will the 2019 patriots go undefeated?

[Masshole 642]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

They know its over. Maybe They are just trying to see where they stand. I guess they get points for longevity, but of the three other dynasties I have seen, Steelers, 49'rs, Cowboys,  the Patriots rank last. Those teams were way too physical for the Pats. Tommy isn't playing past  35 in those days. And that's pushing it. Best of their time? Sure. All time? No. But they don't think football existed prior to 2002

I decided to tap out of this thread earlier today because I knew it would just turn into a Pats haters circle jerk.  

But this, this is so monumentally stupid that I cannot.    I hope for your sake that you are just trolling.    If not, I hope that you have not nor ever will  have children.   This kind of stupidity is a threat to the world and humanity.  

AND you are a fake Giants fan.    Please Google Charlie Conerly.    He was a Giants QB until he was 40 and ended his career in 1961.   You know, back in the good old days when there were no tough guys around.   

Yah, today's NFL that is populated with a bunch of players who are physical freaks and have been professionally trained in multi-million dollar work out facilities since they got out of HS is a bunch of pussies.     

You are such a hack.   Pathetic. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

1 minute ago, Masshole said:

I decided to tap out of this thread earlier today because I knew it would just turn into a Pats haters circle jerk.  

But this, this is so monumentally stupid that I cannot.    I hope for your sake that you are just trolling.    If not, I hope that you have not nor ever will  have children.   This kind of stupidity is a threat to the world and humanity.  

AND you are a fake Giants fan.    Please Google Charlie Conerly.    He was a Giants QB until he was 40 and ended his career in 1961.   You know, back in the good old days when there were no tough guys around.   

Yah, today's NFL that is populated with a bunch of players who are physical freaks and have been professionally trained in multi-million dollar work out facilities since they got out of HS is a bunch of pussies.     

You are such a hack.   Pathetic. 

1961? When bench pressing 250 was impressive? D Lineman were 225? Everyone was white? Go away boy. You’re in over your head. 

[Masshole 642]

21 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

1961? When bench pressing 250 was impressive? D Lineman were 225? Everyone was white? Go away boy. You’re in over your head. 

Yah, I am "over my head" with the brilliance of your points.   You don't even know the history of your own team.     Are you tired of getting dunked on yet?    Because I can go on all night busting you up.  It's that easy.      

Don't worry, you don't have to go back to your safe space.   I wanted to tap out of this Pats hater circle jerk anyway.    I only came out of retirement to dunk on you one more time.  If that's not getting old for you yet, it sure is for me.   

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

6 minutes ago, Masshole said:

Yah, I am "over my head" with the brilliance of your points.   You don't even know the history of your own team.     Are you tired of getting dunked on yet?    Because I can go on all night busting you up.  It's that easy.      

Don't worry, you don't have to go back to your safe space.   I wanted to tap out of this Pats hater circle jerk anyway.    I only came out of retirement to dunk on you one more time.  If that's not getting old for you yet, it sure is for me.   

How many years did Conerly play smart guy? Go away and get yourself some cider, Sully.  

[Cloaca du jour 2,157]

Well that explains yesterday's game https://imgur.com/gallery/lXTBIBa

Hahahahshshshs

[vuduchile 1,947]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Why? He didn't take a beating? 

All QBs who entered the NFL post 1995 played by this rule:

1995: When tackling a passer during or just after throwing a pass, a defensive player is prohibited from unnecessarily and violently throwing him down and landing on top of him with all or most of the defender’s weight.

Eli also played many years after the following rules were implemented: (Favre did too, but he started playing in 91-92, so he had 10 years of hard knocks pre 2002)

2002: It is illegal to hit a quarterback helmet-to-helmet any time after a change of possession.

2006: Low hits on the quarterback are prohibited when a rushing defender has an opportunity to avoid such contact.

2007: A block below the waist against an eligible receiver while the quarterback is in the pocket is a 15-yard penalty instead of a 5-yard penalty (an illegal cut block).

2009: It is an illegal hit on a defenseless receiver if the initial force of the contact by the defender’s helmet, forearm, or shoulder is to the head or neck area of the receiver. Penalty: 15 yards.

All these rules, while making the game safer, made it infinitely easier for a QB and their receivers to succeed  

Starr, Bradshaw, Staubach, Montana, even Aikman and Young played at a time when defenders went head hunting as soon as a QB left the pocket   

Do you think today’s QB’s and WR’s would survive with guys like Butkus, Lambert, Lott and Tatum roaming the field?  I don’t.

 

 

[sderk 1,040]

4 hours ago, vuduchile said:

Lol at “greatest pro sports team of all time”. They’re not even the greatest team from New England.  

The Celtics have 17 championships 

The Yankees have 27

The Lakers have 16

The Packers won 9 championships pre merger and 4 more post merger

 Enough  

 

You did, but you shouldn't compare NFL championship #s with basketball or baseball. Basketball only takes a couple great players to dominate for a long time. Baseball has no salary cap.

Hockey would be a better comparison.

[vuduchile 1,947]

1 hour ago, Cloaca du jour said:

Well that explains yesterday's game https://imgur.com/gallery/lXTBIBa

Hahahahshshshs

Awesome. 

[vuduchile 1,947]

3 minutes ago, sderk said:

You did, but you shouldn't compare NFL championship #s with basketball or baseball. Basketball only takes a couple great players to dominate for a long time. Baseball has no salary cap.

Hockey would be a better comparison.

Masshole is the one who said “greatest pro sports team”.  

His words, not mine. 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

4 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

They know its over. Maybe They are just trying to see where they stand. I guess they get points for longevity, but of the three other dynasties I have seen, Steelers, 49'rs, Cowboys,  the Patriots rank last. Those teams were way too physical for the Pats. Tommy isn't playing past  35 in those days. And that's pushing it. Best of their time? Sure. All time? No. But they don't think football existed prior to 2002

I was at the Patriots subreddit yesterday. Not gloating or talking sh!t, I just like to read meltdowns. Lol

They really dont see that it's over. Saw time and time again... "no way Brady let's his last pass be a pick 6 at Gillette," and "we just need some more weapons and we will be back next year."

Honestly... I expected us to beat em worse than we did. I did not expect the Titans passing game to get completely shut down. I was expecting something similar to last year's meeting.

It's been apparent for two years now that Brady is declining, and it's only going to speed up. Is he "done?" probably not. Put him on a loaded roster, he can get it done. He's one of the smartest students of the game we've seen.

But he can no longer carry a bargain basement band of scrub receivers. 

I will be very interested to see what happens up there this off-season. In Nashville too. We have decisions to make about Henry, Tannehill, Logan Ryan, and RT Conklin.

Many interesting situations league wife. Dallas and Dak. NO and brees/Bridgewater. TB and Winston. CAR and cam. LA and rivers.

Could be a big shakeup this off-season. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

12 minutes ago, vuduchile said:

All QBs who entered the NFL post 1995 played by this rule:

1995: When tackling a passer during or just after throwing a pass, a defensive player is prohibited from unnecessarily and violently throwing him down and landing on top of him with all or most of the defender’s weight.

Eli also played many years after the following rules were implemented: (Favre did too, but he started playing in 91-92, so he had 10 years of hard knocks pre 2002)

2002: It is illegal to hit a quarterback helmet-to-helmet any time after a change of possession.

2006: Low hits on the quarterback are prohibited when a rushing defender has an opportunity to avoid such contact.

2007: A block below the waist against an eligible receiver while the quarterback is in the pocket is a 15-yard penalty instead of a 5-yard penalty (an illegal cut block).

2009: It is an illegal hit on a defenseless receiver if the initial force of the contact by the defender’s helmet, forearm, or shoulder is to the head or neck area of the receiver. Penalty: 15 yards.

All these rules, while making the game safer, made it infinitely easier for a QB and their receivers to succeed  

Starr, Bradshaw, Staubach, Montana, even Aikman and Young played at a time when defenders went head hunting as soon as a QB left the pocket   

Do you think today’s QB’s and WR’s would survive with guys like Butkus, Lambert, Lott and Tatum roaming the field?  I don’t.

 

 

Eli would have taken a beating in any era. He was slow and immobile. But he would get back up. He was as tough as any QB in history in the 2011 NFC championship. Got his ass kicked the whole game. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

12 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

I was at the Patriots subreddit yesterday. Not gloating or talking sh!t, I just like to read meltdowns. Lol

They really dont see that it's over. Saw time and time again... "no way Brady let's his last pass be a pick 6 at Gillette," and "we just need some more weapons and we will be back next year."

Honestly... I expected us to beat em worse than we did. I did not expect the Titans passing game to get completely shut down. I was expecting something similar to last year's meeting.

It's been apparent for two years now that Brady is declining, and it's only going to speed up. Is he "done?" probably not. Put him on a loaded roster, he can get it done. He's one of the smartest students of the game we've seen.

But he can no longer carry a bargain basement band of scrub receivers. 

I will be very interested to see what happens up there this off-season. In Nashville too. We have decisions to make about Henry, Tannehill, Logan Ryan, and RT Conklin.

Many interesting situations league wife. Dallas and Dak. NO and brees/Bridgewater. TB and Winston. CAR and cam. LA and rivers.

Could be a big shakeup this off-season. 

This is a huge shift going on in the nfl. The old guard QB’s are fading and a new era of qb’ing has arrived. You may not need to have the greatest qb anymore to win a title. The game has become very easy for the position with the rules and how they are enforced. . Brady and Brees got taken out by Henry,  Cooks some big plays on defense and a few plays out of the qb position. That would be unheard of a few years ago. 

[vuduchile 1,947]

43 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Eli would have taken a beating in any era. He was slow and immobile. But he would get back up. He was as tough as any QB in history in the 2011 NFC championship. Got his ass kicked the whole game. 

Speculation and conjecture are not the same as actual experience.  

I stand by my original statement. Favre was the last of the tough guy  QBs.  

 

[nobody 2,883]

I don't think being addicted to pain killers makes you tough.  Is it really tough if you go into every game numb?

[Favre is a Twat 34]

1 hour ago, vuduchile said:

Speculation and conjecture are not the same as actual experience.  

I stand by my original statement. Favre was the last of the tough guy  QBs.  

 

Favre is a pill popping POS. When he’s lying on his deathbed I’ll walk in wearing nothing but Crocs and a smile and suffocate him with a plastic bag of my farts. Then I’ll pinch a chit cone off on his grave. 

Fock him.    

[JustinCharge 2,397]

8 hours ago, Cloaca du jour said:

Well that explains yesterday's game https://imgur.com/gallery/lXTBIBa

Hahahahshshshs

He's wearing Chargers colors!

[RLLD 4,275]

I was THOROUGHLY entertained when Bellicheat had his little rule "fock you" moment turned back onto him by Vrabel.   That little sequence where Vrabel took the penalties to chew time had Billy Boy all kinds of twisted.....and yet....when HE did it to the Jets, when by the way the Pats were UP 33 - 0 , he was all smirky.....

Fock you Bill you punk, you dish it out but when its done back to you now its all wrong????  Fock you sir....

Link

[drobeski 3,061]

1 hour ago, RLLD said:

I was THOROUGHLY entertained when Bellicheat had his little rule "fock you" moment turned back onto him by Vrabel.   That little sequence where Vrabel took the penalties to chew time had Billy Boy all kinds of twisted.....and yet....when HE did it to the Jets, when by the way the Pats were UP 33 - 0 , he was all smirky.....

Fock you Bill you punk, you dish it out but when its done back to you now its all wrong????  Fock you sir....

Link

Buddy, the ravens are pretty good this year and wont have to face the pats.  

No need to be crying and making excuses yet.  Save that for Harbaugh 

[RLLD 4,275]

Just now, drobeski said:

Buddy, the ravens are pretty good this year and wont have to face the pats.  

No need to be crying and making excuses yet.  Save that for Harbaugh 

Not making excuses, but I am enjoying both having one of Bellicheats little rule manipulations used back on him for a moment, which was heightened by his reaction to it being done back to him....  its a feel good moment.....  

[drobeski 3,061]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Not making excuses, but I am enjoying both having one of Bellicheats little rule manipulations used back on him for a moment, which was heightened by his reaction to it being done back to him....  its a feel good moment.....  

It was legal. Maybe the ravens would have won a couple more if their coach was as bright at bill. But come on we both know he's not. 

[MDC 7,887]

30 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Not making excuses, but I am enjoying both having one of Bellicheats little rule manipulations used back on him for a moment, which was heightened by his reaction to it being done back to him....  its a feel good moment.....  

I liked that too. Reminded me of how Tommy Pigtails dropped that pass in SB52 so Dougie P. called the same play on 4th down later just to humiliate the Pats when it worked.

 

[drobeski 3,061]

26 minutes ago, MDC said:

I liked that too. Reminded me of how Tommy Pigtails dropped that pass in SB52 so Dougie P. called the same play on 4th down later just to humiliate the Pats when it worked.

 

Wentz

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,433]

3 hours ago, RLLD said:

I was THOROUGHLY entertained when Bellicheat had his little rule "fock you" moment turned back onto him by Vrabel.   That little sequence where Vrabel took the penalties to chew time had Billy Boy all kinds of twisted.....and yet....when HE did it to the Jets, when by the way the Pats were UP 33 - 0 , he was all smirky.....

Fock you Bill you punk, you dish it out but when its done back to you now its all wrong????  Fock you sir....

Link

Except BB wasn’t smug. He said at the time in the Jets game that it was a loophole that should be closed.

[porkbutt 897]

52 minutes ago, drobeski said:

Wentz

cheap shot illegal hit is funny?

[Strike 6,021]

17 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

Except BB wasn’t smug. He said at the time in the Jets game that it was a loophole that should be closed.

Both things can be true.  He can be smug about exploiting a loophole that he thinks should be closed. 

[RLLD 4,275]

31 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

Except BB wasn’t smug. He said at the time in the Jets game that it was a loophole that should be closed.

He did, that is true, but when he was exploiting it he was smirking, smiling, he was enjoying it.....and it is fine to say it should be closed after inflicting it on another team, which also eliminated his ability to throw his fit when it was done back to him

[MDC 7,887]

The funniest part is that BB uncorked his “loophole” in the second half of a 33-0 win over the Jets.

Congratu-focking-lations Bill.  

[TimmySmith 2,783]

2 minutes ago, MDC said:

The funniest part is that BB uncorked his “loophole” in the second half of a 33-0 win over the Jets.

Congratu-focking-lations Bill.  

And man was he cussing at the end of the game while the Titans were pwning him.  

[RLLD 4,275]

37 minutes ago, MDC said:

The funniest part is that BB uncorked his “loophole” in the second half of a 33-0 win over the Jets.

Congratu-focking-lations Bill.  

And this fact also matters.....when you are sort of a d!ck time and again, and then rub this loophole into a team you are trouncing and THEN throw a massive fit when its done back to you.....it says alot about you as a person

[drobeski 3,061]

1 hour ago, porkbutt said:

cheap shot illegal hit is funny?

Funny as hell, he's just a poosy.  Its beyond evident the kid doesnt want to play. Maybe they can set up a professional flag league he can thrive in. 

[MDC 7,887]

21 minutes ago, RLLD said:

And this fact also matters.....when you are sort of a d!ck time and again, and then rub this loophole into a team you are trouncing and THEN throw a massive fit when its done back to you.....it says alot about you as a person

I think what it says about BB and the Pats is that bending / breaking the rules is a part of their culture. They do it whether they need to or not because it’s who they are. Spying on the Bengals says it all.

[porkbutt 897]

31 minutes ago, drobeski said:

Funny as hell, he's just a poosy.  Its beyond evident the kid doesnt want to play. Maybe they can set up a professional flag league he can thrive in. 

classless...just like the cheating pats organization

[drobeski 3,061]

11 minutes ago, porkbutt said:

classless...just like the cheating pats organization

Admit it, he's a glass jawed puzsy 

[edjr 6,898]

2 hours ago, porkbutt said:

cheap shot illegal hit is funny?

How long did it take to vacuum up the pieces of glass from the chandelier? 

1st fighter in Tyson's punch out should be changed from Glass Joe to Carson Wentz

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,433]

1 hour ago, RLLD said:

He did, that is true, but when he was exploiting it he was smirking, smiling, he was enjoying it.....and it is fine to say it should be closed after inflicting it on another team, which also eliminated his ability to throw his fit when it was done back to him

so, you saw him smirking, smiling, etc. during the Jets game when it was 33-0 and this was happening? 

[edjr 6,898]

3 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

so, you saw him smirking, smiling, etc. during the Jets game when it was 33-0 and this was happening? 

BBDS

[Strike 6,021]

5 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

so, you saw him smirking, smiling, etc. during the Jets game when it was 33-0 and this was happening? 

There's a video in the link posted above.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,433]

28 minutes ago, Strike said:

There's a video in the link posted above.

That is smug.

[Strike 6,021]

2 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

That is smug.

For Bellicheat that's a sh*t eating grin.

[porkbutt 897]

do you think the number of pats fans will fall to pre-2001 levels next year?