Defund the police

[Hardcore troubadour 15,555]

8 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

I think this is the democrats play... 

The defund or otherwise neuter the police. They try to replace it with their brownshirt antifa thugs (this probably happens simply by hiring them into existing police departments.)

They and the criminals run amok.

Eventually, regular citizens push back, militia groups proliferate, etc.

At that point they declare a white supremacist right wing separatist crisis or whatever, and try to use military to crush it, thus giving them total control. 

Antifa is going down. They rely on money. Money always leaves a trail. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

I'm all about democracy. 

If people in certain cities don't want police. Have a vote and those who want to get rid of police and emergency services, so be it. Then when they call 911, no response required in their district. 

Later dlckheads. 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

4 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

I'm all about democracy. 

If people in certain cities don't want police. Have a vote and those who want to get rid of police and emergency services, so be it. Then when they call 911, no response required in their district. 

Later dlckheads. 

Maybe we can turn the police into the same kind of cluster fock as our medical system. You have to pay for. Crime insurance. If you call your private security provider and don't have coverage, they tell you to fock yourself. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

Remember this in 2015? What course of action did the the black community do because they "CARE SO MUCH" about people?

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Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake is urging black men to do more to help stop the killing in Baltimore — a call to action some applauded as a blunt truth, while others said the city government needs to step up as well.

In her State of the City address Monday, the mayor said more black men must become involved as mentors, tutors and community activists if the city is to reduce homicides — which, she noted, often involve black men killing black men.

"Too many of us in the black community have become complacent about black-on-black crime," she said afterward. "While many of us are willing to march and protest and become active in the face of police misconduct, many of us turn a blind eye when it's us killing us."

 

[TBayXXXVII 2,580]

1 hour ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I think we should enact a law that says all liberals cannot move OR must move to the liberal cities only.  We don't want them spoiling the rest of America.  They're like cockroaches - once you see one it's only a matter of time before your community goes to hell.

They are a cancer on society.

LOL, that's good.  I like it.

[lod001 1,345]

33 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Maybe we can turn the police into the same kind of cluster fock as our medical system. You have to pay for. Crime insurance. If you call your private security provider and don't have coverage, they tell you to fock yourself. 

'911, what's your emergency?'

'A gang of rioters and thugs are attacking me'.

'The number you are calling from did not pay for crime insurance, goodbye'.

[TBayXXXVII 2,580]

16 minutes ago, lod001 said:

'911, what's your emergency?'

'A gang of rioters and thugs are attacking me'.

'The number you are calling from did not pay for crime insurance, goodbye'.

alternate ending...

911 Operator: Did you vote to de-fund the police department?

Caller: Yes, why?

911 Operator: Good.  When no one shows up, you'll know why.  Good luck.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Worth noting that those who want to defund the police also want to ban guns.

So you'd just be utterly at the mercy of whoever. Sounds like a good plan. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,555]

The rich liberal and Hollywood airhead want the police defunded where you live. Not where they live. No different than how they school their children. They would never send their children to a school with poor black kids. Or poor kids period. 

[Voltaire 5,355]

4 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The rich liberal and Hollywood airhead want the police defunded where you live. Not where they live. No different than how they school their children. They would never send their children to a school with poor black kids. Or poor kids period. 

My thinking on the matter is more complicated. My anger at the police generally has risen to about 0.00000 throughout all of this. This started with one bad cop and three knuckleheads and the following week+ has seen a more few snap under pressure and screw up as well (thinking of the fattie kicker, the Buffalo pusher seemed to be to be an unfortunate accident. Generally, I see cops as in an important and thankless job, spending the last couple of weeks getting beat up (90% unfairly) by agenda driven scumballs in the media.

SO, back to the main point, while I don't ever, under any circumstances support defunding the police. We saw video of the one old lady explain with grief that she has nowhere to shop now while another, cleaning up the wreckage of her shop give the BLM looters a good dose of reality. I simply don't hate any community anywhere in the country so badly as to wish this outcome on any of the residents living there. Especially these two elderly black ladies that live under that regime. Still, the emotion I'm feeling isn't merely sadness and disappointed for what the residents are about to endure, there's also a good dose of "fock you, you reap what you sew" aimed at the gawdawful political leadership of these cities that are playing PC games and are commiting social suicide in their communities by taking these actions.

Since they don't want to go back to Mogadishu, they can bring Mogadishu to the United States.

[DonS 3,292]

I wonder if any of these woke city council members that vow to disband the police take one second to think about the economic impact on tourism and conventions?

I know I would pass on spending any of my money to travel to a city that got rid of their police department.

Conventions and trade shows are a big source of income for cities. You don't think organizers would choose City B with an actual police force over "lawless Woke Town" City A every single time?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,555]

7 minutes ago, DonS said:

I wonder if any of these woke city council members that vow to disband the police take one second to think about the economic impact on tourism and conventions?

I know I would pass on spending any of my money to travel to a city that got rid of their police department.

Conventions and trade shows are a big source of income for cities. You don't think organizers would choose City B with an actual police force over "lawless Woke Town" City A every single time?

I used to go to Baltimore for a Yankee game every couple of years. I was there the year the Yankees played their first game at Camden yards. After their latest riots a few years ago I decided I’m not going back. 

[lod001 1,345]

9 minutes ago, DonS said:

I wonder if any of these woke city council members that vow to disband the police take one second to think about the economic impact on tourism and conventions?

I know I would pass on spending any of my money to travel to a city that got rid of their police department.

Conventions and trade shows are a big source of income for cities. You don't think organizers would choose City B with an actual police force over "lawless Woke Town" City A every single time?

They are way too stupid to consider the ramifications. If they considered them, they would never have spoken aloud about this stupidity.

[porkbutt 893]

7 hours ago, Voltaire said:

My thinking on the matter is more complicated. My anger at the police generally has risen to about 0.00000 throughout all of this. This started with one bad cop and three knuckleheads and the following week+ has seen a more few snap under pressure and screw up as well (thinking of the fattie kicker, the Buffalo pusher seemed to be to be an unfortunate accident. Generally, I see cops as in an important and thankless job, spending the last couple of weeks getting beat up (90% unfairly) by agenda driven scumballs in the media.

SO, back to the main point, while I don't ever, under any circumstances support defunding the police. We saw video of the one old lady explain with grief that she has nowhere to shop now while another, cleaning up the wreckage of her shop give the BLM looters a good dose of reality. I simply don't hate any community anywhere in the country so badly as to wish this outcome on any of the residents living there. Especially these two elderly black ladies that live under that regime. Still, the emotion I'm feeling isn't merely sadness and disappointed for what the residents are about to endure, there's also a good dose of "fock you, you reap what you sew" aimed at the gawdawful political leadership of these cities that are playing PC games and are commiting social suicide in their communities by taking these actions.

Since they don't want to go back to Mogadishu, they can bring Mogadishu to the United States.

see like libtards on every issue they take the wrong side. i would rather try to fix the side that protects and serves. guys that wake up and go to work every day and lay life on the line. instead they wanna do away with them because some career criminals that have run ins with the law on weekly basis got screwed a couple times. get the fock out of here.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

14 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Antifa is going down. They rely on money. Money always leaves a trail. 

The media won't follow that trail.  In fact, the media will attack investigators if they follow that trail.  At worst, Antifa goes down so ex-Antifa members just reorganize under a new banner later but carry the same attitudes, a de-facto Antifa.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

14 hours ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Maybe we can turn the police into the same kind of cluster fock as our medical system. You have to pay for. Crime insurance. If you call your private security provider and don't have coverage, they tell you to fock yourself. 

That will devolve into a mafia / crimelord system pretty quickly.  You start paying for protection.  Pretty soon the people you are paying own you.  Its the oldest model of government there is.

[DonS 3,292]

23 minutes ago, lod001 said:

They are way too stupid to consider the ramifications. If they considered them, they would never have spoken aloud about this stupidity.

I truly am beginning to wonder if liberal lawmakers suffer from that rare condition where they can't visualize things in their brain (no "mind's eye").  Time and time again they seem shocked at the inevitable consequences of their woke laws that any non-retarded person can see coming from a mile away. 

Seattle City Council is a textbook example.  "Lack of affordable housing" is a "crisis" in Seattle.  To combat this crisis they pass huge property tax increases and act outraged when property owners (aka landlords) increase the monthly rent by same amount.   They also make it illegal for landlords to check for any past CRIMINAL activity and also MUST accept the first "qualified" applicant that responds.  To weed out the dregs of society they simply crank up the credit score requirements, making it even harder for folks to get housing if they don't have an exemplary credit history.

Rinse and focking repeat. 

[avoiding injuries 1,615]

36 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I used to go to Baltimore for a Yankee game every couple of years. I was there the year the Yankees played their first game at Camden yards. After their latest riots a few years ago I decided I’m not going back. 

Thank you!

[porkbutt 893]

1 minute ago, DonS said:

I truly am beginning to wonder if liberal lawmakers suffer from that rare condition where they can't visualize things in their brain (no "mind's eye").  Time and time again they seem shocked at the inevitable consequences of their woke laws that any non-retarded person can see coming from a mile away. 

Seattle City Council is a textbook example.  "Lack of affordable housing" is a "crisis" in Seattle.  To combat this crisis they pass huge property tax increases and act outraged when property owners (aka landlords) increase the monthly rent by same amount.   They also make it illegal for landlords to check for any past CRIMINAL activity and also MUST accept the first "qualified" applicant that responds.  To weed out the dregs of society they simply crank up the credit score requirements, making it even harder for folks to get housing if they don't have an exemplary credit history.

Rinse and focking repeat. 

it's crazy how stupid they are. i can only chalk it up to bitter jealousy....like im a fock up but i want the same as those who do right thing and work for it.

[Fireballer 2,651]

16 minutes ago, DonS said:

I truly am beginning to wonder if liberal lawmakers suffer from that rare condition where they can't visualize things in their brain (no "mind's eye").  Time and time again they seem shocked at the inevitable consequences of their woke laws that any non-retarded person can see coming from a mile away. 

Seattle City Council is a textbook example.  "Lack of affordable housing" is a "crisis" in Seattle.  To combat this crisis they pass huge property tax increases and act outraged when property owners (aka landlords) increase the monthly rent by same amount.   They also make it illegal for landlords to check for any past CRIMINAL activity and also MUST accept the first "qualified" applicant that responds.  To weed out the dregs of society they simply crank up the credit score requirements, making it even harder for folks to get housing if they don't have an exemplary credit history.

Rinse and focking repeat. 

Its all about what feels good right now, in the moment.  Quite childish actually.

[Voltaire 5,355]

20 minutes ago, DonS said:

I truly am beginning to wonder if liberal lawmakers suffer from that rare condition where they can't visualize things in their brain (no "mind's eye").  Time and time again they seem shocked at the inevitable consequences of their woke laws that any non-retarded person can see coming from a mile away. 

Seattle City Council is a textbook example.  "Lack of affordable housing" is a "crisis" in Seattle.  To combat this crisis they pass huge property tax increases and act outraged when property owners (aka landlords) increase the monthly rent by same amount.   They also make it illegal for landlords to check for any past CRIMINAL activity and also MUST accept the first "qualified" applicant that responds.  To weed out the dregs of society they simply crank up the credit score requirements, making it even harder for folks to get housing if they don't have an exemplary credit history.

Rinse and focking repeat. 

No. That's not how aphantasia works. Not being able to visualize things has no affect on predicting outcomes and consequences of policy decisions. it means I can't visualize my wife or children's or my mother's face in my head and when I read a "visualize whirled peas" bumper sticker, I can't see anything or produce that effect in my head. I also can't artificially create smells or tastes. The scene in Lost of Charlie and Claire on the beach imagining eating peanut butter made zero sense at the time and was absurd to me. I'd not realize at that time that people can actually do that. 

It means that when I think,  I hear my own voice speaking in my head. When I try to think in John Wayne's voice, I can do that but only because I can reasonably impersonate him and the voice I hear speaking is not his but actually me imitating John Wayne and making mistakes that I would make. I cannot think in a female voice at all since I cannot imitate one.

Now, what I CAN DO with ease is reason out the effects of those Seattle property tax increases or realize how focking stupid woke culture is. No problems there. I  like to think that it helped in school, which came easier for me than for most, although I don't know if it affected that or not.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,555]

Years ago I read a book called “It Seemed Like A Good Idea”. Light read, funny.  I feel like I’m living through what could be a chapter in that book.  

[The Observer 641]

Biden came out today against the defunding of police departments. Wise move on his part.  You can still support the cause without doing something as radical as defunding the police. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,555]

Just now, The Observer said:

Biden came out today against the defunding of police departments. Wise move on his part.  You can still support the cause without doing something as radical as defunding the police. 

I’ll wait and see who his VP pick is before I consider anything he has to say. He’s just a figurehead. 

[The Observer 641]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’ll wait and see who his VP pick is before I consider anything he has to say. He’s just a figurehead. 

Lol  Yeah, because his pick as a running mate will make all the difference in the world to you. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,555]

2 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Lol  Yeah, because his pick as a running mate will make all the difference in the world to you. 

Maybe not, but it may make a difference for the country that I love. I can not vote for someone and not be opposed to everything they do. It’s called being rational, not ruled by hate. 

[porkbutt 893]

Just now, The Observer said:

Biden came out today against the defunding of police departments. Wise move on his part.  You can still support the cause without doing something as radical as defunding the police. 

well you know that's one of the main objectives of the BLM organization. and if you say you are against "black lives matter" you're a racist scumbag

i think a big issue is people don't differentiate between black lives mattering and the BLM org itself.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,555]

1 minute ago, porkbutt said:

well you know that's one of the main objectives of the BLM organization. and if you say you are against "black lives matter" you're a racist scumbag

i think a big issue is people don't differentiate between black lives mattering and the BLM org itself.

I wonder if left wing hero and BLM supporter Mitt Romney supports defunding the police? 

[Voltaire 5,355]

10 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Lol  Yeah, because his pick as a running mate will make all the difference in the world to you. 

No. We'll vote Trump 100%. I' did for Biden in Buzzfeed "who farted" survey last week. One Biden vote is plenty for this lifetime.

Still, the VP choice is absolutly critical because Biden has a legitimate shot at winning the presidency. Unfortunatly he is also mentally impaired and no longer qualified to serve as president so the VP selection is especially important in his situation and we're all curious who it will be because this is likely the person who will actually run things in a Biden administration.

[The Observer 641]

17 minutes ago, porkbutt said:

well you know that's one of the main objectives of the BLM organization. and if you say you are against "black lives matter" you're a racist scumbag

i think a big issue is people don't differentiate between black lives mattering and the BLM org itself.

Biden is smart in not letting his support of the movement make him agree to a radical plan like defunding the police. 

[The Observer 641]

4 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

No. We'll vote Trump 100%. I' did for Biden in Buzzfeed "who farted" survey last week. One Biden vote is plenty for this lifetime.

Still, the VP choice is absolutly critical because Biden has a legitimate shot at winning the presidency. Unfortunatly he is also mentally impaired and no longer qualified to serve as president so the VP selection is especially important in his situation and we're all curious who it will be because this is likely the person who will actually run things in a Biden administration.

I agree that the VP choice is more important than usual  this time around. Biden will most-likely not even attempt to run in 2024 should he win in 2020.  Also, you're way more concerned with his mental decline than most of the country is, as see see Trump's mental make-up 100 x more dangerous.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,555]

2 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Biden is smart in not letting his support of the movement make him agree to a radical plan like defunding the police. 

Not Romney though. He’s all for it.  

[Voltaire 5,355]

Just now, The Observer said:

I agree that the VP choice is more important than usual  this time around. Biden will most-likely not even attempt to run in 2024 should he win in 2020.  Also, you're way more concerned with his mental decline than most of the country is, as see see Trump's mental make-up 100 x more dangerous.

For good or bad, Trump is operating at 100% of the same mental capacity he was at in the 80s.  Joe is only at about 75-80% of his peak and struggles to string sentences together coherently.

[The Observer 641]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Not Romney though. He’s all for it.  

I won't vote for him then.  Thanks for the heads up

[The Observer 641]

1 minute ago, Voltaire said:

For good or bad, Trump is operating at 100% of the same mental capacity he was at in the 80s.  Joe is only at about 75-80% of his peak and struggles to string sentences together coherently.

Trump has always been a narcissist. And a racist.  But his mental decline has brought out extreme paranoia. He is not  working at 100% mental capability. He is deep into decline. 

[Voltaire 5,355]

4 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Trump has always been a narcissist. And a racist.  But his mental decline has brought out extreme paranoia. He is not  working at 100% mental capability. He is deep into decline. 

We've all seen Trump saying dumb sh*t often enough, but I have attributed that to being who he's always been.Trump has his wits about him and is funny as ever.   I've not noticed any decline. Certainly not like Biden. Biden has good days when he is functional but is in clear cognitive decline. 

[The Observer 641]

3 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

We've all seen Trump saying dumb sh*t often enough, but I have attributed that to being who he's always been.Trump has his wits about him and is funny as ever.   I've not noticed any decline. Certainly not like Biden. Biden has good days when he is functional but is in clear cognitive decline. 

lol  Ok dude. If you aren't seeing paranoia and anger, 24/7, then I don't know what to tell you.

I mean, I suppose you could make that the case that Trump has always been a sociopath with narcissistic paranoia who had the advantage of running his own company and never being challenged before. And maybe his constant anger and lying is the result of not being able to go unquestioned anymore.  So you can call Biden's a decline and Trump's a disorder, but I am WAY more comfortable with a guy who might need reminding what town he's in than a paranoid cupcake always looking for a fight. Trump is dangerous. Biden is compassionate and kind. Exactly what the country needs again.

[RLLD 4,275]

1 minute ago, Voltaire said:

We've all seen Trump saying dumb sh*t often enough, but I have attributed that to being who he's always been.Trump has his wits about him and is funny as ever.   I've not noticed any decline. Certainly not like Biden. Biden has good days when he is functional but is in clear cognitive decline. 

That has always been the head scratcher for me. I know when Trump is being sarcastic or at least attempting to be funny, but the MSM seems oblivious to it, I think it goes back to when they were grabbing at anything and everything to manipulate the election and it was all failing.

[Baker Boy 1,704]

The Left wants to defund the Police and disarm law abiding citizens. If that isn’t a recipe for a takeover by the ruling class I don’t know what is.

[Fireballer 2,651]

Typical leftist thought...lets not look past today...