was impartially doing his job and serving his country the entire time?

 

D. Something else?

[SenatorRock 708]

Ok same question for you - if McCabe is under investigation by the IG for stalling the Abedin email review why isn't FF's claim that the FBI NYFO delayed transfer of the data a huge problem in terms of political influence?

My understanding is that Comey/McCabe were leading the email investigation, therefore their responsibility to retrieve evidence from NY office and review.

 

If Comey/McCabe wanted the laptop they could get within hours.

 

Why did it take weeks?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,579]

So where is this thing?

[Sho Nuff 720]

Do I need to give you another try Max?

 

A. Please tell us and show where my post yiubare quoting is a lie.

B. On your secret Nd claim...please show where I believe any conspiracy of my liberal masters including where I have ever link to msnbc or believed in the golden showers thing?

 

This is multiple times now you have made the false claims of msnbc and the golden shower thing. Youve been asked before to back up your claim and you failed.

 

At this point you are doing nothing but spreading lies about me here to troll. Back up your claims or just go away Max. You offer nothing to this board or any board you have been on.

Bump for Max...come on...put up or shut up Max.

[wiffleball 4,797]

This is interesting. The actual root faiza documentation? Not the cherry-picked summary, but the actual Source material? Was only viewed by Nunes staff, Schiff, and Trey Gowdy.

 

Announcement is made today that the memo is going to be released contrary to the FBI and doj wishes and warnings

 

Trey Gowdy very quickly and very unexpectedly announces his retirement..

 

That's not nothing. And that's not a coincidence.

[Cdub100 3,996]

This is interesting. The actual root faiza documentation? Not the cherry-picked summary, but the actual Source material? Was only viewed by Nunes staff, Schiff, and Trey Gowdy.

 

Announcement is made today that the memo is going to be released contrary to the FBI and doj wishes and warnings

 

Trey Gowdy very quickly and very unexpectedly announces his retirement..

 

That's not nothing. And that's not a coincidence.

He isn't retiring he's going back to the criminal justice area. He's probably making a play for a SCOTUS appointment

[wiffleball 4,797]

He isn't retiring he's going back to the criminal justice area. He's probably making a play for a SCOTUS appointment

Just decided today?

[Sho Nuff 720]

https://twitter.com/repadamschiff/status/958897790469464064

Nunes edited things before presenting to the White House?

As Ive said...the man is not trustworthy.

[SenatorRock 708]

Trump has broken the left so bad they are shilling for the FBI and praising the integrity of the institution. And defending illegal spying on American citizens.

 

LOL

[SenatorRock 708]

https://twitter.com/repadamschiff/status/958897790469464064

Nunes edited things before presenting to the White House?

As Ive said...the man is not trustworthy.

 

I didn't see his angry tweet about the FBI going to the WH today and editing the memo after the Committee released it. Funny if he is trying to blame those changes on Nunes.

 

What a idiot.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Trump has broken the left so bad they are shilling for the FBI and praising the integrity of the institution. And defending illegal spying on American citizens.

 

LOL

How do you explain Nunes actions?

The FBI statement about his memo...when the director is Trumps Guy?

[SaintsInDome2006 748]

My understanding is that Comey/McCabe were leading the email investigation, therefore their responsibility to retrieve evidence from NY office and review.

 

If Comey/McCabe wanted the laptop they could get within hours.

 

Why did it take weeks?

 

Sorry, are you saying the FBI NYC field office was acting appropriately and that they didn't hold evidence or delay its review? Because I'm inclined to agree with you. I don't view our law enforcement guys as going around playing politics like that. Now it doesn't mean I think it can't happen or it didn't but I'll await a report on that as I haven't seen it. However note FF just said something quite different.

 

As for McCabe/Comey during that period in October 2016 - yeah actually that is a mystery. I would actually like to get an official report on that and supposedly the IG, per reports, is doing just that. I'm willing to await the IG report on that and I will hang my hat on it.

 

But personally I don't know. IIRC once they popped the emails it did not take a long at all to size up the contents.

[SaintsInDome2006 748]

Well what do you think?

 

Do you think it was a boiler plate CYA statement, how I took it?

 

Or do you think it means Strzok all of a sudden decided that he was going to be "hard" on Hillary after changing Comey's statement in June to let her off the hook?

 

Or that Strzok is really just an all American hero who was impartially doing his job and serving his country the entire time?

 

D. Something else?

 

I'll go with D. - First of all if Strzok takes a hit for having his fingerprints on the changes in the memo exonerating Hillary then he should get credit for having his prints on the email reopening the investigation into her. Secondly IMO actually I think at the FBI that stuff is done collaboratively anyway. As I understand it no one person can affect an investigation with bias. That's how the system is set up. So before a guy like Strzok even touches the keyboard the decision he is typing about has actually been made already by DOJ lawyers and he and his team together. So I'm willing to apply his bias in both situations - for and against Hillary - or say there was no bias possible in the first place in either situation.

 

Like I said just further up though, if the IG finds otherwise I'll accept that. I support that investigation.

[SenatorRock 708]

How do you explain Nunes actions?

The FBI statement about his memo...when the director is Trumps Guy?

Wray never made those statement.

 

Nunes has done everything by the book.

 

FBI statement was by people scared shitless of what is coming.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Wray never made those statement.

 

Nunes has done everything by the book.

 

FBI statement was by people scared shitless of what is coming.

Why do you keep trying to point it as Wray didnt say it. He is the director of the FBI. The FBI put out an official statement. It doesnt matter of it didnt come out of Wrays mouth...of he didnt approve of or agree with the statement...it wouldnt be put out by the FBI. Yiubare spinning here and you know it.

 

By the books? It appears he edited the memo that was voted on prior to presenting to the White House...if they were material changes (as Schiff alleges) that may very well be criminal.

 

You and your Fox article you salivated over were proven wrong.

 

Its ok to admit the obvious.

[SenatorRock 708]

 

Sorry, are you saying the FBI NYC field office was acting appropriately and that they didn't hold evidence or delay its review? Because I'm inclined to agree with you. I don't view our law enforcement guys as going around playing politics like that. Now it doesn't mean I think it can't happen or it didn't but I'll await a report on that as I haven't seen it. However note FF just said something quite different.

 

 

I am just saying that if the Director (Comey) or #2 (McCabe) wanted anything in the country that office would have it in their hands ASAP. The people at the top dictate what and when things happen. As for who was stalling and why I suppose there are theories for both sides.

 

McCabe, then the second-ranking official at the FBI, "appeared not to act for about three weeks" when some of those emails were requested for examination, the Post reported, citing an undisclosed number of sources familiar with the matter.

 

According to the Post, the decision in late October 2016 came about three weeks after FBI leadership was alerted to the finding of the emails on Weiner's laptop. The inspector general has sought to find out whether McCabe or anyone else at the FBI wanted to avoid moving forward on examining the Weiner emails until after Election Day, the report said.

 

-from CNN article about a WaPo article about the IG investigation, lol.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/30/politics/inspector-general-mccabe-weiner/index.html

 

-"citing an undisclosed number of sources familiar with the matter" lol

[SaintsInDome2006 748]

 

I am just saying that if the Director (Comey) or #2 (McCabe) wanted anything in the country that office would have it in their hands ASAP. The people at the top dictate what and when things happen. As for who was stalling and why I suppose there are theories for both sides.

 

-from CNN article about a WaPo article about the IG investigation, lol.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/30/politics/inspector-general-mccabe-weiner/index.html

 

-"citing an undisclosed number of sources familiar with the matter" lol

 

I'm inclined to agree with you. However again that's why I directed the question at FF, who claimed that NYFO held the data to put pressure on Comey.

[wiffleball 4,797]

This is interesting. The actual root faiza documentation? Not the cherry-picked summary, but the actual Source material? Was only viewed by Nunes staff, Schiff, and Trey Gowdy.

 

Announcement is made today that the memo is going to be released contrary to the FBI and doj wishes and warnings

 

Trey Gowdy very quickly and very unexpectedly announces his retirement..

 

That's not nothing. And that's not a coincidence.

So, Gowdy suddenly retiring before the memo is released by the White House. And now the only other guy other than Nunez? Schiff is saying that Nunez edited the memo before giving it to the White House. So nobody actually voted on what went to the White House?

 

And it's enough to get Gowdy to suddenly retire and shift to jump ship?

 

Jesus, this is just Shady AF.

[drobeski 3,061]

Class time for the scared schitless hacks.

 

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/02/01/today-should-be-memo-release-day/#more-145317

 

In a last minute effort to block the executive approvals, Minority Chair of the House Intelligence Committee, Adam Schiff, claimed last night there were changes to the legislative work product.

 

Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes shared with Adam Schiff some minor edits to the drafted memo that resulted from the executive branch (FBI Director Wray) making a request upon initial review:

 

 

 

Counting on people not to know the FBI is part of the executive branch, Schiff claimed, wrongly, that any changes made the initial work product contrary to that which was approved for submission by the House Intelligence Committee.

 

A desperate attempt to stop the declassification by the White House, as quickly pointed out by Chairman Nunes:

 

 

In the back-and-forth it becomes evident why we stated last week to pay attention to the process. The memo is classified legislative work product of the legislative branch. The legislative branch is asking the executive branch to declassify the memo. When Devin Nunes invited FBI Director Christopher Wray to review the memo on Sunday night he was inviting the executive branch to preview the work-product prior to submission.

 

It would be ordinary for any minor executive-branch-requested adjustments to be made, prior to submission/approval for executive declassification. Thats exactly what happened.

 

Minor adjustments were made at the request of the FBI Director prior to submission for declassification approval. Majority Chairman Devin Nunes shared those adjustments with Minority Chair Adam Schiff.

 

Schiff tried, and failed, to make a political issue out of a simple process.

 

Additionally, Minority Chair Adam Schiff, along with most corporate media, are trying to present the intelligence community (DOJ/FBI) as a fourth branch of government. As silly as it sounds, former DNI James Clapper attempted the same argument on Wednesday night during a CNN appearance. Theyre not. All of the intelligence community resides under the executive branch and the Chief Executive is President Donald Trump.

 

The normal review for any declassification request is a review by the National Security Council, the Office of Legal Counsel (all depts); all impacted cabinet officials; all heads of potentially impacted national security departments (DOJ-NSD, FBI Counterintelligence, NSA, CIA, State, DoD etc.); along with the White House Chief-of-Staff (General Kelly).

 

That review complete, its now up to the Chief Executive, President Trump, to sign off and release. This is the formal process, and this is the process that has been followed.

 

As much as the formal and appropriate process annoys Representative Adam Schiff, all of the correct procedures have been followed. Additionally, the memo itself is not the biggest benefit to exposing the corruption. The real goal will be reviewing the underlying documents and evidence that support the memo. Thats phase two:

 

 

 

Beyond the obvious reasons, the political reason Adam Schiff is annoyed is that his party leadership is intent on selling a false narrative that President Trump is undermining the institutions of the Intelligence Community. If people accurately review events against the backdrop of factual structures of government: Legislative Branch, Judicial Branch, Executive Branch, the claims by Democrats toward undermining institutions fall flat.

 

A desire by the President to address needed structural reform resulting from revealed corruption within the Justice Department is no different than the desire by the President to reform a corrupt Veterans Affairs department. Same/Same. Both fall under the authority of the executive; both agency officials capable of gross misconduct.

 

The Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI), Devin Nunes, (by position) is directly responsible to conduct oversight on the intelligence apparatus within the national security departments as they relate to potential FISA and FISC abuses. As a Gang of Eight member, that specific aspect of oversight falls to the HPSCI Chairman.

 

The person directly above the HPSCI chairman in this regard is the Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan. Devin Nunes has followed the correct procedure for notifying the chain-of-command of a violation based on his oversight findings. Paul Ryan was notified.

 

Once the issue of intelligence abuse is identified via committee review, and with the House Speaker informed of the committee findings, the next step is to inform the head of the Executive Branch, thats President Trump.

 

Now that President Trump has been notified of abuses within the intelligence apparatus, directly under the supervision of the executive, President Trump is compelled to take action to resolve those abuses. In the matter of this specific FISA-702 abuse, solely as an outcome of the specific DOJ/FBI conduct, the office responsible for dealing with the misconduct is also the office victimized by the misconduct.

 

Thus we see the historic nature of corruption within what has taken place. The intelligence apparatus of the United States Justice Department, via the DOJ and FBI was weaponized against the person running to hold executive authority over the United States Justice Department; and the misuse of the offices within the DOJ and FBI continued after the election as the same officials sought to eliminate the person who holds ultimate accountability and authority over them.

 

The U.S. corporate media has been working overtime trying to cloud this structural reality by attempting to create, out of loincloth, some non-existent separation of authority between the Office of the President and the U.S. Justice Department.

 

The Executive Branch did not create the DOJ or FBI, the Legislative Branch did. However, when the legislative branch created those entities they placed them directly under the Executive Branch. President Trump is the Chief Executive and he can reform any agency under his executive authority. Period.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,007]

Liberals need to start accepting the possibility, no, probability that at the behest of HRC and Obama, the FBI/DOJ used our national security apparatus to spy on a political opponent. This is the issue at its core. All the rest is just bees buzzing.

[drobeski 3,061]

Freedom day is upon us.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Conservative Treehouse sides with Nunes again? Shocking.

Will you admit when they are wrong? Like they were with the FBI reaction when theyboartited the bogus FoxNews article about no innacuracies?

Doubtful

[drobeski 3,061]

Conservative Treehouse sides with Nunes again? Shocking.

Will you admit when they are wrong? Like they were with the FBI reaction when theyboartited the bogus FoxNews article about no innacuracies?

Doubtful

they side with facts and only facts, you cant and wont dispute any of them, never have never do.

Its over clown, enjoy the egg face salad.

[12th Man 884]

they side with facts and only facts, you cant and wont dispute any of them, never have never do.

Its over clown, enjoy the egg face salad.

At least we know clearly who hatesAmerica and freedom.

[Sho Nuff 720]

they side with facts and only facts, you cant and wont dispute any of them, never have never do.

Its over clown, enjoy the egg face salad.

I have done it in the past and you ignored it...I have this week when they parroted the Fox bs that 2 unnamed fbi sources were claiming no inaccuracies in this Memo. which I disputed with what Wray had apparently said which was backed up by the official FBI statement.

 

They now appear to be taking nothing but Nunes statement and presenting that as if its proof.

Given the history again...Nunes vs Schifff....its more likely that Nunes is not being truthful.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

To be specific - you're arguing this happened and also that it's a good thing?

 

Isn't this the sort of thing you're claiming Strzok & Co. did?

 

The point of withholding it from Comey was to ensure SOME actual investigation was going to take place instead of exonerating her BEFORE you focking interview them even though Comey says he wasn't sure if Hillary would lie during her interview.

 

To be specific, are you saying trying to get Comey/McCabe/Strzok to actually investigate and prosecute a criminal is bad?

[Mr. Hand 482]

I havdont in the past and you ignored it...I have no his week when theyboartited the Fox bs that 2 unnamed fbibwere claiming for inaccuracies in this Memo

English please

[12th Man 884]

I havdont in the past and you ignored it...I have no his week when theyboartited the Fox bs that 2 unnamed fbibwere

WTF language is this? Lay off the Xanax before posting.

[drobeski 3,061]

I havdont in the past and you ignored it...I have no his week when theyboartited the Fox bs that 2 unnamed fbibwere claiming for inaccuracies in this Memo. which I disputed with what Wray had apparently said which was backed up by the official FBI statement.

 

They now appear to be taking nothing but Nunes statement and presenting that as if its proof.

Given the history again...Nunes vs Schifff....its more likely that Nunes is not being truthful.

you're defending criminals, sicko rotten criminals.

[Sho Nuff 720]

you're defending criminals, sicko rotten criminals.

No...Im defending Schiff. Not a criminal.

You are defending Nunes and Trump...what Nunes did in making changes (if Schiff is right) is possibly a criminal act.

What Trump is being investigated for is a criminal act.

Yiuball are going nuts over a FISA memo alleging things as the FBI surveillance Carter Oage who has been under investigation for being a foreign agent since 2013(before Trump)

 

I have defended no actual criminal.

 

You are incorrect...youre source has been shown to be suspect at best.

 

I showed that with the FBI stuff (which I see you again ignore in order to make this bogus claim)

[drobeski 3,061]

No...Im defending Schiff. Not a criminal.

You are defending Nunes and Trump...what Nunes did in making changes (if Schiff is right) is possibly a criminal act.

What Trump is being investigated for is a criminal act.

Yiuball are going nuts over a FISA memo alleging things as the FBI surveillance Carter Oage who has been under investigation for being a foreign agent since 2013(before Trump)

 

I have defended no actual criminal.

 

You are incorrect...youre source has been shown to be suspect at best.

 

I showed that with the FBI stuff (which I see you again ignore in order to make this bogus claim)

when this shakes down, all of it, we'll get to see who's what. Schiff isn't fighting the release so fervently because he's a good guy.

[Sho Nuff 720]

when this shakes down, all of it, we'll get to see who's what. Schiff isn't fighting the release so fervently because he's a good guy.

And Nunes isnt pushing this because he is a good guy.

I believe Schiff is a good guy based on his history of service. Nunes history isnt as nice.

Why are trumps own guys against the release? His DOJ, his FBI choice?

When this all shakes down...better odds that Nunes gets busted than Schiff

[12th Man 884]

And Nunes isnt pushing this because he is a good guy.

I believe Schiff is a good guy based on his history of service. Nunes history isnt as nice.

Why are trumps own guys against the release? His DOJ, his FBI choice?

Think about how much family time you burn here. Think about how much money you could have made instead of posting here 24/7. Glad you didn't miss this place and you don't post as much.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

 

At the end Clapper caught lying by denying the was FISA warrant on Trump Tower.

 

This is same guy who had the 17 agencies, strike that.....3 agencies, strike that.....4 handpicked people write the Russian Election Hacking report.

 

Lock his a$$ up too.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,007]

 

At the end Clapper caught lying by denying the was FISA warrant on Trump Tower.

 

This is same guy who had the 17 agencies, strike that.....3 agencies, strike that.....4 handpicked people write the Russian Election Hacking report.

 

Lock his a$$ up too.

Hell yeah. Him and Brennan. Brennan wil probably seek sanctuary in a Mosque.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

 

I'm inclined to agree with you. However again that's why I directed the question at FF, who claimed that NYFO held the data to put pressure on Comey.

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEVxSpMXNaWooAOHlx.9w4;_ylu=X3oDMTEyaDltcDBqBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwM4BHZ0aWQDQjQ1ODRfMQRzZWMDc3I-/RV=2/RE=1517527594/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2ftruepundit.com%2finsurance-policy-fbis-mccabe-and-strzok-concealed-damaging-hillary-clinton-evidence-for-weeks-just-before-the-election%2f/RK=2/RS=YvUTC8HpcmMrxuW.G_4btERr51g-

 

I may have that wrong based on what we know now. NYFO of FBI WERE the ones who found the new emails on Weiner's laptop. How long they had it before advising superiors I don't know. They did notify Strzok and McCabe who then sat on the info for over two weeks without issuing a warrant.

 

This is where a possible quid pro quo comes into play. During this time Peter Strzok's wife, Melissa Hodgeman just happens to land her SEC job.

 

After two weeks of McCabe and Strzok sitting on new evidence without acting, someone brings it up in a meeting with DOJ/FBI top brass. The motive for sitting on that evidence seems clear......run out the clock until after the election.

 

The assertion that Strzok supported reopening the investigation skmply isn't true.

[lickin_starfish 2,027]

WTF language is this? Lay off the Xanax before posting.

I think he's having a Strzoke.

[drobeski 3,061]

 

At the end Clapper caught lying by denying the was FISA warrant on Trump Tower.

 

This is same guy who had the 17 agencies, strike that.....3 agencies, strike that.....4 handpicked people write the Russian Election Hacking report.

 

Lock his a$$ up too.

gitmo bound