Hardcore troubadour 15,907 Posted June 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, drobeski said: Did he ? Lol Yup. Disgusting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,172 Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, Patriotsfatboy1 said: Either that or go buy a flamethrower. Sounds fun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12th Man 884 Posted June 2, 2020 Please watch and share this with everyone. Wow! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,676 Posted June 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Alias Detective said: The black vote is of high quality. Look who you libs are relying on. Bwahahahahah https://www.hrw.org/legacy/reports/2000/usa/Table6.pdf Look at all those northern and midwest states with higher ratios. Led by racist Wash DC! How dare a black run city incarcerate black men like that. By reading newbies posts about racists in Georgia, you woulda thought those rednecks down there would stack blacks in jail like fire wood. Nope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joneo 561 Posted June 2, 2020 On 6/1/2020 at 6:56 AM, Fireballer said: Karma is undefeated I Would have done my best Smokey the Bear stomp to put out those flames. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,737 Posted June 2, 2020 30 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: I own a 20 gauge shotgun I've had forever, it was my little self defense gun. I've been thinking of adding another, any suggestions? Get yourself an AR. Contrary to what the anti-gun crowd would have you believe, it's a very versatile platform. Can be used for plinking, hunting and home defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casual Observer 597 Posted June 2, 2020 42 minutes ago, The Observer said: You still don't get it. You're a hopeless case. No, I get it - you're an idiot. Plus you keep trying to shift the focus of criticism leveled against you. Truly the Baron. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted June 3, 2020 Just now, Casual Observer said: No, I get it - you're an idiot. Plus you keep trying to shift the focus of criticism leveled against you. Truly the Baron. If you don't think black voter turnout is a major key to who wins the election, then you're simply an idiot and I can't help you. Hth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted June 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Casual Observer said: No, I get it - you're an idiot. Plus you keep trying to shift the focus of criticism leveled against you. Truly the Baron. I wonder how many black people died unlawfully at the hands of the police over the past 10 years. I wouldn't mind comparing that number with some statistics around black crime in that time period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casual Observer 597 Posted June 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, The Observer said: If you don't think black voter turnout is a major key to who wins the election, then you're simply an idiot and I can't help you. Hth Stop shifting things to black voter turnout. I never said a thing about black voter turnout. I said if Trump isn't going to gain votes anyway, then there's no sense in posting about it. It's my second post on page 52 of this thread. The point was, because you're apparently too stupid to understand, that you focking post too much worthless stuff on here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,172 Posted June 3, 2020 16 minutes ago, 5-Points said: Get yourself an AR. Contrary to what the anti-gun crowd would have you believe, it's a very versatile platform. Can be used for plinking, hunting and home defense. I have a shotgun, looking at a back up hand gun. I'm not a gun aficionado and don't care to be, just a dude. After a cursory search looking at a Glock-19 9mm with hollow points for stopping power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted June 3, 2020 Just now, KSB2424 said: After a cursory search looking at a Glock-19 9mm with hollow points for stopping power. I'm in the same boat as you and that's what I ended up getting. Came with a couple clips, keep the defense rounds ready to go in one. It's a bit much for my wife to load and ready tho. The shotgun should be the go to. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,329 Posted June 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: I have a shotgun, looking at a back up hand gun. I'm not a gun aficionado and don't care to be, just a dude. After a cursory search looking at a Glock-19 9mm with hollow points for stopping power. Already picked up S&W M&P 2.0 9mm, S&W M&P 2.0 45 ACP, Sig P320 XFull 9mm and I got a S&W M&P 2.0 9mm Performance Center on the way. Got about 8K 9mm ammo and 2.5K 45 ACP. Looking to pick up a shotgun next. Probably this one: https://gunprime.com/products/mos-930spx-12m185cb-gr-ct-pg 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,676 Posted June 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, Casual Observer said: The point was, because you're apparently too stupid to understand, that you focking post too much worthless stuff on here. Yep. Hes been eaten up with the law stuff the last few weeks in which is a really ignorant. Hes a lost cause, but his troll game has been decent lately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted June 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, 12th Man said: Just about to link. They are the enemy, good America will win. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,737 Posted June 3, 2020 26 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: I have a shotgun, looking at a back up hand gun. I'm not a gun aficionado and don't care to be, just a dude. After a cursory search looking at a Glock-19 9mm with hollow points for stopping power. I hear ya. If you aren't planning on carrying it, a handgun is probably not optimal. However, if that's the way you're leaning, a G19 is a decent option for the $. Rifles, of any kind, are better for accuracy, especially for the casual shooter. If you decide to go with the Glock, I'd recommend taking a shooting class of some sort and go to the range as often as you can. Either way, let us know if/when you pick it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,907 Posted June 3, 2020 Just about when everything in this country will swing in the minorities favor, white people will become the minority. Then we’ll see who the racists really are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,172 Posted June 3, 2020 23 minutes ago, 5-Points said: I hear ya. If you aren't planning on carrying it, a handgun is probably not optimal. However, if that's the way you're leaning, a G19 is a decent option for the $. Rifles, of any kind, are better for accuracy, especially for the casual shooter. If you decide to go with the Glock, I'd recommend taking a shooting class of some sort and go to the range as often as you can. Either way, let us know if/when you pick it up. Okay, looking further. Going away from the handgun. My old double barrel 20 gauge shotgun with bird shot isn't enough. I've had it since I was a teenager when I'd go dove hunting with my dad. She's in beautiful condition, will keep it and give it to my son when he's old enough (11 now). Looking at a 12 gauge pump Semi-Auto. Something like the Mossburg 500 series. https://www.mossberg.com/product/590a1-9-shot-51660/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted June 3, 2020 Retired police officer trying to protect a pawn shop. Newbie, this make you proud ? Your team satisfied or do you need more destruction and death ? That's your team buddy. Think about that.... loser 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,676 Posted June 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: Okay, looking further. Going away from the handgun. My old double barrel 20 gauge shotgun with bird shot isn't enough. I've had it since I was a teenager when I'd go dove hunting with my dad. She's in beautiful condition, will keep it and give it to my son when he's old enough (11 now). Looking at a 12 gauge pump Semi-Auto. Something like the Mossburg 500 series. https://www.mossberg.com/product/590a1-9-shot-51660/ Nothing wrong with a Mossberg 500. I have several now have bought/sold several. Very dependable model. I cant imagine how many thousands of 500s are out there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 2,031 Posted June 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, drobeski said: Retired police officer trying to protect a pawn shop. Newbie, this make you proud ? Your team satisfied or do you need more destruction and death ? That's your team buddy. Think about that.... loser Damn, that’s focking terrible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,676 Posted June 3, 2020 I dont have time right now to unpack all of this Twitter thread, but on the surface, it lends itself to exposing the false narrative further. My immediate thought was "what about non violent crime"? He says his data includes all deaths as violent crime, so no issue there. Maybe Newbie can tweet at him and get him straight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,172 Posted June 3, 2020 23 minutes ago, drobeski said: Retired police officer trying to protect a pawn shop. Newbie, this make you proud ? Your team satisfied or do you need more destruction and death ? That's your team buddy. Think about that.... loser Good Lord. WTF? I didn't like watching the Floyd video and was sad, but this right here makes me angry. Anybody still worried about some smoke canisters, tear gas and rubber bullets trying to restore order to our American cities can eat a dik. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,433 Posted June 3, 2020 11 minutes ago, Fireballer said: I dont have time right now to unpack all of this Twitter thread, but on the surface, it lends itself to exposing the false narrative further. My immediate thought was "what about non violent crime"? He says his data includes all deaths as violent crime, so no issue there. Maybe Newbie can tweet at him and get him straight. Same data as before. 20% of those who died had “unknown” race. Not sure where the arrests numbers came from, though. This is another situation (like COVID death rate) where having shitty data hurts us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,451 Posted June 3, 2020 7 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: If the cops 18 complaints is fair game so is Floyd’s violent past. We should always seek the truth, right? I'd asked another poster what was it in Floyd's past that was violent, not that it's terribly relevant, he got stuck with a fake $20 and tried to pass it off on somebody else. It's one step worse than jaywalking and two steps worse than selling loosie cigartettes which doesn't even register as wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,433 Posted June 3, 2020 26 minutes ago, drobeski said: Retired police officer trying to protect a pawn shop. Newbie, this make you proud ? Your team satisfied or do you need more destruction and death ? That's your team buddy. Think about that.... loser Focking crazy. Sick of the stupidity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,172 Posted June 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: Same data as before. 20% of those who died had “unknown” race. Not sure where the arrests numbers came from, though. This is another situation (like COVID death rate) where having shitty data hurts us. Either way, its not some grotesque, systematic epidemic. And its definitely NOT what the MSM and social media would lead you to believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,433 Posted June 3, 2020 1 minute ago, KSB2424 said: Either way, its not some grotesque, systematic epidemic. And its definitely NOT what the MSM and social media would lead you to believe. Not sure about the MSM, but I don’t give much credence to social media. However, I do agree that there is not much data to support the notion that blacks are singled out by police. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,907 Posted June 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, Voltaire said: I'd asked another poster what was it in Floyd's past that was violent, not that it's terribly relevant, he got stuck with a fake $20 and tried to pass it off on somebody else. It's one step worse than jaywalking and two steps worse than selling loosie cigartettes which doesn't even register as wrong. Loosies are no big deal unless he’s selling them in front of your business that also sells cigarettes and you ask him to stop and he tells you to Fock off and intimidates you enough that you not only call the police, you call the Boro presidents office and they tell the cops to take care of it. Garner felt like fighting instead of going to the station house and getting his BS desk appearance ticket. There’s always more to the story, trust me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,329 Posted June 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: Not sure about the MSM, but I don’t give much credence to social media. However, I do agree that there is not much data to support the notion that blacks are singled out by police. in fact, whites are killed by police at more than twice the rate of blacks: https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/ The liberal media and celebrities are pushing a fake narrative that blacks are being singled out. When was the last time you heard of a white man killed by black cops? When white people rioted and looted in the streets over it? Never. White people killed by the police and/or black cops happens a lot. But that's not what the MSM wants you to believe. The goal is Socialism - this fake narrative advances that goal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,172 Posted June 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: However, I do agree that there is not much data to support the notion that blacks are singled out by police. Agree, and we are asking the right questions. It's more to do with why are there so many Police to Black interactions opposed to other races per population. Why? Well why is because they commit more crimes than all other races? Why? Poverty? Drug laws? Fatherless families? And yes, there is probably an element (much smaller than people are suggesting) of racism, poor policing. Now we are getting to root causes....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,451 Posted June 3, 2020 7 hours ago, The Observer said: Yes there was, Just because you know how horrible something is, doesn't mean you can just pretend it never happened. This isn't Ukraine extortion. Speaking of pretending you didn't know Ukraine extortion happened. This post isn't like stepping in dog poo, more like falling in a septic tank. Trump suggested the Ukrainians investigate Biden because he had evidence Biden had committed a crime. Now it turns out the Ukranians have re-opened the investigation and found similar evidence that Biden had commited the crime. The Democrats tried to impeach Trump for investigating a crime and now want to replace him with the guy who commited the crime. The criminality ratio in the Ukraine scandal is Biden 100%, Trump 0%. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,329 Posted June 3, 2020 1 minute ago, KSB2424 said: Agree, and we are asking the right questions. It's more to do with why are there so many Police to Black interactions opposed to other races per population. Why? Well why is because they commit more crimes than all other races? Why? Poverty? Drug laws? Fatherless families? And yes, there is probably an element (much smaller than people are suggesting) of racism, poor policing. Now we are getting to root causes....... i think the biggest of them is the fatherless families. When the Democrats gave women, and black women specifically, money to keep the men out of their lives the single mother rate went from about 30% to about 70% today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted June 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Voltaire said: Speaking of pretending you didn't know Ukraine extortion happened. This post isn't like stepping in dog poo, more like falling in a septic tank. Trump suggested the Ukrainians investigate Biden because he had evidence Biden had committed a crime. Now it turns out the Ukranians have re-opened the investigation and found similar evidence that Biden had commited the crime. The Democrats tried to impeach Trump for investigating a crime and now want to replace him with the guy who commited the crime. The criminality ratio in the Ukraine scandal is Biden 100%, Trump 0%. He's clueless to the truth. Wasting your time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,172 Posted June 3, 2020 17 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: i think the biggest of them is the fatherless families. When the Democrats gave women, and black women specifically, money to keep the men out of their lives the single mother rate went from about 30% to about 70% today. I'd argue super strict drug laws of the past few decades are a reason why as well. Young father gets busted with weed a couple times, ends up in jail, in the drug game and is no longer there for his kids. There are so many nuances and its much deeper than "White police hate blacks!@#!" That is such a binary, easy thought process that will lead to nothing. It just makes people feel better to yell it at a protest or post it on facebook. ETA: Also to your point, and I have not looked this up, but I would bet that American Asians have a smaller divorce and fatherless rate than not only blacks but whites too. Another race, different than whites ,who thrive in America. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,907 Posted June 3, 2020 Just now, KSB2424 said: I'd agree drug laws of the past few decades are a reason why as well. Young father gets busted with weed a couple times, ends up in jail, in the drug game and is no longer there for his kids. There are so many nuances and its much deeper than "White police hate blacks!@#!" That is such a binary, easy thought process that will lead to nothing. It just makes people feel better to yell it at a protest or post it on facebook. Weed? Jail? Where? What, a few hours in the holding cell? Come on man. No one stays in jail for weed. Hasn’t been the case for a long, long time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,433 Posted June 3, 2020 15 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: Agree, and we are asking the right questions. It's more to do with why are there so many Police to Black interactions opposed to other races per population. Why? Well why is because they commit more crimes than all other races? Why? Poverty? Drug laws? Fatherless families? And yes, there is probably an element (much smaller than people are suggesting) of racism, poor policing. Now we are getting to root causes....... The reasons for why blacks have a higher crime rate is the holy grail. The reality is that it is all of those and then some (gang culture, distrust of police, etc.) as far as I can guess. Then we need to know how to help resolve those issues and those in power need to be willing to work on those changes with the black community. I don’t see either side working towards that. Just a lot of pointing fingers and SOS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,451 Posted June 3, 2020 7 hours ago, The Observer said: No opinion on the cops taking down the heavy black guy? i didn't support it. He's a loudmouth taunting delusional turd but not a violent one. I'd have stayed calm and let him vent. They're lucky things didn't escalate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,172 Posted June 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Weed? Jail? Where? What, a few hours in the holding cell? Come on man. No one stays in jail for weed. Hasn’t been the case for a long, long time. Are you saying people are not in jail for multiple weed arrests? They are...it's not some sort of epidemic agreed, but it definitely is one of the top reasons for police to minority interactions. Prohibition does not work. News Flash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites