yupper 6 Posted September 23, 2020 Watson fell to me at the end of the 8th/beginning of the 9th round turn. He wasn't my draft target but with where I got him I was thinking that I was/am getting a steal, or at least value. Through 2 weeks Deshaun has looked pretty average. The loss of Hopkins has hurt and the weapons around him also look average. The Texans have faced some pretty tough teams the first few weeks with KC, Bal, and now this week Pitt. The Texans schedule opens up a little bit after this week. Are there better days ahead for Watson? Can he reach his top 5 potential this season or should I be looking to move him in a trade? Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted September 23, 2020 Watson is as good as he's ever been. He doesn't have very good weapons and his OL is still a wet tissue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted September 23, 2020 A top 5 finish is certainly looking doubtful. It only goes to show that even when you think you're getting good value on a QB, you still should have waited until the double-digit rounds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted September 23, 2020 Anyone who didn't see this coming, wasn't paying attention. He lost one of the best WR's in the NFL this year and does not have a go to option now. And his OL still stinks. He was on my DND list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,117 Posted September 23, 2020 Personally, I always thought Watson was a bit overrated. I think he's a perfectly fine/acceptable QB, but in the... I don't know, 10 to 12 range among QB's. But people seem to put him in the top 5 to 7. I don't see it. I know the kid is athletic, but as a passer, I think he's "ok". His mobility gives him a definite bump up, but once that goes, he'll be a middle of the road QB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Simms 11 127 Posted September 23, 2020 Had him as DND due to Oline, Hopkins and I wasn’t a fan of Cooks either. Cooks looked done last year and seems ready to retire due to concussion fears He was going way too early in drafts, both Watson and Cooks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Einstein's Dog 20 Posted September 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Jarvis Basnight said: Anyone who didn't see this coming, wasn't paying attention. He lost one of the best WR's in the NFL this year and does not have a go to option now. And his OL still stinks. He was on my DND list. To me another warning sign was the D Johnson addition. The team by virtue of coach/GM is going to try and justify that decision. I expect to see a more run oriented attack when possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted September 23, 2020 6 hours ago, Jarvis Basnight said: Anyone who didn't see this coming, wasn't paying attention. He lost one of the best WR's in the NFL this year and does not have a go to option now. And his OL still stinks. He was on my DND list. Agreed. I wouldn’t have him on a dnd list, but I wouldn’t draft at what was his adp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 403 Posted September 23, 2020 I've always thought Watson was pretty standard QB1, but not a top notch. Sure, on his best days he puts up pretty big numbers but he has to have a lot of help around him for that. He's never been someone I have thought was worth reaching for. Still, it's just two games, I'm sure he'll have some big moments to come this season barring injury. If he's your starter, it's probably gonna be tough to do much better at this point. Just have to stick with him and hope for the best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackjohn 31 Posted September 24, 2020 Having Hopkins and Fuller allowed running lanes to open for him. Each required a DB and at least 1 safety to cover them. Whomever the safety covers, throw to the other. Now, it's just Fuller, cover him with a db safety over the top. Another db on an aging Cobb, and everyone else stop DJ and the qb scramble. Imo, O'Brien (sp) is an idiot, Hopkins for DJ was all Ari win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eagles115 23 Posted September 24, 2020 i traded Watson for Engram. i cant stand Watson and O'brien Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted September 24, 2020 6 hours ago, jackjohn said: Having Hopkins and Fuller allowed running lanes to open for him. Each required a DB and at least 1 safety to cover them. Whomever the safety covers, throw to the other. Now, it's just Fuller, cover him with a db safety over the top. Another db on an aging Cobb, and everyone else stop DJ and the qb scramble. Imo, O'Brien (sp) is an idiot, Hopkins for DJ was all Ari win. Agreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted September 24, 2020 1 hour ago, eagles115 said: i traded Watson for Engram. i cant stand Watson and O'brien So you traded a top 15 Qb , for a top 27 Te? Now you do know that Engram can’t stay healthy right? Mmmm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yupper 6 Posted September 26, 2020 I saw a post last night that said that the Texans have the most interest in Antonio Brown, but that it's not imminent. It was just click bait, but what the hell, he's probably worth a look. They might as well also kick the tires on Dez Bryant. Ha! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eagles115 23 Posted September 29, 2020 On 9/23/2020 at 9:12 PM, weepaws said: So you traded a top 15 Qb , for a top 27 Te? Now you do know that Engram can’t stay healthy right? Mmmm. i have burrow no need for that bum watson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted September 29, 2020 12 minutes ago, eagles115 said: i have burrow no need for that bum watson Sure, Watson is a bum. Let's track this moving forward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, eagles115 said: i have burrow no need for that bum watson Now you know, that Watson just finished week three as the 15th highest scoring Qb. And Engram was the 28th highest scoring Te. You do know that , right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadLizard 73 Posted September 29, 2020 On 9/23/2020 at 2:30 PM, TBayXXXVII said: Personally, I always thought Watson was a bit overrated. I think he's a perfectly fine/acceptable QB, but in the... I don't know, 10 to 12 range among QB's. But people seem to put him in the top 5 to 7. I don't see it. I know the kid is athletic, but as a passer, I think he's "ok". His mobility gives him a definite bump up, but once that goes, he'll be a middle of the road QB. He’s severely over rated, especially as NFL quarterback. Maybe tier 3. The Texans are so screwed with his huge salary and extremely mediocre performance. Tough schedule? Too damned bad, great QBs can play against the top teams. It’s clear that Watson is lame. Just like Lamar Jackson....(he’s my other overrated QB) Watson will have some big games against garbage teams but overall he’s a $160 million dollar farce. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,237 Posted September 29, 2020 He sucks. Always has, always will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, lod001 said: He sucks. Always has, always will. hot take tuesday Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Simms 11 127 Posted September 29, 2020 Would be nice to see him with an Oline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted September 29, 2020 No NUK, no more easy 1 on 1 for his other WRs. NUK made that offense hum for the past few seasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tuxedosam 4 Posted September 29, 2020 I have Watson and Minshew but thinking of dropping one of them for either Goff or Fitz? You guys think Watson will get better? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted September 29, 2020 Great talent, good QB, doesn’t have the weapons this season. Look what Hop is doing for Kyler, cards are 3-0 if he doesn’t give the game away on those ints. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted September 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Tuxedosam said: I have Watson and Minshew but thinking of dropping one of them for either Goff or Fitz? You guys think Watson will get better? I would rather have Goff over either one of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AintNoStoppinMeNow 68 Posted September 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Tuxedosam said: I have Watson and Minshew but thinking of dropping one of them for either Goff or Fitz? You guys think Watson will get better? I have Goff and someone dropped Watson and I'm trying to decide if Watson is worth spending my high waiver priority. I drafted Goff for the same reasons I drafted WInston last year, two great and highly drafted WR's and a good and highly drafted TE. Playing under McVay is an added bonus. WIth Watson, he's lost his top WR (who is the #1 WR in fantasy at the moment for his new team) and has a struggling oline. At the same time, he's just finished up with a pretty tough opening schedule. If Watson was running more it would be an easy call but right now it's tough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philo312 41 Posted September 30, 2020 Yikes. I screwed up w/ him. I instinctively snatched him at the 7.5 position in my big money 10 team. (After Wilson, but I passed on Kyler ). Yup. I should have seen it coming -No doubt. No doubt Hopkins was their entire offense. In a 10 team .5 ppr, Watson as my #1 has been a huge liability. Hopefully he can turn it around with a good schedule ahead. dammit. That was a fockup Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted September 30, 2020 Watson and L Jackson are both avg 22 points per game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites