kilroy69 1,027 Posted July 8, 2018 I have never tried it before. I think this is going to be the year I do it. After looking at my last 3 years picks at rb and where they finished I want to get better value from the spot I am using on the rb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snatchit 108 Posted July 8, 2018 if you did, you would be zigging when everyone is zagging Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,027 Posted July 8, 2018 if you did, you would be zigging when everyone is zagging have you used it? Stg every year I consider it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,924 Posted July 8, 2018 Ive never done it and dont plan to anytime soon. It can work but I prefer to just take who I think is the best player in the first few rounds. Sometimes I prefer WRs since I usually only do PPR and Ill start with 3 WRs but thats about as far as I go. I like to get at least 1 RB in the first 4 rounds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snatchit 108 Posted July 8, 2018 I wouldnt do it, after about the top 10 RB's there are only rookies and RBBC options Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snatchit 108 Posted July 8, 2018 I wouldnt do it, after about the top 10 RB's there are only rookies and RBBC options  I might go RB,RB,RB this year. I love the mid round WR's 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snatchit 108 Posted July 8, 2018  I might go RB,RB,RB this year. I love the mid round WR's  in my ppr flex Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kujerry 9 Posted July 8, 2018  I might go RB,RB,RB this year. I love the mid round WR's   I was thinking the same thing... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike FF Today 611 Posted July 8, 2018 Mike Davis wrote a nice piece on this topic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpenceToons 70 Posted July 8, 2018 I have never tried it before. I think this is going to be the year I do it. After looking at my last 3 years picks at rb and where they finished I want to get better value from the spot I am using on the rb. Â Who are you planning on drafting in the later rounds to carry the load for you at RB ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,886 Posted July 8, 2018 When others were doing zero RB over the last fews years I cleaned up in almost every league I played in by going heavy RB. Not winning every league but either winning or going deep in the playoffs each year in every league. I will continue going heavy RB even though the times are changing back seemingly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Cubs 134 Posted July 8, 2018 Its your team you can do what ever you want with it. If you think this is the year to go zero rb then go for. Â I personally had the best luck not necessarily with zero rb, but with drafting a more wr oriented team early. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 405 Posted July 8, 2018 With the resurgence of young RBs and the parity among WRs, I don't think this is the season to go this route Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,516 Posted July 9, 2018 Would ageee, I think there are a lot of good talent later in the draft at the wr postion then rb. Â I wouldnt go no rb early three rounds or so, but I do agree with Hawkeye about taking. The best available. Â I think WRs postion is easier too fill later then Rbs. Â Great question. Â Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,958 Posted July 9, 2018 Hasn't been a good idea the last few years. Outside of the elite, of which there are few, teams employ a committee approach at WR. If more than one, maybe two teams have done zero RB in your lequge the last few years your league isn't very good. Zero RB was viable 2008-2014. It's time has passed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brutal Brutus 182 Posted July 9, 2018 While I was looking at the championship match ups posted from last year I remember the two things that were very prevalent and almost a requisite were stud RBs and a top 5 TE. I wouldn't be surprised if I had 3 RBs and a TE before I had a WR. Maybe even 4 RBs depending on how the draft falls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 603 Posted July 9, 2018 that might actually be a good thing. Â what I have noticed about the zero RB strategy is that it can work if you are the only one doing it. But for each other person in your draft running the same strategy your chances of winning drop fairly substantially. Â granted I have a small number of drafts I have seen this. Â I ran the 0 RB strategy when it first came on the Scene and nobody believed in it. I won my draft. the next year 3 people in that same draft utilized the strategy and they all crashed and burned. ironically I was not one of them. I was going to use the strategy a second time, but a top RB fell to me at the bottom of the first round and I abandoned the strategy (to a very good result) Â in other drafts I've seen drafts where one guy used the strategy and it worked well enough where I'd consider it to be a viable strategy. Â overall, my feeling is that the strategy can work if you are the only one using it in your league. for me, that is the sweet spot. Â it is worth noting that this strategy is not by itself a recipe for success. You still need to draft well and I truly do not feel any strategy out there can make up for poor preparation and drafting. Â so the fact you are zigging when the world is zagging might be a good thing. Â if you see that nobody is taking RB's in round 1 you may wish to abandon the strategy and load up on RB's at that point. Â Just my opinion. Â Â Â Â Â Â if you did, you would be zigging when everyone is zagging 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted July 9, 2018 Good point. If you are the only guy running it it might work. Youre left with the top two WRs. You kinda have to land them or youre in trouble. Â Id say you have to land Antonio Brown to even bother. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,516 Posted July 9, 2018 Great point Kent.  If you can’t get Brown in the first why bother. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted July 9, 2018 Brown seems like hes crucial. Hes consistent like an RB. You land him and then youve got decisions to make. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 405 Posted July 9, 2018 I believe it's very dependent on getting a top 3 QB as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flgatorguy87 160 Posted July 9, 2018 I did it last year. I was lucky and ended up with Kareem Hunt drafting the day before he was promoted/pumped as a starter, and I didn't really hit on the WR's that I took either. I came out of last year basically with the theory to zig when others zag because at the end of the day any strategy will work if you hit the right players. If I would've hit on the WR's then I would've dominated even more than I did with mediocre WR play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 603 Posted July 9, 2018 I did it last year. I was lucky and ended up with Kareem Hunt drafting the day before he was promoted/pumped as a starter, and I didn't really hit on the WR's that I took either. I came out of last year basically with the theory to zig when others zag because at the end of the day any strategy will work if you hit the right players. If I would've hit on the WR's then I would've dominated even more than I did with mediocre WR play. Bingo. Â my general policy is to not go into the draft with a specific strategy in mind. Â The order of the picks rarely goes the way you think it will. That's where mocks can be useful. you can participate in a few mocks, and in the end, ask yourself... Â how did things go down when lots of WR's went early? Â how did things go down when lots of RB's went early? Â how did things go down when lots of QB's went early? (if applicable. this may not be realistic depending on your league rules) Â then you can formulate general strategies for each scenario. Â sometimes you will naturally fall into one of these scenarios early just based on who gets drafted ahead of you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,886 Posted July 10, 2018 Zero RB gives you zero RB production 80% of the time. That's why you will find 7 or 8 of the first 10 picks being RB this year. People who did zero RB the last few years got hurt by it. That's what I saw anyway... Â People finally learned not to grab QBs early, and now have learned not to go zero RB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 603 Posted July 10, 2018 the problem with the zero RB strategy is it is a niche strategy. Â if you have 2 or 3 people in a 10 or 12 team league running the strategy, they have close to a zero chance of success (in my opinion) Â if you are the only one doing it, you have a chance, but you still need to nail your picks and grab undervalued running backs starting in round 3 or 4. Â but if more than one person in a league run that strategy, it looks a lot tougher to get that job done. Â because this was a hot strategy for a couple of years, there have been multiple people running it and having no success. Â I definitely think this is a strategy to hold in your back pocket. Â I would never go into a draft planning to use it. but if you draft late in round 1 and everyone is taking RB's early, you never want to be picking position players at the end of a run, so if no RBs fall to you, an option is to take a WR in round 1 and again in round 2 on the flip because great WR's are available. Â in that scenario, you fall into the strategy by picking what you feel are the better value picks. Â at that point it helps to be aware of the zero RB strategy. you can run with it or tweak it to fit your own needs and based on what is happening at the draft table. Â but I'd suggest you should never go into a draft thinking this is the strategy this year, because it rarely works out the way you think. Â Bottom line: there are scenarios at the draft table where this strategy can work. but you watch what other teams are doing and adjust your strategy on the fly. Â if a bunch of top WR's and/or QB go early, the zero RB strategy will backfire on you. You need to be aware of this if trying to use this strategy. Â Â Zero RB gives you zero RB production 80% of the time. That's why you will find 7 or 8 of the first 10 picks being RB this year. People who did zero RB the last few years got hurt by it. That's what I saw anyway...People finally learned not to grab QBs early, and now have learned not to go zero RB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,203 Posted July 12, 2018 I just ran through a couple of mock drafts on the fantasy pro's draft wizard and ended up with these teams (both picking out of the 9th slot)... Â QB - Russell Wilson, SEA (5) RB - Jerick McKinnon, SF (4) RB - Kenyan Drake, MIA (6) WR - Odell Beckham Jr., NYG (1) WR - A.J. Green, CIN (2) WR - Marquise Goodwin, SF (7) TE - Rob Gronkowski, NE (3) DST - Philadelphia Eagles, PHI (14) K - Chris Boswell, PIT (15) BN - Dion Lewis, TEN (8) BN - Royce Freeman, DEN (9) BN - Rishard Matthews, TEN (10) BN - Theo Riddick, DET (11) BN - Matt Breida, SF (12) BN - Dede Westbrook, JAC (13) ============================= QB - Russell Wilson, SEA (5) RB - Alex Collins, BAL (4) RB - Dion Lewis, TEN (6) WR - Odell Beckham Jr., NYG (1) WR - A.J. Green, CIN (2) WR - Larry Fitzgerald, ARI (3) TE - Jordan Reed, WAS (9) DST - Houston Texans, HOU (14) K - Dan Bailey, DAL (15) BN - Jamison Crowder, WAS (7) BN - Derrius Guice, WAS (8) BN - Marlon Mack, IND (10) BN - George Kittle, SF (11) BN - James White, NE (12) BN - Mohamed Sanu, ATL (13) Â Are they possible? Don't know. I didn't check ADP's, but there you have it. Zero RB through first 3 rounds. This was a simulator though, not real people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,886 Posted July 12, 2018 I don't think McKinnon lasts until round 4. I actually heard some guys complaining that they thought he was going too high in their drafts, which was 2nd round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,203 Posted July 12, 2018 I don't think McKinnon lasts until round 4. I actually heard some guys complaining that they thought he was going too high in their drafts, which was 2nd round. Â I agree. When going through the draft, I was rather surprised by the player availability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brutal Brutus 182 Posted July 12, 2018 I feel like McKinnon is a cult classic this year. Most people think he's fine and worth a fairly early round pick, but there's always one person that has him rated way higher than others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,203 Posted July 12, 2018 Here's one I did live on ESPN 9 DeAndre Hopkins 16 Michael Thomas 33 Josh Gordon 40 Joe Mixon 57 Carson Wentz 64 Dion Lewis 81 Tevin Coleman 88 D'Onta Foreman 105 Nick Chubb 112 Kenny Golladay 129 Charles Clay 136 Martavis Bryant 153 Latavius Murray 160 Texans D/ST 177 Matt Bryant 184 Mitchell Trubisky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,516 Posted July 12, 2018 I agree with Kent, if you can’t get A Brown in the first why bother.  I would rather go rb.  Thanks.  Now can you post some drafts TB going rb just too compare. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,203 Posted July 12, 2018 These 3 guys went RB/RB Â 8 Leonard Fournette RB 17 Christian McCaffrey RB 32 Doug Baldwin WR 41 Alshon Jeffery WR 56 Duke Johnson Jr. RB 65 Chris Hogan WR 80 Jimmy Graham TE 89 Chris Thompson RB 104 Josh Doctson WR 113 Rishard Matthews WR 128 Philip Rivers QB 137 Anthony Miller WR 152 Alex Smith QB 161 Ravens D/ST 176 Jared Goff QB 185 Robbie Gould K Â Â 11 Melvin Gordon RB 14 Dalvin Cook RB 35 Demaryius Thomas WR 38 Golden Tate WR 59 Emmanuel Sanders WR 62 Tom Brady QB 83 Jordan Reed TE 86 Kelvin Benjamin WR 107 Ty Montgomery RB 110 Kenny Stills WR 131 Tyler Lockett WR 134 Cameron Meredith WR 155 Chris Carson RB 158 Matt Breida RB 179 Saints D/ST D/ST 182 Chris Boswell K Â Â Â 7 Saquon Barkley RB 18 Devonta Freeman RB 31 Stefon Diggs WR 42 Amari Cooper WR 55 Mark Ingram RB 66 Delanie Walker TE 79 Randall Cobb WR 90 Kyle Rudolph TE 103 Kirk Cousins QB 114 Matthew Stafford QB 127 Tyler Eifert TE 138 Christian Kirk WR 151 C.J. Anderson RB 162 Donte Moncrief WR 175 Panthers D/ST 186 Jake Elliott K Â Â This guy went WR/WR, then followed up with 3 RB's. Â 12 Julio Jones WR 13 Odell Beckham Jr. WR 36 Marshawn Lynch RB 37 Jay Ajayi RB 60 Kerryon Johnson RB 61 Devin Funchess WR 84 DeVante Parker WR 85 Robby Anderson WR 108 Trey Burton TE 109 Marqise Lee WR 132 Patrick Mahomes QB 133 Michael Gallup WR 156 Nyheim Hines RB 157 Vikings D/ST 180 Wil Lutz K 181 Austin Seferian-Jenkins TE Â Â Lastly, this guy did something a bit unique. Â 6 Alvin Kamara RB 19 Rob Gronkowski TE 30 Jordan Howard RB 43 JuJu Smith-Schuster WR 54 Marvin Jones Jr. WR 67 Michael Crabtree WR 78 Deshaun Watson QB 91 Jamison Crowder WR 102 Isaiah Crowell RB 115 Carlos Hyde RB 126 Allen Hurns WR 139 Jaguars D/ST 150 Jordan Wilkins RB 163 Stephen Gostkowski K 174 Dak Prescott QB 187 Ted Ginn Jr. WR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,516 Posted July 12, 2018 Like the person with the 11th pick. Â Good team. Â Thanks TB always a pleasure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,661 Posted July 12, 2018 yep going Dalvin and Gordon and getting my top bounce back WR in DT (who was still top 20 in whats considered a terrible year) is an awesome start Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,886 Posted July 12, 2018 sleeper: 3rd stringer miami rb. good luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,583 Posted July 13, 2018 Any draft method can work if you pick the right guys. Â This stuff is 90% luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,886 Posted July 13, 2018 This stuff is 90% luck. ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brutal Brutus 182 Posted July 13, 2018 60% of the time it works everytime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites