TimHauck 2,922 Posted August 31, 2021 11 hours ago, Cdub100 said: Look at this USAtoday article on the case. https://archive.ph/6mHUe CINCINNATTI — A suburban Cincinnati woman, whose husband has been on a ventilator in the hospital with COVID-19, won a court order forcing the hospital to treat her husband's virus with an anti-parasitic treatment commonly used for livestock. The case is one of a handful nationwide where courts have sided with family members and forced doctors to use Ivermectin, which is unproven in the treatment of COVID-19 and is not recommended by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. It's no wonder people like Tim are easily lied to with sh1t like this. They have no idea about the dozens and dozens of studies that have shown its effectiveness. Hell Timmy won't even do his own research. He has to tag us 3 times on a Sunday to do it for him. We are in a sad state of affairs. I fear it's too late for this man. Ivermectin is best used early on with the onset of symptoms. Hope he pulls through. NY Post did the same thing: https://nypost.com/2021/08/30/ohio-judge-orders-covid-patient-be-treated-with-ivermectin/ "An Ohio judge on Monday ordered a hospital to treat a COVID-19 patient with ivermectin — an unproven virus treatment and livestock dewormer — going against CDC and FDA recommendations." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted August 31, 2021 34 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: If millions find out they had it with no symptoms. How are they supposed to sell their bullsh1t snake oil? Fixed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,374 Posted August 31, 2021 Way too much stupid in this thread. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted August 31, 2021 Israel breaks record for number of cases, proving the jabs don't work. https://www.ynetnews.com/health_science/article/bk3k1ujwf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted August 31, 2021 Why? I thought the jabs worked? Why would they test those jabbed? Asymptomatic spread has been proven to be a lie. https://theredzone.org/Blog-Description/EntryId/17421/Fully-vaccinated-NFL-players-will-get-COVID-19-tests-weekly Oh yeah, they crap doesn't work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,594 Posted August 31, 2021 35 minutes ago, Gepetto said: Way too much stupid in this thread. Well, we can't stop Tim from posting and he is the most prolific poster in this thread. So here we are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,374 Posted August 31, 2021 A couple my parents know both got Covid. The husband died. This was recently. The reason they didn't get vaccinated is they listened to the loud voices of random people and friends who were anti Covid vaccine and then didn't believe doctors; instead of listening to their doctors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted August 31, 2021 12 minutes ago, Strike said: Well, we can't stop Tim from posting and he is the most prolific poster in this thread. So here we are. I'm not the stupid one. You're not either. lod001 and TimmySmith exhibits A & B Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted August 31, 2021 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: I'm not the stupid one. You're not either. lod001 and TimmySmith exhibits A & B I made a list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted August 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I'm not the stupid one. You're not either. lod001 and TimmySmith exhibits A & B Says the tard I've destroyed in this thread from the get go. Seems the jabs don't make a difference at all. The unhealthy are still dropping dead at the same rate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,643 Posted August 31, 2021 @lod001 @TimmySmith make any sense? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted August 31, 2021 Ivermectin study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted August 31, 2021 25 minutes ago, Fireballer said: @lod001 @TimmySmith make any sense? One possibility is a PCR test that detected flu and they told him it was covid on 1st exposure. The other possibility and this would be really bad news for any that are jabbed. The jabs are weakening the immune system. This is not proven yet but Drs are discussing the possibility. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,620 Posted August 31, 2021 12 minutes ago, lod001 said: Ivermectin study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/ You realize that study was redacted because of plagiarism and making up data? https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02081-w Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted August 31, 2021 20 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said: You realize that study was redacted because of plagiarism and making up data? https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02081-w I did not. However that doesn't mean it doesn't work, since it does. D1ckhead was asking for as many articles on it as possible so I just saw it and posted it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted August 31, 2021 Speaking of misinformation. Get a load of this BS. https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/08/scientists-continue-to-push-false-info-about-benefits-of-covid-19-vaccine-in-people-who-had-covid/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted August 31, 2021 Good luck moderna recipients. Ya gonna need it. You play russian roulette every jab you take. https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/fda-issues-warning-about-increased-risk-heart-inflammation-caused-moderna-jab Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted August 31, 2021 Proof, the number of dead in 2020 is a lie. A NJ nursing home had <20 deaths, they reported 753. Busted. How many got away with the lies?. https://t.co/woYPZ3itT5?amp=1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,643 Posted August 31, 2021 25 minutes ago, lod001 said: Good luck moderna recipients. Ya gonna need it. You play russian roulette every jab you take. https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/fda-issues-warning-about-increased-risk-heart-inflammation-caused-moderna-jab So this is obviously less of a risk than Covid depending on age/comorbidities. This is lost on these "get the vaccine or be a murderer" zealots. If you're older and obese and think Covid could be a death sentence, sure take the risk. But when people are healthy 20 somethings or kids, just fuk the fuk off of when you start to tell me what to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,643 Posted August 31, 2021 10 minutes ago, lod001 said: Proof, the number of dead in 2020 is a lie. A NJ nursing home had <20 deaths, they reported 753. Busted. How many got away with the lies?. https://t.co/woYPZ3itT5?amp=1 I'm getting a Japan Moderna article with this link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,934 Posted August 31, 2021 1 hour ago, lod001 said: Good luck moderna recipients. Ya gonna need it. You play russian roulette every jab you take. https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/fda-issues-warning-about-increased-risk-heart-inflammation-caused-moderna-jab That's the one I got. Can't wait. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted August 31, 2021 3 hours ago, lod001 said: Says the tard I've destroyed in this thread from the get go. Seems the jabs don't make a difference at all. The unhealthy are still dropping dead at the same rate. Delta. It's more contagious, and probably more deadly. Many countries with low vaccination rates currently or recently have seen their highest deaths of the entire pandemic, which I've explained previously. 2 hours ago, Fireballer said: This is actually a little concerning. I agree the announcement of boosters seems rushed, since we don't have nearly as much data on that as the first 2 doses. 2 hours ago, lod001 said: One possibility is a PCR test that detected flu and they told him it was covid on 1st exposure. The other possibility and this would be really bad news for any that are jabbed. The jabs are weakening the immune system. This is not proven yet but Drs are discussing the possibility. Studies have shown that infected + vaccinated is actually better immunity than just natural infection. And stop with the PCR test lies. They don't detect flu as covid. But, considering he's saying it happened in 2019, he didn't get a PCR test since they didn't exist in the US, and like most people that claim they "had covid in 2019," he probably didn't. 1 hour ago, lod001 said: I did not. However that doesn't mean it doesn't work, since it does. D1ckhead was asking for as many articles on it as possible so I just saw it and posted it. No, I wasn't asking for "as many articles as possible." I was asking for one or a few good ones. Still waiting. 1 hour ago, lod001 said: Speaking of misinformation. Get a load of this BS. https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/08/scientists-continue-to-push-false-info-about-benefits-of-covid-19-vaccine-in-people-who-had-covid/ Here is the study in question: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1.full "In model 3, we matched 14,029 persons. Baseline characteristics of the groups are presented in Table 1b. Examining previously infected individuals to those who were both previously infected and received a single dose of the vaccine, we found that the latter group had a significant 0.53-fold (95% CI, 0.3 to 0.92) (Table 4a) decreased risk for reinfection, as 20 had a positive RT-PCR test, compared to 37 in the previously infected and unvaccinated group. Symptomatic disease was present in 16 single dose vaccinees and in 23 of their unvaccinated counterparts. One COVID-19-related hospitalization occurred in the unvaccinated previously infected group. No COVID-19-related mortality was recorded. We conducted a further sub-analysis, compelling the single-dose vaccine to be administered after the positive RT-PCR test. This subset represented 81% of the previously-infected-and-vaccinated study group. When performing this analysis, we found a similar, though not significant, trend of decreased risk of reinfection, with an OR of 0.68 (95% CI, 0.38 to 1.21, P-value=0.188)." So, as stated above, vaccinated + previously infected offers better immunity than unvaccinated and previously infected. So, I agree the Science article was misleading because it stated infected THEN vaccinated and the original finding did not specify that. The authors of the study did look at that and although that was the case 81% of the time in vaccinated + previously infected people and it technically showed an even better number, it wasn't statistically significant. 1 hour ago, lod001 said: Good luck moderna recipients. Ya gonna need it. You play russian roulette every jab you take. https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/fda-issues-warning-about-increased-risk-heart-inflammation-caused-moderna-jab Myocarditis is a documented and higher than expected side effect of the mRNA vaccines, but still rare. Considering Moderna and Pfizer are pretty similar but Moderna is a higher dosage, makes sense that it might be worse in Moderna. And I agree myocarditis is a reason why we need to make sure it's safe to offer third doses and to vaccinate children. 52 minutes ago, lod001 said: Proof, the number of dead in 2020 is a lie. A NJ nursing home had <20 deaths, they reported 753. Busted. How many got away with the lies?. https://t.co/woYPZ3itT5?amp=1 As noted, your link is wrong. I did find this which seems to be the same story - https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/86967 - the nursing home wasn't reporting those deaths, the the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) was and it was a data error. Yes, it's possible some of the specific numbers aren't 100% accurate, but the main number I've always been concerned about was the total # of dead people, which they need death certificates for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted August 31, 2021 I like the new botcuck daily fact check that finds lod mostly correct. Really saves time around here. I will add that the shelved Ivermectin study was NOT shelved because the conclusions were any way false. Nor was researcher found to be in any way fraudulent. Some if the data was found to be redundant. The findings have not been discredited. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted August 31, 2021 40 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: I will add that the shelved Ivermectin study was NOT shelved because the conclusions were any way false. Nor was researcher found to be in any way fraudulent. Some if the data was found to be redundant. The findings have not been discredited. That link was a meta analysis, which is basically a study of other studies. Some of the "data" (AKA at least one of the studies the analysis was based on) was indeed fraudulent. Interesting read here - https://gidmk.medium.com/is-ivermectin-for-covid-19-based-on-fraudulent-research-5cc079278602 Quote The problem is, if you look at those large, aggregate models, and remove just this single study, ivermectin loses almost all of its purported benefit. Take the recent meta-analysis by Bryant et al. that has been all over the news — they found a 62% reduction in risk of death for people who were treated with ivermectin compared to controls when combining randomized trials. However, if you remove the Elgazzar paper from their model, and rerun it, the benefit goes from 62% to 52%, and largely loses its statistical significance. There’s no benefit seen whatsoever for people who have severe COVID-19, and the confidence intervals for people with mild and moderate disease become extremely wide. Moreover, if you include another study that was published after the Bryant meta-analysis came out, which found no benefit for ivermectin on death, the benefits seen in the model entirely disappear. For another recent meta-analysis, simply excluding Elgazzar is enough to remove the positive effect entirely. I actually think some additional studies have been found to be fraudulent as well - https://gidmk.medium.com/is-ivermectin-for-covid-19-based-on-fraudulent-research-part-2-a4475523b4e4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted August 31, 2021 On 8/11/2021 at 11:37 AM, lod001 said: The CDC got busted by FL Health Dept, trying to double the actual # of cases. https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/coronavirus/2021/08/10/florida-accuses-cdc-inflating-covid-numbers-cdc-changes-tally/5558411001/ It was no mistake. it was on purpose. Looks like Florida responded by being misleading about their death reporting - https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article253796898.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted August 31, 2021 Probably just a coincidence. https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/cheryl-cohen-dies-rare-brain-disease-second-dose-pfizer-covid-shot/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=1f9fcd29-a8e2-4170-a9ec-f27f6b9f5f29 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted August 31, 2021 3 hours ago, Fireballer said: I'm getting a Japan Moderna article with this link https://www.rt.com/news/533431-japan-suspends-moderna-vaccine-contaminated/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted August 31, 2021 i don't waste time with blowhard, clueless retard, tim hack shotard anymore. Yeah, you guys are right, he's Shotard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,643 Posted August 31, 2021 37 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Looks like Florida responded by being misleading about their death reporting - https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article253796898.html "Misleading" ...I guess they were in cahoots with other states that did it that way? It's so misleading that the article can't mention what other states are doing it? Which deaths aren't gonna be counted? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted August 31, 2021 When you realize your jab juice is a miserable failure. https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/08/31/why-pfizer-thinks-its-covid-vaccines-days-could-be/ Wow this needs to be read. It screams 'We've made as much as we could off this garbage, but this is winding down, we need to go to plan B before we get exposed'. 'the jab deaths are piling up.' "i'll start with saying "there may be a variant that our garbage is completely ineffective on." ' (He sees the writing on the wall). These guys are not retarded like shotard, they made billions scamming their failed BS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted September 1, 2021 incredible. https://trialsitenews.com/get-sicker-anatomy-of-a-failed-policy/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted September 1, 2021 What a clusterfock this thread turned into Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted September 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Fireballer said: "Misleading" ...I guess they were in cahoots with other states that did it that way? It's so misleading that the article can't mention what other states are doing it? Which deaths aren't gonna be counted? What other states are doing it that way? The way they’re doing it now will always show a huge decline over the last couple weeks. Which screws up the whole country’s numbers really since right now Florida accounts for about 20% of all new covid deaths. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted September 1, 2021 Looks like Alabama may be doing it too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,643 Posted September 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, TimHauck said: What other states are doing it that way? Did you not read your own article? Your link says there are other states doing it. Why only mention Florida? Looks like a nothing burger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,922 Posted September 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Did you not read your own article? Your link says there are other states doing it. Why only mention Florida? Looks like a nothing burger. Sorry, Alabama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted September 1, 2021 Wuhan, China Never Forget Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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