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11 hours ago, Cdub100 said:

Look at this USAtoday article on the case.

https://archive.ph/6mHUe

CINCINNATTI — A suburban Cincinnati woman, whose husband has been on a ventilator in the hospital with COVID-19, won a court order forcing the hospital to treat her husband's virus with an anti-parasitic treatment commonly used for livestock.
The case is one of a handful nationwide where courts have sided with family members and forced doctors to use Ivermectin, which is unproven in the treatment of COVID-19 and is not recommended by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. 

It's no wonder people like Tim are easily lied to with sh1t like this. They have no idea about the dozens and dozens of studies that have shown its effectiveness. Hell Timmy won't even do his own research. He has to tag us 3 times on a Sunday to do it for him.

We are in a sad state of affairs. I fear it's too late for this man. Ivermectin is best used early on with the onset of symptoms. Hope he pulls through.

NY Post did the same thing:

https://nypost.com/2021/08/30/ohio-judge-orders-covid-patient-be-treated-with-ivermectin/

"An Ohio judge on Monday ordered a hospital to treat a COVID-19 patient with ivermectin — an unproven virus treatment and livestock dewormer — going against CDC and FDA recommendations."

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34 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

If millions find out they had it with no symptoms. How are they supposed to sell their bullsh1t snake oil?

Fixed. 

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35 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

Way too much stupid in this thread.

Well, we can't stop Tim from posting and he is the most prolific poster in this thread.  So here we are.

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A couple my parents know both got Covid.  The husband died.  This was recently.  The reason they didn't get vaccinated is they listened to the loud voices of random people and friends who were anti Covid vaccine and then didn't believe doctors; instead of listening to their doctors.

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12 minutes ago, Strike said:

Well, we can't stop Tim from posting and he is the most prolific poster in this thread.  So here we are.

I'm not the stupid one.    You're not either.  lod001 and TimmySmith exhibits A & B

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1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

I'm not the stupid one.    You're not either.  lod001 and TimmySmith exhibits A & B

I made a list.  :wub:

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6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I'm not the stupid one.    You're not either.  lod001 and TimmySmith exhibits A & B

🤣 Says the tard I've destroyed in this thread from the get go.

Seems the jabs don't make a difference at all. The unhealthy are still dropping dead at the same rate.

 

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25 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

@lod001 @TimmySmith make any sense?

 

One possibility is a PCR test that detected flu and they told him it was covid on 1st exposure.

The other possibility and this would be really bad news for any that are jabbed. The jabs are weakening the immune system. This is not proven yet but Drs are discussing the possibility.

 

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25 minutes ago, lod001 said:

Good luck moderna recipients. Ya gonna need it. You play russian roulette every jab you take.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/fda-issues-warning-about-increased-risk-heart-inflammation-caused-moderna-jab

So this is obviously less of a risk than Covid depending on age/comorbidities.  This is lost on these "get the vaccine or be a murderer" zealots. If you're older and obese and think Covid could be a death sentence, sure take the risk.  But when people are healthy 20 somethings or kids, just fuk the fuk off of when you start to tell me what to do.

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3 hours ago, lod001 said:

🤣 Says the tard I've destroyed in this thread from the get go.

Seems the jabs don't make a difference at all. The unhealthy are still dropping dead at the same rate.

 

Delta.   It's more contagious, and probably more deadly.   Many countries with low vaccination rates currently or recently have seen their highest deaths of the entire pandemic, which I've explained previously.

 

2 hours ago, Fireballer said:

 

This is actually a little concerning.   I agree the announcement of boosters seems rushed, since we don't have nearly as much data on that as the first 2 doses.

 

 

2 hours ago, lod001 said:

One possibility is a PCR test that detected flu and they told him it was covid on 1st exposure.

The other possibility and this would be really bad news for any that are jabbed. The jabs are weakening the immune system. This is not proven yet but Drs are discussing the possibility.

 

Studies have shown that infected + vaccinated is actually better immunity than just natural infection.   And stop with the PCR test lies.   They don't detect flu as covid.    But, considering he's saying it happened in 2019, he didn't get a PCR test since they didn't exist in the US, and like most people that claim they "had covid in 2019,"  he probably didn't.

 

1 hour ago, lod001 said:

I did not. However that doesn't mean it doesn't work, since it does. D1ckhead was asking for as many articles on it as possible so I just saw it and posted it.

No, I wasn't asking for "as many articles as possible."  I was asking for one or a few good ones.  Still waiting.

 

1 hour ago, lod001 said:

Here is the study in question: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1.full

"In model 3, we matched 14,029 persons. Baseline characteristics of the groups are presented in Table 1b. Examining previously infected individuals to those who were both previously infected and received a single dose of the vaccine, we found that the latter group had a significant 0.53-fold (95% CI, 0.3 to 0.92) (Table 4a) decreased risk for reinfection, as 20 had a positive RT-PCR test, compared to 37 in the previously infected and unvaccinated group. Symptomatic disease was present in 16 single dose vaccinees and in 23 of their unvaccinated counterparts. One COVID-19-related hospitalization occurred in the unvaccinated previously infected group. No COVID-19-related mortality was recorded.

We conducted a further sub-analysis, compelling the single-dose vaccine to be administered after the positive RT-PCR test. This subset represented 81% of the previously-infected-and-vaccinated study group. When performing this analysis, we found a similar, though not significant, trend of decreased risk of reinfection, with an OR of 0.68 (95% CI, 0.38 to 1.21, P-value=0.188)."


So, as stated above, vaccinated + previously infected offers better immunity than unvaccinated and previously infected.   So, I agree the Science article was misleading because it stated infected THEN vaccinated and the original finding did not specify that.   The authors of the study did look at that and although that was the case 81% of the time in vaccinated + previously infected people and it technically showed an even better number, it wasn't statistically significant.    

 

 

1 hour ago, lod001 said:

Good luck moderna recipients. Ya gonna need it. You play russian roulette every jab you take.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/fda-issues-warning-about-increased-risk-heart-inflammation-caused-moderna-jab

Myocarditis is a documented and higher than expected side effect of the mRNA vaccines, but still rare.   Considering Moderna and Pfizer are pretty similar but Moderna is a higher dosage, makes sense that it might be worse in Moderna.  And I agree myocarditis is a reason why we need to make sure it's safe to offer third doses and to vaccinate children.

 

52 minutes ago, lod001 said:

Proof, the number of dead in 2020 is a lie. A NJ nursing home had <20 deaths, they reported 753. Busted. How many got away with the lies?.

https://t.co/woYPZ3itT5?amp=1

As noted, your link is wrong.  I did find this which seems to be the same story - https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/86967 - the nursing home wasn't reporting those deaths, the  the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) was and it was a data error.   Yes, it's possible some of the specific numbers aren't 100% accurate, but the main number I've always been concerned about was the total # of dead people, which they need death certificates for.   

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I like the new botcuck daily fact check that finds lod mostly correct.  Really saves time around here.

I will add that the shelved Ivermectin study was NOT shelved because the conclusions were any way false. Nor was researcher found to be in any way fraudulent.  Some if the data was found to be redundant.  The findings have not been discredited. 

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40 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

I will add that the shelved Ivermectin study was NOT shelved because the conclusions were any way false. Nor was researcher found to be in any way fraudulent.  Some if the data was found to be redundant.  The findings have not been discredited. 

That link was a meta analysis, which is basically a study of other studies.    Some of the "data" (AKA at least one of the studies the analysis was based on) was indeed fraudulent.

Interesting read here - https://gidmk.medium.com/is-ivermectin-for-covid-19-based-on-fraudulent-research-5cc079278602

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The problem is, if you look at those large, aggregate models, and remove just this single study, ivermectin loses almost all of its purported benefit. Take the

 recent meta-analysis by Bryant et al. that has been all over the news — they found a 62% reduction in risk of death for people who were treated with ivermectin compared to controls when combining randomized trials.

However, if you remove the Elgazzar paper from their model, and rerun it, the benefit goes from 62% to 52%, and largely loses its statistical significance. There’s no benefit seen whatsoever for people who have severe COVID-19, and the confidence intervals for people with mild and moderate disease become extremely wide.

Moreover, if you include another study that was published after the Bryant meta-analysis came out, which found no benefit for ivermectin on death, the benefits seen in the model entirely disappear. For another recent meta-analysis, simply excluding Elgazzar is enough to remove the positive effect entirely.

I actually think some additional studies have been found to be fraudulent as well - https://gidmk.medium.com/is-ivermectin-for-covid-19-based-on-fraudulent-research-part-2-a4475523b4e4

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On 8/11/2021 at 11:37 AM, lod001 said:

The CDC got busted by FL Health Dept, trying to double the actual # of cases. 

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/coronavirus/2021/08/10/florida-accuses-cdc-inflating-covid-numbers-cdc-changes-tally/5558411001/

It was no mistake. it was on purpose.

 

Looks like Florida responded by being misleading about their death reporting - https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article253796898.html

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i don't waste time with blowhard, clueless retard, tim hack shotard anymore. Yeah, you guys are right, he's Shotard.

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37 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Looks like Florida responded by being misleading about their death reporting - https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article253796898.html

"Misleading" ...I guess they were in cahoots with other states that did it that way?  It's so misleading that the article can't mention what other states are doing it?  Which deaths aren't gonna be counted?

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When you realize your jab juice is a miserable failure.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/08/31/why-pfizer-thinks-its-covid-vaccines-days-could-be/

Wow this needs to be read. It screams 'We've made as much as we could off this garbage, but this is winding down, we need to go to plan B before we get exposed'. 'the jab deaths are piling up.' "i'll start with saying "there may be a variant that our garbage is completely ineffective on." ' (He sees the writing on the wall). These guys are not retarded like shotard, they made billions scamming their failed BS.

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2 hours ago, Fireballer said:

"Misleading" ...I guess they were in cahoots with other states that did it that way?  It's so misleading that the article can't mention what other states are doing it?  Which deaths aren't gonna be counted?

What other states are doing it that way?  The way they’re doing it now will always show a huge decline over the last couple weeks.  Which screws up the whole country’s numbers really since right now Florida accounts for about 20% of all new covid deaths. 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/

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2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

What other states are doing it that way?  

Did you not read your own article? Your link says there are other states doing it. Why only mention Florida?  Looks like a nothing burger.

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6 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Did you not read your own article? Your link says there are other states doing it. Why only mention Florida?  Looks like a nothing burger.

Sorry, Alabama

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