Coronavirus - Doomsday

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

This year is the most careful people have been about getting sick in a very long time.  The numbers should go down as more people stay home, wear masks when they do go out and wash their hands more often.  Seems like common sense.

[Utilit99 4,099]

2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

 

You know the year starts in January right?   (Edit:  But their deaths data is flu & pneumonia, so certainly possible flu deaths are down for the year, meaning many of those deaths are coming from pneumonia which is yet another sign that covid deaths could actually be undercounted since covid often results in pneumonia)

In addition, you know we have a test for Flu right?  From the same link your image came from which I see you chose not to share - 0.2% testing positive - https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

Even forgetting masks for a second, tons of people working and going to school from home (not saying they should be going to school from home)...you don’t think thats likely going to lead to less people getting sick with stuff they normally get sick from?

 

"Remains" lower.

[drobeski 3,061]

 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,508]

Just now, drobeski said:

 

 

It will kill you! Even though it’s one of the most prescribed drugs  on earth for about 60 years, it will kill YOU. 

[Horseman 2,478]

22 hours ago, tanatastic said:

Forget studies and stats for a second...what part of the concept of wearing a mask to keep particles closer to yourself do you not think is real? Use this cartoon graphic on this site as reference and tell me what part of that you feel is not only wrong, but the opposite. https://www.eamc.org/news-and-media/why-is-wearing-a-mask-important
Again, no studies or politics, just use physics and logic and tell me what part of the concept of covering your moth to prevent more particles from being expelled you feel is wrong.

Its like arguing umbrellas don’t keep you dryer in the rain than not having an umbrella. I don’t need a study or science to explain to me how covering my head prevents more water from hitting me, I just use basic logic.

Easy.  There is no dimension given between one smiley face and the other.  The article doesn't even mention social distancing.  It gives the false impression that mask wearing is THE most important factor and dismisses the effects of social distancing. 

Masks are stupid.  If you're afraid of the virus stay away from strangers.  If you've got a cough, ok wear a mask.  If you're sick, stay home.  The chances of you getting some amount of wet on you are magnitudes greater when you walk around in the rain even if you have an umbrella than if you just kept out of the rain in the first place.

[Cdub100 3,930]

9 minutes ago, drobeski said:

 

 

Trump tried to save lives with a generic drug that has been available for 60+ years. A drug that the great Dr. Fauci called a miracle drug. And the liberals here and in the media attacked him for it.

This is so disgustingly sad. 

[Cdub100 3,930]

Just now, Horseman said:

Easy.  There is no dimension given between one smiley face and the other.  The article doesn't even mention social distancing.  It gives the false impression that mask wearing is THE most important factor and dismisses the effects of social distancing. 

Masks are stupid.  If you're afraid of the virus stay away from strangers.  If you've got a cough, ok wear a mask.  If you're sick, stay home.  The chances of you getting some amount of wet on you are magnitudes greater when you walk around in the rain even if you have an umbrella than if you just kept out of the rain in the first place.

Bingo. Very good point about the false impression the artile gives. 

The CDC says social distancing is the most important. Which makes 100% logical sense. You can't get a virus if you're not around people who have it.

Next is good hygiene. Washing your hands kills the virus and not touching your eyes, nose, and mouth limits the spread. 

Last is masks which the CDC says offers very little protection if any at all. I've also demonstrated through multiple studies posted here masks when used improperly can increase the chance of infection and spread.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

4 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Trump tried to save lives with a generic drug that has been available for 60+ years. A drug that the great Dr. Fauci called a miracle drug. And the liberals here and in the media attacked him for it.

This is so disgustingly sad. 

Why didn't Trump take HCQ when he caught the COVID? He took the Regeneron cocktail instead.

[Horseman 2,478]

I'm just glad there are several bars and restaurants near me that are giving the middle finger to these latest shut downs and are staying open.

-OPEN-

Running around scared of a virus that doesn't affect the vast majority of healthy people is absurd.   

[Horseman 2,478]

1 minute ago, Cdub100 said:

Bingo. Very good point about the false impression the artile gives. 

The CDC says social distancing is the most important. Which makes 100% logical sense. You can't get a virus if you're not around people who have it.

Next is good hygiene. Washing your hands kills the virus and not touching your eyes, nose, and mouth limits the spread. 

Last is masks which the CDC says offers very little protection if any at all. I've also demonstrated through multiple studies posted here masks when used improperly can increase the chance of infection and spread.

Right, and really you only have to do those things if you are around the old and vulnerable.  We'd be much better off (and in even better position now with a vaccine) if we had spread the anti-bodies around the healthy of us.  We could have shaved months of reaching heard immunity and avoided all the economic devastation (and health consequences of).

[TimHauck 2,909]

2 hours ago, Utilit99 said:

"Remains" lower.

"for this time of year"

[Cdub100 3,930]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/12/15/pfizer-moderna-covid-vaccine-trials-and-bells-palsy-what-it/3904994001/

Don't worry everyone having a face that looks like melted ice cream will be an improvement for most you plebs.

[Horseman 2,478]

2 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

This year is the most careful people have been about getting sick in a very long time.  The numbers should go down as more people stay home, wear masks when they do go out and wash their hands more often.  Seems like common sense.

False, The numbers aren't down when states (California) for example mandate we do that.  The numbers will go down when we get enough vaccine and anti-bodies distributed throughout the herd.  Something we'd be much closer to if we all wouldn't have run scared.

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

False, The numbers aren't down when states (California) for example mandate we do that.  The numbers will go down when we get enough vaccine and anti-bodies distributed throughout the herd.  Something we'd be much closer to if we all wouldn't have run scared.

I was talking about the flu, not COVID.

[nobody 2,691]

6 hours ago, Utilit99 said:

 

Key Updates for Week 49, ending December 5, 2020

Seasonal influenza activity in the United States remains lower than usual for this time of year.

Can you stop helping?  You're making our side look dumb as fock.

[Utilit99 4,099]

29 minutes ago, nobody said:

Can you stop helping?  You're making our side look dumb as fock.

 If I don't agree with you, it's officially your side.

[Strike 5,590]

36 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

Why didn't Trump take HCQ when he caught the COVID? He took the Regeneron cocktail instead.

Just like with any disease, there are multiple treatments available.  He followed the treatment plan decided upon by his doctors who I'm gonna guess are some of the best doctors in the world.  I wasn't in the room (neither were you) to know what their reasoning was for deciding upon the specific treatment plan that was decided on for him.  Trump never said EVERYONE who gets Covid should take HCQ.  He said it should be an option.  A large percentage of doctors agree with him.   So I'm not sure what your point is with this post.

[lod001 1,344]

Give the Pfizer vaccine to Biden and Harris and lets see what happens.

[Cdub100 3,930]

1 hour ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

Why didn't Trump take HCQ when he caught the COVID? He took the Regeneron cocktail instead.

Try again.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/18/politics/donald-trump-hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus/index.html

Trump says he is taking hydroxychloroquine though health experts question its effectiveness

[tanatastic 2,062]

Lol you guys are obsessed with Hydroxychloroquine, a drug that has been proven to not make a difference in covid patients. Countless articles and studies. Reverse TDS is incurable. What’s the purpose of this sinister coverup of Hydro? To what end? If it worked, it would be used and accepted. I’d rather take that invermectin stuff the doctor in the other video was harping about. Honestly I’d take both if I was in the hospital, not like it’s poison.

Not everything under the sun is political you weird lunatics.

[drobeski 3,061]

1 hour ago, Cdub100 said:

Trump tried to save lives with a generic drug that has been available for 60+ years. A drug that the great Dr. Fauci called a miracle drug. And the liberals here and in the media attacked him for it.

This is so disgustingly sad. 

The psychotic leftist hacks don't care. OMB.. 

81million support PEDO JOE. 

They are sick sick people. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,508]

1 hour ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

Why didn't Trump take HCQ when he caught the COVID? He took the Regeneron cocktail instead.

Because it will kill you. Weren’t you paying attention? I assume it’s still true now if it was true then. Unless it was bullshit. I’ll go with bullshit. Why would they do that, say a safe drug was unsafe? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,508]

9 minutes ago, tanatastic said:

Lol you guys are obsessed with Hydroxychloroquine, a drug that has been proven to not make a difference in covid patients. Countless articles and studies. Reverse TDS is incurable. What’s the purpose of this sinister coverup of Hydro? To what end? If it worked, it would be used and accepted. I’d rather take that invermectin stuff the doctor in the other video was harping about. Honestly I’d take both if I was in the hospital, not like it’s poison.

Not everything under the sun is political you weird lunatics.

So why was the left and msm  saying it will kill you? You miss that? Not ineffective, but deadly. It’s not. Why were they saying that? 

[Cdub100 3,930]

9 minutes ago, tanatastic said:

Lol you guys are obsessed with Hydroxychloroquine, a drug that has been proven to not make a difference in covid patients. Countless articles and studies. Reverse TDS is incurable. What’s the purpose of this sinister coverup of Hydro? To what end? If it worked, it would be used and accepted. I’d rather take that invermectin stuff the doctor in the other video was harping about. Honestly I’d take both if I was in the hospital, not like it’s poison.

Not everything under the sun is political you weird lunatics.

This is false. As for the purpose?

1. OMB if a generic drug worked we wouldn't need the great reset, would we? Or all the mail-in ballots or any of the other sh1t we've gone through this year.

2. Billions and billions of dollars.

[tanatastic 2,062]

5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So why was the left and msm  saying it will kill you? You miss that? Not ineffective, but deadly. It’s not. Why were they saying that? 

I’ll go out on a limb and say no one said that and that’s you twisting words (as is the case the vast majority of times). Like what they really said was “it doesn’t work so taking it could kill you.” As in “you aren’t treating it so it’s not helping you and you could still die.”, not “the drug itself is poison and will kill you.” It’s not poisonous lol, it just does nothing for covid.

[tanatastic 2,062]

6 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

This is false. As for the purpose?

1. OMB if a generic drug worked we wouldn't need the great reset, would we? Or all the mail-in ballots or any of the other sh1t we've gone through this year.

2. Billions and billions of dollars.

The medical community wouldn’t “all be in on it” lol, if something worked it would be used, the doctors and nurses don’t give a crap about politics. The one he only reason you are on this side is because Trump was. If he changed his tune, so would you. It’s sad.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,508]

8 minutes ago, tanatastic said:

I’ll go out on a limb and say no one said that and that’s you twisting words (as is the case the vast majority of times). Like what they really said was “it doesn’t work so taking it could kill you.” As in “you aren’t treating it so it’s not helping you and you could still die.”, not “the drug itself is poison and will kill you.” It’s not poisonous lol, it just does nothing for covid.

Go ahead and put it in your google. You can start with Neil Cavuoto. Many others. I twisted nothing. 

[Cdub100 3,930]

1 minute ago, tanatastic said:

The medical community wouldn’t “all be in on it” lol, if something worked it would be used, the doctors and nurses don’t give a crap about politics. The one he only reason you are on this side is because Trump was. If he changed his tune, so would you. It’s sad.

They weren't all in on it. Thousands of Doctors used it and said it worked. The politicians threaten them and the pharmacist if they prescribed it.

https://news.yahoo.com/michigan-governor-threatens-doctors-prescribe-024111454.html

[Hardcore troubadour 15,508]

8 minutes ago, tanatastic said:

I’ll go out on a limb and say no one said that and that’s you twisting words (as is the case the vast majority of times). Like what they really said was “it doesn’t work so taking it could kill you.” As in “you aren’t treating it so it’s not helping you and you could still die.”, not “the drug itself is poison and will kill you.” It’s not poisonous lol, it just does nothing for covid.

Why bring it being deadly into it all? It’s not. Aspirin can kill a few people on earth too.  No one  says that will kill you. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,508]

2 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

They weren't all in on it. Thousands of Doctors used it and said it worked. The politicians threaten them and the pharmacist if they prescribed it.

https://news.yahoo.com/michigan-governor-threatens-doctors-prescribe-024111454.html

Tanatastic was unaware. I wonder why? He’s so well versed on everything. Can’t believe that got  by such a sharp guy. CNN didn’t report on it. Two scoops. 

[tanatastic 2,062]

7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Why bring it being deadly into it all? It’s not. Aspirin can kill a few people on earth too.  No one  says that will kill you. 

It’s not deadly. Looked into that windbag Cavuto and he meant exactly what I said, that if you take it thinking it’s a magic cure, you could die. He did not mean “the drug itself is poisonous!”. 

 

7 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

They weren't all in on it. Thousands of Doctors used it and said it worked. The politicians threaten them and the pharmacist if they prescribed it.

https://news.yahoo.com/michigan-governor-threatens-doctors-prescribe-024111454.html

Conspiracy theory lunacy. There was not some grand scheme to cover up a magic cure for political gain. If a treatment works, it will be used, period. They wouldn’t be able to suppress the entire medical community. 
 

You guys are next level cuckoo over this stuff. Serious Trump dementia.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,508]

5 minutes ago, tanatastic said:

It’s not deadly. Looked into that windbag Cavuto and he meant exactly what I said, that if you take it thinking it’s a magic cure, you could die. He did not mean “the drug itself is poisonous!”. 

 

Conspiracy theory lunacy. There was not some grand scheme to cover up a magic cure for political gain. If a treatment works, it will be used, period. 
 

You guys are next level cuckoo over this stuff. Serious Trump dementia.

But why would he bring death into it? It’s not deadly. Anyone in the military that went to a malaria zone took it. India hands it out like chicklets. Here you are concerned about spin and twisting and regurgitating a twist and some spin as if you proved your point. There was no basis to say it was deadly. It has to be prescribed by a doctor for gods sake. It’s not over the counter and everyone could go buy it. Sheeez. So if your doctor said you should take it you wouldn’t? 

[tanatastic 2,062]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

But why would he bring death into it? It’s not deadly. Anyone in the military that went to a malaria zone took it. India hands it out like chicklets. Here you are concerned about spin and twisting and regurgitating a twist and some spin as if you proved your point. There was no basis to say it was deadly. It has to be prescribed by a doctor for gods sake. It’s not over the counter and everyone could go buy it. Sheeez. So if your doctor said you should take it you wouldn’t? 

Why bring death into it? To be dramatic. Cuz he’s a gasbag. It’s a malaria drug, of course it’s not deadly. I’d take it right now for fun if it was in front of me. I’d snack on it for lunch without a second thought. 

[Fireballer 2,642]

 

[Utilit99 4,099]

3 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

 

GRAND COUNTY, Colo. (CBS4) – The Grand County coroner is calling attention to the way the state health department is classifying some deaths. The coroner, Brenda Bock, says two of their five deaths related to COVID-19 were people who died of gunshot wounds.

 

 40% not chinese flu deaths but reported as such.

[nobody 2,691]

1 hour ago, Utilit99 said:

 If I don't agree with you, it's officially your side.

We both want the same thing.  Lift lockdowns and give us personal choice on masks.  We're on the same side.  The problem is you're that person that people talk about that just no matter what, they're going to parrot whatever talking points are being floated by right media.  altrightBS.com could publish a study that says COVID is actually good for you and you'd be in here like, "YEAH!!! SEE?"  It's pretty obvious you care more about being right then getting it right, so on behalf of our side, can you please sit this one out?

[tanatastic 2,062]

8 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

 

I estimate the real death tally of covid at about 10% of the reported number. According to cdc reports on comorbidities and other factors. So if 300k have died it’s really about 30k imo. 

[nobody 2,691]

53 minutes ago, tanatastic said:

I’d rather take that invermectin stuff the doctor in the other video was harping about.

I've heard Inherrectum feels pretty good.

[Utilit99 4,099]

3 minutes ago, nobody said:

We both want the same thing.  Lift lockdowns and give us personal choice on masks.  We're on the same side.  The problem is you're that person that people talk about that just no matter what, they're going to parrot whatever talking points are being floated by right media.  altrightBS.com could publish a study that says COVID is actually good for you and you'd be in here like, "YEAH!!! SEE?"  It's pretty obvious you care more about being right then getting it right, so on behalf of our side, can you please sit this one out?

I rarely listen to any media at all. I took that from the CDC website. Unless that is considered media now.

[lod001 1,344]

51 minutes ago, tanatastic said:

Lol you guys are obsessed with Hydroxychloroquine, a drug that has been proven to not make a difference in covid patients. Countless articles and studies. Reverse TDS is incurable. What’s the purpose of this sinister coverup of Hydro? To what end? If it worked, it would be used and accepted. I’d rather take that invermectin stuff the doctor in the other video was harping about. Honestly I’d take both if I was in the hospital, not like it’s poison.

Not everything under the sun is political you weird lunatics.

It's HCQ with zinc and Azith. Not just HCQ. Thats where everyone is getting fooled. Go read every article. here is one:

 

Triple-drug combo of anti-malaria pill hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin and ZINC improved coronavirus patients' chances of being discharged and cut death risk by almost 50%, study finds. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8309337/Zinc-hydroxychloroquine-effective-COVID-19-patients-study.html

Notice it has to be outside the US media's reach.