Systemic Racism

[Strike 6,115]

6 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

I know you are circling your wagons but you guys do not look good in this exchange. I think I hit a nerve deep inside you. 

You don't read a room very well, do you?  You're like Pinnochio giving a self help seminar:

 

[KSB2424 3,174]

25 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Well then, let's start with schools, since BB won't respond to me.  This issue is not "school choice", the issue is "public schools generally suck in poor neighborhoods."  Then fishbone that bad boy for your root cause analysis:  insufficient funding, poor teachers, parental apathy, student apathy, etc.

We'll quickly knock off funding as a cause, since inner city schools tend to get MORE taxpayer money than their suburban counterparts.

 

So now we have poor teachers, parental apathy, and student apathy.  Why?

[Baker Boy 1,712]

6 minutes ago, Strike said:

You don't read a room very well, do you?  You're like Pinnochio giving a self help seminar:

 

I am not playing to a room. A question was asked, I answered it and you try kill to the messenger because of false assumptions and the fact you don’t like the answers. Very bad form

[Baker Boy 1,712]

2 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

So now we have poor teachers, parental apathy, and student apathy.  Why?

You can throw all the money you want at this it will not alleviate the problem. Unless you can separate the good from the bad nothing will work. Especially when the majority is bad. All I am saying is help the parents who want it, the bad is a different problem and I don’t know the answer to that.

[KSB2424 3,174]

5 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

You can throw all the money you want at this it will not alleviate the problem. Unless you can separate the good from the bad nothing will work. Especially when the majority is bad. All I am saying is help the parents who want it, the bad is a different problem and I don’t know the answer to that.

Correct we’ve already established throwing money at it isn’t the solution.  We’ve moved from that. 

[Baker Boy 1,712]

5 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

Correct we’ve already established throwing money at isn’t the solution.  We’ve moved from that. 

That is all you took from that post.

I find it ironic the board Conservatives are siding with the Democrats on  the topic of school choice.

[KSB2424 3,174]

1 minute ago, Baker Boy said:

I find it ironic the board Conservatives are siding with the Democrats on  the topic of school choice.

You're speaking in circles and general terms.  How very liberal of you. 

[Baker Boy 1,712]

2 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

You're speaking in circles and general terms.  How very liberal of you. 

So you agree with school choice you just don’t think it belongs on the list?

[KSB2424 3,174]

Just now, Baker Boy said:

So you agree with school choice you just don’t think it belongs on the list.

My own children go to a Charter School and its on the list.

As an example there are already school options in the New York City.  https://www.nyccharterschools.org/

 

[Strike 6,115]

2 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

So you agree with school choice you just don’t think it belongs on the list?

School choice is a very vague suggestion.  I already posted a solution, which is one form of school choice.  I bet you didn't even go read it as I suggested you do.

[shorepatrol 1,871]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’m not offended for being called a bigot anymore. It means zilch.  

I hit this point a long time ago. IDGAF

[Baker Boy 1,712]

19 minutes ago, Strike said:

School choice is a very vague suggestion.  I already posted a solution, which is one form of school choice.  I bet you didn't even go read it as I suggested you do.

The OP was asking for examples of Systemic Racism I provided it because people believe it is an example. He was not looking for solutions or alternatives.

[Baker Boy 1,712]

3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’m not offended for being called a bigot anymore. It means zilch.  

No one called you a bigot!

[Strike 6,115]

8 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

The OP was asking for examples of Systemic Racism I provided it because people believe it is an example. He was not looking for solutions or alternatives.

You just want to argue apparently.  Have fun.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,186]

7 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

No one called you a bigot!

Prejudiced, Amit-Semitic, bigot, racist. All the same at this point. Just noise that I don’t care about. Doesn’t even rise to the level of being annoyed anymore.  

[Patented Phil 1,469]

20 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

The OP was asking for examples of Systemic Racism I provided it because people believe it is an example. He was not looking for solutions or alternatives.

Ok, how about you now provide legitimate examples of systemic racism that actually make sense.

[Baker Boy 1,712]

58 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Prejudiced, Amit-Semitic, bigot, racist. All the same at this point. Just noise that I don’t care about. Doesn’t even rise to the level of being annoyed anymore.  

I said your statement was anti-Semitic, I don’t know you how would I know.? If you can find where I Said that I would like to see it and I apologize if I did that was not my intent to.

[Baker Boy 1,712]

1 hour ago, Patented Phil said:

Ok, how about you now provide legitimate examples of systemic racism that actually make sense.

For the sixth time,I was giving examples of what people consider Systemic Racism, that was what the OP was asking. It didn’t ask what I thought was Systemic Racism. I never said I thought any of them were Systemic Racism personally. Please find where I said I thought it was Systemic Racism, or get a new line. Start over by reading the OP.

[Baker Boy 1,712]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

You just want to argue apparently.  Have fun.

You just can’t accept that you have missed the point of this entire thread. 

[Voltaire 5,537]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Prejudiced, Amit-Semitic, bigot, racist. All the same at this point. Just noise that I don’t care about. Doesn’t even rise to the level of being annoyed anymore.  

You're also a misogynist homophobe who is worse than Hitler.

[Baker Boy 1,712]

Richard Fowler: March on Washington shows systemic racism continues, as Trump worsens our divisions

Trump has settled on fearmongering to pave his way to another four years in the White House
 

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/march-on-wahington-richard-fowler
 

This is what other people believe.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

On 8/28/2020 at 11:50 AM, KSB2424 said:

Keep going.........you mean parents that care right?  Involved in the school, etc. 

 

And feed their kids, make sure they aren't slinging drugs or gangbanging, etc.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

5 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Richard Fowler: March on Washington shows systemic racism continues, as Trump worsens our divisions

Trump has settled on fearmongering to pave his way to another four years in the White House
 

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/march-on-wahington-richard-fowler
 

This is what other people believe.

What a crappy opinion piece.  The guy rambles like a 15 year old.  The only specific examples of systemic racism he cited were some vague West Virginia schools issue and the go-to “voter suppression” issue, which is a lark.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

1 minute ago, Patented Phil said:

What a crappy opinion piece.  The guy rambles like a 15 year old.  The only specific examples of systemic racism he cited were some vague West Virginia schools issue and the go-to “voter suppression” issue, which is a lark.

How the hell is Trump fear mongering? There is literally mass civil unrest. That pretty much mongers its own fear.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

1 minute ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

How the hell is Trump fear mongering? There is literally mass civil unrest. That pretty much mongers its own fear.

3 words - Orange Man Bad

[Hardcore troubadour 16,186]

Trump is fear mongering? Then what the hell were the Obamas doing last week? BO- “Our Democracy hangs in the balance”. MO- “It can get worse “. These media people are unreal. They just say the first thing that comes to their mind. It’s so played out. 

[Baker Boy 1,712]

1 hour ago, Patented Phil said:

What a crappy opinion piece.  The guy rambles like a 15 year old.  The only specific examples of systemic racism he cited were some vague West Virginia schools issue and the go-to “voter suppression” issue, which is a lark.

Yup, but that is what is out there and how and why they apply the term. I believe it was the top story. MSM

[FeelingMN 273]

22 hours ago, KSB2424 said:

A proposed bill is not a law.  It has zero effect until It is actually put in place.  Why can’t you understand that?  

You may want to go to another state that actually HAS voter ID laws because we don’t. Hence your terrible example.  

 

The intent of the law was to disenfranchise black voters, which is why it was struck down.  The Republicans who tried to pass that law will probably try something else to curb the black vote.  The bill never became the law of the land but the people who wrote that bill are still in power.  And it's why we have all these attempts to stop voter fraud....which is really an effort to suppress votes.

 

22 hours ago, KSB2424 said:

How do you type so many words with those limp wrists?

Sweater vests help.

If you're serious about becoming a city councilman you're going to have to get used to communicating with others who can actually articulate their viewpoints half way decently.  Maybe the Geek Club is more your speed.  

21 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Insider trading laws affect more Jewish people. Is that anti-Semitic? DWI laws affect more white people. Is that racist ? 

If the intent of those laws were to target those groups, then yes.  But considering those laws are openly enforced and haven't been ruled unconstitutional I'm thinking they don't target any one group.  Unlike the NC bill.

When the IRS under Obama went after conservative groups they pinpointed certain words....Patriot and Liberty and Tea Party.  Those words are more likely associated with conservatives and so they were absolutely targeting those groups from the start.  According to your line of thinking, it's all good because leftist groups probably contained those words too.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,186]

21 minutes ago, FeelingMN said:

The intent of the law was to disenfranchise black voters, which is why it was struck down.  The Republicans who tried to pass that law will probably try something else to curb the black vote.  The bill never became the law of the land but the people who wrote that bill are still in power.  And it's why we have all these attempts to stop voter fraud....which is really an effort to suppress votes.

 

Sweater vests help.

If you're serious about becoming a city councilman you're going to have to get used to communicating with others who can actually articulate their viewpoints half way decently.  Maybe the Geek Club is more your speed.  

If the intent of those laws were to target those groups, then yes.  But considering those laws are openly enforced and haven't been ruled unconstitutional I'm thinking they don't target any one group.  Unlike the NC bill.

When the IRS under Obama went after conservative groups they pinpointed certain words....Patriot and Liberty and Tea Party.  Those words are more likely associated with conservatives and so they were absolutely targeting those groups from the start.  According to your line of thinking, it's all good because leftist groups probably contained those words too.

No, my point is if two different people commit the same crime they should be prosecuted regardless of race. That’s what makes it not racist, and fair.  With the voting, if a white person didn’t meet the requirements spelled out in that bill, would they still be allowed to vote? Calling it unfair may be true. Calling it racist doesn’t hold up.  

[KSB2424 3,174]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No, my point is if two different people commit the same crime they should be prosecuted regardless of race. That’s what makes it not racist, and fair.  With the voting, if a white person didn’t meet the requirements spelled out in that bill, would they still be allowed to vote? Calling it unfair may be true. Calling it racist doesn’t hold up.  

Racist!@#!  is the easy fall back moniker used by persons to lazy to try to understand the actual problem.  It's easy, just yell racism and people applaud you, you get a sense of self accomplishment and people cheer.  Its lazy.

Meanwhile nothing really changes, because its just virtue signaling. 

[Gladiators 2,038]

5 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

Racist!@#!  is the easy fall back moniker used by persons to lazy to try to understand the actual problem.  It's easy, just yell racism and people applaud you, you get a sense of self accomplishment and people cheer.  I't lazy.

Meanwhile nothing really changes, because its just virtue signaling. 

You’re racist.

I feel so much better for doing my part today. I’ll sit back and enjoy my afternoon now. 

[Cdub100 3,996]

Having a conversation with a liberal friend of mine and I said if the criminal would follow police directions none of them would have been shot. He said that is the exact type of systematic racism he's fighting against.

 

I have zero clue WTF he's talking about.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,186]

6 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Having a conversation with a liberal friend of mine and I said if the criminal would follow police directions none of them would have been shot. He said that is the exact type of systematic racism he's fighting against.

 

I have zero clue WTF he's talking about.

So he’s not interested in saving black lives. I thought they mattered? 

[Utilit99 4,099]

13 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Having a conversation with a liberal friend of mine and I said if the criminal would follow police directions none of them would have been shot. He said that is the exact type of systematic racism he's fighting against.

 

I have zero clue WTF he's talking about.

Was he really really drunk?

[Cdub100 3,996]

Just now, Utilit99 said:

Was he really really drunk?

No, he's a very smart person, non medical doctor even. He's also a very good person who's willing to help people. 

I haven't read this whole thread has anyone explained what systemic racism is?

[iam90sbaby 2,727]

1 minute ago, Cdub100 said:

No, he's a very smart person, non medical doctor even. He's also a very good person who's willing to help people. 

I haven't read this whole thread has anyone explained what systemic racism is?

I did back on page one 

[Baker Boy 1,712]

On 8/29/2020 at 10:29 AM, Baker Boy said:

Link! 
 

Your statement is very anti semitic, you decide.

 

21 hours ago, Baker Boy said:

Well it is, claiming Jewish people were more affected  by insider trading laws than other groups without proof is a very prejudicial statement.

He is entitled to his opinion but it is what it is.

 

20 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’m not offended for being called a bigot anymore. It means zilch.  

 

16 hours ago, Baker Boy said:

I said your statement was anti-Semitic, I don’t know you how would I know.? If you can find where I Said that I would like to see it and I apologize if I did that was not my intent to.

Well? I can’t find it.

[Utilit99 4,099]

31 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

 

I haven't read this whole thread has anyone explained what systemic racism is?

The definition of 'systemic racism' is that it's a made up term by the liberal democrats to cause riotous behavior in liberals to cause extreme chaos and harm to people in this country with the goal of winning an election by blaming it all on the republicans and Trump.

[Cdub100 3,996]

Just now, Utilit99 said:

The definition of 'systemic racism' is that it's a made up term by the liberal democrats to cause riotous behavior in liberals to cause extreme chaos and harm to people in this country with the goal of winning an election by blaming it all on the republicans and Trump.

Is that in Websters?

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, Cdub100 said:

Is that in Websters?

Definitions of words don't exist in current day America. I had a young liberal tell me once that "people can use and redefine words all they want. Get over it."