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I just wonder what would happen if Trump activates the military to quell unrest on Los Angeles, and the Governor Newsom tries to use the national guard to block the military's attempts.

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1 minute ago, riversco said:

I just wonder what would happen if Trump activates the military to quell unrest on Los Angeles, and the Governor Newsom tries to use the national guard to block the military's attempts.

Let LA burn.

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At least the red bandana kid gets to go home to his mommy after a night in jail.

There are 2 black grandfathers who are laying in a morgue right now because of these "peaceful protests".

And another cop in Las Vegas on life support after taking a bullet to the head from a peaceful protester.

 

Seems like just a week ago we were being told by the media and politicians that the value of one life is greater than our need to go to the beach or go to church. Now those same people are sitting on their hands with their mouths shut while riffraff terrorize cities across the nation and kill innocent men.

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12 hours ago, 12th Man said:

We’re on your side!!! 😂😂

 

 

Can't get enough of this.  :banana:

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47 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Can't get enough of this.  :banana:

White liberals who sit smugly at home far from the riots but who cheer on rioters going ham destroying poor neighborhoods are worse than the rioters themselves. Yeah, you really care about these communities by paying the bail of looters. Fock off.

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Can you imagine what would have happened if Hillary was president right now?

I think when rioters approached the White House, she'd let them in to the Oval Office to have a live televised discussion with them.  She'd take a knee on the carpet.  Then she'd say or do the wrong thing and they would trash the room, beat her up, and leave her bleeding on the carpet.  Then she'd blame republicans for it.

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5 hours ago, Intense Observer said:

Muh photo op!!!!!!

Yup. I bet he somehow manages to get that photo without gassing Americans.  

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6 hours ago, KSB2424 said:

You can tell some of you nerds have never had interactions with cops.  Just because a cop grabs you and sits your azz on the curb doesn't mean you are arrested.  It means you are impeding their process.   I partied pretty hard in college, if you were wondering. 

Let me guess, you wore a white sweater vest after Labor Day? 

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1 hour ago, riversco said:

Can you imagine what would have happened if Hillary was president right now?

I think when rioters approached the White House, she'd let them in to the Oval Office to have a live televised discussion with them.  She'd take a knee on the carpet.  Then she'd say or do the wrong thing and they would trash the room, beat her up, and leave her bleeding on the carpet.  Then she'd blame republicans for it.

They wouldn't have riots. There would be no culmination of the 4 year sore loser temper tantrum we are seeing now. 

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Meanwhile, in  Chicago, 84 people were shot and 23 died from shootings last weekend.

ABLDMTM

ALL BLACK LIVES DON’T MATTER TO ME should be the mantra.

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2 hours ago, riversco said:

Can you imagine what would have happened if Hillary was president right now?

I think when rioters approached the White House, she'd let them in to the Oval Office to have a live televised discussion with them.  She'd take a knee on the carpet.  Then she'd say or do the wrong thing and they would trash the room, beat her up, and leave her bleeding on the carpet.  Then she'd blame republicans for it.

Only about 25,000 dead from the virus and peace and calm.  But, but the emails.  

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So not only are these cops roughing up an unarmed black dude, they are literally forcing a weapon into his hands to try to make it look like he had a weapon. Hard to even imagine what went on before cell phones. This is why they kneel. This is why they riot. 

 

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HT - what do you think of the NYPD Police Chief Monahan? Saw him this morning with a couple of other city chiefs. I thought he made some good points:

  • There are 800,000 LEO's in the country. Almost all condemned the actions of the officers in Minneapolis and know that is not the way to operate. However, now all 800,000 are treated like they were those Minneapolis officers.
  • Police need to be able to connect with their community and it is a two-way street. The police and the community (in general) want the same thing - a safe community.
  • One of the other chiefs was a woman (not sure from where), but she was calling for national standards for police practices. For example, you can't use that choke hold. Monahan did not take the bait and said that there needs to be accountability, but he felt that each department could do their own thing. My take is that a national standard might be good, but imagine the bureaucracy in that one and it damn well better not be run by the Federal government.

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1 hour ago, The Observer said:

So not only are these cops roughing up an unarmed black dude, they are literally forcing a weapon into his hands to try to make it look like he had a weapon. Hard to even imagine what went on before cell phones. This is why they kneel. This is why they riot. 

 

When? What weapon?

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1 hour ago, The Observer said:

Only about 25,000 dead from the virus and peace and calm.  But, but the emails.  

25k seems high, I'm guessing 15 to 20 deaths total.  Hillary probably would have personally healed each person that was infected.  Also, peace and tranquility, we never have race and rioting issues every single time a Democrat is President.

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1 hour ago, The Observer said:

So not only are these cops roughing up an unarmed black dude, they are literally forcing a weapon into his hands to try to make it look like he had a weapon. Hard to even imagine what went on before cell phones. This is why they kneel. This is why they riot. 

 

I don't have the video resolution to see clearly what happened here. Is it as Newbie says? 

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1 hour ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

HT - what do you think of the NYPD Police Chief Monahan? Saw him this morning with a couple of other city chiefs. I thought he made some good points:

  • There are 800,000 LEO's in the country. Almost all condemned the actions of the officers in Minneapolis and know that is not the way to operate. However, now all 800,000 are treated like they were those Minneapolis officers.
  • Police need to be able to connect with their community and it is a two-way street. The police and the community (in general) want the same thing - a safe community.
  • One of the other chiefs was a woman (not sure from where), but she was calling for national standards for police practices. For example, you can't use that choke hold. Monahan did not take the bait and said that there needs to be accountability, but he felt that each department could do their own thing. My take is that a national standard might be good, but imagine the bureaucracy in that one and it damn well better not be run by the Federal government.

Monahan is a Bronx boy. Well liked on his journey up the ladder, commanded some very busy precincts. But, he works for Deblasio. So he has to factor that moron in when he makes a decision. I believe I said a few days ago I didn’t know why Manhattan wasn’t closed off, we did it on 9/11 and the days after. They finally did last night and things were better. There was no curfew until Tuesday. I have to think Diblasio is the one who stoped those things. Those guys at the top can be out at any moment. He’s a good cop who would do his job gladly if allowed. 

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2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Monahan is a Bronx boy. Well liked on his journey up the ladder, commanded some very busy precincts. But, he works for Deblasio. So he has to factor that moron in when he makes a decision. I believe I said a few days ago I didn’t know why Manhattan wasn’t closed off, we did it on 9/11 and the days after. They finally did last night and things were better. There was no curfew until Tuesday. I have to think Diblasio is the one who stoped those things. Those guys at the top can be out at any moment. He’s a good cop who would do his job gladly if allowed. 

I've got a Q for you too, well two. I saw Rudy Giuliani doing an interview the other day talking about the policing protocol in New York, pointing out the difference between the white shirt cops and the blue shirt cops and how the white ones are a higher rank and make a lot of the critical management decisions in the field on how to handle different situations and make sure protocols are followed and are ultimately responsible for how things go down.  

We saw a crew of four lunkheads in Minneapolis that triggered this whole thing, no white shirt cops around. There were no white shirt cops in Charleston when they arrested that Gee kid. 

First Q is :Is there mostly respect or mostly friction between the blue shirts and the white shirt cops in NYPD? Do they work together as well as the former mayor says they do? 

Second Q is :  Do these other police departments around the country have this distinction Giuliani was talking about in NY but they just blend in together since there's no difference in uniforms or are they following a different format?

 

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8 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Is it ever?

It could be. Is that a no?

Newbie claims the cops planted a weapon on the man. With proper video, it ought to be very easy to verify if that's true or not. I wanted to do so myself, unfortunately, I cannot, I'm pixilated out of being able to judge for myself.

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6 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

It could be. Is that a no?

Newbie claims the cops planted a weapon on the man. With proper video, it ought to be very easy to verify if that's true or not. I wanted to do so myself, unfortunately, I cannot, I'm pixilated out of being able to judge for myself.

What took place was typically expected arrest procedures.

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On 6/1/2020 at 5:12 PM, The Observer said:

He accused me of being racist. I am the least racist person on this entire board. It's why you guys have such a problem with me. Lol

No, I did what you've done the last 3+ years... I'm just not wrong, where as you were.  I called the party you support racist.  I didn't call you racist.  You see, I can start back in the 1800's and point out policies that were put in place by the Democrat party that were racist and bring them all the way up to today.  On your side, the only thing you can do is call a person racist based on what you believe their intentions are/were.  You'll probably even have valid ones.  But one thing you will have NO examples of, is policies brought on by the Republican party, that targeted minorities.

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19 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

It could be. Is that a no?

Newbie claims the cops planted a weapon on the man. With proper video, it ought to be very easy to verify if that's true or not. I wanted to do so myself, unfortunately, I cannot, I'm pixilated out of being able to judge for myself.

Yes. Tackled a black man. Face down on the road. Forced his arms forward and literally put them on some kind of big stick or club that the cop put there.  Firefag can try to spin it all he wants. He's a focking liar if he denies what is plain to see. 

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5 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

No, I did what you've done the last 3+ years... I'm just not wrong, where as you were.  I called the party you support racist.  I didn't call you racist.  You see, I can start back in the 1800's and point out policies that were put in place by the Democrat party that were racist and bring them all the way up to today.  On your side, the only thing you can do is call a person racist based on what you believe their intentions are/were.  You'll probably even have valid ones.  But one thing you will have NO examples of, is policies brought on by the Republican party, that targeted minorities.

In your world, is gerrymandering considered a racist policy?

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1 minute ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

In your world, is gerrymandering considered a racist policy?

No.  That applies for both sides.  I don't think their objective is to target minorities.  Their objective is to stay in power.  I mean, I guess that a trail can be made to say it's racist on the part of the Democrats, because their end goal in being in power is objectify minorities.  The Republican's to do not do that.

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1 minute ago, The Observer said:

Obama could end all of this rioting with a five minute speech. 

Weird, he should have used that super power when he was President.  You've probably forgotten about Ferguson though.

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7 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

No.  That applies for both sides.  I don't think their objective is to target minorities.  Their objective is to stay in power.  I mean, I guess that a trail can be made to say it's racist on the part of the Democrats, because their end goal in being in power is objectify minorities.  The Republican's to do not do that.

Ummm. You might want to check on that. Particularly in the recent past. There is significant gerrymandering to redistrict black areas by Republicans. Not just keep districts together to stay in power, but to change districts to give the Republicans a chance. 

I won't bother to post sources that you will poo-poo. I don't care if you look it up or not. I got my question answered.

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1 minute ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

Ummm. You might want to check on that. Particularly in the recent past. There is significant gerrymandering to redistrict black areas by Republicans. Not just keep districts together to stay in power, but to change districts to give the Republicans a chance. 

I won't bother to post sources that you will poo-poo. I don't care if you look it up or not. I got my question answered.

You think that their goal is to oppress minorities because they're minorities.  That's not what they're doing.  So yes, you have your question answered because it's what you pretend is true.

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47 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

I've got a Q for you too, well two. I saw Rudy Giuliani doing an interview the other day talking about the policing protocol in New York, pointing out the difference between the white shirt cops and the blue shirt cops and how the white ones are a higher rank and make a lot of the critical management decisions in the field on how to handle different situations and make sure protocols are followed and are ultimately responsible for how things go down.  

We saw a crew of four lunkheads in Minneapolis that triggered this whole thing, no white shirt cops around. There were no white shirt cops in Charleston when they arrested that Gee kid. 

First Q is :Is there mostly respect or mostly friction between the blue shirts and the white shirt cops in NYPD? Do they work together as well as the former mayor says they do? 

Second Q is :  Do these other police departments around the country have this distinction Giuliani was talking about in NY but they just blend in together since there's no difference in uniforms or are they following a different format?

 

The white shirts are LT. And above. And no, they aren’t at every scene every day. There is a big presence of them at high profile events, protests and all that. Much friction.  NYPD bosses play favorites and sometimes just dgaf. And the good ones are the minority. Every department does it different. In the NYPD there are two types of cops: Jungle cats and house cats.  There are a lot of house cats. Way too many. It leaves the patrol cops short on manpower and overworked at times.  This is the first time many of them have been in the street in years. I’m all over the place but what you see now and on TV and the day to day are vastly different. 

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19 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Obama could end all of this rioting with a five minute speech. 

What’s he waiting for? 

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19 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Obama could end all of this rioting with a five minute speech. 

😂

The reason this is even happening can be traced back TO Obama and his allowance for it to be OK.  Good Lord no, that is the last thing we need right now... 

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17 minutes ago, Reality said:

Weird, he should have used that super power when he was President.  You've probably forgotten about Ferguson though.

Tell me the details on furguson. How long did it last? How many cities did it expand to? Did Obama call for the military to come and kill civilians. Did Obama gas peaceful protesters so that he could get a photo op and hold a Bible upside down?  Ferguson sounds fascinating. Dying to hear your answers.

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2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

What’s he waiting for? 

Unlike the commencement speech, which he was asked to do and Trump was never a consideration, he's trying very hard not to step on Trump's toes. But since Trump is failing so badly, he might just step up for the sake of the country.

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6 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Tell me the details on furguson. How long did it last? How many cities did it expand to? Did Obama call for the military to come and kill civilians. Did Obama gas peaceful protesters so that he could get a photo op and hold a Bible upside down?  Ferguson sounds fascinating. Dying to hear your answers.

FERGUSON didn't go the way you remember it, Obama was largely silent and severely delayed in his reaction.  Please educate yourself.

https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2014/08/22/341935015/obamas-reaction-to-ferguson-raises-questions-about-presidents-role

The media fans the flames when a Republican is President, they do the opposite when a Democrat is in charge.  You can start there on why it's spread so severely and quickly. 

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7 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Unlike the commencement speech, which he was asked to do and Trump was never a consideration, he's trying very hard not to step on Trump's toes. But since Trump is failing so badly, he might just step up for the sake of the country.

You are going to be shocked to your core.  

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Newbie's Army

 

 

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16 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Tell me the details on furguson. How long did it last? How many cities did it expand to? Did Obama call for the military to come and kill civilians. Did Obama gas peaceful protesters so that he could get a photo op and hold a Bible upside down?  Ferguson sounds fascinating. Dying to hear your answers.

It spread to Dallas for one.  5 cops murdered. 

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Rain on the way. That should take care of the black rioters. 

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