nobody 2,052 Posted January 17, 2021 He probably wasn't running very fast with those binoculars on his face. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,806 Posted January 17, 2021 LA Times articles starting to sound a little more positive: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-01-16/light-at-the-end-of-tunnel-or-small-blip-flattening-covid-19-numbers-bring-hope Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,237 Posted January 18, 2021 330000 doses tossed due to sever allergic reactions in San Diego. Everyone else first so I won't need this toxin pumped into my system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,858 Posted January 18, 2021 On 1/17/2021 at 7:25 AM, TimHauck said: LA Times articles starting to sound a little more positive: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-01-16/light-at-the-end-of-tunnel-or-small-blip-flattening-covid-19-numbers-bring-hope I had dinner with a friend over the weekend who I had not seen for a couple years. He works on the COVID floor of his hospital. His job is to get prepare patients for discharge from the hospital. He told me that things have been much better recently but November was terrible. They were full and people were dying every day. It's been incredibly stressful for him as he would see couples come in together with COVID and many of them would get discharge by themselves because one had passed away. This was the first time him and his wife had been out to eat since last March. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,806 Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, lod001 said: 330000 doses tossed due to sever allergic reactions in San Diego. Everyone else first so I won't need this toxin pumped into my system. I don’t see that they were “tossed,” just “paused” https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/states-top-doctor-recommends-covid-19-vaccine-providers-pause-certain-batch-after-allergic-reactions-at-tailgate-park/2498536/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted January 18, 2021 Just got my haircut. Didn't wear a mask. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,390 Posted January 18, 2021 48 minutes ago, NorthernVike said: Just got my haircut. Didn't wear a mask. Can I have your user name when you die? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,715 Posted January 18, 2021 Looks like Alex Berenson was right about it all. No wonder the failing NYT got rid of him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,806 Posted January 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Looks like Alex Berenson was right about it all. Why? Did he take the over on 400k deaths? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,587 Posted January 19, 2021 Miami Fl is thriving. Most other places are dying. Sad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,715 Posted January 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Why? Did he take the over on 400k deaths? No. He was right that many of those deaths were easily preventable by not locking down. Lock down a made it worse. The guy should get a Pulitzer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,806 Posted January 19, 2021 46 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: No. He was right that many of those deaths were easily preventable by not locking down. Lock down a made it worse. The guy should get a Pulitzer. Link? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,806 Posted January 19, 2021 47 minutes ago, Strike said: Worth pointing out once again that many of those job losses would have happened anyway regardless of what restrictions were put in place. The author even notes this, and in fact lockdowns are not even referenced in that Abstract (although they are later). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gutterboys Flip Flops 103 Posted January 19, 2021 Have they decided when they will mandate lowering the Ct rate back to the scientific norm of 25 ? This way we can pretend measure taken have made the difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted January 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, Gutterboys Flip Flops said: Have they decided when they will mandate lowering the Ct rate back to the scientific norm of 25 ? This way we can pretend measure taken have made the difference. Come on, 35 to 40 gets you a positive result almost every time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drizzay 647 Posted January 19, 2021 2 hours ago, TimHauck said: Worth pointing out once again that many of those deaths would have happened anyway regardless of what restrictions were put in place. The author even notes this, and in fact lockdowns are not even referenced in that Abstract (although they are later). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,806 Posted January 19, 2021 8 hours ago, Drizzay said: I’ve maintained that there shouldn’t have been very strict lockdowns after the first month or so (and in a lot of places there weren’t). But I have zero doubt that simple restrictions like having no large crowds at clubs, concerts or indoor sporting events likely prevented many deaths. But this is at least a better argument than “lockdowns” made covid deaths worse which is crazy talk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted January 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I’ve maintained that there shouldn’t have been very strict lockdowns after the first month or so (and in a lot of places there weren’t). But I have zero doubt that simple restrictions like having no large crowds at clubs, concerts or indoor sporting events likely prevented many deaths. But this is at least a better argument than “lockdowns” made covid deaths worse which is crazy talk. Meh, there is no proof of any of it. Weren't we all told that lockdowns would distribute cases over time, not eliminate them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,806 Posted January 19, 2021 Drizzay, are you acknowledging that covid resulted in many excess deaths? Sorry, hard to keep up with who believes what conspiracy theories around here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,806 Posted January 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: Meh, there is no proof of any of it. Weren't we all told that lockdowns would distribute cases over time, not eliminate them? If you’re talking “cases,” that’s probably mostly true, however slowing down the initial spike gave the country more time to learn about the virus and of course not overwhelm the health care system (in many areas, of course in some that happened anyway), which would have resulted in more both covid and non covid deaths. We also have a vaccine now, and I believe current estimates on the high end are only maybe 20% of the country has had covid so far. So the vaccine will save lives by vaccinating people that haven’t caught it yet (even if it means maybe they still catch it but don’t get seriously ill). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted January 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Drizzay, are you acknowledging that covid resulted in many excess deaths? Sorry, hard to keep up with who believes what conspiracy theories around here. So true. I hear people are still buying into the "wet market " lie. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted January 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, TimHauck said: If you’re talking “cases,” that’s probably mostly true, however slowing down the initial spike gave the country more time to learn about the virus and of course not overwhelm the health care system (in many areas, of course in some that happened anyway), which would have resulted in more both covid and non covid deaths. We also have a vaccine now, and I believe current estimates on the high end are only maybe 20% of the country has had covid so far. So the vaccine will save lives by vaccinating people that haven’t caught it yet (even if it means maybe they still catch it but don’t get seriously ill). The fact that there isn't massive antibody testing is a crime. Isn't it of supreme importance to have that data? The conspiracy theories to which I subscribe are all based on what I feel is an intentional ignorance of that data. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,281 Posted January 19, 2021 The goal was to get Trump out of office. Now that that's done, I have to imagine life gets back to normal in the next few months. We all know that this virus is not a threat to over 99% of us. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,806 Posted January 19, 2021 48 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: So true. I hear people are still buying into the "wet market " lie. I'd believe it was man-made. I don't believe they intentionally released it though. 44 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: The fact that there isn't massive antibody testing is a crime. Isn't it of supreme importance to have that data? Fair argument. Although it does seem like it's pretty available for those who want it, but many have just chosen not to get it. And we know how "strongly encouraging" people to do things has gone over during this pandemic... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,806 Posted January 19, 2021 38 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: The goal was to get Trump out of office. Now that that's done, I have to imagine life gets back to normal in the next few months. We all know that this virus is not a threat to over 99% of us. Whose goal? China? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted January 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Fair argument. Although it does seem like it's pretty available for those who want it, but many have just chosen not to get it. And we know how "strongly encouraging" people to do things has gone over during this pandemic... It's available for private consumption. It should be heavily promoted and supported more. These are numbers that are the most important to establishing exactly where we are from a scientific standpoint. Why would the party of science not be screaming for this data? Obviously because of what it might contain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,281 Posted January 19, 2021 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: Whose goal? China? No, the Democrats, that's why you saw more lockdowns in D States v R States. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted January 19, 2021 4 hours ago, GutterBoy said: The goal was to get Trump out of office. Now that that's done, I have to imagine life gets back to normal in the next few months. We all know that this virus is not a threat to over 99% of us. The goal is total power. Once we accept any level of control, they will never give it up. They can now make a case the extend the lockdowns forever by claiming there is a mutation of covid or right wing riots. The next step is to roll out a BIG or some kind of monthly stipend. This is a police state. Reeducation camps are being threatened now. If you have a job, they already force you into a reeducation program about politics. Look at FBG. Once the liberals there realized they could ban people and get away it, they started targeting all of the right wingers. Just make up any reason they want. "It is what it is". It didn't stop because they got rid of the big targets. Pretty soon it was anyone showing right wing tendencies. Do you think you will EVER be hired for a big job again and not get a battery of tests to determine if you are a republican, and not require hours of political reeducation to make sure you goose step? Its not going to stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 864 Posted January 19, 2021 4 hours ago, GutterBoy said: The goal was to get Trump out of office. Now that that's done, I have to imagine life gets back to normal in the next few months. We all know that this virus is not a threat to over 99% of us. jwatching the headlines shift in the coming days will be pure entertainment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,237 Posted January 19, 2021 2 hours ago, GutterBoy said: No, the Democrats, that's why you saw more lockdowns in D States v R States. China as well. Trump was in their way. Biden will get on his knees for them and suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,237 Posted January 19, 2021 31 minutes ago, JustinCharge said: Look at FBG. Once the liberals there realized they could ban people and get away it, they started targeting all of the right wingers. Just make up any reason they want. "It is what it is". It didn't stop because they got rid of the big targets. Pretty soon it was anyone showing right wing tendencies. Do you think you will EVER be hired for a big job again and not get a battery of tests to determine if you are a republican, and not require hours of political reeducation to make sure you goose step? Its not going to stop. The cesspool is a microcosm of America. Quite the experiment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,281 Posted January 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, porkbutt said: jwatching the headlines shift in the coming days will be pure entertainment They already have. It was "EVERYONE WILL BE DEAD! DONT LEAVE THE HOUSE!" from pre thanksgiving up until Jan 6. Then it became "TRUMP COUP!" I'm guessing once he's gone it will be "BIDEN FIXES EVERYTHING!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,392 Posted January 19, 2021 4 hours ago, TimmySmith said: It's available for private consumption. It should be heavily promoted and supported more. These are numbers that are the most important to establishing exactly where we are from a scientific standpoint. Why would the party of science not be screaming for this data? Obviously because of what it might contain. If people knew theyre positive for antibodies, mask wearing would plummet. Can't have that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted January 19, 2021 Just now, Fireballer said: If people knew theyre positive for antibodies, mask wearing would plummet. Can't have that. And they would open restaurants, bars, (God forbid)Schools. Not good for business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,858 Posted January 19, 2021 35 minutes ago, lod001 said: The cesspool is a microcosm of America. Quite the experiment. This is also a cesspool. The unhinged has flipped from the left to the right now. It's almost comical that so many can't even see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,715 Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: This is also a cesspool. The unhinged has flipped from the left to the right now. It's almost comical that so many can't even see it. Example, besides civil war guy, of the unhinged around here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted January 19, 2021 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: Example, besides civil war guy, of the unhinged around here? cucks idea of hinged. 461606.jpg (599×500) (imgflip.com) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,715 Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, TimmySmith said: cucks idea of hinged. 461606.jpg (599×500) (imgflip.com) Oh, he’ll say that’s ridiculous. He’s a centrist don’t ya know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites