drobeski 3,061 Posted December 28, 2018 I think a wall is great, its a great start, but without the additional backing support, they will find a way why would there not be additional backing support ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted December 28, 2018 Also let's stop giving any south American nation any aid at all and fund the wall with the funds used for that federal aide. Thus equaling them paying for it. Win win Bam! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,878 Posted December 28, 2018 Trump hatred redardation is dwarfed by Trump love delusion. I know you're joking with this. Trump retardation is way more prevalent. Exhibit A Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted December 28, 2018 I know you're joking with this. Trump retardation is way more prevalent. he is one of them, he also has the intellect of an 8 year old, and makes minimum wage. Consider the source and it makes it easier to see the reason for their idiocy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,162 Posted December 28, 2018 Glad Shiny and Drobs are here to set us straight on Trump Love Delusion. I wonder where Filthy, HT and sderk stand on this issue? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted December 28, 2018 Glad Shiny and Drobs are here to set us straight on Trump Love Delusion. I wonder where Filthy, HT and sderk stand on this issue?that thread you made about him not visiting the troops was awesomeDid you hear he signed MAGA hats too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted December 28, 2018 I know you're joking with this. Trump retardation is way more prevalent. Exhibit A It shifts daily and is subjective. As someone who doesnt give a flip either way and has no political affiliation (lol @Drobs, couldnt get a clue if he played the board game, I play him like a fiddle on the weekly), I see both sides all the time. Its endless entertainment, I want the wall to get built just for more storylines and drama. The TDS side is prob more numerous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,162 Posted December 28, 2018 that thread you made about him not visiting the troops was awesome Did you hear he signed MAGA hats too It was an awesome thread. The Trump Love Delusion tards were triggered immediately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted December 28, 2018 This is a point often times overlooked or simply dismissed as "jobs that Americans won't do." As long as there are jobs waiting for them here that arent available there, they will be motivated to get here. If we went after the employers hiring these people, we would cut off the problem at its source. A wall doesnt change their desire to get here. It just forces a good number of them to do it differently. The problem with this whole issue is we all want our cake and we want to eat it also. The obvious example is we are fine with the home builder making their 18% gross profit margin as long as the house only costs us $200k. But we wouldnt be ok with the builder making their same 18% if their labor costs went way up and the same house cost us $300k. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,259 Posted December 28, 2018 Some wall is fine. Some drones and patrols are good. I still think the best method is fine/jail business owners that hire illegals. I've advocated going after businesses for years. It was part of the Amnesty Reagan signed in 1986. Unfortunately, the government never did it so the illegals got amnesty and the U.S. people got screwed by their own government, as usual. Hence why a lot of people opposed to illegal immigration refuse to budge on border enforcement before granting another amnesty. But there's no reason we can't go after businesses AND secure our border, is there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,788 Posted December 28, 2018 Honest question, what stopping a dozen Mexicans from jumping in a boat around baja or wherever and simply sailing North until they see an empty Beach? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted December 28, 2018 Glad Shiny and Drobs are here to set us straight on Trump Love Delusion. I wonder where Filthy, HT and sderk stand on this issue? https://imgur.com/gallery/c22GCFY I've already weighed in. Had you not been raging about Trump perhaps you would have read my post(s). TDS encompasses 93% of the media's reporting. Several of you here have become so deranged that you sound like little b!tches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted December 29, 2018 Earlier when I said impeachment Chance was around 30-40 I was being generous. Oddsmakers have it closer to 56% chance now. Dont shoot the messenger, just tellin you the facts. Never seen a more hated or controversial person in power. Just glad Im alive to see this all unfold, its classic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,278 Posted December 29, 2018 Never seen a more hated or controversial person in power. Hitler? Jerry Jones? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted December 29, 2018 Never seen a more hated or controversial person in power. Just glad Im alive to see this all unfold, its classic.You also have never seen a conservative president follow 8 years of obama. obama's identity politics were destroying this country from inside out.And 50% of this country was glad to see it unfolding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted December 29, 2018 You also have never seen a conservative president follow 8 years of obama. obama's identity politics were destroying this country from inside out. And 50% of this country was glad to see it unfolding. He didnt win the popular vote. Dont forget that. Not to mention all of the chumps that didnt vote and those who voted for neither of the 2 idiots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted December 29, 2018 You also have never seen a conservative president follow 8 years of obama. obama's identity politics were destroying this country from inside out. And 50% of this country was glad to see it unfolding. There was a big demand for something different for sure. I feel lik society has just changed to where there will always be outspoken opinions now. If someone else gets elected there will be a lot of the same extremism. It may not be just a Trump thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted December 29, 2018 He didnt win the popular vote. Dont forget that. Not to mention all of the chumps that didnt vote and those who voted for neither of the 2 idiots. Why do I have to "not forget that"? That has no bearing on a presidential election. I don't really care who hate's who unless they act like what the dems are acting like these days. Just stirring up garbage because they didn't win. They should just start working on their next candidate. And if they keep bringing in people like Cortez, God help the left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted December 29, 2018 He didnt win the popular vote. So no voter fraud occurred? One does not find what one doesn't look for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted December 29, 2018 So no voter fraud occurred? One does not find what one doesn't look for. Making claims without any proof? Sounds like Russian Collusion stories. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted December 29, 2018 Why do I have to "not forget that"? That has no bearing on a presidential election. I don't really care who hate's who unless they act like what the dems are acting like these days. Just stirring up garbage because they didn't win. They should just start working on their next candidate. And if they keep bringing in people like Cortez, God help the left. You said 50% of the people wanted it. That isnt true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted December 29, 2018 You said 50% of the people wanted it. That isnt true.Truth is a four letter word to the Trumpeteers. Its fluid and flexible. Its what they want it to be even if its grossly and blatantly the other way, they will see what spins positive for them. Which is like 1 network out of 50, 1 source out of 100. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted December 29, 2018 Making claims without any proof? Sounds like Russian Collusion stories. In states where the data was actually permitted to be viewed, there was evidence and some prosecutions. We saw that fraud being committed in at least one county of Florida in 2018. Now imagine what's going on in states where no one is permitted to look. California, New York, etc............Why would anyone have an issue letting that information be viewed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,162 Posted December 29, 2018 Truth is a four letter word to the Trumpeteers. Its fluid and flexible. Its what they want it to be even if its grossly and blatantly the other way, they will see what spins positive for them. Which is like 1 network out of 50, 1 source out of 100. All of those networks have been assimilated by the Deep State. Same with the Weekly Standard, the National Review, Military Times and any random Fox correspondent who gently differs with the Orange Messiah. Its all a bipartisan conspiracy to make Trump seem like a juvenile, deranged narcissistic bigot, which he most definitely is not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,870 Posted December 29, 2018 The whole pitch for the wall was Mexico paying for it. Now hes holding the government hostage and extorting to try and get it built, which it wont be. Impeachment chance started at about 60, went down to around 10 and is now back up to around 30-40 Id say. Keep your Dr, lower premiums, gotta read it before we know whats in it was fine and focking dandy for you. No screaming for impeachment. You're a hypocrite I'd say. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted December 29, 2018 You said 50% of the people wanted it. That isnt true. Well, last I checked, Trump is the president and Hillary is still appealing to inner city slums where she never had a solution for any of their problems. Trump was smart and went after the rest of the country who was sick of Obama's racial divide speeches and Hillary's everything. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,870 Posted December 29, 2018 You said 50% of the people wanted it. That isnt true. Kinda like 90% want more gun control? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted December 29, 2018 60% of the time it works everytime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted December 29, 2018 All of those networks have been assimilated by the Deep State. Same with the Weekly Standard, the National Review, Military Times and any random Fox correspondent who gently differs with the Orange Messiah. Its all a bipartisan conspiracy to make Trump seem like a juvenile, deranged narcissistic bigot, which he most definitely is not. Thats what makes me the most uneasy about Trump, and by extension his flock. This whole cult of personality thing, thats usually reserved for dictators. Obviously people loved Obama, Bush, Clinton, etc and they all did a lot of really stupid sh!t that their loyal followers dismissed. But he stokes this primal fear that I honestly had no idea existed here. I dont ever remember a group of Americans so indoctrinated by the propaganda of a president. Its pretty bizarre TBH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,878 Posted December 29, 2018 Thats what makes me the most uneasy about Trump, and by extension his flock. This whole cult of personality thing, thats usually reserved for dictators. Obviously people loved Obama, Clinton, etc. They did a lot of really stupid sh!t that their loyal followers dismissed. But I dont ever remember a group of Americans so indoctrinated by the propaganda of a president. Its pretty bizarre TBH. Oh FFS. The cult of Obama was far more indoctrinated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted December 29, 2018 Oh FFS. The cult of Obama was far more indoctrinated. See what I mean... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted December 29, 2018 Oh FFS. The cult of Obama was far more indoctrinated. Not even focking close. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,878 Posted December 29, 2018 See what I mean... so disagreeing with you means that someone's indoctrinated? Give me a f@cking break with that crap. I don't even like Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted December 29, 2018 Not even focking close. TDS!!! Orange Man Bad. Etc!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted December 29, 2018 Hillary, obama, and the rest of the dems are socialists and are 100% closer to Hitler than Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted December 29, 2018 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa2il_zHFm8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted December 29, 2018 Oh FFS. The cult of Obama was far more indoctrinated. Not even in the same stratosphere. Far and away the most extremism this term. I cant recall any political thread during Obamas whole term, now its 20 threads a day for the entire term. But its coming out now, the society shift is probably exposing more of it from both sides. Liberals especially are providing a lot of comedy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted December 29, 2018 Thats what makes me the most uneasy about Trump, and by extension his flock. This whole cult of personality thing, thats usually reserved for dictators. Obviously people loved Obama, Clinton, etc. They did a lot of really stupid sh!t that their loyal followers dismissed. He stokes this primal fear that I honestly had no idea existed here. I dont ever remember a group of Americans so indoctrinated by the propaganda of a president. Its pretty bizarre TBH. Has it occurred to you that all the 'stupid sh!t' as you call it in actuality was criminal behavior which makes you excusing them part of their cult? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted December 29, 2018 Not even in the same stratosphere. Far and away the most extremism this term. I cant recall any political thread during Obamas whole term, now its 20 threads a day for the entire term. But its coming out now, the society shift is probably exposing more of it from both sides. During Obamas tenure, 90% of the GC threads were the usual suspects complaining about Obama. Now in the era of Trump, 90% of the threads are the usual suspects complaining about people (generally the fake media) complaining about Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted December 29, 2018 Not even in the same stratosphere. Far and away the most extremism this term. People question Trump. No obama supporters questioned obama's wrath on this country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites