huskyhater75 242 Posted November 17, 2019 He says he wants to play at least until he's 45, but he's done. NE has had to resort to trick plays, something they've never had to do before. NE does need to find a replacement for him but he doesn't "thread the needle" like he used to. Plus his receiving corp isn't the same with Gronk gone-they resort to depending on their defense and kicking FG's after they get into the red zone. Sad fact, he's seen better days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted November 18, 2019 These declarations of Brady’s death usually end in another patriots SB win. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,949 Posted November 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, huskyhater75 said: He says he wants to play at least until he's 45, but he's done. NE has had to resort to trick plays, something they've never had to do before. NE does need to find a replacement for him but he doesn't "thread the needle" like he used to. Plus his receiving corp isn't the same with Gronk gone-they resort to depending on their defense and kicking FG's after they get into the red zone. Sad fact, he's seen better days. You're saying the Patriots just started running trick plays? Mike Vrabel had 5 receiving touchdowns. He was a linebacker and is the head coach of the Titans now. Hasn't played in years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,733 Posted November 18, 2019 Just now, Utilit99 said: Arod is the GOAT Agreed! Aaron Rodgers is definitely the GOAT. Good call! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BufordT 376 Posted November 18, 2019 They've been saying this for what seems like a decade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted November 18, 2019 All he does is win win win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thornton Melon 549 Posted November 18, 2019 59 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You're saying the Patriots just started running trick plays? Mike Vrabel had 10 receiving touchdowns. He was a linebacker and is the head coach of the Titans now. Hasn't played in years. Corrected Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,430 Posted November 18, 2019 Boy he did look pretty bad out there today. They still won but geez Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,105 Posted November 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Utilit99 said: All he does is win win win. All the coaching staff does is win win win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted November 18, 2019 Just now, nobody said: All the coaching staff does is win win win. With Brady at the helm. That's riiiiggght. QB the most important piece of any football team. And Brady is the GOAT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,516 Posted November 18, 2019 I’m sure most qbs look at Brady’s career and think, wow if he was only a little bit better, I wonder what he would have achieved.. Poor guy n Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 405 Posted November 18, 2019 It is what it is. He can still play quite well in their system, which is by far the best in the NFL. It's clear though, he's not got much left. I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's his last season, or he falls off a cliff next season. His long ball has been lacking for a couple of years and they've covered it up with a brilliant short passing game. Now it's even hard to cover it there. It just goes to show how great a player he is and how great a coach Bill is, but it can't last forever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted November 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, polecatt said: It is what it is. He can still play quite well in their system, which is by far the best in the NFL. It's clear though, he's not got much left. I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's his last season, or he falls off a cliff next season. His long ball has been lacking for a couple of years and they've covered it up with a brilliant short passing game. Now it's even hard to cover it there. It just goes to show how great a player he is and how great a coach Bill is, but it can't last forever. They don't cover up for Brady. They allow Brady to do whatever it takes to win football games. And that is what he does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadLizard 73 Posted November 18, 2019 9 hours ago, Utilit99 said: All he does is win win win. Incorrect. Alls that happens is the patriots win. And, the entire 20 year "run" is littered with dodgy situations, giftwrapped bye weeks and playoff seeding, and of course cheating. The defense is also responsible for at least 4 of their Super Bowls. Seems that anytime Brady and the offense was the strong part of the team they didn’t win the SB. It’s cool, he’s a fine quarterback. It’s just too bad there didn’t have to be so many "yeah buts" with the organization. Very shady. Those are the facts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, RoadLizard said: Incorrect. Alls that happens is the patriots win. And, the entire 20 year "run" is littered with dodgy situations, giftwrapped bye weeks and playoff seeding, and of course cheating. The defense is also responsible for at least 4 of their Super Bowls. Seems that anytime Brady and the offense was the strong part of the team they didn’t win the SB. It’s cool, he’s a fine quarterback. It’s just too bad there didn’t have to be so many "yeah buts" with the organization. Very shady. Those are the facts. Troll Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadLizard 73 Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Jarvis Basnight said: Troll And you "bit". Little fishy. Its OK, the whole world outside of Boston knows this is all fact. No worries. Nice that Kraft got busted trafficking sex slaves around too. Nice way to top off the big joke that is NE. Well Played, guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted November 18, 2019 50 minutes ago, RoadLizard said: And you "bit". Little fishy. Its OK, the whole world outside of Boston knows this is all fact. No worries. Nice that Kraft got busted trafficking sex slaves around too. Nice way to top off the big joke that is NE. Well Played, guys. You're so very clever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted November 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jarvis Basnight said: You're so very clever 216-61 QB record - 531 TDs - 64% completion percentage - Never had a losing season. - GOAT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,949 Posted November 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Utilit99 said: 216-61 QB record - 531 TDs - 64% completion percentage - Never had a losing season. - GOAT No one else in that division has won a super bowl since Nixon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,430 Posted November 18, 2019 He’s the GOAT but everything ends eventually. He may be there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted November 18, 2019 His receivers are: Sanu, Dorsett, and Edelman. That's a HOF trio right there. How 'bout that oline? Wow. Let's blame Brady. He has a history of having the best WRs in football any given year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,949 Posted November 18, 2019 27 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: His receivers are: Sanu, Dorsett, and Edelman. That's a HOF trio right there. How 'bout that oline? Wow. Let's blame Brady. He has a history of having the best WRs in football any given year. Moss, Gronk. Let's not act like he hasn't had a few good ones. Gronk is the goat and Moss is close. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 405 Posted November 18, 2019 14 hours ago, Utilit99 said: They don't cover up for Brady. They allow Brady to do whatever it takes to win football games. And that is what he does. Sure they do, they don't throw it deep like they used to. They game plan to what he can and away from what he can't do, just like every team does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted November 18, 2019 1 minute ago, polecatt said: Sure they do, they don't throw it deep like they used to. They game plan to what he can and away from what he can't do, just like every team does. Brady is the whole offense at this point this year. They can't run the ball, no above average receivers, terrible oline. Brady somehow wills the team to win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huskyhater75 242 Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Moss, Gronk. Let's not act like he hasn't had a few good ones. Gronk is the goat and Moss is close. HAHA I agree totally. Plus NE plays (as pittsburg did for years) in a weak division, thus all the playoff appearances. The o-line does take good care of him and Big Bill game plans very well for Brady-top notch organization. He might play until he's 45, he just doesn't have the arm he used to. NE and he will still do well, my OP was just a conversation piece. Have a good day! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Moss, Gronk. Let's not act like he hasn't had a few good ones. Gronk is the goat and Moss is close. 20 years and you got 1 very good oft injured tight end and a end of his career WR? Moss didn't get to the Patriots until his 10th year in the league and Minnisota and Oakland didn't want him anymore and he was not a great team guy and Brady still made him look good until they let him go and then nothing else for him. It was Brady that made Moss' last couple years very good. Noone else wanted that dude. Compare his 2004-2006 stats with his 2007-2009 years. And let me know what Brady did for that guy? FYI, everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Moss, Gronk. Let's not act like he hasn't had a few good ones. Gronk is the goat and Moss is close. 20 years and you got 1 very good oft injured tight end and a end of his career WR? Moss didn't get to the Patriots until his 10th year in the league and Minnisota and Oakland didn't want him anymore and he was not a great team guy and Brady still made him look good until they let him go and then nothing else for him. It was Brady that made Moss' last couple years very good. Noone else wanted that dude. Compare Moss' 2004-2006 stats with his 2007-2009 years. And let me know what Brady did for that guy? FYI, everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canadianfan 76 Posted November 18, 2019 Brady doesn't have to be good..... just show up, don't throw a pick, don't fumble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bills04 46 Posted November 18, 2019 Check out Sexy Rexy's piece on ESPN. Brady has two slots guys (Edelman and Sanu) .. a bunch of JAGs. Can you imagine the difference in his stats if AB wasn't a psycho, and was still on the roster?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 405 Posted November 19, 2019 8 hours ago, Utilit99 said: Brady is the whole offense at this point this year. They can't run the ball, no above average receivers, terrible oline. Brady somehow wills the team to win. They're winning mainly because of a very weak schedule and the defense is top notch, not Brady. Don't get me wrong, he's done his part but he's basically a bus driver at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,516 Posted November 19, 2019 Just shocked that the Patriots just keep bringing him back season after season. Heh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadLizard 73 Posted November 19, 2019 22 hours ago, Jarvis Basnight said: You're so very clever I know, thanks. I just lay it out there. Its a shady thing they got going on over there in Boston. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,026 Posted November 19, 2019 11 hours ago, weepaws said: Just shocked that the Patriots just keep bringing him back season after season. Heh. The price of an NFL starting qb is absurdly high. Each year they win with him giving them a "im not even the breadwinner in my household" deal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
knight11e 10 Posted November 20, 2019 Brady has proven himself to be the goat... that being said, the patriots won 10 games with Matt Cassel as their starter, so there’s obviously a system in place doing more than its share of the work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canadianfan 76 Posted November 20, 2019 Brady is the GOAT, there's no denying that. But there's also no denying that this year he has been below average. his deep ball is all but gone, and opposing defenses know this. Despite that, Brady will probably get another ring because of this stupid defense.... The Patriot Defense might be the best of all time. Despite all the rule changes geared to scoring they have put up silly numbers..... over an 8 game stretch (Superbowl, and the 1st 7 games this year) the patriot Defense has allowed 30 points total.....for an average of 3.75 per game. no that's not a calculating error.......3.75 average per game over an 8 game stretch. A child could QB the 2019 patriots Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted November 20, 2019 He's got 2 more years left at best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canadianfan 76 Posted November 20, 2019 On 11/18/2019 at 3:57 PM, Utilit99 said: 20 years and you got 1 very good oft injured tight end and a end of his career WR? Moss didn't get to the Patriots until his 10th year in the league and Minnisota and Oakland didn't want him anymore and he was not a great team guy and Brady still made him look good until they let him go and then nothing else for him. It was Brady that made Moss' last couple years very good. Noone else wanted that dude. Compare Moss' 2004-2006 stats with his 2007-2009 years. And let me know what Brady did for that guy? FYI, everything. Moss was without a doubt the best deep ball WR in history. Now match him up with one of the greatest QB’s ever,.......ding,!!!........we have a match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted November 20, 2019 Brady was horrible with the deep ball. Moss with Aaron Rodgers and god know what his numbers would had been. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canadianfan 76 Posted November 20, 2019 30 minutes ago, Skinny_Bastard said: Brady was horrible with the deep ball. Moss with Aaron Rodgers and god know what his numbers would had been. Agreed. Rodgers with Belichick and moss would’ve been quite special. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites