Strike 5,628 Posted May 7, 2020 Written remarks from two doctors who testified to congress today: https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Testimony-Ioannidis-2020-05-06.pdf https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Testimony-Atlas-2020-05-06.pdf Actual facts that people should read and understand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted May 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, Strike said: Written remarks from two doctors who testified to congress today: https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Testimony-Ioannidis-2020-05-06.pdf https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Testimony-Atlas-2020-05-06.pdf Actual facts that people should read and understand. Did you not want to show testimony from all speakers? https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/covid-19-how-new-information-should-drive-policy For example, here is someone from John Hopkins - https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Testimony-Inglesby-2020-05-06.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,628 Posted May 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: Did you not want to show testimony from all speakers? https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/covid-19-how-new-information-should-drive-policy For example, here is someone from John Hopkins - https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Testimony-Inglesby-2020-05-06.pdf Can't post things I wasn't aware of. Not sure what your point is though. I didn't watch the video in your first link because those tend to be long winded. If there's something important in it feel free to post it. The second link doesn't say anything that contradicts the links I posted; just adds some additional information but most of it isn't as specific as the links I posted. I found the links I posted significant because they document stats I've been wanting but aren't publicized by the media for some reason: - The fatality rate, based upon numerous studies, is between 0.1 and 0.4 percent, much lower than early estimates (Shoutout to SuperMike!!). - Illness and death are heavily slanted towards elderly people and people with other health issues. - Younger, healthy people are at almost zero risk from this virus. Dr. Atlas' comments are especially interesting. I'll admit I'm biased because I would follow his reopening "plan" to the letter. It's exactly what I think should be done. It's also worth noting that EVERY one of those links (other than the video which I haven't watched so can't say) suggests we should be reopening society. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted May 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Strike said: Can't post things I wasn't aware of. Not sure what your point is though. I didn't watch the video in your first link because those tend to be long winded. If there's something important in it feel free to post it. The second link doesn't say anything that contradicts the links I posted; just adds some additional information but most of it isn't as specific as the links I posted. I found the links I posted significant because they document stats I've been wanting but aren't publicized by the media for some reason: - The fatality rate, based upon numerous studies, is between 0.1 and 0.4 percent, much lower than early estimates (Shoutout to SuperMike!!). - Illness and death are heavily slanted towards elderly people and people with other health issues. - Younger, healthy people are at almost zero risk from this virus. Dr. Atlas' comments are especially interesting. I'll admit I'm biased because I would follow his reopening "plan" to the letter. It's exactly what I think should be done. It's also worth noting that EVERY one of those links (other than the video which I haven't watched so can't say) suggests we should be reopening society. You don't have to watch the video. Below the video is the link to each person's testimony which is not really facts, but opinion. I do think that we should be opening society as is happening, but it should not just be done without any considerations to what is going on in each locality. The Federal government already provided some guidance that people were supposed to be following, but it has been largely ignored by states. Why would we think that anything these guys say would make a difference in that? Let's come up with some other set of guidelines that no one will follow? One thing that I did not understand was the reasoning for opening schools (K-12). Most schools are done for the year, so what benefit does that provide? Focus on being able to open up in the fall and figure out how summer camps and the like will be handled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,648 Posted May 8, 2020 "China Virus" is hate speech in San Antonio... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted May 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, Fireballer said: "China Virus" is hate speech in San Antonio... I've heard a lot of people calling it the Trumpvirus too. I think both are wrong. It's Covid-19. People don't need to rename it based on China's or Trump's failures for political reasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old School 360 Posted May 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Fireballer said: "China Virus" is hate speech in San Antonio... Don’t neglect the fact people are “encouraged to report that speech to authorities.” That is focked up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,519 Posted May 8, 2020 Palm Beach Florida to open on Monday , with restrictions . Man Florida did a great job with this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted May 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Palm Beach Florida to open on Monday , with restrictions . Man Florida did a great job with this. If other governors instructed their medical examiners to withhold coronavirus death figures their states would be doing great also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,519 Posted May 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Observer said: If other governors instructed their medical examiners to withhold coronavirus death figures their states would be doing great also. I guess we will see a big spike then. Stay tuned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,624 Posted May 8, 2020 4 hours ago, Old School said: Don’t neglect the fact people are “encouraged to report that speech to authorities.” That is focked up Doesn't the 1st amendment override anything that little libtard city does? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,624 Posted May 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I guess we will see a big spike then. Stay tuned. Other than being bored as hell you wouldn't even of known a pandemic was going on. Maybe in Miami it was a little different but in civilized Central Florida everything was ok. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted May 8, 2020 44 minutes ago, The Observer said: If other governors instructed their medical examiners to withhold coronavirus death figures their states would be doing great also. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted May 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Reality said: It's the deaths that he's hiding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Intense Observer 344 Posted May 8, 2020 https://mobile.twitter.com/LegendaryEnergy/status/1258082682078142464 Fauci says there is no reason to wear masks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted May 8, 2020 28 minutes ago, The Observer said: It's the deaths that he's hiding. You should reflect on what you've become. Sad. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,311 Posted May 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Florida did a great job with this. There really is a first time for everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,876 Posted May 8, 2020 On 5/7/2020 at 9:29 AM, The Observer said: A 17 Page CDC guide to reopening the country written by scientists and experts to avoid infections and deaths and completed last week, will never see the light of day. A decision made by the Trump administration. https://apnews.com/7a00d5fba3249e573d2ead4bd323a4d4 From your link: Quote A person close to the White House’s coronavirus task force said the CDC documents were never cleared by CDC leadership for public release. The person said White House officials have refrained from offering detailed guidance for how specific sectors should reopen because the virus is affecting various parts of the country differently. The person spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations. Asked Thursday about the CDC report, White House coronavirus adviser Dr. Deborah Birx said: “No one has stopped those guidelines. We’re still in editing.” She told CNN, ”It was more about simplification.” It goes on to call it the "shelved report." Objective reporting by the AP there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Intense Observer 344 Posted May 9, 2020 1 hour ago, jerryskids said: From your link: It goes on to call it the "shelved report." Objective reporting by the AP there. It is amazing how the retards all have the same talking points. Some dipshite reporter asked the lovely Kayleigh about that in today's press conference and she basically said that "CDC report" is from some rogue employee and not an official CDC recommendation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Intense Observer 344 Posted May 9, 2020 The US if divided by Rona cases into thirds Thanks NYC, Yankees, and shithole liberal cities in the Midwest. The other 85% of the country killed its economy for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted May 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Intense Observer said: The US if divided by Rona cases into thirds Thanks NYC, Yankees, and shithole liberal cities in the Midwest. The other 85% of the country killed its economy for you. You missed the key item - so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,612 Posted May 9, 2020 Mayah Mahty Walsh pretty much closed Boston until after labor day. What a focking putz Boston cancels parades, festivals through Labor Day citing coronavirus public health crisis Boston Mayor Marty Walsh on Friday announced that the city will not host any parades or festivals this summer, through at least Labor Day, because of the ongoing coronavirus outbreak. The mayor called it a public health decision. "If you have an event that brings crowds together in close contact--like a concert, a road race, a flag raising--you should start looking at alternatives now," Walsh said. "This is a public health decision and it is the right decision." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted May 9, 2020 13 minutes ago, Intense Observer said: The US if divided by Rona cases into thirds Thanks NYC, Yankees, and shithole liberal cities in the Midwest. The other 85% of the country killed its economy for you. No they killed their economy so they didn't suffer the same fate. Hth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,876 Posted May 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, The Observer said: No they killed their economy so they didn't suffer the same fate. Hth Umm... yeah. Anyway, I'm hella surprised (and by surprised I mean impressed, although I'll never admit it) that LA and SF didn't fock this up somehow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted May 9, 2020 I think this needs to be said again. We shutdown America to 'flatten the curve', aka not have an uber spike in cases and over-run our hospitals. At that time most everyone agreed. We did that......Great job America. So why are we still in quarantine? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted May 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: I think this needs to be said again. We shutdown America to 'flatten the curve', aka not have an uber spike in cases and over-run our hospitals. At that time most everyone agreed. We did that......Great job America. So why are we still in quarantine? When there was the initial quarantine, did you expect that it would we would just flip a switch and be open just like before? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted May 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: When there was the initial quarantine, did you expect that it would we would just flip a switch and be open just like before? Of course not, it should be a sunrise, not a flip switch. I'm in NC. It's not bad here, but wer'e barely even starting to re-open. Uber baby steps. I cannot roll my eyes big enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,519 Posted May 9, 2020 50 minutes ago, Intense Observer said: The US if divided by Rona cases into thirds Thanks NYC, Yankees, and shithole liberal cities in the Midwest. The other 85% of the country killed its economy for you. It’s China’s fault. Let’s remember that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted May 9, 2020 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: It’s China’s fault. Let’s remember that. Well, not according to China and the left wing media. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted May 9, 2020 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: It’s everyone except Trump's fault. Let’s remember that. There you go. You can say the words. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted May 9, 2020 1 hour ago, jerryskids said: From your link: It goes on to call it the "shelved report." Objective reporting by the AP there. The new press liar Kayleigh something said it was never approved by a CDC leader. That was a lie. CDC director Robert Redfield signed off on it. It was ready for the public. Trump nixed it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,876 Posted May 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Observer said: The new press liar Kayleigh something said it was never approved by a CDC leader. That was a lie. CDC director Robert Redfield signed off on it. It was ready for the public. Trump nixed it. I quoted your own link which said that CDC leadership hadn't approved it. I'm sorry if your own link hurts. Do you have a new link which refutes your recent link? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,519 Posted May 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Observer said: The new press liar Kayleigh something said it was never approved by a CDC leader. That was a lie. CDC director Robert Redfield signed off on it. It was ready for the public. Trump nixed it. Sounds like another hoax. Aren’t you a bit tired of falling for this kind of stuff over and over? You are the target , but still, try and apply skepticism. Remember the Pee-pee tape and how you fell for that fairy tale? Stop being the mark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted May 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I quoted your own link which said that CDC leadership hadn't approved it. I'm sorry if your own link hurts. Do you have a new link which refutes your recent link? The news I just have you is from today. Feel free to do the leg work. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted May 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I quoted your own link which said that CDC leadership hadn't approved it. I'm sorry if your own link hurts. Do you have a new link which refutes your recent link? Here you go. Only because I like you. And making an ass out of Hardcore a dozen times a day. https://apnews.com/9c4d5284ba4769d3b98aa05232201f88 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted May 9, 2020 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: Ha! Owned. So funny. Ooops. Lol. You poor bastard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted May 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, The Observer said: Here you go. Only because I like you. And making an ass out of Hardcore a dozen times a day. https://apnews.com/9c4d5284ba4769d3b98aa05232201f88 Nothing, huh Hardcore? After pounding your chest and running your mouth? Let me guess, you finally found time to play with the kids. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,519 Posted May 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, The Observer said: Nothing, huh Hardcore? After pounding your chest and running your mouth? Let me guess, you finally found time to play with the kids. Why arE you so afraid of Skids? You’re very deferential towards him. You’re intimidated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,914 Posted May 9, 2020 Roy of Sigfried and Roy....dead from Covid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites